Panther tanks and a rare Flak 41 engage a Soviet armored thrust during the Vistula-Oder Offensive
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2024
- 0:02 Sd.Kfz. 251/21 Schützenpanzerwagen (Drilling MG151s).
This variant of the Sd.Kfz. 251 half track was fitted with MG 151 aircraft cannon in either 15 or 20mm caliber as a light anti-aircraft weapon that was also useful in the ground support role. The combined rate of fire was around 35 rounds per second.
0:07 A rare example of the 8.8cm Flak 41 that was designed to address the Flak 18/36/37's lack of performance against more modern aircraft flying faster and at higher altitudes.
Rheinmetall responded to the Luftwaffe requirement with a new design that was still in 88mm caliber but using with a larger cartridge and a longer barrel to achieve a higher velocity. Because of problems in service, the guns were almost exclusively used in Germany where they could be properly maintained and serviced, although some examples did turn up in North Africa. Only around 500 examples were manufactured, compared to around 20,000 of the earlier 88mm Flak series.
0:10 One of the issues plaguing the Flak 41 was casing jamming on extraction, and this is illustrated in the footage as the casing extracts only partially and needs to be manually removed.
0:13 Knocked out Soviet T-34/76 Model 1943 tanks with a penetrating hit to the turret rear
0:19 Knocked out Soviet T-34/85 and T-34/76 tank Model 1943 tanks.
0:21 Sd.Kfz. 251 half-track.
0:29 Flak 41 crew carrying ammunition that gives a sense of how large the round was.
The high velocity that it needed to be effective as an anti-aircraft gun also made it a superb anti-tank weapon when provided with appropriate ammunition. With shells leaving the muzzle at almost one kilometer per second it could penetrate 120mm of armor at a range of 2 kilometers. This meant it could defeat any Allied tank deployed in WWII at combat ranges.
0:40 Flak 41 is seen firing while still mounted on its transport carriage with the lateral outriggers deployed for stability.
This was a common tactic with the Flak 18/36/37 too, and allowed the crew to be ready to "shoot and scoot" and relocate to avoid being targeted by enemy artillery and air support.
0:43 One of the Flak 41 crew is armed with a captured Soviet PPSh-41 submachinegun
0:45 Jagdpanzer 38 that was the principle German tank destroyer at this late stage in WWII.
0:52 Panther tanks in a late war disruptive camouflage pattern that some sources say would be painted using the primer as a base coat in order to speed up manufacturing.
0:00 Panther tank in a late war disruptive camouflage scheme - Наука та технологія
No idea how this channel gets so much rare high-quality footage. Has anyone ever seen any of this, anywhere?? Its insane.
@@derfreiwillige1940 I’ve just never seen any of this stuff before. Watch any ww2 channel and you keep seeing the same stuff recycled.
Karbine has said before that he’s trawled archives for quite a while to get this stuff. I’ve found some on sites such as the Imperial War Museum, Associated Press, Die Wochenshau, Pathe News. Certainly a great collection 😊
To be honoust ive seen this before, probably part of the german wochenschau news.
The origin.. was Deutsche Wochenschau.-...'Weekly News..= 1945, Winter 1944-1945 near 'Seelower Höhen'
near, Village Seelow in the Height/-Hills.. Last important Batailles, Thousands of Artilleries.. via Berlin..
Combattant- mainly General/Marschall Shukov.. this Area's.. Most Material tanks, Artillery, Ammo
etc. came by USA- Contract 'Lend & Lease, ca. 120-Thousand Vehicles..M4-Sherman Tank, Studebaker-2,5-ton, Artillery etc.
This Film's, here are cutted from var. Reel's, this time, this Area, showing - Mixed - Wehrmacht,
SS-Units and last but Not- least, Our Old's, some have been WW-1-Soldiers..named *VolksSturm
- very 'Successful..equipped w/ Bazookas..against Tanks M4-US and mass of T-34,
Hope helping for Info's, in Telegramm Style; Greetings from Germany
@@AlexanderJScheu Thanks!
When Mr HW Carbine says "rare," you'd better believe it. Great description again as always! Cheers!
@@derfreiwillige1940 it's obviously not as "rare" as the videos on your channel, but I hope you can still appreciate the crisp imagery and lack of watermarks, indicating it is archival quality footage, rather than a click bait copy.
