Testing Kaizo Chisels - Great Panel Line Scribers
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A tip for beginners: very lightly sanding the piece first will help keep the chisel from sliding all over the place. Adds some help to keeping along the guide tape.
Great tip, thanks buddy
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I ordered these immediately! You don't know how long I've been looking for this exact kind of thing! Trying to do panel lines with a pointy scribe and a razor saw is clumsy at best. This is awesome!
Great video as always, Rex!
Wanted to let people know that, if you're looking for cheaper Magic Erasers, look for "Melamine" sponges instead. It's the generic name of the material, and it can be bought in bulk instead of smaller, more expensive packs.
Kudos to all who do scribing on their model kits, Im all thumbs.
It's definitely a labor of love
This is awesome! I have a Patlabor model from the late 80's that need to have deeper lines. I've been riding the fence on what to get to do the lines as the Tamiya Scriber 2 is so cumbersome to use on the curved surfaces (the handle...grr). Thanks for another great tool video and I am looking forward to build videos
Thanks for the “inkwell pen as a platelet line applicator” tip. Also, thanks for that “line width” comparison plastic sheet. Evergreen makes many plastic sheet and plastic shape packages.😳👍😳
Hmm nice now I learn more new things. I love that cutting tool never seen it before.
Paul from NB Canada. I am ssooo happy you're doing this review. I just bought a 10 PC set off Amazon to see how they work!!
I own 4 of these .1,.2,.5,3. I’ve used them on a couple kits now and they are pretty nice and The handle is great! Although these are nice, the dispae chisels are definitely more beginner friendly and produce a very clean cut if your not comfortable already with chisels or scribes.
In what ways are dspiae chisels more beginner friendly? I’m kinda stuck on which ones to buy. There’s also madworks chisels (the cheaper ones not dlc) that go for about 10 each on new type. How’s the durability on the kaizo ones so far
@@justindoan9055 well they are designed to be the “pull type” of scriber which is much easier to use vs BMC/SAB chisel type. I also have a couple madworks chisels and they are very easy to use as well. If I’m honest, I don’t think I’ll buy any more kaizos at this point. They just don’t seem as consistently sharp as I thought they would be. Also dspaie sells a great starter set that comes with a handle for like 54 bucks if you can find it in stock somewhere!
@@Gundumb_guy ahh thats a bummer since they were pretty affordable. If i were to get 2 or 3 widths what do you think I should go for. I want one for general lines and those small notches that people like to do. I mainly do mg kits maybe rg here and there.
I also dont think dspiae has any .2mm instock anywhere. So if you reccomend that, what could replace .2
@@justindoan9055 if you think you would be comfortable using the straight type of chisels, then by all means get a couple of those kaizos! They are not bad, by any means, and you can definitely use them without buying the handle if you don’t want to invest in it at first. The only reason I won’t buy more is because I’m going to just save and buy one or two SABs at a time I think. Although for the price, the madworks chisels are pretty good. Look at Justin at G-studio, I think he mainly uses madworks and his level of work is insane! As for sizes I would get something along the lines of .1,.2,.4, and if your wanting to do notches then maybe .6? It’s hard to say really but I have a 3mm that I’ve used once and a 1mm that I use from time to time for doing bigger notches and negative space carving. The real key is to buy the tape! It’s definitely worth buying a couple different sizes to find what works best for you and they actually last a REALLY long time so it’s worth the investment imo.
@@Gundumb_guy im ngl i might just invest in SAB. I was going to buy a bigger cutting mat and the holder, but that makes it just as expensive if i was just going to get 2 SAB scribers. I can definetly deal with a smaller cutting mat for now. Prob gonna go with .2 or .3 then .6 for notches
Always have trouble with panel lines using a pointed tool so the chisel looks the way to go. Love the dymo tape tip. Thanks for another great vid Robert
Thx for the demo...and the dymo trick...
I will maybe try one of those
Rock on
Thanks for the great review - I ordered a set tonight, as I'm in the middle of a 3D printed project that will need a lot of panel lines re-scribed after I finish all the filling and sanding. If that day ever happens LOL.
Nice! I've been thinking about getting a few scribers and these look like a good option. In your own panel liner paint line, I would also recommend that you do some of the standard colors. For some you're going to be the gateway to get into panel lining and it's easy when you're picking up some colors, to also get a standard color when you order. Or even if you've been panel lining for a while and you pick some of your special colors, you might be low on a standard color and throw that onto your order.
Hey man, you should do a video on how to sharpen hobby chisels. I've been trying to find a guide to sharpen my Madworks one (I SLIGHTLY chipped it when it slipped.) but guides for sharpening hobby chisels don't really exist. It's kind of nuts. I want to buy a honing jig but I can't find one that's the proper size for it. Would be cool if you showed people how to sharpen other common hobby tools as well. Thanks!
such a satisfying vid...watching this relaxes me lol!! that's why I do models..you have to be calm to do it:)
Very interesting. I am trying to learn to make ANY first cut lightly before cutting/scoring/engraving. It took me a long time to understand that plastic has a "grain". It's not as obvious as wood, but it exists and shows up when doing fine scribing or cutting, If one breaks that grain, then the follow up cuts will be straight and true.
nice tools keep them coming
For the magic erasers, you can buy the same melomine sponges for way cheaper. They will break easier but you will get 100 for 5 dollars so it wont matter.
