It was impressive how the Minelab was consistent across all settings. For the Vortex to not even be able to hit a silver half dollar in the ground on some settings is inexcusable. I want to root for Garrett and I hope they could fix it in an update, but as it is right now, I wouldn't touch it. Thanks for the honest testing, and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Hey Cal 👋🏼. I had a whites coinmaster Gt that had the same vdi problem about 10 years ago. When I returned it I was just refunded my money without the option to have it serviced. A penny rang higher then a silver half and 1 T ounce silver
I've watched 3 UA-cam video about vortex and all are saying same thing the machine falls short the only video I watch that vortex worked OK was beach test .I started off with garrett but glad I changed to minelab equinox game changer machine
@АлександрАлександр-п8м7у на тёрке почему то +- стабильно, а на вортексе смещение по 6 единиц. Каждое переключение ты должен иметь это ввиду, это карявая прошивка. Так не должно быть.
@RomanCoinsPro поймите,Тёрка одночастотная,Вортекс мульти.И как частоты лягут при проводке ?Частота выше задран VDI,ниже наоборот.Главное знать на какой старине копаешь и делать на это погрешность.И вообще мульти частотные приборы сделаны для неопытных копателей,для завлечения больших пользователей.Но и качество поиска у спецов с некоторыми приборами стало лучше ,но максимум на 15%.
@АлександрАлександр-п8м7у в видео тёрка мульти, на вортексе просто не откалибровано от эталона, если так же смешалось бы вди на легенде, то некоторое золото уходило бы в чернину. А гарреты даже не объяснили почему такое смещение вди. И народ должен сам кубаторить, почему так.
Dear Calabash, thanks for all good test👌Iam glad that i use a Nokta Double score. I like the Minelab Elite also. I noticed a smal VDI issue on the Nokta Double Score : 2 EURO coin give s in beach mode 36,37. In Park mode m1 /m2 a 29,30 m3 a 36 , 37 ( 15khz 36,37. In Field all 29, 30 except 15khz a 36,37. Good you please look, i think it needs to be everywhere 36,37 all modes. All other euro coins are in all modes the same VDI. I send already a request to Nokta😚 thanks already and have good Christmas days🎄Greetz from the Netherlands
Alleen goeie zoekers weten de tips en tricks 👌🤗 neemt niet weg dat de keuze is reuze en VDI bijzaak is. Dikte materiaal en grond mineralisatie en hoe een item in de grond ligt kan veel verschillen. Deze test is alleen als air test met nieuwste versie 1.2 op de Nokta Double score. Zelfs als verschillende frequenties modes zoals m1,m2,m3 mogen niet teveel verschillen van VDI getallen op het zelfde item. Vandaar dat ik erachter ben gekomen en laat weten.🤗🏄🤠
**************** Hi Calabash. Someone mentioned the Vortex's EMI mitigation on FMDF, and I wrote the following reply. It's an odd theory, but it might be interesting to check out: I haven't seen any head to head EMI comparisons between the Vortex and other SMF detectors, but it does seem like the Vortex handles EMI much better than other SMF detectors. I'm not 100% certain of that, so I'm going to ask Calabash if he'll do a head to head EMI comparison with similar sensitivity and discrimination levels, to confirm or deny that. IF the Vortex does indeed have extraordinary EMI mitigation, then the question begs, "How is it doing it"? It seems to me that unlike other detectors that I'm aware of, the Vortex may be using actual filters to try and filter out EMI. However, a detector can't know if a signal is coming from a metal target or EMI, so how would the Vortex know what to filter out? EMI is mostly random, but most EMI is also fairly weak compared to a metal target that isn't too deep. EMI can also spike very strongly. Is the Vortex trying to filter out certain weak signals and certain strong signals to mitigate EMI? If so, that might result in strange VDI results and blanking out on large coins, similar to the VDI behavior that we are seeing with the Vortex.
Good theory...OK I have seen more EMI interference post 2.05 update....Is that because of the update or is there just more EMI now as it is colder and people are running heat pumps? One note the AT MAX and AT pro act very similar in my garden when it comes to EMI...
@@calabashdiggeradventures Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure why you mentioned the single frequency detectors, because they're much more closed to EMI compared to SMF. Since EMI is constantly changing, the only true way to compare EMI mitigation between two detectors, is to compare them at the same time, with similar coil sizes, sensitivity and disc levels. Preferably disc at 0 because a lot of EMI signals hit in the ferrous range. That would be an interesting and possibly telling comparison with the Vortex and Elite / Triple.
