No kidding. Qui-Gon and/or Dooku were the perfect teachers for Anakin. The Jedi’s mistake was to believe that “bringing balance to the Force” was to destroy only the Sith. No. There cannot be one without the other, just like good and evil. To end the Sith, the Jedi must end as well.
3:47 and 4:10 Qui-Gon would be the perfect teacher for Anakin, aside from Dooku. Both of them saw that the Jedi Order was slowly falling apart from within and ultimately were not following the will of the Force. Qui-Gon and Dooku alike were good Jedi, but weren’t afraid to disobey the Jedi Code when necessary. They were very Grey Jedi, but in a very good way.
This really goes to show just how instrumental Qui Gon and Dooku were in the grand scheme of things. If Qui Gon hadn't died, he would've trained Anakin and most likely would've understood him better and kept him from the dark side. Dooku wouldn't have gone to the dark side either due to Qui Gon's death being the final nail in the coffin, but without this happening, Palpatine's plans fell into shambles.
if we think about how dooku is extremely good against multiple/multiple weapons opponent, he would have had no problem facing maul, even alone. That is if we consider that his jedi swordsmanship is almost on par with it's sith one.
From what I can reasonably understand, form 2 is a duelist form of lightsaber combat. Perfect for one-on-one combat, elegant moves, and disarming ones' opponents. This form is not really suitable when facing multiple opponents. However, the Count had perfected this form so it could be.
So basically you have two grey jedis, Obi who thinks the sun shines out of QGJ's arse, and the chosen one who in the main timeline ended up being crushed under the weight of the Jedi's proscriptions. That sounds like the making of a new school of force users not beholden to the dogmas of either Jedi or Sith
Qui-gon truly is the one all be all linchpin of Annie’s fate. Alive he becomes the most powerful Jedi Master to ever live. Dead Annie falls and ends up being responsible for so much death and suffering.
Qui Gon was the Mufasa of the Star Wars universe. He meant so much to so many people and made an impact wherever he went. And like when Mufasa died and the Pridelands were in ruins under Scars reign. When Qui Gon died, the galaxy went to hell as no one could stop Palpatine. And so it would be until Luke, the Star Wars version of Simba, stepped forward and brought about the end of Palpatine's evil. *I am not acknowledging the 'sequel' just FYI*. Qui Gon's death changed his loved ones for better or for worse and nothing was the same ever again.
Huh, I thought Dooku would take more of a role in things. I imagine he would have been helpful in uncovering Palpatine, and fighting against him. But 12 years of Insight and meditation likely helped him a lot.
Coming back to the light from the Dark side is quite a feat itself, and is not easy, I think they would take that into account. And I think they would at least let him help track down Sidious and fight him. Since Dooku was still sharp.
@@john98765333 maybe. I don’t think it would be up to the Jedi since he would be a republic jail. Especially with Palpatine as chancellor he wouldn’t let him out through spite
Great video! There's a what if I've been thinking about for a while: What if Qui Gon and Darth Maul talked? Let me explain: Qui Gon was never too in line with the Jedi order itself, and we know Maul is actually pretty smart, so I think there's a good chance that Maul didn't trust Palpatine and, after sensing Anakin's connection to the force, he could have decided to talk to Qui Gon. This would happen instead of Qui Gon's death and would lead to a very different outcome. What do you think about this scenario?
@@francescocalabrese441 it's brilliant never seen it been done and if it happens would bring a new perspective I also hope he does what if anakin was trained by Jonas cbath been asking everyone and nobody has done it
I have one problem with this scenario. Dooku informs the Jedi about Sidious, yet they wait until they're exiled to begin investigating him? Wouldn't they do that immediately?
It doesn’t add up for Dooku to join the dark side after Qui-Gon was killed by Palatine’s own apprentice. You would think that would make him turn fully back to the light.
what if Anakin was a reincarnation of or had/gained the memories of darth plagueis? This was inspierd by a meme where Palpatine sits down with anakin and asks him if he had heard of "darth plagueis the wise" only for Anakin to recount the story in broad strokes. Palpatine asks how he knew it and Anakin just responds "I am darth plagueis"
actually Dooku would take Maul alone on mid diff...Dooku was the greatest duelist at his era (even sparring with Yoda in temple was equal) and master of Makashi, deadly form.
I imagine in that situation, when the Jedi are exiled palpating would have instead accused them of treason much like in the cannon and use it to execute them
9:59 I dont think Sidous would be there seen he could feel the jedi present and also could know what the jedi planning ( like in the original story so he one step ahead mate )
Hiii, I just wanted to say I love your videos and I am a subscriber of yours and wanted to say I love your theory’s. On another note I have some great what if ideas. 1.) what if padme figured out palpatin was the Sith Lord 2.) what if qui gon jinn was actually anakins father 3.) what if Anakin and obi-wan were closer 4.) what if padme went into labor early and had to get Anakin during a Jedi couincle meeting and they found out about his attachment that way 5.) what if Luke was an only child 6.) what if Anakin was brought back to the light by his mother who with the help of qui gon become a force ghost 7.) what if the clones dident end up with the chips and palpatin dident know that 8.) what if Anakin dident win the pod race 9.) what if Anakin Disney sue obiwan on mustfar(so he was knocked unconscious and thought to be dead not burnt to a crisp) 10.) what if Luke and leia kept there mother alive with the force.
@@FantasyFolklore omg i really have a great idea on what you can pull off for padme telling Anakin about palpatin being the Sith Lord she could would have to race to the temple to warn them and palpatin would sense this and try and kill and when he tries to would unleash his full power to save her.