In this case I was describing the Flak 41 itself as rare and not the footage, although it is hardly ever seen on film, I think the only other historical clip I found was this example captured in North Africa: www.reddit.com/r/88mm/comments/19b3uag/british_troops_examine_a_relatively_rare_88mm/
They looked pretty cheerful considering the odds against them
They're enjoying some Black Humor by laughing at their impending doom.
Probably elements of 9th Army conducting their local counterattacks against the offensive. None of them got very far.
Footage of the Flak 41 in a ground role must be really rare.
I keep looking at that gun. I think it's actually a PAK 43. They did put a few on the same carriage as the Flak gun.
If you look at the casing it's the Long one for the Pak 43. The PAK 41 was also anti tank only but in 7.5 not 8.8. I could be wrong though.
@@derfreiwillige1940 Wouldn't know; I'm not a Wehraboo.
@@haveraygunwilltravel It's an 8.8cm Flak 41, it was a similar effort to the Pak 43 but seeking to boost the anti-aircraft performance rather than anti-tank, hence the bigger cartridge. The carriage is also unique to the design.
@@hw97karbine Yeah its not a Pak 43. It's definitely the Flak 41 and this footage of it in action let alone against ground targets is very rare indeed. As the front closed in on Germany it wasn't uncommon for anti-aircraft batteries to get rolled up in the fighting. Otherwise, this was the penultimate version of the 88mm gun and actually the best and most modern version. By the time it went into production there was a lot of demand for a heavier caliber than 88mm and not many were built.
Always awesome content, thanks, keep it coming.
My favourite channel on UA-cam
An interesting and not often used camouflage scheme. These Panthers at the begining probably belong to the 25th Panzergrenadier Division, near Küstrin in 1945.
Always a great video and presentation.
The wounded show a message. Eventually you're all wounded or dead. The enemies had more men and equipment. Subtraction.
Ukraine is finding this one out now.
Man do i wish we had sounds for this :(
See: Die Deutsche Wochenschau Nr. 752
the gun shield is what, 1000 kilos? seeing it shudder like that ... the force of the 41 !!!
I've seen bits and pieces of this footage, just a few seconds of it in a Deutsche Wochenschau, and stills, but not so much.
I wonder in what area these photos were taken. Looking at the landscapes, it's early spring, no snow, i.e. the more western lands of today's Poland. In January 1945, near where I live, there were large tank battles, but the main enemy (or ally, depending on the side of the conflict) was winter
Panther moving behind the brick wall appears to have lost both boxes off the rear hull
Also in the last frames the panthers radio op hatch look like its propped open with the closing rod
what color is that fruit stripe gum cammo on those last Panthers??
diagonal.. Awesome!
At the beginning of 1945, the basic color of the German tanks was changed from dark yellow to olive green, with applied broad stripes in reddish brown, edged with thinner stripes in dark yellow.
These Panthers belong to the 25. Panzergrenadierdivision, this unit used this very special scheme in 1945 (the 25. was one of the very few Panzergrenadierdivisions which have tanks instead of StuGs in their tank batallion.
Hetzer(sic) at 45secs
Sd.Kfz 251/21 “Drilling” triple auto-cannon
At 0:36 the guy in front of the dude with glasses, what firearm is he holding? Looks American? And at 0:44 solider has a ppsh? Hetzers as well 👍
PPSh-41 noted in the description but I had not seen 0:36, well spotted! It looks like an Italian-made Beretta M38/42.
@@hw97karbinehey, yeah cool you might be right on 0:36 I did however discover the MAS-38 when I was looking up the Beretta model you suggested , you think it could be that? Great channel mate 👍 don’t stop.
@@hw97karbinescratch that thought, it is the M38/4/2 by the look of the groove down the side.
@@bradmanharris7350 cheers!
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Min 0:52 Flak Drilling
MG151/20
I noticed that.
I wonder who came up with the idea of this atrocious zebra "camouflage" at 0:52 . Some allied saboteur probably. Looks like an eyesore - why not make the stripes wavy and add some contrasting dots.
This camouflage was not painted by any saboteurs but was applied from October 1944 at Maschinenfabrik Niedersachsen Hannover (M.N.H) assembly company.
