The Downfall of r/Antiwork
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2022
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"Reddit mod on national televisions" sounds like a skit
sounds like something the onion would do xD
@@grrumakemeangry I'm baffled The Onion still exists with how reality keeps outdoing it in the absurdity department with each passing year
ironically the person getting interviewed looks and feels like it was a skit planned by fox news all along
@@conveniencestorebanana9648 honestly yeah as it ended up doing what Fox does best: undermining progress. The mod who came on was a terrible choic of who to represent the movement as she just made it seem like people were lazy, and it basically discredited the actual labor reformists in the community. And then with her being trans it led to a shitstorm of transphobic hate and it is honestly really clear if you look at how much hateful and anti trans comments you see in this video’s feed. What a world we live in
@@WingedFish66 Babylon Bee has largely overtaken it and it's great.
antiwork users when they realize that the hammer and sickle represent physical labor 😢
lol
@@abdellahsbaa3751 They would create the infinite resources generator. Free money glitch irl
@@end4567
CIA fucked up my cobblestone generator. Can’t have shit in Cuba.
antiwork users when china takes over the world they have to work in the coal mines instead of being dog walkers
Which is funny because the point of communism is everyone gets a job and gets same amount regardless of all the responsibilities lmao.
> goes on air representing the anti work movement
> puts zero effort into preparing for that interview
> yeah that tracks
I mean actually helping Destroy It should be done since It is anti work
Should have hired a PR...oh wait, hiring is evil.
>Antiwork was about bad management
>A moderator of Antiwork did the interview
>Moderators manage forums
>Bad management killed antiwork
Bad managers win?
Ironically, they became the bad managers they complained about
Only a bad manager could be that unprepared.
It all came full circle
The chad bad manager keeps on winning
Who would've guessed? Lazy idiots are incapable of managing even something as simple as a reddit community. Which just goes to show that their incessant rambling about work was more about ther inherent flaws and incapabilities than the unfairness of work in general. Especially if you consider that those that have access and time to be a part of such a resentful online community are absolutely not part of a truly unfair and inhumane workspace, such asian sweatshop workers, miners etc etc
The Fox News guy didn't even need to do anything, the mod dug their own grave
*her
@@thereisnofood2008 their is gender neutral
I mean if I remember correctly she was on the Autism spectrum so she had a bit of trouble noticing the clear baiting
@@thereisnofood2008 that's a guy
@@AuroraAce. :) using "gender neutral" language on people you know the gender of, is still misgendering/degendering
- how did you prepare for the interview?
- I showered.
I think you’re giving them a bit too much credit
@@GhostGum nah he isnt giving him enough credit, I heard reddit mods are allergic to personal hygiene
@@williamaftonpizzeria They also need suntan lotion for natural light
doesn't look like it, perhaps a few drips on the stomach and left
I highly doubt they did that honestly
I've always loved the bit about "I want to teach philosophy". Philosophy is primarily only taught at college, and to become a college professor takes an immense amount of work, let alone all the teaching, grading, and research you're required to do once you actually get the position.
That’s the problem. It shouldn’t take work to be a college professor to pursue your dream of teaching people the correct way of thinking. Why should I have to give up 4 years of my life just to pursue my dream? It’s just capitalist bs to water down the actual free thinkers because the big heads of governments don’t want us wage slave liberators to influence the next generation, because they know we will not fall for their college “preparation” trap. This goes for all professors. The idea that you have to taught a premade set of beliefs to teach is straight up fascism. College must be abolished. /s
"Laziness is a virtue" is the philosophy that he wants to spread 😆
Not to mention most really philosophers throughout history had a full time job outside of teaching philosophy and many of them died for their beliefs.
Think the only time I’ve seen philosophers make a career out of their field outside of college is on UA-cam ironically enough
He also wanted to teach "critical thinking".
i.e. "I haven't been bothered to study anything but I'm very smart."
I still can't believe they sent someone whos job is literally "a walk in the park" and not an electrician or something
With that many members, one of them should have beena savvy PR person. They should have done the interview.
I am assuming most of the mods had jobs and since they didn't want to get fired they used the loser as the face.
The people with the most clout and loudest voice in places like that are usually the ones that have literally nothing else going on in their lives. That Doreen guy was one of the oldest mods because he has all the time in the world to just mod his subreddit. I modded a forum when I was a teenager, eventually I went to college and had to stop because I didn't have time anymore to dedicate to sitting around deleting spam. I guarantee Doreen has accomplished nothing else in his life other than moderating a subreddit that blew up, so I bet he demanded to be the one to go on TV - rather than, as you say, someone with an actual job and life experience to talk about how companies mistreat workers.
Let's get this straight. They removed the mod's account, and then they added a new account as a mod. That account was made that same day. Take a wild guess as to who's behind that account
They literally setup a military coup, with their own puppet government and all
@@NeoEvanA.R.T LMAO
Whaaaaat!? It got even more stupid
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak what?
Masterb-
This was most certainly a Reddit moment
So glad I left that shithole of a site when I did
@@lonelyswarm6827 And you went from one shithole to another? lol
Most certainly, most certainly.
r/redditmoment
@@lonelyswarm6827 You're lucky. Reddit gives you canceraids. This is a well known fact. I can tell you don't have it because you don't follow every sentence with an emoji or a "lol".
Stage 4 canceraids is when you use quotations to farm specific sentences from someone you're having a debate with while ignoring their point.
I hope this helps you identity canceraids before you get infected. Social media distance yourself.
>Is the face of the Anti-Work movement
>Works as a dog walker
>Wants to teach Philosophy
Yeah this is Reddit alright
Probably walks his grandma's dog once a week and she let's him stay with her.
@@KrolKaztruuuuue
You forgot:
>she/her
Which I immediately knew was coming after seeing the female avatar.
@@gurriatohuh? That's a dude?
I really don’t know much about this at all, but judge the argument not the person.
Just how you eventually will find a monkey that has accidentally written Shakespeare if you have enough monkeys, morons can make good arguments and geniuses can make bad arguments even if both are unlikely.
the level of irony for a subreddit about hating on job employees to have powermods who more or less do the same when it comes to trample on the people below em, except without any paiment ...or dignity
Reddit mods manage to be hypocritical, and be a bigot at the same time. Baffles my mind.