I truly and honestly believe that if Qui Gon Jinn trained Anakin Skywalker not only he Anakin wouldn't turn to the Dark Side but also Luke's lightsaber from A New Hope it would be green
Dang Maul crippled and imprisoned, Dooku betraying him and ratting himself out and serving a twelve year prison sentence, and Anakin too much under the influence of Qui Gon and his watchful eye too in that case since those three were in those positions hence unreachable Sidious should of impregnated someone to have his own child to one day rule by his side yeah.
Greivous's planet was enslaved by an alien insect species whom the Republic supported. He fought back and drove them to their planet. The Republic put sanctions on the planet causing many to die of hunger. Later his ship was shot down by palpatine , killing his companions.. He thought the ship was shot down by the jedi. Greivous was never evil. He was fighting for his people.
Hay Fantasy Folklore I love the vids I was wondering about a what if which is what if Anakin had a brother probably called Owen the story would start when Qui Gon meets Anakin as Anakin is still the chosen one but Owen is just better at everything and will never leave the light side of the force making the Jedi's think that Owen is the chosen one but Qui Gon would take both anyway just in case I don't know who would train then Plo Koon maybe for Owen or Mace but Anakin will still be train by Obi Wan the idea is to make Anakin jealous anyway just a idea I had love the vids keep up the good work
I find it amusing that people seem to think Dooku would pwn Maul because of his master saber skills, but people seems to completely forget that Dookus form was based on sword to sword dueling, in this case Makashi would be far less effective because Dooku would be using attacks, and counters, and blocking techniques that meant for an opponent holding a sword like him, but with Maul, he is going up against a combo between a combat staff and a double headed spear with a sharp cutting neck and back. I am not saying Dooku would lose, he might still find as he was a great fighter, but dont count Maul out, he was a very strong advantage since he is not only using a weapon that Dooku has no experience fighting against, but a dangerous combo of both Juyo form and Ataru form, remember how Exar Qun was defeated by his master who was also a makashi master, but then on their second battle Exar Qun had invented the doublebladed lightsaber as his new weapon and when his former master saw the now Sith Lord Exar Qun, activating the second blade, the Makashi Jedi master had no idea of how to counter this new weapon, and he was quickly killed.
"Just because his grand plan A failed, doesn't mean he didn't have a plan, B, C, or D." THAK YOU. This is honestly something A LOT of people keep forgetting about Palpatine. Even if his original plan flopped for one reason or the other, he would just shrug and go, "Ah well. Plan B it is then." because there's no way a manipulator like him wouldn't have had countless backup plans in case his main one flopped.
Little does the Jedi realize that this is the Senate's plan all along, to get rid of the Jedi from power. So despite all the evidence, the Senate still chooses one of their own, their emperor, Emperor Palpatine. Then, and only then, the Jedi understood they had been serving a corrupt master all along.
Dooku would have bullied maul. Qui gon SHOULD have killed maul in their deul and dooku was a far superior deulist so that 2 on 1 woulda been over in a minute! Woulda been over sooner if obi wan was still fighting.
Dooku would defeat Maul on his own. He could do incredibly well versus the likes of Kenobi, Skywalker and Yoda, and Maul would not be a true match for Dooku. It's not even that close especially in the year 32 BBY. It'd be totally one-sided. A better/more interesting scenario, might have been to say, 'What if Dooku had been Palpatine's first Sith apprentice from the start and there was no Maul?'. Dooku fighting Qui-Gon Jinn would be the cruellest, ultimate test set by Palpatine, to not just kill Sifo-Dyas, his friend, but to kill his own former padawan. Dooku fighting Qui-Gon and Kenobi would be curious. Qui-Gon would be trying desperately to draw as much of Dooku's attention as possible, because he'd know how little chance padawan Kenobi would stand if Dooku focused on Kenobi too much. During the duel, which would be emotional throughout, with Qui-Gon pleading with Dooku to come back to the light, Dooku would back off at times, struggling with his own mission. The biggest part of him would not want to kill Qui-Gon; but his belief in the need to fix the galaxy and remove the corrupt and decadent Republic, which was central to his political idealism (upon which Palpatine preyed) would force Dooku to continue, no matter how painful it was for him in truth. Dooku would effortlessly parry and sidestep most of Kenobi's Form IV Ataru, and although energetic and enthusiastic, with a lot of skill and genuine talent for a Jedi of his age, Kenobi would realise he was drastically outmatched by Count Dooku. Dooku would, at one point, successfully use his masterful telekinesis, and hurl Kenobi from one of the catwalks in the Theed Palace powerplant. This would be concerning as Kenobi would only just hang on to a distance platform, largely with the Force keeping him from falling much further down (which would have been potentially fatal for even an advanced padawan like him) Struggling back onto the platform, Kenobi would look up and see Qui-Gon struggling with Dooku's equally masterful Form II Makashi. Kenobi would strive to return to Qui-Gon's side. Ironically, with Kenobi removed from immediate harm's way, this would allow Qui-Gon to fight to his true ability and he would use everything he remembered from sparring matches with Dooku to try his best to unsettle his elegant blade work. All the same, this would be nigh on impossible. Dooku, as far as is known, was never defeated by Qui-Gon in any sparring sessions. The only Jedi to have _ever_ defeated Dooku in Jedi Temple training sessions, was Yoda; Dooku's own former master. Dooku defeated everyone other than Yoda; though it is unknown if Yoda had a completely undefeated sparring record against Dooku (which I would consider _highly_ unlikely in spite of Yoda winning more, which I would say would make sense) Qui-Gon would know his master's Form II was far better-suited to the narrow, linear catwalks and platforms of the powerplant, and would be wary of getting on the wrong side of that elegant blade mastery from Dooku. He would be well-aware that Dooku was more than capable of picking him apart and finding too many flaws in his fighting style. Qui-Gon was a great Jedi, though his greatness was not necessarily as a swordsman or champion duellist. His real greatness came through his wisdom, sense of purpose, respect for the Living Force and his maverick nature which made him follow his beliefs to the end. Dooku admired and respected Qui-Gon, though rolled his eyes at his shortcomings as a duellist. Dooku cared a lot about Qui-Gon, even in the actual canon, and he lamented his death. However, if Dooku was the one whom was written into The Phantom Menace all along, in an alternate reality where Maul never existed (say, if by chance George Lucas just felt like contacting Sir Christopher Lee a bit earlier than he did in real-life, regarding casting for the prequels), then I can definitely see the sheer drama of Dooku being forced to kill Qui-Gon Jinn by Palpatine, as the final test to become Darth Tyranus. Think about it; it makes a whole lot more sense. Dooku would still be beloved of his Separatist movement and friends in the then already quietly forming Confederacy of Independent Systems. Dooku being forced to do this by Palpatine would mean so much more than random edgy dude with heavy tattoos doing it. There was nothing that connected Maul to Qui-Gon prior. He was just a weapon of the Sith and used accordingly by Palpatine and wasn't exactly lamented in his apparent demise (and what was his death from 1999-2013, at least; until the _geniuses_ at Disney decided to bring him back to get easy acclaim from mega Maul fans whom couldn't let his death up to that point go) Disney was really grasping for straws bringing him back. Anyway. Dooku fighting in Episode I would then make people care more about his character in Episode II - by which time, Kenobi and Skywalker would be fighting him. If Kenobi was going into that fight with over a decade of grief after witnessing Dooku kill Qui-Gon, then it could be incredible impactful and emotionally tragic when they fight again. Skywalker would be unbalanced and headstrong as usual, though he would sense Kenobi (normally calm) beginning to lose it a bit fighting Dooku again. Skywalker 'wouldn't get it' at first to the point he'd understand everything, but in my version Skywalker would be genuinely shocked at the level of anger building in Kenobi. It'd be something he'd _never_ seen before and he'd secretly respect Kenobi more for it in a weird way. It would humanise him more, showing Anakin that it wasn't just him with the burden of grief (over his mother, in Anakin's case) but that his own normally very sensible and calm (almost to the point of tedium) Master, would be capable of such strong emotional attachments. The death of Qui-Gon Jinn would haunt Kenobi forever. And Dooku, too. There is this whole other story to tell about _that_ version of the duel. Imagine the emotions on display if Dooku faces Kenobi and Skywalker _a decade after_ having slain Qui-Gon? Anyway, back to Episode I. The duel would show how even Qui-Gon was just not going to be able to throw Dooku off his form. Using Ataru to the best of his abilities, Qui-Gon would acrobatically try to outflank and confuse Dooku, using broad, angular flurries of the blade and leaping around as much as the narrow confines allowed. This would contribute to tiring Qui-Gon Jinn out, though none of it, for all it's heroism, would stop Dooku at all. Dooku was always just in a different league as both a force sensitive and a lightsaber duellist. He was just drastically better than most other Jedi, including his own apprentice Qui-Gon. There'd be no shame in losing to him, though having largely fallen to the dark side, Dooku would now show little to no mercy. Kenobi would manage to re-join the fight, before the matter of the separation of the two in the section protected by shields, took place. Qui-Gon would again try and distract Dooku as much as possible, fearing a sudden riposte skewering or cutting Kenobi down mid-battle. Dooku would know what Qui-Gon was doing, and genuinely respect him for it; almost subconsciously 'going easy' on Kenobi and not actively trying to bring him down (as he easily could if given half the chance) He would toy with them both before leading them deeper into the inner sections of the powerplant, and by then, Kenobi _would_ be separated from Qui-Gon again. In the upper platforms on the way into the section with the shield doors, Dooku would suddenly unleash his first barrage of Force Lightning; which would be channelled with one hand full-blast at point blank range into Kenobi's body, while he fought Qui-Gon effortlessly with the lightsaber in the other hand, on the other side of him on the catwalk.
This would alarm and distress Qui-Gon, seeing Kenobi bodily flung into the air and back across over 40 metres of the catwalk, semi-conscious. His robes would be almost charred and a grim series of tiny smoke plumes would rise from his robes, with the lightning frazzling and incapacitating him. The duel between Qui-Gon and Dooku would continue and Dooku would taunt him over his padawan and call him weak. Kenobi would quickly regain consciousness after a brief KO moment, and stagger to his feet again, inhaling deeply and falling back down on one knee, exhausted and in pain. He would then look across the long catwalk and see flashes of saber clashes in the chamber ahead, as Qui-Gon and Dooku fought with Dooku giving ground as he lured Qui-Gon into a more confined space to really begin dismantling his old padawan's Ataru. All throughout this, Dooku would be verbally admonishing Qui-Gon, lecturing him about being a disappointing padawan (almost as if to psyche himself up for the dark deed of killing Qui-Gon) In a blistering display of Form II, Dooku would leave Qui-Gon swinging erratically into mid-space and failing to make much of an impression. Dooku would belittle Qui-Gon, though again do so more like a disappointed teacher, or even parent, rather than someone truly 'ready' to do what he was about to. Kenobi would manage to reach the shield doors, and witness Qui-Gon fighting to the absolute limit of his ability, using angular movements and determined blade work to hold Dooku's relentless onslaught off. Dooku would gracefully contain Qui-Gon's best attempts with the lightsaber, and leave him looking erratic and overwrought, dodging dozens of slashes and swings. The occasional lunge and close-quarter flurry of the saber by Qui-Gon would be meticulously countered by Dooku, and leave him looking clumsy. Just as Dooku greatly outclassed Kenobi in the actual timeline of Episode II, on Geonosis. Qui-Gon's death would be at a decisive moment of the duel, whereby Qui-Gon had been skilfully and unquestionably outclassed as a lightsaber duellist, and injured with small lightsaber blade-tip cuts to the upper arms and Qui-Gon's left leg. This left him fighting with a slight limp, and struggling badly to fend Dooku off. Seeing this, Kenobi would anxiously watch on waiting for the shield doors to alternate off. Death would find Qui-Gon shortly after, as Dooku would cut off Qui-Gon's lightsaber hand at the upper arm and bring him down with a broad, slashing strike to the left leg. Qui-Gon would be then run through with Dooku's still blue lightsaber. The deed would emotionally destroy Dooku in the process, destroying a big part of what he had been, and believed in all along. Kenobi's survival would be close-run and it could have been Dooku's visible turmoil in killing Qui-Gon. It would break his heart in truth but he would see it as a necessary loss for the 'Greater Good'. Dooku would not see killing Kenobi as necessary; his orders were about killing Qui-Gon. Heartbroken at seeing Dooku run him through, Kenobi would fight like mad to try and win out. Dooku would KO Kenobi and escape. In his heart, Dooku would be distraught. Kenobi would wake up the next morning, and reflect on his old master’s demise.
