Darth Vader is by far the easiest boss fight in both Jedi Survivor and Fallen Order. Does not take much skill to beat him and i feel very disappointed. So I thought there may be a reason for that. Firstly, Cere is a much more powerful Jedi than Cal (I know Cal is a menace when you play as him). So when you parry as Cere, it's much simplier and not unforgiving like when you play as Cal. Cere is much better with the force and combat which to me, explains why it is so easy to parry Darth Vader. Another thing is that Darth Vader is extremely powerful, and saw Cere as just any other jedi, which is why he puts little to no effort in combat and has basic attacks. He only begins to get difficult and aggressive in the final stages of the fight, because he now realises Cere is quite strong. So to conclude, I think that the developers focused more on the story in this battle than the actual gameplay, causing this boss fight to be the easiest. And There is loads more to come Dont forget to like and subscribe 🫡
Not to mention Vader’s “overconfidence” is somewhat justified considering how easily he dispatched of Cere in the last game. I mean cmon, the last time he saw her was when he casually flicked her aside without a second thought and then easily disarmed her in less than 10 seconds. We also have to consider the fact that in the last 4-5 years Cere has been specifically training for Vader considering she says the line “I have been waiting”. A fully trained and prepared Jedi master is a handful for Vader, let alone a Vader that thought this would be an easy fight. (I have to say though on the gameplay side of things I wish this fight was a bit harder)
Also there's the fact that the game designers probably realised that putting an unstoppable unbeatable juggernaut that you have no chance of winning against would be very not fun to pit your player against so they settled for this instead
"It is delusion to think your actions have had any consequences" is one of the hardest lines from any star wars media and I don't know why we aren't talking about it more.
His suit is strong enough to withstand lava and lightsaber attacks. Sidious may have purposely gave him a shitty suit to make him weak and in constant pain but it also makes him more powerful in a few ways.
Once you realize how OP cere’s parry is this fight is super easy on grandmaster. I feel most people struggling with it are assuming it’s the same parry timing as normal, it’s not, you can basically just hold block a good second or two before each of Vader’s swings and it counts as a full parry- making this fight fairly easy.
In the final part where he's on fire, he kept pushing me to the ground but then he quickly throws burning debris before Cere can recover. One shots me every time. This fight really is not to bad but that one bullshit attack kept me from beating it lol
My suggestion is just stay close to him at all times and never be afraid to try to parry, block or do the perfect dodge when he does an unblockable attack (works plenty, although the dodge and parry may be difficult depending on the difficulty your playing on)
You want to say Vader fight is easy because you are too good, I don't know how many times he just grab me and I died over and over again lol, it was so frustrating to me.
He is tough, but definitely the easiest boss when compared to the others 🥲i do understand ur frustration happened to me a frw times🥲🥲 But good job on beating him🫡keep it up
@@AlawiDenGhosty Thank you. I finally beat him after I don't know how many tries. I don't have problem with first two phases but then 3rd phase for some reason I had a lot of trouble. Anyway, I am glad it's over with haha
Great job in beating him🫡 he does get way harder in the 3rd phase, faster attacks and new moves sets. The next boss fight is gonna be the hardest🥲 but you got this bro, keep it up
@@AlawiDenGhosty Interesting. I found that he was the hardest boss in the entire game (not counting the Spawn of Oggdo of course). I died A LOT in the 3rd phase.
My tip is don’t be afraid to parry the boss on the 3rd stage. He’s should be easy to parry with cere. Another thing is you’ll notice that he’s not as aggressive after you parry him and back dash just to be safe, but you will have to attack him again if you sense that he is done attacking in order to further decrease his stance bar. When you are no longer afraid of parrying you will be able to have a lot more openings to take out his stance bar and do massive damage. I struggled with him for hours and then a couple of days later after I decided to watch a tutorial videos and noticed people partying on the final stage so that’s what I did and he became super easy on GRANDMASTER!! It was like I made it hard for myself the whole entire time lol. Edit: I just realized I took no damage lmfao.