Reddit mods will ban you for any criticism directed to their way of running their subreddit, and then pretend you were being [insert negative descriptive word] to justify their tyranny.
It happened in r/antiwork too, when the mods began banning users for mentioning the trans mod’s raype allegations, claiming they were doing it all to stop “”transsphobia”” and that the rumors were the fault of brigades and evil trolls.
This was all bull of course.
They think the privilege of silencing anyone that calls them out is a right. That being x justifies the act of being a predator
You are telling me they do it for free?
They sweep it up for free!
I keep forgetting youtuber so watch other UA-camrs
Guess you could say that the subreddit ended up not working out?
you must have been working hard to get a dad joke joke work, good job
It's alright, from what I can tell, those redditors don't get worked up about it.
more like all of the users don't work out
@@kwad9145 Well, one user walks dogs!
@@nilon5327 more physical activity than 95% of all reddit users
Doreen could have talked about:
* How the minimum wage has not kept up with inflation
* How the median family income has not kept up with inflation for ~40 years
* How workers should be afforded basic human dignity
* How no one should have to work 3 jobs for 60+ hours a week and still be unable to make ends meet
Instead, she argues:
"Laziness is a virtue 🤡"
were you really expecting much from a redditor who is also an alleged rapist
@@bitterman7258 Good point lmao
I mean, there was a huge influx of people joining the workforce circa like 70 or 80s. Aka women. More people = more job competition = wage crush. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Just means that couples will both have to work.
"she"
@@benshiotsu8553yes that is a bad thing because then you'll have to pay strangers to raise your kids.
"Most reddit mods are powermods."
I got banned from reddit for saying "nice BMW" on the Toyota forum after someone posted a picture of a Supra.
Was it trollish? Yes, in the lightest way possible. The car is literally >90% BMW parts and made in Austria by a BMW contractor. I had the whacko idea that people should talk about cars made by Toyota in a Toyota sub.
Banning someone for writing that? LOL. Reddit is worthless.
They will get humbled by someone in real life eventually
Antiwork lived and died by the Reddit principle. They grew by bitching and moaning to the void and making stuff up for karma, and died from the biggest fear of any redditor: being seen as cringe.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
I may be cringe, but i am free
r/cringetopia I do not have such weakness
The 'Work' explaining videos of Some More News are perfect to watch
after this video here.
@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 pfp sauce?
>Subreddit get's popular
>Subreddit tanks in quality
That's basically how reddit works
Yes, when you have a lot of liberals in one place, everything goes to shit. Keep liberals out of your communities if you want quality ANYTHING - art, discussions, even friends.
damn Joe Biden and those darn liberals..........
@@screwgoogle4993 ummm you know conservatives are purposefully erasing and forcing minorities to not be themselves right. We trans people are literally fighting to exist with laws trying to basically paint us as scum. We liberals just want to survive and push for good change
@@lssjgaming1599 you will never be a woman
@@lssjgaming1599 Conservatives aren't appealing to delusional people like you
I cannot stress this enough you guys, the day I got off Reddit was the day I started living again. Shits self-righteous cesspool.
Same.
I am addicted I can't stop :(
What are some good alternatives?
@@ssous206going outside and talking to people
@@ssous206 being realistic
In New Zealand decades ago, a large group of hippies bought some land so they could just live off the land and not work (instead grow their veges etc so they weren't forced to work for an employer). It was a disaster because the hippies didn't want to work in the vegetable garden or cook so nothing got done. Turns out not doing any work results in nothing being done.
I think the idea of "Not working" is more of the idea that you should be doing what you love. "If you get a job you love you'll never have to work again." Philosophy. If the hippies dream was to live of the land then more power to them, but they should have actually did care for that land and not sit down and not do that.
Yea.
Looks like reddit is entirely unstable for such movements when mods can hijack them at will
Well… it’s always a certain type of “gender” that ruins every subreddit.
@@jakeastside I'm not sure what you want to say but it's probably sexist
@@jakeastside based?
The mod didn't hijack anything lmao; he's a founding member of the sub and his quotes are literally listed on the sidebar of the sub verbatim, stating things like "The Abolishment of Work", "The Myth of Work", "In Praise of Idleness" etc. In fact, get this.. it even states all of these things under a title literally saying "Anti-Work 101" lmao.
He didn't misrepresent anything. r/antiwork really is just a bunch of financially destitute weaklings that want to destroy the concept of working, because they themselves been broken like twigs by their entry-level jobs. They are lazy and stupid, this isn't surface-level judgement; this is the sad reality of the sub. Good riddance.
@@jakeastside Based
It is extremely ironic that a subreddit dedicated to criticizing the corruption of wealthy elite bosses itself became an example of elitist mod abuse. The mods even talked to each other to prevent word of the corruption spreading to other subreddits
Just Reddit for ya
Followed the course of all communist governments, funnily enough
Irony finds its way.
Power does tend to corrupt people
Power corrupt. And they probably such loser irl so the little fake power they get will corrupt them very fast
In retrospect, im almost proud of how fast i got permabanned from reddit
I collect bannings like merit badges, and I’m not even that big of an asshole.
I got permabanned for saying " a grown man shouldnt be allowed to flash his wiener at little girls just because he claims to be a woman"
What I got from this is if I'm against pedophilia, I'm transphobic
@@leunamreyo3663 Being Transphobic is inheretly being anti-pedophile
@@norikofu509Pretty much nowadays. Like it is...shockingly prevalent, and there's an awful pattern of these trans movements or individuals specifically targeting children for either indoctrination or acceptance. Really activates the almonds in your brain, doesn't it?
I got banned for calling someone the N word because at the time I believed I was trans and fought against the "superstraights" who I was misled into believing they were transphobes. I now realize that I'm not trans and that I'm one of these people (even if their communities were destroyed) due to seeing what bottom surgeries and most trans people look like. In retrospect, I'm super glad I got banned from Reddit because it got me out of the echo chamber, especially since my IP address was perma banned, meaning I could never come back, meaning I was permanently out of the echo chamber.
"And what do you do for work?"
"Im a dog walker"
*overly loud xbox intro plays*
(there was an xbox ad)
What's wrong with being a dog-walker?
@@tonyennis1787 idk ? Maybe because it sounds like the least stressful job out there ?
I mean come on you get paid to walk dogs ! I'd do it for free
Only thing I disagree with is Ghost Gum saying Doreen got 'trapped' or that Fox acted in bad faith. All he asked was what the movement was about, what changes they want, and what Doreen does for a living. Questions couldn't have gotten more basic than they were.