@@FantasyFolklore---Your welcome. I always thought Qui-Gon would've been the best master for Anakin. And hey did you see the suggestion I left on your latest video?
Minor detail: as far as I’m aware, being a sith is not an actual crime in the eyes of the senate. Good call to focus more on the accusation of treason against palps
You know you should make a what if r2 d2 was not able to save the ship because if he failed fixing the ship it would change the history of star wars. Also if you make the video please mention me 😉 I would really love it thank you
Honestly, I think Anakin STILL wouldn't turn to the Dark Side. He was racing to free himself and Shmi. He could have won his freedom from Watto; then he would do the same for his mom. Would he have been a PROPER Force user? Probably not. I say that because the Force allowed him to have fast reflexes. He just would have never met Padmé, and we wouldn't have the OG Trilogy.
@@FantasyFolklore I am pretty sure Dooku was in his prime at the start of the war. Both at the same time would beat him, but one at a time like Yaddle was in for, Yoda wins. Dooku and Sidious both got stronger during that time and Yoda got weaker
@@chevin0 I think he was definitely past his prime at the beginning of the war. His body had aged a lot and no doubt his physical abilities as well. But yeah, 1 on 1 Yoda would win but there's no way Sidious would allow that...
The emperor had a lot better foresight than the Jedi, I don't really think they could have pulled off the events in this scenario (covert ops and surprising him in his office).. but I also don't think Palps could have been so successful with all his original plans being ruined)
I have a question how did palpatine cause inflation of republic credit? Cause to put currency 1USD today is equal to 1.2 rebulic credits and the GDP of the republie is 4.3 quinntillion republuc credits. Also when palpatine is out of office how did they deflate the credits.
Fantasy folklore I'm sure there's what if we'll get more views and likes more than what if Anakin was trained since birth because being trained by both Jedi who were the dissolution with the order rules and have no problem letting Anakin and Padme be together and teaching him everything I'm sure Anakin Skywalker will become more powerful than if he was trained since birth 😮👍
Good Video but, what about the Rule of 2? Wouldn't Sidious have taken on another apprentice after Maul? He'd have had plenty of time to find and train one before the confrontation you laid out.
If Dooku went to Naboo, Maul would have been slaughtered. Dooku was more skilled in lightsaber dueling, more experienced and much more powerful in the Force than Maul.
I so much want Dokuu to be one of the good guys instead of a lying POS that he turned into.Regal posture,Christopher Lee, a voice that makes me (50 y.o guy) sound girly in comparison..etc etc :)
I'm glad that Dooku basically manhandled Maul without that much trouble, not enough people respect his power
It wouldn't be much of a contest
It was never a contest
@Fantasy Folklore Hello, there again. I have a new theory for you
Quite right. Well said.
@@crownprincesebastianjohano7069 hello there
Qui-gon is the key to everything. Had he lived,Anakin would've never turned to the dark side.
Definitely the key. Watch my video on "What If Qui Gon Survived?" ua-cam.com/video/IZBo2zoXGnQ/v-deo.html
@@nathanchunstudenthbhs8402 I agree. Qui-gon's death was the final nail in the coffin.
100%
No kidding. Qui-Gon and/or Dooku were the perfect teachers for Anakin. The Jedi’s mistake was to believe that “bringing balance to the Force” was to destroy only the Sith. No. There cannot be one without the other, just like good and evil. To end the Sith, the Jedi must end as well.
Yess duel of the fates
3:47 and 4:10 Qui-Gon would be the perfect teacher for Anakin, aside from Dooku. Both of them saw that the Jedi Order was slowly falling apart from within and ultimately were not following the will of the Force. Qui-Gon and Dooku alike were good Jedi, but weren’t afraid to disobey the Jedi Code when necessary. They were very Grey Jedi, but in a very good way.
I agree
@@FantasyFolklore is ahsoka a grey jedi
@@nba_inspires Ashoka is not a Jedi.
@@hazakura2319 True, but she still mostly follows the Jedi teachings. She taps into the Dark Side at times, so I believe Ahsoka is a Grey Jedi.
This really goes to show just how instrumental Qui Gon and Dooku were in the grand scheme of things. If Qui Gon hadn't died, he would've trained Anakin and most likely would've understood him better and kept him from the dark side. Dooku wouldn't have gone to the dark side either due to Qui Gon's death being the final nail in the coffin, but without this happening, Palpatine's plans fell into shambles.