The Vortex doesn't use an auto frequency scan to mitigate EMI, so if it's mitigating EMI very well without any EMI noise reduction being initiated, then I'm assuming that the EMI noise reduction is built in and using some sort of EMI filters. If so, those filters may be causing strange VDIs.
If it stay the same away across know matter what switch too! But it fix say Garrett 😂😂😂😂 right. Keep swinging CB Merry Christmas to you and your family 😊
Sorry I thought this was a metal detector channel my mistake. I think the vortex is an awesome detector. So please enjoy your test comparisons and comments I need to go dig myself so treasure. Merry Christmas to all
Thanks to all your afford to teach us about metal detectors and show us the pro and the con. I am looking for a back up metal detector. If the money is not a problem to me. Now I have Deus 2. I am looking at a triple score or the elite . You used both of them and test both of them. Maybe you brought them to real hut in the wild and you probably form your preference. Which you recommend for the performance to buy Thanks
Please don't put it away yet. If not for these truthful videos, UA-cam would be full of glowing reviews, and first-time buyers would be eagerly buying their new Vortex.
It was impressive how the Minelab was consistent across all settings. For the Vortex to not even be able to hit a silver half dollar in the ground on some settings is inexcusable. I want to root for Garrett and I hope they could fix it in an update, but as it is right now, I wouldn't touch it. Thanks for the honest testing, and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas to you too!
the vortex looks, sounds, performs like a toy detector. the elite punches, pounds, pounces like a blood hound
May as well have a magic 8 ball on the Vortex shaft……..
You need to give that to some little kid for Christmas
hmmm
that would be a sin he would be to upset with the way that machine acts.
Great video CD and Merry Christmas! That Vortex is a real turd💩 and those tunes would drive me crazy!!
Merry Christmas!
Hey Cal 👋🏼. I had a whites coinmaster Gt that had the same vdi problem about 10 years ago. When I returned it I was just refunded my money without the option to have it serviced. A penny rang higher then a silver half and 1 T ounce silver
That’s rough!
Think I'll take my $600 and put it towards a nox 700 or 900.
I've watched 3 UA-cam video about vortex and all are saying same thing the machine falls short the only video I watch that vortex worked OK was beach test .I started off with garrett but glad I changed to minelab equinox game changer machine
Спасибо за видео. Так не должно быть. Стабильный id должен быть на всех режимах. Может поправят прошивкой.
Нет ,такого не должно быть,стабильного vdi на всех режимах.
@АлександрАлександр-п8м7у на тёрке почему то +- стабильно, а на вортексе смещение по 6 единиц. Каждое переключение ты должен иметь это ввиду, это карявая прошивка. Так не должно быть.
@RomanCoinsPro поймите,Тёрка одночастотная,Вортекс мульти.И как частоты лягут при проводке ?Частота выше задран VDI,ниже наоборот.Главное знать на какой старине копаешь и делать на это погрешность.И вообще мульти частотные приборы сделаны для неопытных копателей,для завлечения больших пользователей.Но и качество поиска у спецов с некоторыми приборами стало лучше ,но максимум на 15%.
@АлександрАлександр-п8м7у в видео тёрка мульти, на вортексе просто не откалибровано от эталона, если так же смешалось бы вди на легенде, то некоторое золото уходило бы в чернину. А гарреты даже не объяснили почему такое смещение вди. И народ должен сам кубаторить, почему так.
@RomanCoinsPro вы не не искали ,не знаете.О чём можно говорить?
Dear Calabash, thanks for all good test👌Iam glad that i use a Nokta Double score. I like the Minelab Elite also. I noticed a smal VDI issue on the Nokta Double Score : 2 EURO coin give s in beach mode 36,37. In Park mode m1 /m2 a 29,30 m3 a 36 , 37 ( 15khz 36,37. In Field all 29, 30 except 15khz a 36,37. Good you please look, i think it needs to be everywhere 36,37 all modes. All other euro coins are in all modes the same VDI. I send already a request to Nokta😚 thanks already and have good Christmas days🎄Greetz from the Netherlands
Good catch!