Exactly. Waters did nothing in bad faith. He asked simple questions
I mean, I thini he says that it was obvious that the news channel wanted to set them up to make them look like clowns. Just so happened that the mod already came in with the white facepaint and the red nose on
@@jordandennis6794 Fox News was acting in bad faith, but the mod helped them achieve what they wanted
Fox news was ready to clown Doreen; little did they know she came already dressed up.
@@vdinh143 *he
The fox news interviewer didn't even ask a hard question lol. A subreddit about antiwork didn't put any work in preparing for an interview, who would of guessed.
*would have
@@qbasic16 you really showed 'em. about 30 days late
For a news network known for being full of batshit crazy anchors, I'm actually surprised by how well Jesse handled the interview haha
If you won't do something because a boss tells you to, you won't do anything for any reason.
@@aljo8200 be gottem though
>anarchist moderator
>Comes up with a complex hierarchical method of how and who is allowed to post
Lol
Sounds like anarchism if you ask me
AmIright guys?
Anarchy doesn't mean there is no hierarchy, just no unneccessary hierarchy.
@@TheSorrel it means there is no rulers, and for rulers to exist you need a hierarchy, as hierarchy means there is a divide between common masses and the ruling class.
Of course politically it doesn't work on a large scale so people came up with fancy excuses why in some anarcho-x society everyones opinion matters, some people will just matter more and have the last word. But it's totally not rulers, amirite
@@MyRkAcc Like I said, the Idea is to have a hierarchy where it makes sense. For example, a Ship needs a captain, a project needs a manager and a movie needs a director.
But these roles only apply for the work that everyone is doing and nobody has any power outside of the role that he has been assigned to by vote, and if he fails to fulfill that role, his power can be taken away easily and given to someone else.
You know, like a democracy.
They literally admit to being lazy anarcho-communists in their “about” page.
My antiwork roommate calling me an oppressor when I ask her to do her own laundry: 🤬🤬🤬
The fox news guy’s shit-eating grin was the funniest thing I’ve seen in so long.
If they had shifted the narrative to be more focused on work reform, they would have been fine. Lesson learned - nothing is ever good enough for a redditor.
The commies thought this was their time to shine when really it was just a place for average people to talk about ways of getting a better work/life balance and pay, among other things.
The problem is, even if you go back to its earliest days, it really wasn't about reforms. It's in the name it's antiwork not reformwork.
@Sidharth Rao "Most of the sub was about and gravitating towards work reform" Meanwhile all of the top voted posts are photoshopped hate porn lmao. This narrative being pushed of them being misrepresented is such a sly & pathetic attempt at damage control lol
I’m on r/antiwork decently often and that is very much the message. Real or not the majority of posts are complaining about bad conditions or unfair treatment from their own jobs. And most responses are advice, and is generally pretty good for big subReddit standards.
I like ghost gums videos but this one is pretty off-base
Remember: stick true to your beliefs, but do your research, and be prepared for anything. Otherwise you will end up ruining your message, or let clowns ruin it for you.
The mod didn't ruin any message lmao; he's a founding member of the sub and his quotes are literally listed on the sidebar of the sub verbatim, stating things like "The Abolishment of Work", "The Myth of Work", "In Praise of Idleness" etc. In fact, get this.. it even states all of these things under a title literally saying "Anti-Work 101" lmao.
He didn't misrepresent anything. r/antiwork really is just a bunch of financially destitute weaklings that want to destroy the concept of working and praise the concept of laziness, because they themselves have been broken like twigs by their entry-level jobs. They are lazy and stupid, this isn't surface-level judgement; this is the sad reality of the sub. Good riddance.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no dumb redditors be like “B-b-But there’s MoRe nUaNcE”
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no Not only did you make it obvious you've never browsed the sub once but you didn't even watch the video either. Wow
@@Shyguymask Hey, guy who wasted his time browsing the sub here. Everything he has said is 100% on the money. The sub consists of 50% fake evil boss/management post (Mods dont hide the fact that majority of the sub is fabricated, infact they encourage it to boost its popularity) and 50% just general whining about capitalism.
I think theres valid critiques of the work enviroment and wages for employees, but r/antiwork users simply want handouts for just existing and thats something i simply disagree with.
@@Shyguymask TIL ShyGuyMask is a fan of Ghost
Anti-Work then: My boss did something stupid.
Anti-Work now: ABOLISH WORK
It's one thing to make a mistake, it's another a boss doing that to workers everyday.
You cannot force him to prepare to the interview. He is antiprepare!
Moderators complaining about corruption in politics, news, etc. being corrupt themselves by not allowing others to voice their opinion that differs from them is the funniest shit I have ever seen.
I got banned from this shithole website just because i said that women don't drive as well as men do in a professional setting. I said that you hardly ever see women racing in top automotive events (f1, nascar) and the mods banned me from the whole website, not even the subreddit i said that in.
I bodied ghost in my reaction video to this
@@drdavinsky Good thing you didn't literally body him, your 800 pounds of pure reddit mod physique would instantly crush him into a pancake
@@NostalgicOccultist I’m 180 pounds and 6 foot. Cope tho
@@drdavinsky can we see what u look like
Isn't it weird that, this mod guy was the *exact* person I expected both in terms of appearance and personality?
The Reddit moderator meme is popular because its true.
And the way he swings his chair lol like an 8 year old
@@HelderGriff If you think the way you move your chair denotes your maturity level you might not be so mature yourself...
He looks like he smells like I'd expect a Reddit mod to smell like
How's that for a tongue twister
@@alexsm3882 Aaron is referring to the fact that the chair swing is fidgety, they also never look up which makes them appear inexperienced, anxious, and the lack of self-awareness of this is rather infantile.
As somebody who suffers with severe mental health problems that makes it almost impossible to get a job, I personally think the whole subreddit was just kids larping at being revolutionaries without putting in the work. While I admit that society needs to improve how it treats labor and work as a whole, going about it in the way these Redditors did was a complete waste of time and just embarrassing to actual work reform organizations.
I did join that sub, I'm part of the Work Reform faction. Yes we have too many exploitative employers, underpaid employees who make a difference in society, companies that screw over average people, CEOs and C-suites who are paid way too much while average workers make next to nothing. We do need to address the issues with our work society as a whole.