Dooku stood on business in this story like he always does in the main continuity ✅.
if we think about how dooku is extremely good against multiple/multiple weapons opponent, he would have had no problem facing maul, even alone. That is if we consider that his jedi swordsmanship is almost on par with it's sith one.
Dooku's form 2 boil downs to the philosophy of "I'm going to tell you the flaws of your style over and over again". And form 7 has a LOT of flaws.
Actually, quite the opposite. Well, he is able to, but his form two is made for one blade on one blade
@@wayward5219 but he was fighting tacticly against obi wan and anikin together
From what I can reasonably understand, form 2 is a duelist form of lightsaber combat. Perfect for one-on-one combat, elegant moves, and disarming ones' opponents. This form is not really suitable when facing multiple opponents. However, the Count had perfected this form so it could be.
Let's be honest. This Guy makes better "What If's" than Star Wars theory.
You're too kind
One of my most favorite quotes from Qui Gon Jinn is “The ability to speak does not make you intelligent”.
So basically you have two grey jedis, Obi who thinks the sun shines out of QGJ's arse, and the chosen one who in the main timeline ended up being crushed under the weight of the Jedi's proscriptions.
That sounds like the making of a new school of force users not beholden to the dogmas of either Jedi or Sith
No, this should be good. This is a good good storyline can’t wait, and I haven’t even heard it yet, but this should’ve been done!!!
What did you think!
AMAZING!!
Qui-gon truly is the one all be all linchpin of Annie’s fate. Alive he becomes the most powerful Jedi Master to ever live. Dead Annie falls and ends up being responsible for so much death and suffering.
Qui Gon was the Mufasa of the Star Wars universe. He meant so much to so many people and made an impact wherever he went. And like when Mufasa died and the Pridelands were in ruins under Scars reign. When Qui Gon died, the galaxy went to hell as no one could stop Palpatine. And so it would be until Luke, the Star Wars version of Simba, stepped forward and brought about the end of Palpatine's evil. *I am not acknowledging the 'sequel' just FYI*.
Qui Gon's death changed his loved ones for better or for worse and nothing was the same ever again.
Palpatine fighting yoda and an anakin who has no attachment to or need for him 😂, poor guy
Huh, I thought Dooku would take more of a role in things. I imagine he would have been helpful in uncovering Palpatine, and fighting against him. But 12 years of Insight and meditation likely helped him a lot.
I think there's no doubt he'd be arrested and jailed. If he wasn't then yes, he would've played a key role
Coming back to the light from the Dark side is quite a feat itself, and is not easy, I think they would take that into account. And I think they would at least let him help track down Sidious and fight him. Since Dooku was still sharp.
@@john98765333 maybe. I don’t think it would be up to the Jedi since he would be a republic jail. Especially with Palpatine as chancellor he wouldn’t let him out through spite
@@FantasyFolklore I wonder. Wouldn't Sidious have taken advantage of that to have a... Mysterious accident, occur to Dooku in prison?
@@FantasyFolklore he would be an asset, there is no reason to have an asset locked away
This channel is criminally underrated! Great video, cheers
Thanks Matt!
Fantasy Folklore: Ready for the next enemy that will threaten galactic peace.
Me: You mean "Darth Krayt" founder the Rule of One and the last Sith.
He would certainly be one...
Qui Gon will always be my favorite
The goat of Star Wars
Great video! There's a what if I've been thinking about for a while: What if Qui Gon and Darth Maul talked? Let me explain: Qui Gon was never too in line with the Jedi order itself, and we know Maul is actually pretty smart, so I think there's a good chance that Maul didn't trust Palpatine and, after sensing Anakin's connection to the force, he could have decided to talk to Qui Gon. This would happen instead of Qui Gon's death and would lead to a very different outcome. What do you think about this scenario?
Would be good
@@grandmasterbob1040 I'm glad you like it!
@@francescocalabrese441 it's brilliant never seen it been done and if it happens would bring a new perspective I also hope he does what if anakin was trained by Jonas cbath been asking everyone and nobody has done it
I love the idea ❤
@@jrtmariofan6415 I'm glad you like it!
This is creative and highly entertaining. I appreciate the approach you've taken.
Thanks! A lot of work goes into these video's so I appreciate your kind words !!
@@FantasyFolklore You're welcome. I look forward to viewing when I get notifications.
So it's all bloody dooku's fault 🤣🤣
Lmaoo Dooku played such an important role
Dooku wouldve solo'ed Maul.
This is a really well made and entertaining fan-fic !
I have one problem with this scenario. Dooku informs the Jedi about Sidious, yet they wait until they're exiled to begin investigating him? Wouldn't they do that immediately?
The Dookster would have beaten Maul by himself at this point. Qui-Gon would be overkill.
Let's not forget Dooku is a master swordsmith
Also great story dude I really enjoyed it. I think it was really fun to watch. We all dream of anakin being a good guy instead right?
Thank you for always making these AMAZING videos my friend 🙂🙌!
No problem thanks for the support!
5:26 i was expecting something else but money? Bruhhhh😂
It doesn’t add up for Dooku to join the dark side after Qui-Gon was killed by Palatine’s own apprentice. You would think that would make him turn fully back to the light.
what if Anakin was a reincarnation of or had/gained the memories of darth plagueis?
This was inspierd by a meme where Palpatine sits down with anakin and asks him if he had heard of "darth plagueis the wise" only for Anakin to recount the story in broad strokes. Palpatine asks how he knew it and Anakin just responds "I am darth plagueis"
This is amazing
What if Darth sidous never killed Darth Plagueis
It will be done my lord
I really like this story line, imagine if this was how the take went instead.
actually Dooku would take Maul alone on mid diff...Dooku was the greatest duelist at his era (even sparring with Yoda in temple was equal) and master of Makashi, deadly form.