Thanks👍i love this community, all together we can make the difference🏄👯 Happy Christmas for all❤
Het is gunstig dat steeds meer zoekers blind varen op de VDI nummers en potentieel goede vondsten laten liggen voor mij😊
Alleen goeie zoekers weten de tips en tricks 👌🤗 neemt niet weg dat de keuze is reuze en VDI bijzaak is. Dikte materiaal en grond mineralisatie en hoe een item in de grond ligt kan veel verschillen. Deze test is alleen als air test met nieuwste versie 1.2 op de Nokta Double score. Zelfs als verschillende frequenties modes zoals m1,m2,m3 mogen niet teveel verschillen van VDI getallen op het zelfde item. Vandaar dat ik erachter ben gekomen en laat weten.🤗🏄🤠
****************
Hi Calabash.
Someone mentioned the Vortex's EMI mitigation on FMDF, and I wrote the following reply. It's an odd theory, but it might be interesting to check out:
I haven't seen any head to head EMI comparisons between the Vortex and other SMF detectors, but it does seem like the Vortex handles EMI much better than other SMF detectors. I'm not 100% certain of that, so I'm going to ask Calabash if he'll do a head to head EMI comparison with similar sensitivity and discrimination levels, to confirm or deny that.
IF the Vortex does indeed have extraordinary EMI mitigation, then the question begs, "How is it doing it"? It seems to me that unlike other detectors that I'm aware of, the Vortex may be using actual filters to try and filter out EMI. However, a detector can't know if a signal is coming from a metal target or EMI, so how would the Vortex know what to filter out?
EMI is mostly random, but most EMI is also fairly weak compared to a metal target that isn't too deep. EMI can also spike very strongly. Is the Vortex trying to filter out certain weak signals and certain strong signals to mitigate EMI? If so, that might result in strange VDI results and blanking out on large coins, similar to the VDI behavior that we are seeing with the Vortex.
Good theory...OK I have seen more EMI interference post 2.05 update....Is that because of the update or is there just more EMI now as it is colder and people are running heat pumps? One note the AT MAX and AT pro act very similar in my garden when it comes to EMI...
@@calabashdiggeradventures Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure why you mentioned the single frequency detectors, because they're much more closed to EMI compared to SMF.
Since EMI is constantly changing, the only true way to compare EMI mitigation between two detectors, is to compare them at the same time, with similar coil sizes, sensitivity and disc levels. Preferably disc at 0 because a lot of EMI signals hit in the ferrous range. That would be an interesting and possibly telling comparison with the Vortex and Elite / Triple.
The Vortex doesn't use an auto frequency scan to mitigate EMI, so if it's mitigating EMI very well without any EMI noise reduction being initiated, then I'm assuming that the EMI noise reduction is built in and using some sort of EMI filters. If so, those filters may be causing strange VDIs.
If it stay the same away across know matter what switch too! But it fix say Garrett 😂😂😂😂 right. Keep swinging CB Merry Christmas to you and your family 😊
You doing a beach test with new update on vortex
No I am done with the Vortex ...Not worth my time at the moment.
Thanks for posting.
You're welcome
Sorry I thought this was a metal detector channel my mistake. I think the vortex is an awesome detector. So please enjoy your test comparisons and comments I need to go dig myself so treasure. Merry Christmas to all
You have the right to think what you want....But remember this just because you think something does not make it true...
Cry harder dude😂
Thanks to all your afford to teach us about metal detectors and show us the pro and the con.
I am looking for a back up metal detector.
If the money is not a problem to me. Now I have Deus 2.
I am looking at a triple score or the elite . You used both of them and test both of them.
Maybe you brought them to real hut in the wild and you probably form your preference.
Which you recommend for the performance to buy
Thanks
triple imo hits on masked targets harder..
Thanks,
Just put the vortex in the closet next to the apex and chalk it up as a loss...
Please don't put it away yet. If not for these truthful videos, UA-cam would be full of glowing reviews, and first-time buyers would be eagerly buying their new Vortex.
Уже многие производители пришли к форме датчика(катушки)круглой ,иногда овальной.Но Гаррет со своей,вообще не развивается.
Yet another Fail for the Vortex 😮 worth a 🥉😅
Very disappointing Garrett.....
Enough with the vortex it’s great you’re showing us all the issues it has but until there is a major update enough
😂😂😂
I agree
the vortex is subpar and getting way to much attention
V💩RTEX. 😢😢😢