You too huh? I suffer from Austim
@@lolstalgic9602 Same, complete disaster, basically unemployable without collapsing mentally. To Antiworks credit, the social reform side (this was long before it went to hell when I just checked every now and then) helped a lot to break my idea that work alone was where one's value was. So now I can actually get some self-satisfaction in helping family & friends day to day, plus entertaining people via streaming even if it's non-profitable.
But uh, yeah as a subreddit it failed miserably, as many popular subreddits do. Better off finding a local group working for welfare improvement and things like that if you, y'know, wanna actually contribute.
@@lolstalgic9602'Glad' to not be the only one
@@lolstalgic9602 REAL AS FUCK!
Also, fancy seeing you here bro. Then again I shouldn't have expected you to _exclusively_ appear in Brandon Yates comment sections.
This was truly surreal to watch unfold in real time. If Fox News had a literal actor playing a strawman of a Redditor it would have been a less absurd character than the actual mod they found
I think one VERY important detail of this narrative that is missing is that *before* the interview took place (or was even planned) the rank-and-file of r/antiwork took a vote and collectively decided TO NOT ENGAGE WITH MEDIA, specifically to avoid this shit. Then Dorene went and did it anyway, for clout, behind the movement's back.
I don’t know, I do think it should be included but it shows a massive disconnect between mods and the people on the subreddit which the video laid out that message.
From what i know, the mods and group that started this sub was really lazy bunch(hence the sub name Anti-work) and somehow the sub has many ppl who actually care more about social wellfare joined later
So it totally make sense when the mods ignored the vote and went straight with the interview. The mods and the user base is basicially two different group
@@Predator20357 that is true of every single thing with moderators on the internet ever
@@danielmckraken5160 Better commentary on how corrupting power can become than any amount of regurgitating the same quote
@@askovtk4834 they accidentally made a sub named after a real philosophy and got mad when people started talking about that philosophy
Watching a dog walker being the face of the movement while there are people forced to work to pay endless loans they were forced to take just for them to survive is the most reddit moment I've seen
nobody is "forced" to take a loan lmao
Fucking hell they could’ve sent like half of the guys I used to know when I worked on a construction crew. Long hours brutal conditions inadequate pay dangerous environments abuse from company and coworkers and then high financial stress and more. I would’ve definitely told you at the heartstrings of Fox News and its conservative core audience to get stories about how all American art managers can work 50 hours a week with their hands literally building the country and still have to selectively pick which bills they pay or what day is they don’t eat in order to make it by. Absolutely nobody’s going to be making fun of a mid 50s crane op Who reveals that they have to walk 4 miles every single day to and from work because thdy had to sell the car to barely avoid foreclosure. Showing a parade of stories like that all the help people who worked hard and did everything right somehow we’re not only not making up an actively falling more and more by the day that would’ve been perfect to justify the message not some lazy troon who is just infinitely pathetic and contemptible.
The part that kills me is dog walking is pretty lucrative if you put in the work. I know someone with a degree that dog walks and dogsits and makes around 60k.
>forced to work to pay endless loans they were forced to take
kill me
It's also an irony that shows a class struggle, between the lordship of mods and the rest of the peasants.
Funny how antiwork mods ended up being just as corrupt as the bosses they shit on lmao
Reddit troons will never fail to make me laugh
Looney-troons
We have to bow down to them for them not understanding basic biology and then complain about us being the source of their problems, when all of them are on welfare with no job and probably have Estrogen covered by insurance.
“The basic Reddit mod salary”
One useless Reddit award an hour?
Jannies do it for free.
Actual nothing. Mods do what they do for free, or for the power trip.
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Clean it up jannies
when you get something for free, you get what you pay for
@must Kill star From $0 to $000.00
Every week, Reddits gives us even more proof of why a society made by Redditors would last a month at best, and in the worst case scenario, burns down on the first week
Chaz?
@@vanillabatcave5677 That was an amalgamation of Reddit and Twitter. It managed to last as long as it did not because of love amongst the community, but because of the hate towards outsiders.
A xenophobic bunch, indeed.
Bold of you to assume it would even last a day
@@rushink That and active support and protection from Dem politicians.
Worst case? You mean best?
There's only one thing more pathetic than antiwork... it's working.
Get a fucking job 🤡
went from a subreddit that wants to make ur average 9-5 not as terrible, to a loser circlejerk that doesnt want to do work for a living
Doctors and nurses had to work overtime during these past two years, and somehow Redditors thought they had it worse
Hospitals were vacant this whole time. Not to defend the plebbitors, but it is what it is.
@@alternateperson6600
They were? Over here they were filled to the brim the last time I went there for Bronchitis.
@@alternateperson6600 Having several people in my family who badly needed hospitalization over the past two years who couldn't find treatment, I am going to have to point out that is not correct for the central and south US of A at least.
I used to work in a kids hospital! I seen this first hand
@@alternateperson6600 Wrong.
Being a moderator on r/antiwork was too much work
>he does it for free
@@bestdrunkdriver The 'Work' explaining videos of Some More News are perfect to watch
after this video here.
You can't spell Reddit moderators without allegations.
This is happening across all of Reddit. People with takes that go against the echo chamber are banned. Not just banned in the subreddit. Perma'd. And if you go back or slip up and make a comment by mistake, perma'd.
Even as a lazy person myself, I still wouldn’t join that movement.
Well said, fellow slacker.
@@BugBoss1205 slack on these nutz
I'm too lazy to join a movement
Sounds like too much work
Everyone should be willing to join a workers rights movement for work reform but straight up "anti-work" is cringe
"Laziness is a Virtue"
i'm from a third world country and work my ass off just to pay off rent and have enough food.
this shit was like a slap on the face
unless youre an engineer. then your specific brand of laziness is when youre willing to do really ridiculous things just to avoid the one thing you dont want to do.
Do you want your life to be this way? Workin all day and not having enough food?
It's a slap in the face to want you to have a better life?
@@user-jc2lz6jb2e well your not going to get a better life by not doing anything.
@@user-jc2lz6jb2e The problem isn't wanting better workers rights, but calling lazyness a virtue
@@joaquimbarbosa896 VERY few people are actually lazy. They need psychological help.
Most so called lazy people are just tuned out from a punishing and unrewarding work ethic and workplaces. Work reform can help get rid of the conditions that make people call others lazy.