I guess jumping out of speeders in EPII paid off for Anakin after all.
This is probably going to be
1 of my favourites
What did you think!
@@FantasyFolklore it is
@@Gusst412 thanks man!
Thank you for making these videos
I imagine in that situation, when the Jedi are exiled palpating would have instead accused them of treason much like in the cannon and use it to execute them
Alos pardon my spelling
What if Dooku was Palpatine's first apprentice and Maul was his second (in other words, what if Obi-Wan and Qui-Gonn fought Dooku on Naboo)
Sigh, I really like Dooku was honest with the Jedi.
9:59 I dont think Sidous would be there seen he could feel the jedi present and also could know what the jedi planning ( like in the original story so he one step ahead mate )
There would be no way that Palptine could know their plans though
Hiii, I just wanted to say I love your videos and I am a subscriber of yours and wanted to say I love your theory’s. On another note I have some great what if ideas.
1.) what if padme figured out palpatin was the Sith Lord
2.) what if qui gon jinn was actually anakins father
3.) what if Anakin and obi-wan were closer
4.) what if padme went into labor early and had to get Anakin during a Jedi couincle meeting and they found out about his attachment that way
5.) what if Luke was an only child
6.) what if Anakin was brought back to the light by his mother who with the help of qui gon become a force ghost
7.) what if the clones dident end up with the chips and palpatin dident know that
8.) what if Anakin dident win the pod race
9.) what if Anakin Disney sue obiwan on mustfar(so he was knocked unconscious and thought to be dead not burnt to a crisp)
10.) what if Luke and leia kept there mother alive with the force.
Thanks mate.
I've done a few of those but I like your ideas!
@@FantasyFolklore omg i really have a great idea on what you can pull off for padme telling Anakin about palpatin being the Sith Lord she could would have to race to the temple to warn them and palpatin would sense this and try and kill and when he tries to would unleash his full power to save her.
I truly and honestly believe that if Qui Gon Jinn trained Anakin Skywalker not only he Anakin wouldn't turn to the Dark Side but also Luke's lightsaber from A New Hope it would be green
Except Anakin wants a father’s love and quigon wold be too busy training him as a Jedi to actually look after him.
They need a what if series but Star Wars themed
Dang Maul crippled and imprisoned, Dooku betraying him and ratting himself out and serving a twelve year prison sentence, and Anakin too much under the influence of Qui Gon and his watchful eye too in that case since those three were in those positions hence unreachable Sidious should of impregnated someone to have his own child to one day rule by his side yeah.
Nice. I wish it played out like this. It’s a much happier ending.
You earned a Subscriber You are great
0:44 how quigon is a jedi master he hasn't completed obiwan's training he should've been a jedi knight
Obi Wan wasn’t his first in legends, it was a guy named Feemor
And what about Canon?
@ it hasn’t been revealed yet
@@necronticgaming6186 funnily enough in legends though, Obi Wan is actually his third padawan
What if General Grievous was not evil, but still fought for the C.I.S?
Greivous's planet was enslaved by an alien insect species whom the Republic supported. He fought back and drove them to their planet. The Republic put sanctions on the planet causing many to die of hunger. Later his ship was shot down by palpatine , killing his companions.. He thought the ship was shot down by the jedi. Greivous was never evil. He was fighting for his people.
Here’s a new one. What if general grievous was told the truth and then sided with the Jedi?
They should make a timeline storyline where they implement this storyline that way we could erase the new trilogy
Hay Fantasy Folklore I love the vids I was wondering about a what if which is what if Anakin had a brother probably called Owen the story would start when Qui Gon meets Anakin as Anakin is still the chosen one but Owen is just better at everything and will never leave the light side of the force making the Jedi's think that Owen is the chosen one but Qui Gon would take both anyway just in case I don't know who would train then Plo Koon maybe for Owen or Mace but Anakin will still be train by Obi Wan the idea is to make Anakin jealous anyway just a idea I had love the vids keep up the good work
What if Padme had a miscarriage in rots? I think it would be an interesting video considering Palpatine wouldn’t have a plan to manipulate anakin
I've done this! ua-cam.com/video/wkDS7am7qpE/v-deo.html
@@FantasyFolkloreoh ok thanks for letting me know! :)
Somehow Palpatine returned - AH BROTHER
Thank you I was thinking that starwarstheory would do it I was thinking of this theroy
Maul would’ve put up a better fight than that
I like this timeline
They should seriously just make "what if" movies
I find it amusing that people seem to think Dooku would pwn Maul because of his master saber skills, but people seems to completely forget that Dookus form was based on sword to sword dueling, in this case Makashi would be far less effective because Dooku would be using attacks, and counters, and blocking techniques that meant for an opponent holding a sword like him, but with Maul, he is going up against a combo between a combat staff and a double headed spear with a sharp cutting neck and back. I am not saying Dooku would lose, he might still find as he was a great fighter, but dont count Maul out, he was a very strong advantage since he is not only using a weapon that Dooku has no experience fighting against, but a dangerous combo of both Juyo form and Ataru form, remember how Exar Qun was defeated by his master who was also a makashi master, but then on their second battle Exar Qun had invented the doublebladed lightsaber as his new weapon and when his former master saw the now Sith Lord Exar Qun, activating the second blade, the Makashi Jedi master had no idea of how to counter this new weapon, and he was quickly killed.
"Just because his grand plan A failed, doesn't mean he didn't have a plan, B, C, or D."
THAK YOU. This is honestly something A LOT of people keep forgetting about Palpatine. Even if his original plan flopped for one reason or the other, he would just shrug and go, "Ah well. Plan B it is then." because there's no way a manipulator like him wouldn't have had countless backup plans in case his main one flopped.