That’s why I’m having difficulty! I’ve been dodging every single attack. Idk why I thought someone told me he would break your block easily so it’s best to just dodge. Guess I’ll try blocking
this fight was honestly easier than a lot of the other boss fights once u get over your nerves and the fear even on grandmaster the parry timing was very generous
Honestly this has been one of the hardest boss for me I defeated the legendary Spawn of Oogda (ugly frog) but Vader hits really hard and 2 or 1 shot you most of the time (with increase damage to you perk) His saber attacks and combos come out so fast and sometime do 4 hit instead of 3. Amazing memorable boss fight for me.
Maybe 🤔 if I remember correctly, he can 2 hit you instantly so i guess it does compensate for that. Like big mistake, big punishment kind of thing, but it does make it easy to not be hit though 🙆♂️
The easier parries are due to cere bring stronger/better than cal so this whole sequence is essentially a lower difficulty cause we're playing as someone stronger
Not even close to being easiest on gm. You are given the basic sword, half of Cal’s max hp and 4 stims. All other bosses tolerate x10 mistakes than this one.
The parry timing is the same as playing on jedi padawan when you play as cere and vader’s move set is very predictable and basic. Id say second easiest, easiest is 9th sister
@@AlawiDenGhosty Thats what I thought. No way is he easier than 9th sister, whether that's fallen order or survivor. I do still struggle with enemies like 2nd sister to this day though. Can't imagine how people beat her without losing health.
@AlawiDenGhosty i dont care what OP says. Parrying him is easy, but he has so many one shot attacks that make him the hardest boss in the game. Can't say how many times I took him down to a quarter health without ever taking damage, only to get one shot killed by him
Fun fact: although she has less hp, she can take more damage (more resistance) HOWEVER vader just does so much damage that the game just punishes you for messing up even for a quarter of a second
@AlawiDenGhosty I'd say this level of plot armor is acceptable, because to be fair Cere did put up a decent fight and even damaged Vader's respirator.
This is like disney vs the prequels. Vader takes a lot of hits and shrugs it off (representing disney). Where cere takes a single stab and goes down as qui gon did (prequels)
I'm good at the Game but boss fights I always hate. I get used to the way the enemies fight then you get to a boss fight and it's all different moves from the rest of the enemies. I hate Taking all that time to fight a boss n learn his moves just to never fight him again in the rest of the game.
Boss fights isnt really for everyone and thats ok🫡 personally i enjoy it, gives me a sense of challenge yk, and it would be weird if people like darth vader have similar movesets to normal enemies. Id say reduce the difficulty if u wanna skip on past them 🫡 its all about having fun, doesnt matter what difficulty u play
I’m guessing cal is gunna fight against Vader in the next game for revenge for what Vader did to cere he might turn to the dark side on his own without siding with Vader since he killed his teacher cere
Cal isn't strong enough to face Vader yet. He will probably be strong enough in the next game though. Hopefully he survives the encounter, since Vader obviously does.
Bruh I cant take these Star Wars games serious, I thought with myself that one thing is in the gameplay, but she literally strikes his hands with her lightsaber and it doesnt do anything but a knocknack 💀💀💀💀💀
I thought it's well-known that Vader has lightsaber-resistant materials in his suit. Not enough to prevent him from getting injured, but enough to make cuts less deep.
I gave the first game a ton of credit for having Vader being this threat that cannot actually be fought, merely surviving to escape is victory. Then this game undoes all that credit for no good reason other than to have a silly boss battle with him.
Yeah… im not sure how you see that… shes a jedi master during the clone wars, vader says shed make a great inquisitor… she is powerful. Vader isnt someone who must not break a sweat in any fight, he must have a flawless battle and take no damage. He has struggles too, and what makes him cool is that he still wins in the end even if hes taken damage etc. in the comics he loses his leg to a jedi but no one calls him out.
Darth Vader is by far the easiest boss fight in both Jedi Survivor and Fallen Order. Does not take much skill to beat him and i feel very disappointed. So I thought there may be a reason for that.