😮🤓👍😎💯 Thanks!!! Nice Kits!!!!
Thanks for the review, they look like excellent scribers, hopefully someone starts selling them in SouthAfrica.
thank you rex i was just about to start looking for some chisels. wonderful video
These are scribers not chisels (even though the package says chisel). The Trumpeter tool shown is a chisel. Two entirely different purposes.
I'll get a 0.15 at the end of the month, i dont want to make my own panel line cause i dont have the patience for it and i just want to accent some lines so the liner dont just rub off!
I'd like to see a comparison video testing these chisels against the SAB chisels, BMC chisels.
As I collect more I'll do a comparison video for sure
BMC 0.1mm, 0.15mm & 0.2mm is unrivaled on WAVE, DSPIAE & SAB
I've tested DSPIAE & SAB
DSPIAE is the most solid but at the same time the most unstable(blade stuck often), you can use it as a marker for BIG parts & making marks to area you wanna cut due to its blade strength, don't use it on precise details
SAB glides better on most plastic than DSPIAE and it imitates BMC handle, its also pretty rigid & you can use it as BMC alternative is awful thing happen on your 0.1mm BMC
BMC is not as rigid as those 2 above, but due to this, they glide on parts easily & for some reason, scraped plastic doesn't collect as much as DSPIAE & BMC, making work much smoother than DSPIAE & BMC
My conclusion : BMC 0.1 - 0.2mm is mandatory if you work alot on 12cm-25cm kit, there is alternative, but BMC is the best i know so far
You can substitute 0.3mm above with other chisel, but i believe BMC will always be the smoothest & the cleanest out of all it competitor, for now
Those are chunky hunks of Tungsten in those! Great price for all of them Id say youre just about paying for just the raw Tungsten just about! You could scribe steel plate with those suckers! They ought to last a lifetime.
They really are nice tools at a great price. Real good deal for sure
Great tool. Need to get one
i just order some cant wait to theses to ship
thanks for doing this video 👍
They aren’t long enough. The sab ones are a little thinner and about a half a inch longer. That little bit helps for you to hold it in your hand. I have two of these kiazo ones. And they just aren’t long enough for me to use comfortably. I pretty much only use sab now.
That because you’re supposed to use the handle.
Been doing scribing on some gundams the last few days. I might have to pick up some of these to try. Great video. Probley got to jump on the patrion to support you. The Mad-works should be realy good, i would like to see you try them out. The guy that has the StudioG UA-cam channel and the StudioG Store uses them a lot on his insane master builder gundam builds
That looks like a really clean scribe. You know what would compliment that? Newtype got these new chisels that are meant to turn seams into panel lines. They're a great if not better alternative to the elusive, overpriced BMC Danmo chisels. Jenic made a good video demonstrating them.
Do you have a link to those or the name of them you can share by any chance? Got me interested on those now too o-o
@@deathyclockz5650 yeah it's called Immature Uncle Line Tool B13 and B25
I'm not sure if BMC is overpriced
Their other stuff? Maybe
On 0.1mm, 0.15mm & 0.2mm, SAB can't rival it on how BMC glide on plastic
But hey, different user different feel, work with what you can have
Just a heads up, you don't need to get Mr. Clean Magic Erasers. The type of foam they use is melamine. It's extremely cheap to buy either pre cut or in massive sheets.
Finally! A review of something I desperately need an upgrade on.
Find someone that uses chisel frequently on custom kit before buying to get review 😂
Great video! I wish this was done before I purchased a set of SAB ones, these are half the price!
Hey Thank You
They kind of look hard to hold. I'm sure they're fine, but I've sunk enough money into chisels. The handful I have from Dspiae and Madworks are doing great for me so far.
Great job
Well done 👍🏻
I want them aaaaaalllllll!!! The results that come out of these are spicy, def want to give them a shot
Surprised no one has mentioned, you're using the tool wrong. These are push broaches; if you want to pull, then you need hook broaches.
I'll tell you what you can do you can spread the wealth LOL all I need it one or two LOL. 🙂 Thomas over at The Model Hobbyist
So I'm looking for sizes to just deepen pre existing panel lines. Other than .15, can some of you guys make any good recommendations?
Depending on the scale of the kit. What kits will you use it on?
Oh sorry, I forgot to say. But I will be using them on some large high grades (i.e. Messer, Nightingale, Kshatriya, and the Xi Gundam,) but mostly on MGs. I've heard that the .15mm is perfect for most panel lines, but I want to get a couple of extra to cover my bases for some of those wonky sizes.