Well for one thing, we'd still have Yaddle.
What is the name of the track that starts at 12:03 ?
Great story, as always.
Cheers Matthew
This is a good one
This is going to be great
What did you think!
Little does the Jedi realize that this is the Senate's plan all along, to get rid of the Jedi from power. So despite all the evidence, the Senate still chooses one of their own, their emperor, Emperor Palpatine. Then, and only then, the Jedi understood they had been serving a corrupt master all along.
ngl i have seen what if quigon and dooku trained anakin but i allways wondered what if Cin Drallig trained anakin?
Only one person can change everything and that what Dooku could have done.
He is the key....to.....*everything*
How do you make these videos fantasy folklore there so so so so so amazing and incredibly good
I wonder what would have happened if anakin had been able to question qui Gon ghost about padme
What if padme was still alive
Dooku would have bullied maul. Qui gon SHOULD have killed maul in their deul and dooku was a far superior deulist so that 2 on 1 woulda been over in a minute!
Woulda been over sooner if obi wan was still fighting.
What's the music at 00:00 - 00:25?
Dooku would defeat Maul on his own. He could do incredibly well versus the likes of Kenobi, Skywalker and Yoda, and Maul would not be a true match for Dooku. It's not even that close especially in the year 32 BBY. It'd be totally one-sided. A better/more interesting scenario, might have been to say, 'What if Dooku had been Palpatine's first Sith apprentice from the start and there was no Maul?'.
Dooku fighting Qui-Gon Jinn would be the cruellest, ultimate test set by Palpatine, to not just kill Sifo-Dyas, his friend, but to kill his own former padawan. Dooku fighting Qui-Gon and Kenobi would be curious. Qui-Gon would be trying desperately to draw as much of Dooku's attention as possible, because he'd know how little chance padawan Kenobi would stand if Dooku focused on Kenobi too much.
During the duel, which would be emotional throughout, with Qui-Gon pleading with Dooku to come back to the light, Dooku would back off at times, struggling with his own mission. The biggest part of him would not want to kill Qui-Gon; but his belief in the need to fix the galaxy and remove the corrupt and decadent Republic, which was central to his political idealism (upon which Palpatine preyed) would force Dooku to continue, no matter how painful it was for him in truth. Dooku would effortlessly parry and sidestep most of Kenobi's Form IV Ataru, and although energetic and enthusiastic, with a lot of skill and genuine talent for a Jedi of his age, Kenobi would realise he was drastically outmatched by Count Dooku.
Dooku would, at one point, successfully use his masterful telekinesis, and hurl Kenobi from one of the catwalks in the Theed Palace powerplant. This would be concerning as Kenobi would only just hang on to a distance platform, largely with the Force keeping him from falling much further down (which would have been potentially fatal for even an advanced padawan like him) Struggling back onto the platform, Kenobi would look up and see Qui-Gon struggling with Dooku's equally masterful Form II Makashi. Kenobi would strive to return to Qui-Gon's side.
Ironically, with Kenobi removed from immediate harm's way, this would allow Qui-Gon to fight to his true ability and he would use everything he remembered from sparring matches with Dooku to try his best to unsettle his elegant blade work. All the same, this would be nigh on impossible. Dooku, as far as is known, was never defeated by Qui-Gon in any sparring sessions. The only Jedi to have _ever_ defeated Dooku in Jedi Temple training sessions, was Yoda; Dooku's own former master. Dooku defeated everyone other than Yoda; though it is unknown if Yoda had a completely undefeated sparring record against Dooku (which I would consider _highly_ unlikely in spite of Yoda winning more, which I would say would make sense)
Qui-Gon would know his master's Form II was far better-suited to the narrow, linear catwalks and platforms of the powerplant, and would be wary of getting on the wrong side of that elegant blade mastery from Dooku. He would be well-aware that Dooku was more than capable of picking him apart and finding too many flaws in his fighting style. Qui-Gon was a great Jedi, though his greatness was not necessarily as a swordsman or champion duellist.
His real greatness came through his wisdom, sense of purpose, respect for the Living Force and his maverick nature which made him follow his beliefs to the end. Dooku admired and respected Qui-Gon, though rolled his eyes at his shortcomings as a duellist. Dooku cared a lot about Qui-Gon, even in the actual canon, and he lamented his death. However, if Dooku was the one whom was written into The Phantom Menace all along, in an alternate reality where Maul never existed (say, if by chance George Lucas just felt like contacting Sir Christopher Lee a bit earlier than he did in real-life, regarding casting for the prequels), then I can definitely see the sheer drama of Dooku being forced to kill Qui-Gon Jinn by Palpatine, as the final test to become Darth Tyranus.
Think about it; it makes a whole lot more sense. Dooku would still be beloved of his Separatist movement and friends in the then already quietly forming Confederacy of Independent Systems. Dooku being forced to do this by Palpatine would mean so much more than random edgy dude with heavy tattoos doing it. There was nothing that connected Maul to Qui-Gon prior. He was just a weapon of the Sith and used accordingly by Palpatine and wasn't exactly lamented in his apparent demise (and what was his death from 1999-2013, at least; until the _geniuses_ at Disney decided to bring him back to get easy acclaim from mega Maul fans whom couldn't let his death up to that point go) Disney was really grasping for straws bringing him back. Anyway.
Dooku fighting in Episode I would then make people care more about his character in Episode II - by which time, Kenobi and Skywalker would be fighting him. If Kenobi was going into that fight with over a decade of grief after witnessing Dooku kill Qui-Gon, then it could be incredible impactful and emotionally tragic when they fight again. Skywalker would be unbalanced and headstrong as usual, though he would sense Kenobi (normally calm) beginning to lose it a bit fighting Dooku again.