Firstly, Cere is a much more powerful Jedi than Cal (I know Cal is a menace when you play as him). So when you parry as Cere, it's much simplier and not unforgiving like when you play as Cal. Cere is much better with the force and combat which to me, explains why it is so easy to parry Darth Vader.
Another thing is that Darth Vader is extremely powerful, and saw Cere as just any other jedi, which is why he puts little to no effort in combat and has basic attacks. He only begins to get difficult and aggressive in the final stages of the fight, because he now realises Cere is quite strong.
So to conclude, I think that the developers focused more on the story in this battle than the actual gameplay, causing this boss fight to be the easiest.
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Not to mention Vader’s “overconfidence” is somewhat justified considering how easily he dispatched of Cere in the last game. I mean cmon, the last time he saw her was when he casually flicked her aside without a second thought and then easily disarmed her in less than 10 seconds. We also have to consider the fact that in the last 4-5 years Cere has been specifically training for Vader considering she says the line “I have been waiting”. A fully trained and prepared Jedi master is a handful for Vader, let alone a Vader that thought this would be an easy fight. (I have to say though on the gameplay side of things I wish this fight was a bit harder)
I agree it's a testament to Cere's growth and the false sense of hope that the developers likely wanted to instill to players
Now she far more powerful than she can ever be
Also there's the fact that the game designers probably realised that putting an unstoppable unbeatable juggernaut that you have no chance of winning against would be very not fun to pit your player against so they settled for this instead
Well said, honestly felt that way :’)
"It is delusion to think your actions have had any consequences" is one of the hardest lines from any star wars media and I don't know why we aren't talking about it more.
I agree🫡
Behind “the only thing I’m surrounded by is fear and dead men”(facing an entire rebel army in the comics)
One of his greatest lines, imagine that in live action 😩
I bet Vader thought in his head "Holy shit that was too close"
I doubt it🤣 more like “i underestimated her damn she good”
My goodness final phase Vader looks badass!
that burning cape... gorgous
@@AlawiDenGhosty And the bits of flame on his armour too [chef's kiss]
His suit is strong enough to withstand lava and lightsaber attacks. Sidious may have purposely gave him a shitty suit to make him weak and in constant pain but it also makes him more powerful in a few ways.
Once you realize how OP cere’s parry is this fight is super easy on grandmaster. I feel most people struggling with it are assuming it’s the same parry timing as normal, it’s not, you can basically just hold block a good second or two before each of Vader’s swings and it counts as a full parry- making this fight fairly easy.
Definitely helped rn on grandmaster once I got the parry down it was a breeze actually had 2 stims left 😂
You - sir - are a legend.
2 days i was stuck on this then i beat him first try with this.
Nice one man, and Thank you, im so glad this video helped 🫡 have plenty more videos for you if you need them :)
Dude I can't even do this on the middle difficulty. Well done!
Thank you🫡and thats ok bro, its not about the difficulty, its about having fun :) you got this
In the final part where he's on fire, he kept pushing me to the ground but then he quickly throws burning debris before Cere can recover. One shots me every time. This fight really is not to bad but that one bullshit attack kept me from beating it lol
My suggestion is just stay close to him at all times and never be afraid to try to parry, block or do the perfect dodge when he does an unblockable attack (works plenty, although the dodge and parry may be difficult depending on the difficulty your playing on)
You want to say Vader fight is easy because you are too good, I don't know how many times he just grab me and I died over and over again lol, it was so frustrating to me.
He is tough, but definitely the easiest boss when compared to the others 🥲i do understand ur frustration happened to me a frw times🥲🥲
But good job on beating him🫡keep it up
@@AlawiDenGhosty Thank you. I finally beat him after I don't know how many tries. I don't have problem with first two phases but then 3rd phase for some reason I had a lot of trouble. Anyway, I am glad it's over with haha
Great job in beating him🫡 he does get way harder in the 3rd phase, faster attacks and new moves sets. The next boss fight is gonna be the hardest🥲 but you got this bro, keep it up
@@AlawiDenGhosty Interesting. I found that he was the hardest boss in the entire game (not counting the Spawn of Oggdo of course). I died A LOT in the 3rd phase.