@@ukasz-zm9qc If even the chief of military intelligence (Canaris) worked against the regime, any MNH employee responsible for camouflage development could've too! Apparently the same happened when US Army adopted the UCP - CIA should take a close look at the people involved.
Germany was experiencing a shortage of materials to manufacture paint so had to economize on its application on tanks. The red oxide primer became the standard base coat with the other colors added as stripes. Those other colors were made from anything the factory could get their hands on so would fade rapidly and get washed off by rainfall.
@@billwilson-es5ynI'm talking about the pattern, not the colors.
@@MorangRus That striped pattern used less paint. It also was better suited for use in urban regions where distant objects had vertical lines from buildings and tree trunks.
Little question, why do you remove the audio? I’ve seen footage on this channel elsewhere with audio and the commentary.
The audio is interesting if one is watching the entire clip as a historical document in and of itself, but for individual scenes, the sound is almost always dubbed on and therefore adds nothing to the footage, unless it's a speech or an interview, and I also remove a lot of extraneous parts anyway so it wouldn't make sense. If I'm interested in gun camera footage I don't need different scenes to be punctuated by closeups of a random control column or an unrelated Fw 190 flying by.
Kids.
So the Steiner's counteroffensive was successful? Damn, they lie to us all the time.
I think this is a retreat not an offensive!
It was a Soviet offensive operation.
Vistula offensive by Soviets probably. They had reached the oder river Bank by late Feb
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Да, немцы одержали в 1945 году несколько более мелких побед, которые русские по понятным причинам не афишировали.
The Vistula Order Offensive started on Jan 12. By feb 2 the Russians were across the Order in places and less than 50 miles from Berlin. Video shows German soldiers smiling. Propaganda film. The Russians destroyed Army Group A which lost over 260,000 killed, wounded , captured and missing. Cool video but nothing for the Heer to smile about.
Soldiers from all sides, in every war, usually smile for the camera. They don't want to be filmed with honest expressions of being in fear for their lives, especially when they are approaching the front lines, but still not in battle.🤔Also, many of these soldiers may have had a rare meal & a few shots of schnapps before the battle too!🤔In the case of the Vistula-Oder Offensive, many of the soldiers were very young & quite naive. They probably still believed Hitler, Himmler, Goering & Goebbels when the Nazi leaders claimed that Germany was producing 'wonder weapons', and - German forces could halt the advance of the Soviets for a few more weeks- Germany would be victorious in the end.🤔It is not surprising that, yes, the propaganda departments made good use of footage showing the young, naive soldiers to prove to the people at home that their soldiers were still enthusiastic & optimistic, despite the setbacks of 1944 and 1945. 🤔
before the vistula order offensive there was a big tank engagement near the vistula and not that far from warsaw at radzymin/prage wich was a major loss for the soviets and saw the destruction and encirclement of and entire soviet tank corps destroyed around 300 tanks in total (on soviet side) was lost and a couple thousend killed/wounded. German casulties i dont know but it was a german victory fought between. (german side fspz hg, and independent aa battlion, 2 or smth infantry divison, 5th ss panzer and i also believe 19th panzer was present and forward elements just arriving of 3rd ss panzer totenkopf. Soviets side there was 3rd tank corps (Destroyed) 8th guards and 16th tank wich suffered major losses and some infantry divison.
I wrote this to explain why some germans might be smiling and in high hopes.
note that most elements of 5th ss, fspz and 19th arrived peacemeal and not at once. So during the start it was up to the infantry divisons and hg vanguard, equipped with jagdpanzer iv sturmgrenadiers to blunt the sovier assault aswell as the independent flak battlion.
also forgot this was late july to early august this happend.
I think what you are describing is Model's Warsaw end of July counteroffensive, which halted the Red Army outside the city just before the Polish uprising.
Also check out May 1944 Târgu - Frumos battle where the Großdeutschland Division halted the Red Army's thrust deep into Romania proper and removing temporarily its threat to the oil fields.
@@mulapare2593 that is true i was decribing that battle. ive also heared of gd feats in romania. However right after that they were sent to the baltic during operation doppelkopf and suffered heavy casulties during the battle up the highway towards Riga. It ended up being panzverband Strachwitz that reconnect to ag c and ag n
@@jensole8939 In January and February 1945, the Russians also took a beating thanks to operations Konrad I-III and Sudwind.