I like the tamyia panel line scriber holder and points they are so nice but they are a little expensive
Yes those are nice. I have it here on my bench that I'll review here on the channel. They aren't cheap though that's for sure
The closest alternatives to BMC panel liner chisels are SAB's (Samawangu) in terms of price and quality. Some quality issues with Kaizo products. I tossed mine out after a few tries.
True, they’re bad chisel ! Should spend more to use in long term and get better panel line shape. Tbh I never see Barbatos he uses chisel much, same as some other youtubers reviewed these chisel. Cheap cheap no good even these are $12 each now.
Btw Madwork Mr Pro chisel is excellent too but nees to buy handle to work with.
Just going to go ahead and say it - you have the most tools/paints out of everyone on YT and you always tend to leave important things out of your reviews. Barely zoomed into the tool to show the edge quality and grind which is paramount in a tool like this. Are they true to size, how well do they sit in the handle? Are they straight? How's the edge finish? I'm sure your videos attract Adam Savage type of folks who love tools and are nuts collecting tons of hobby things and I think videos like this one miss the mark for some of us. I guess that's where Patreon and comments come in. Pretty smart. Where are the "bad" reviews? When the majority of items that you showcase are good it won't be long until people start suspecting other motives. You hinted at getting set up for build videos. That would be a welcome change.
I’m going to need a good chisel set eventually for modifying non-MG 1/100 equipment for a MG.
🎉zup, thanks for the video 😎👍🏼
Where was this a few days ago??? I just came home from a show in NH and these were at a table for sale. I had no idea what the deal was with these. I wish I had known.
Sorry buddy
Aloha, have you tried these on car panel lines and if so, which sizes?
Mahalo in advance for your attention
I use this scribbing pen on my car kits
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Who are those cool airbrush stand made by? Great video as always!
Just one small question -do you ever have time to build ? - No disrepect
Very nice video
USA Gundam Store carries these as well. These are not as good as the BMC Chisels, unfortunately BMC is extremely hard to find since they are discontinued. I know these aren as good because I bought one to replace a BMC that I accidently damaged.
Also be careful with dinamo tape, the one B is using is cheap and doesn't stick well.
Always count your strokes when you scribe so you can match the depth of each panel line.
Great tip my friend
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What size or sizes do you think would be best to use to make shallow car model panel lines deeper?
Gunprimer has a great scribe also
Just got one so I'll test that one too
Hey rex another great vid as always! but I was wondering how do you clean pipettes or eye droppers or whatever they're called so that way there isnt any bits of paint left inside? or do you prepare them in a way so that isnt the case? or do you just throw them away?? anyways thanks for the vids!!
I really appreciate you doing these videos...Very informative....also have you tried any other products besides pledge revive it..this is very expensive
I haven't been able to find Pledge lately, I was told it's currently unavailable. I'm am looking for an alternative
One request. A simple vid on how you decide "where" to panel line. Cause I don't want to ruin a model with bad panel work.
One word: References - look at the other people work, look at the gundam art.
hey I dont see comments available on the video that came out after this 1 ? something wrong
What sizes would you say would be usable for 1/24'-1/25 scale car models?
"This isn't a tutorial"
*Proceeds to explain basic scribing technique better that most of the tutorials I've seen.*
Love it
Very god chisels, how do you maintain the sharpness
The chisels themselves are great but I hate the handle, it doesn't "index" properly, meaning you're not ably to tell just by holding the handle in which exact direction the chisel is angled. I use them without the handle, gives me far better feel and control. They should redesign the handle to be much thinner and with flat sides. It's the same issue as with XActo knife holders.
Look into Swann-Morton scalpels used in surgery. They're cheap, have a ton of different blade shapes available and, the kicker for me, they hold the blades very securely so they don't move around like in the crappy round holders with the twist lock. Grab the little box they have for disposing the blades too, makes it easy to remove the blades and keeps them safe (or keeps _you_ safe rather :P ).
@@treborrrrr Thank! I've been using surgical scalpels for that very reason, but the ones I use are generic and only have the standard curved blade which also isn't ideal. Found a supplier near me that has nearly all Swann-Morton articles in stock.
question: why are you not holding it another way? like the cut part tip toward plastic? everyone else sims to hold it opposite to how you are holding it
Use to back part of the scriber. They are designed to scrape material out.
@@robofatcat yes but why are you the only one that is doing it and everyone else use the other side then you?
Are these mainly for Gundam or similar models? I'm a miniatures painter, and I don't see much use for me, but it may be I'm not thinking creatively enough.
Early on they were created for aircraft kits but eventually made its way to the Gunpla hobby
I use them on automotive models
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Sorry I'm late but in hospital with COVID🤒
Get well buddy, I feel odd if I thumbs up your comment 😉
Where can I get that ink well pen?
Any calligraphy pen will work. I will be showing one made for specifically for panel lining in an upcoming video also
Hi bro hope your well. Have you stoped the giveaways bud ?
More coming 👍
is there a point 4 chisel?
Yes, it was out of stock when I ordered them but they're in now. They also sell a complete set
You call jink you can give me a shout out in your next video
all time you hit your camera 😅😅😅 next hit maybe filled down