Thankfully, as far as I’ve seen now, r/Antiwork has shifted to instead people complaining about horrible work conditions and fighting for better pay and less abusive environments, which is actually reasonable.
I've gone on the sub a few times recently and that seems to be what I see mostly, which is a movement I can get behind. I am very pro-Work-Reform and anti-exploitation
Guys i am a 21 years old anarchist here are the rules...
When it came to light that the creator got several rape accusations the reddit went nuts
And the mods were banning them initially on the notion that they were being "transphobic". Bro I didn't know pointing out someone's a sexual deviant and assaulter that I'm being transphobic.
The interviewed janitor was also a sex weirdo and another was into gay incest.
@@cl570 facts
@@cl570 Apparently they locked their reddit because of "brigading"
@@cl570 some people were using the situation as an excuse to be transphobic and promote the negative stereotypes that exist of the LGBT community being pedophiles.
You forgot one if my favourite parts. The mod that got "kicked" came back. A new account that was only a day old was made a mod and people knew straight away it was the same person. When confronted and told to leave a general "no way, im here to stay" response was given.
you know the username? I just checked and u/abolishwork has completely deleted *his* account lmao
@@IHavAnAkimbonr Na I don't remember it but if you can get a Mods list from antiwork its the one thats only a few weeks old unless they've hidden it or something.
@@partypete2542 I checked. There is one ~1 month old account but as far as I can tell, its not him :/
narrator: he did not stay
@@IHavAnAkimbonr *her :)
You knew the moment Jesse was grinning in the interview, that was a look that said "This worked out better than I thought and I got this fool in more ways than one."
watched it live and that part made me laugh so hard my chest hurt
"She has two goals" I've got news for you, Ghost.
That guy single handedly set back workers' rights in the US by 200 years.
Sad how true this is. I’ve heard boomers talk about this interview. Not a good sign.
@@treysonmcgrady4750 Imagine 80 hours a week being the new norm instead of 40 hours just because of that interview lol
@@its_johnH and they go back to 1930s pay with 2021 prices
@@chuckyyes At this point companies should have rooms for workers to rent in the building they work because prices are way too high to buy a house or an apartment.
@@its_johnH I already gave up. I wasn't getting anywhere didn't make much for an apartment. Atleast I'm not a shmuck helping some selfish asshole achieve his dreams by exploiting me
Anti work was originally ranting about bad management practices and awareness of how to confront/solve shitty work culture. Then "abolish work" crowd came around
I am half convinced r/antiwork is now an elaborate creation of the Babylon Bee
@@zigzog5786 top notch trolling like the anti-madturbation device one of the creators made a page to sell that got lots of attention
@@zigzog5786 God I wish
Reddit crowd in antiwork really tried to take themselves seriously, but anyone with 2 braincells that realising this is reddit thinks otherwise. But they still manage to disintegrate in a brilliant fashion
@@Sevastous Front Page Reddit communities are like stars. They’re made up of the same materials, they repel or destroy anything that comes near, and they’re even worse after they’re past their prime.
Literally every member of that sub: "Obviously if we stopped working you'd just get your food from the store. You're just trying to protect rich people!!!"
> she
"THATS A MAAAAN, BAYBEE..." - Austin Powers
I used to sit around all day not doing anything and feeling shitty.
Turns out all that stress was just me subconsciously hating myself for not doing anything, imagine that.
Bro, glad im not the only one
I finnaly get a day off? Nah lets feel awful
I’ve worked a contract that ended a month ago & I’ve been looking for new jobs ever since (been having good luck lately with interviews though). I gotta say while having a few weeks out of work may be nice if you can afford it, it really does get old & you really do feel like working again.
*I'm in this post and I don't like it.*
IME, I need a balance. I work to feel productive, and once that's done, I'll happily waste away a whole day on enjoyable leisurely activities.
But doing nothing all day everyday just sounds depressing. I'm a pretty lazy person, so having a day to do nothing productive (just enjoying my time, watching movies, playing games, hanging with friends, etc) even multiple weeks, is really enjoyable, but I still need to know I've been productive. Free time is a reward, one that I'll work to achieve.
@@kirin1230 it is, i am from a nation that has a bunch of "problems" a south america one, and no matter where i throw my CV i can't get a job, i used to do some construction and everything else, i am university student who simply wants to help it's family... This feeling is a f****** shit
Antiwork users: I work with industrial machinery and work on a desk for majority of my life
Antiwork mods: I walk a dog 20 hours a week
Most of their users aren't working class
The working class is majority very conservative and takes alot of pride in their work.
Source : worked a part time job during college at a construction site
Source is also demographic statistics, these people are commies, and most of them according to a Reddit survey on r/socialism, which will now get you banned for mentioning, are single, virgin, jobless tankies and wastes of space with rich parents.
Let's not even talk about the fact that a decent size of the subreddit was, in fact, jobless.
@@hellobruh4209 Couldn't that depend on the state you live?
@@randomduck8679 Or like.. country?
The problem with antiwork is if you want the movement to go anywhere you got to do work
That mod was like industry plant tier. It's the perfect person to ruin the movement just by being seen.
Imagine thinking you will get Che Guevara but instead the big reveal is Doreen Ford 😂 who can’t even take care of themselves.
@@lv7603 At least she found time to put on lipstick, even if she didn't bother to clean the house.
@@teebob21Bro is literally a sweaty guy with autism
That ain't no "she" maaaaaaaan
I’m not even a real supporter of all this anti-work ideology and even I could make a better argument than that mod did. How did anyone think that was a good idea
They didn't one annoying mod broke off from the others and came on to rant and rave to fox news, because they were a part of the subreddits "old guard" who had been around before it had been co-opted by people wanting fair wages and such. There was always a great disconnect between the mods and everyone in the sub.
@@griggorirasputin6555 what was wrong with old guard exactly?
Does this guy look like a person who has good ideas to you? Exactly.
@@BlueTyphoon2017 Well the subreddit seems to have been coopted by people who wanted better working conditions and pay, but at first it seemed to be people who thought they shouldn't have to do any work at all, and whatnot. Why do you ask?
They're all cringe on that sub. Get in the wage cage and eat the bugs.
"Laziness is a virtue." I could never get my dad to buy into that.