My tip is don’t be afraid to parry the boss on the 3rd stage. He’s should be easy to parry with cere. Another thing is you’ll notice that he’s not as aggressive after you parry him and back dash just to be safe, but you will have to attack him again if you sense that he is done attacking in order to further decrease his stance bar. When you are no longer afraid of parrying you will be able to have a lot more openings to take out his stance bar and do massive damage. I struggled with him for hours and then a couple of days later after I decided to watch a tutorial videos and noticed people partying on the final stage so that’s what I did and he became super easy on GRANDMASTER!! It was like I made it hard for myself the whole entire time lol. Edit: I just realized I took no damage lmfao.
That’s why I’m having difficulty! I’ve been dodging every single attack. Idk why I thought someone told me he would break your block easily so it’s best to just dodge. Guess I’ll try blocking
@@Holycow94WoW Do your best!
this fight was honestly easier than a lot of the other boss fights once u get over your nerves and the fear
even on grandmaster the parry timing was very generous
Yeah, but I don't know skills of that bald woman... It's annoying chore to play it...
I think this was one of the easier boss fights in the game on grandmaster. I found rayvis second stage to be harder
110% agree🫡
Honestly this has been one of the hardest boss for me I defeated the legendary Spawn of Oogda (ugly frog) but Vader hits really hard and 2 or 1 shot you most of the time (with increase damage to you perk) His saber attacks and combos come out so fast and sometime do 4 hit instead of 3. Amazing memorable boss fight for me.
I found Vader much easier to parry and evade than Spawn of Oggdo.
Same here 🫡
Doesn't Vader do a shitton of damage with every hit? Mayber the easier parries are supposed to compensate for that.
Maybe 🤔 if I remember correctly, he can 2 hit you instantly so i guess it does compensate for that. Like big mistake, big punishment kind of thing, but it does make it easy to not be hit though 🙆♂️
The easier parries are due to cere bring stronger/better than cal so this whole sequence is essentially a lower difficulty cause we're playing as someone stronger
Lucky Darth Vader he could have been kill
apology for poor english
when were you when darth vader die?
i was sat at home eating Rawka burger when pjotr ring
‘dart vatr is kill’
‘no’
Yeah guess you are right the chosen one is Immortal
Not even close to being easiest on gm. You are given the basic sword, half of Cal’s max hp and 4 stims. All other bosses tolerate x10 mistakes than this one.
The parry timing is the same as playing on jedi padawan when you play as cere and vader’s move set is very predictable and basic. Id say second easiest, easiest is 9th sister
@@AlawiDenGhosty Thats what I thought. No way is he easier than 9th sister, whether that's fallen order or survivor. I do still struggle with enemies like 2nd sister to this day though. Can't imagine how people beat her without losing health.
I managed to beat all 4 bosses at the same time on jedi fallen order 😅
@AlawiDenGhosty i dont care what OP says. Parrying him is easy, but he has so many one shot attacks that make him the hardest boss in the game. Can't say how many times I took him down to a quarter health without ever taking damage, only to get one shot killed by him
Fun fact: although she has less hp, she can take more damage (more resistance) HOWEVER vader just does so much damage that the game just punishes you for messing up even for a quarter of a second
Saved by the plot armor ... ;-)
Well he has to be🥲
I doubt Vader would've lost even if he did get stabbed.
I honestly wish he did get stabbed, would show him as an absolute unit. Both get stabbed but he walks it off 👌
@@AlawiDenGhosty I mean he already did shrug off a stab in the first game...
@AlawiDenGhosty I'd say this level of plot armor is acceptable, because to be fair Cere did put up a decent fight and even damaged Vader's respirator.