It is sometimes. Especially for people that just cannot stop being a bust body and can't sit down and relax for more than 5 mins. There's a fine balance between laziness and hard work. Working to Hard is bad for you, but so is being too lazy. You need a bit of both.
@@monsterhuntervideos4446 theres a difference between laziness and rest
Honestly, lazy people can get creative af just to avoid work they have to do
Laziness isn’t a virtue but I’m sure a natural at laziness. Good news I’m hard working too hahahah
@Dragonax , There are different types of lazy people and active people. Someone who is lazy and smart can find innovative ways around obstacles. Antiwork is lazy and dumb.
I'm not a lefty but there shouldn't be any leftist who thinks that Reddit's front page is doing a great job representing them.
they're doing a great job of representing the lefties. the moderator got embarrassed but this is extremely typical reddit behavior
Classic example of Reddit in general really. A power hungry series of echo chambers and 'experts'.
I got booted from r/antiwork when I suggested that I wasn't pro-communism, I was about pro-worker. It was like 50 dislikes and booted.
Wow it's almost like capitalists don't like breaches of contracts too
Communism is for gays which ironically makes up alot of the subreddit 😂😂
@person person it's like dividing by 0
@@mr.congeniality8803 As a libertarian I can respect your end goals and your pursuit of them because clearly that's just your self-interest. While I can't exactly agree with your ideology at least we can both see reddit for what it is. An absolute pile of trash.
I’m pro-communism and pro-worker. The mods on r/anti-work were lazy anarchists, marxists believe that in a socialist society people still have to work. As Lenin once said “he who does not work shall not eat”. Labor is good and anarchism is dumb.
When i joined r/antiwork, the subreddit was more about sharing stories of bad management or just plain stupidity in workplaces, like ironic tales of bosses and manager actually creating "Anti" work by making stupid decisions / behaviors , then it became a movement to congratulate laziness and "everything is the problem but me!" kinda mentality so i just left... when from a enjoyable fire place to a landfill pretty quick
The mods done you dirty.
@@bensoncheung2801 0.00/hr LUL
No it didn't, it's still the same of the former. I learned a lot about OSHA mandates, DoL jurisdictions, and other laws in place that a lot of these scummy jobs try to dance around from Antiwork. Even at-will employments need to adhere these laws and most of the time they prey on people's ignorance which people of the sub exposes. Idk why you feel the need to lie for likes lol.
@@anthonyandrade5071 lmfao, it’s filled with a bunch of lazy good for nothings who would balk at the concept of working an honest day in their lives.
If you want to learn about that shit, read a book
it’s a vent sub, the vast majority of posts and users are just kids finding out that they indeed have to work for a living to make ends meet. there’s a real lack of posts about genuine workplace abuse.
Dude can you imagine going back like 50-60 years and trying to explain to someone any of this stuff?
If there was one group to not send to represent you, its the mods. Mods are always the worst group of power hungry neckbeards.
I used to follow that sub because I'm all against corporatism and toxic corporate culture.
However, I decided to leave once people started harassing me for saying that I was *not an anarcho-communist,* saying I did not belong on the page and eventually they just banned me for mocking them.
Like, these people really thought everyone who wants better working conditions is part of a fringe, radical ideology. Lol, glad I left.
Welcome to the left
liberalism=/= the left, some people don't understand that.
History has proven that most, if not all more radical left movements fall apart to infighting, if not they transform into a strongman cult to prevent this from happening and become what they once hated. It is amusing to observe this cycle even in modern day.
@@dhv2852 Agreed. Liberalism has an inherently individualist philosophy, so of course it doesn't connect with any collectivist ideology, which is what most people mean when referring to "the Left"
Funnily enough, "Liberal Conservative" isn't an oxymoron if you're using those words correctly.
The left commandeers and destroys everything created with good intentions.
im surprised single parents, disabled people, and sweat shop workers were not in antiwork
Because they know better, lol.
Too busy working to spend on reddit
Oh, there were plenty of disabled people in there. That moderator for example.
They actually have jobs and no time for scrolling Reddit
@@RoflcopterLamoI shouldn’t laugh at that 💀
I remember getting faxes sent to my printer at my old job randomly about r/antiwork and thinking "man, what a waste of paper".
I guess the subreddit didn't work.
I remember lurking around the sub when I was working a shitty job at a movie theater with low hours, low pay, and a whole lot of bullshit. I fully support work reform ideas like providing better benefits, the 4-day workweek, etc. But I really did start to realize that a good portion of the subreddit was karma whoring and NEET people who wanted to justify their laziness. I hate that the subreddit has tarnished what was originally a pretty good thing. I think people in the US (as well as other countries) worship work culture too much to the point where it becomes unhealthy. Antiwork started as something against that. It reminded people that there was more to life than working a shitty job for jackshit pay and that "things are worse in other countries" isn't a good excuse. Sure, could be worse but I don't think Americans are "spoiled" just because they want better pay and management that doesn't use them as a step ladder. Of course, Reddit has to ruin everything it touches one way or another
I am absolutely in support of work reform. But one thing I’ve learned is that you can’t just jump the shark and state your eventual goals at the very beginning. Prime example: Abraham Lincoln. Always had the plans for abolition and civil rights in mind, but didn’t say them outright until the social climate was ready. Be like a sniper in the bushes. Move slowly, advancing towards your goals with mind to your surroundings, but don’t waste it all trying to accomplish everything immediately. Accomplishing it later is better than never accomplishing it. Now r/antiwork was a completely different story. The idea that people shouldn’t work is wishful thinking at best and malicious delusion at worst. I’ve seen people in this comment section say that laborious jobs should be automated. This is a terrible idea that every fat cat billionaire would leap on if they had the chance, so the fact that the reformers themselves are pushing it is hilarious to me. That would deprive the working class of all its power over the wealthy. Labor unions can work because businesses can’t just do that. You can get better workers’ rights because you work in those conditions and exploit your hold over your employers. Having humans in manual jobs be replaced by robots is a dystopian idea for a reason. It’s the most power we have over the upper class, and no one but a fool would sacrifice it for convenience. What we should do instead is find ways to make these jobs safer, to incorporate more skills into them, change it from a menial, mindless slog to one where people can exercise some talent. Of course, benefits, higher pay, more reasonable hours, better vacation time, pensions, should all be ideas we should be pushing forward.