This is like disney vs the prequels. Vader takes a lot of hits and shrugs it off (representing disney). Where cere takes a single stab and goes down as qui gon did (prequels)
I'm good at the Game but boss fights I always hate. I get used to the way the enemies fight then you get to a boss fight and it's all different moves from the rest of the enemies. I hate Taking all that time to fight a boss n learn his moves just to never fight him again in the rest of the game.
Boss fights isnt really for everyone and thats ok🫡 personally i enjoy it, gives me a sense of challenge yk, and it would be weird if people like darth vader have similar movesets to normal enemies. Id say reduce the difficulty if u wanna skip on past them 🫡 its all about having fun, doesnt matter what difficulty u play
I disagree with him being the easiest boss.. But thankfully this video helped get me past the 3rd phase on Grand Master
I’m on Jedi Master and my fight isn’t going so smooth…
I’m guessing cal is gunna fight against Vader in the next game for revenge for what Vader did to cere he might turn to the dark side on his own without siding with Vader since he killed his teacher cere
I am of Lord Vaders side :)
The only right side 🫡
Ita a crime you cant fight him as Cal. I was so mad to find this is the only vader fight
Feel like theyre saving it up for the next game, would feel like a drag if we face him in all 3 games yk 🤔
@@AlawiDenGhosty then he shouldn't have been a boss at all. I understand he shouldn't be the big bad in every game. But it was such a tease.
I totally get u🥲i guess others would be mad that he wasnt one either🥲 but overall i dont mind it, just wish it was a bit more difficult
@AlawiDenGhosty can't please everyone. Hopefully an update will give us a boss rush
Cal isn't strong enough to face Vader yet. He will probably be strong enough in the next game though. Hopefully he survives the encounter, since Vader obviously does.
Darth Vader is almost died or killed after when Cere died but he is not a final boss.
ngl... idk what u said 😭can you repeat that?
Hardest fight in the Game easily.
Surely not🥲
I agree. Bode is a distant second, but Vader is way harder. But Dagan and Rayvis are cake walks compared to this dude
Bruh I cant take these Star Wars games serious, I thought with myself that one thing is in the gameplay, but she literally strikes his hands with her lightsaber and it doesnt do anything but a knocknack 💀💀💀💀💀
Vader’s got that Dawg in him dude, dunno what else to tell ya 🫡
(i do get ur point tho😂)
To be fair Darth Vader got hit in the hand in the empire strikes back as well and it didn’t do anything. Lightsabers have always been inconsistent
Pretty sure i read somewhere that vader actually has some beskar on his gloves 🤔
I thought it's well-known that Vader has lightsaber-resistant materials in his suit. Not enough to prevent him from getting injured, but enough to make cuts less deep.
I dont think this guy is playing jedi grand master. Either that or vader fight has been patched since
Its jedi grandmaster, u can see the 2 yellow dots at the bottom of the screen
Good to know that I'm trash at this game. XD The fight was kind of hard for me. :(
Thats ok bro, its not about the difficulty you play, its about having fun :))
I gave the first game a ton of credit for having Vader being this threat that cannot actually be fought, merely surviving to escape is victory. Then this game undoes all that credit for no good reason other than to have a silly boss battle with him.
I mean, cere is way more powerful than cal, so its not a surprise that they have a fight, and vader still wins in the end
Lacrarion wins
Ngl, im not sure what that means😭
@@AlawiDenGhosty cere junda a woke character
Yeah… im not sure how you see that… shes a jedi master during the clone wars, vader says shed make a great inquisitor… she is powerful.
Vader isnt someone who must not break a sweat in any fight, he must have a flawless battle and take no damage. He has struggles too, and what makes him cool is that he still wins in the end even if hes taken damage etc. in the comics he loses his leg to a jedi but no one calls him out.
@@AlawiDenGhosty Vader isnt so powerfull, that r broked to that Mary Sue
@@zebrapaim you’re the type of guy to call literally any female character a Mary sue. Don’t use a word you don’t know the meaning of.
why cere mentioned Trilla?
Life flashing before her eyes, her biggest failure