I do agree that work culture has warped from “we’re WILLING to work harder than anyone else because we find virtue in hard work and effort” to “everyone should work as hard as they can or else.” There’s a study I saw conducted by a preschool that tested whether positive or negative reinforcement was more effective in adults. Surprisingly, contrary to popular belief, the study found that positive reinforcement is far more effective than negative reinforcement. The test revolved around what would better encourage parents to pick up their children at a time better for the staff. The first test was where the preschool announced that if parents were late to pick up their children, they’d have to pay a fee. This actually resulted in either mostly the same or even slightly less parents picking their children up at the right time. The second test was where they changed their policy and announced that if parents were early to pick up their children, the child would receive a cookie. Many more parents picked up their children on time than both before the policy changes and while the first one was implemented because the child gave positive feedback to their parents, and the parents were more willing to come for their child to receive a reward than they were to avoid a consequence. The point I’m making is that I think that benefits and positive reward for good work ethic would actually be more effective at generating better work ethic.
But you may be wondering why I framed my argument as to how it would benefit employers. Well, you want to get employers on your side or at least less opposed to these ideas, so telling them the positive impact these policy changes would have for them will be more effective than brute forcing it. The best way to defeat an enemy is to 1. not make an enemy of them in the first place, or 2. get them on your side. If we can frame our arguments this way and find solutions that produce positive outcomes for both parties, we will accomplish far more than by simply looking for what benefits one party the most. Well, that’s enough rambling from me.
Trust me, there's a difference between an aggressive workaholic ethic and simply being grateful for having a job or finding a job you enjoy. You're not gonna find any first gen immigrants rallying to abolish work in the U.S. lmao it's the stupidest shit I've ever heard, funniest thing is the kids behind these movements have worked in places that even have A.C. for fuck's sake. Try roofing in the middle of July or working a nursery job to help support your family knowing you're the only thing they can depend on. Honestly it makes me sick how it's gotten to the point where 'hustle' culture is frowned upon and people who like working hard to achieve their goals a little faster are almost shamed now, this would only happen in a first world country where people have to look under the rocks for a reason to cry about.
@@indigocloud8408 I had a roofing job yes it sucked. And it was a little asinine when the owner was a new widow wouldn't even invest in her fleet of trucks while she raped in every penny of profit of the company, while refusing to let her employees get time off for important matters. I'm not surprised that it declared bankruptcy.
@@thegrapethief5514 Call me cynical, but I don't trust corporations to act buddy-buddy with labor reformists. Hell, I just watched the 5th anti-union training video at my job this year. Maybe in smaller businesses change can come around faster, but larger companies are bogged down with shitloads of bureaucracy and penny-pinching. Just look at the countless labor strikes in the past 20 years. The only reason companies actually bothered to do something (even if it was just for PR) was because the lack of labor was directly cutting into their bottom line. Many companies will just take a signed petition and plop it into a shredder while claiming "we'll work on it."
Sadly though, it's becoming more and more apparent that low labor jobs are being replaced by robots. Why wouldn't they be? Robots don't get sick, they don't need lunches, and the cost of maintenance is usually cheaper than paying employees for the output of productivity. Sooner or later though, the 1% are gonna realize that there is no more middle class to buy their products. Therefore, they'll have to either find another way to make money or actually pay attention to the shrinking middle class.
@@ethereal231 neither do I. But it’s not like brute forcing it is going to work either. Way I see it, they’re only going to do the bare minimum and try to keep their profits at maximum, so really the only way to convince them to do anything is to either crack down super hard, which is becoming harder to do with corps like Disney and Amazon, or speak to them in a language they understand, which is profits. They’re obviously never going to willingly change their policies, but they’ll at least be more open to the idea once they’re under intense pressure if they think they can get out of it with as much money as possible.
I actually don’t see that happening too much. What I DO see happening is low end jobs being outsourced to countries like China and Vietnam. Because what’s even cheaper than paying to make or maintain robots? Using actual slaves, or people paid so little they might as well be slaves. And when you have a population as big as China, replacing an injured or dead worker is extremely easy. I’m not an economist, so I’m not going to make any crazy predictions, but maybe this Amazon union is a sign of something. I’d simply prefer to remain hopeful and focus on the possibility for positive change instead of just letting things happen. I find cynicism to be a boring outlook on life, so pardon me if I seem a little too hopeful. I just don’t see the point in talking about problems without thinking of solutions.
The fact that the news anchor didn’t burst out laughing or really argued with her and just let her explain herself is basically the perfect setup for making someone look like a fool, he knows his stuff.
Her?
@@spiderfrog5764 It’s a Reddit mod.
@@yanhuideng8263 um, sweaty, that's MA'AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM...
The art of war:
"Don't interrupt your enemy while they are making a mistake."
*him, himself
Stop coddling mentally ill people
thats not a woman 8:01
shes probably trans
@@samwood1975 still not a woman
He’s not a woman.
Literal "life imitating art" Chudjak
@@georgesanderson918And why is that up for you to decide? She's a woman, end of story.
I was a fairly new redditor when this happened. It's been delightful reliving it. Thanks.
Living unemployed without any actual job drives you up the wall, I can easily imagine wanting a better job but to permanently sit around and do nothing sounds awful. I get working on tangible hobbies that require effort and skill but they just straight up only really want hedonistic activities and habits, not many are saying "I would like an economy where I have the financial mobility and freedom to work as an independent craftsman instead of selling my soul to a company" or "I'd love to work in some form of food service if only it had fair pay and less habitually stressful conditions as well as management backing up employees against customer abuse". They just want to sit around and play vidya while eating whatever weeb snack they've decided on today. This is why you dont let Redditers represent anything that requires adult thinking and responsibility.
Those people just assume that you'll be happier by spending all your free time gaming and being on Reddit
As someone who's job is just being the incompetent owner of a very small European business with nothing to do but take calls and chill out, it makes coal mining sound fun, honestly.
Nah m8 they're just working on their "mental trauma"
If you've got nothing that fulfills your life then yes. I could read so many books, be in the gym all day long, do fun things with my girlfriend... The list never ends. If you just sit on your ass you're gonna wanna kill yourself
I've been there back then when at first I didn't want to seek job after I graduate (I want to took some time off after finishing study) and yeah... it's not fun, even if you have lot of saving/financial help from your family to support your "jobless" life
@@zyncra3965 or start shit on the internet
I love the idea of blaming fox news for what they've been doing for 26 years.
“Its all Fox’s fault!” They cry, even though Fox allowed them to choose who got to be interviewed in the first place.
Fox news was bad faith towards a group that disagreed with their super conservative pro-capitalist ideology?
*suprised Pikachu face*
What's even funnier and makes the subreddit more ridiculous is Fox didn't use their usual aggressive tactics when talking with people. They literally let the mod make an ass of themselves. It would have happened with or without Fox.
@Paul Martin Guess that side of the sword was a little duller than the other
@@frocco7125 Yeah, they asked the super difficult questions that make you look bad:
What do you think?
What do you do for a living?
What would you do with your free time?
What would you teach?
Came here to laugh at antiwork, left with burning hatred for corrupt reddit mods...
Sorry, "she?" That ain't no "she."
It’s not a she it’s a man pretending to be a woman.
I knew he had to eventually do this topic. Reddit definitely is a gold mine of cringe and stupidity to laugh at
I want to see an episode on Tronaldodumpo
How is it cringe and stupid?
@@frocco7125 oh god, I had personal experience with him.
Pretty sure someone could do a whole research paper on human behavior and power just by going on Reddit. It’s literally the greatest, most obvious example we have of how fringe groups entirely hijack large groups and how a few people in “power” abuse it to the absolute limit when given the chance
@@PSL416 So true, I think that would be an interesting thing to research tbh, it’s human nature at its finest. It’s kind of like “Absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
I can’t believe he didn’t do any work to get ready for the intervi-
… wait.
😂
TRUEE
Ghost coment
>"she"
Lol, lmao even.
Trans people’s existences are not up for debate
@@henrynelson9301 No
@@henrynelson9301
I mean they “exist” I guess. But they aren’t the gender they claim to be other than their birth gender.
@@henrynelson9301wait ppl were debating that?
>she
This entire situation confirms that Redditors don't know what they're talking about at all when it comes to politics
🤓
Especially the case when over 50% of redditors aren't even Americans who love talking about American politics.
@@uragirimono6519 "🤓" - 🤓
A bunch of women joined Reddit from tumblr and turned those Redditors from incels to simps. This proves that they just listen to whatever authority figure tells them they are wrong.
Reddit is a place where people _sound_ like they know what they're talking about until you come across a topic you personally know a lot about and realize they don't know shit
>21 years old
>"long term unemployed"
damn thats sad. imagine being 21 and deciding youre gonna just not work the rest of your life. shits gonna hit them at 40. probably even at 25 or 30 to be honest
and they'll think to themselves "why is life so unfair?"
the welfare state needs serious reform, these people are actual literal leeches
I don’t feel sad for them.
@@carlsagan2607 I don’t feel empathy for them, but im saying it’s sad what can happen to people who use the internet too much.
@@jacobm92 I see your point. Honestly, I should have gone into more detail I was short for time. I don’t feel sorry for those types of people because they are the wrong people representing what I thought wasn’t such a bad idea. They are an embarrassment to the everyday working people struggling with two jobs to feed their families and barely get by. People who are contributing hard to society and can’t even get decent healthcare without crippling them financially. I agree with people getting better compensation for their work, whether it be salary or at the very least healthcare. However, I do not support these groups of people that think them working 10 hours a week entitles them to 60k a year. Or that working in general shouldn’t be a thing and that they deserve a crap ton of money for being on their butts all day. Like I said, the idea is good, they just had the wrong people representing it.
You wear your influences on your sleeve and I love it. Great video.
This video is a masterpiece. One of the funniest things I’ve seen.
Gotta admire Watters for being able to hold back his laughter by hiding it with a smile, I would’ve started laughing like those two fish from the Spongebob movie
“What’ll it be fellas? Mustard, or ketchup?”
My knee's is numb from the slappin!
Spongebob is always relatable.
When she said she was a dogwalker I could not stop laughing.
@@jahimuddin2306 she?
Yea but I don't really think he'd be in a position to laugh at a dog walker tho, as pathetic as that person was, he's a talk show host he doesn't do jack shit either
Reddit and Twitter go hand to hand when it comes to the toxicity of people.
Where is a not toxic platform?
@@papyrusthegreat457 well,no one
But youtube is like the least toxic
@@tuerculosisgaming6307 lol
This thread gave me an aneurysm
@@papyrusthegreat457 pornhub probably
8:05 "She"
Why are you people attacking gender if it doesn't have anything to do with character flaws?
"So that was a fucking lie" - Martin Luther King Jr
That’s definitely not a “she.”
she could've atleast taken the chris chan route
@@lotus20856oh no
@@FireGlitch in appearance btw
"Lying for fake internet points" Yes this describes 90% of Reddit.
90% of the internet
Yet so many people take Reddit stories at face value like rSlash. Even though I politely asked him to please not do that and defenders would make crappy excuses like “it’s his job” or something.
Man people read that top post and (even considering it's fake) don't see OP as being completely unreasonable? Like the boss didn't even say anything wrong but the employee goes crazy over it and writes him a lefty meme before quitting. Maybe we're just supposed to infer that he was treated unjustly offscreen, cause I don't get that from the picture at all
Its because the whole environment is already doused with similar posts people are just quick to jump into it and half-ass support it without even reading too much into it
It’s a layered issue man, we live in a crazy convulsed world, there’s a decent chance that it was someone working to undermine the movement. By posting a bunch of unreasonable BS as if it’s logical it makes the general public miss the message of what you’re actually trying to achieve.
For example, if I wanted to discredit Pro-choicers I would make an account on a pro choice forum with views saying “we should be able to kill children after they’re born as long as it’s 24hr after birth” and then some one who is pro life can screen shot it and say “see they literally want to murder children” bc making people on the fence think they’re crazy is easier than me trying to make them see eye to eye with me.
But also it’s Reddit, it very likely it’s entirely made up or that the poster is really just that removed from reality
@@Poopoopeepee217 you typed said leftist meme
Just a typical leftist coom stain who thinks they're entitled to other people's money
@@14TND88 I fail to see the "leftist" or "Meme" part of this, they just used Pro-Life Vs Pro-Choice as example.
The amount of UA-camrs i have seen that make their videos super inspired by the internet historian "The fall of 76" way of commenting is pretty interesting.
I could never actually finish that interview, it stung ny soul.
Funniest bit I've seen in decades.