Skywalker 'wouldn't get it' at first to the point he'd understand everything, but in my version Skywalker would be genuinely shocked at the level of anger building in Kenobi. It'd be something he'd _never_ seen before and he'd secretly respect Kenobi more for it in a weird way. It would humanise him more, showing Anakin that it wasn't just him with the burden of grief (over his mother, in Anakin's case) but that his own normally very sensible and calm (almost to the point of tedium) Master, would be capable of such strong emotional attachments. The death of Qui-Gon Jinn would haunt Kenobi forever. And Dooku, too. There is this whole other story to tell about _that_ version of the duel. Imagine the emotions on display if Dooku faces Kenobi and Skywalker _a decade after_ having slain Qui-Gon?
Anyway, back to Episode I. The duel would show how even Qui-Gon was just not going to be able to throw Dooku off his form. Using Ataru to the best of his abilities, Qui-Gon would acrobatically try to outflank and confuse Dooku, using broad, angular flurries of the blade and leaping around as much as the narrow confines allowed. This would contribute to tiring Qui-Gon Jinn out, though none of it, for all it's heroism, would stop Dooku at all. Dooku was always just in a different league as both a force sensitive and a lightsaber duellist. He was just drastically better than most other Jedi, including his own apprentice Qui-Gon. There'd be no shame in losing to him, though having largely fallen to the dark side, Dooku would now show little to no mercy.
Kenobi would manage to re-join the fight, before the matter of the separation of the two in the section protected by shields, took place. Qui-Gon would again try and distract Dooku as much as possible, fearing a sudden riposte skewering or cutting Kenobi down mid-battle. Dooku would know what Qui-Gon was doing, and genuinely respect him for it; almost subconsciously 'going easy' on Kenobi and not actively trying to bring him down (as he easily could if given half the chance)
He would toy with them both before leading them deeper into the inner sections of the powerplant, and by then, Kenobi _would_ be separated from Qui-Gon again. In the upper platforms on the way into the section with the shield doors, Dooku would suddenly unleash his first barrage of Force Lightning; which would be channelled with one hand full-blast at point blank range into Kenobi's body, while he fought Qui-Gon effortlessly with the lightsaber in the other hand, on the other side of him on the catwalk.
This would alarm and distress Qui-Gon, seeing Kenobi bodily flung into the air and back across over 40 metres of the catwalk, semi-conscious. His robes would be almost charred and a grim series of tiny smoke plumes would rise from his robes, with the lightning frazzling and incapacitating him. The duel between Qui-Gon and Dooku would continue and Dooku would taunt him over his padawan and call him weak. Kenobi would quickly regain consciousness after a brief KO moment, and stagger to his feet again, inhaling deeply and falling back down on one knee, exhausted and in pain.
He would then look across the long catwalk and see flashes of saber clashes in the chamber ahead, as Qui-Gon and Dooku fought with Dooku giving ground as he lured Qui-Gon into a more confined space to really begin dismantling his old padawan's Ataru. All throughout this, Dooku would be verbally admonishing Qui-Gon, lecturing him about being a disappointing padawan (almost as if to psyche himself up for the dark deed of killing Qui-Gon) In a blistering display of Form II, Dooku would leave Qui-Gon swinging erratically into mid-space and failing to make much of an impression. Dooku would belittle Qui-Gon, though again do so more like a disappointed teacher, or even parent, rather than someone truly 'ready' to do what he was about to.
Kenobi would manage to reach the shield doors, and witness Qui-Gon fighting to the absolute limit of his ability, using angular movements and determined blade work to hold Dooku's relentless onslaught off. Dooku would gracefully contain Qui-Gon's best attempts with the lightsaber, and leave him looking erratic and overwrought, dodging dozens of slashes and swings. The occasional lunge and close-quarter flurry of the saber by Qui-Gon would be meticulously countered by Dooku, and leave him looking clumsy. Just as Dooku greatly outclassed Kenobi in the actual timeline of Episode II, on Geonosis.
Qui-Gon's death would be at a decisive moment of the duel, whereby Qui-Gon had been skilfully and unquestionably outclassed as a lightsaber duellist, and injured with small lightsaber blade-tip cuts to the upper arms and Qui-Gon's left leg. This left him fighting with a slight limp, and struggling badly to fend Dooku off. Seeing this, Kenobi would anxiously watch on waiting for the shield doors to alternate off. Death would find Qui-Gon shortly after, as Dooku would cut off Qui-Gon's lightsaber hand at the upper arm and bring him down with a broad, slashing strike to the left leg. Qui-Gon would be then run through with Dooku's still blue lightsaber. The deed would emotionally destroy Dooku in the process, destroying a big part of what he had been, and believed in all along.
Kenobi's survival would be close-run and it could have been Dooku's visible turmoil in killing Qui-Gon. It would break his heart in truth but he would see it as a necessary loss for the 'Greater Good'. Dooku would not see killing Kenobi as necessary; his orders were about killing Qui-Gon.
Heartbroken at seeing Dooku run him through, Kenobi would fight like mad to try and win out. Dooku would KO Kenobi and escape. In his heart, Dooku would be distraught. Kenobi would wake up the next morning, and reflect on his old master’s demise.
Excited!
What did you think!
@@FantasyFolklore Loved it per usual. Just started working on my own channel/fan fictions and I take inspiration from you!
@@thestarwarsgalaxy Great to hear, can't wait to listen!
I would if someone made an animation telling this story. It be amazing to watch
This "What if" story had a delightful outcome
Thanks !!
@@FantasyFolklore---Your welcome. I always thought Qui-Gon would've been the best master for Anakin. And hey did you see the suggestion I left on your latest video?
@@brokenbridge6316 Yup, I've done a bunch of "Trained Anakin" video and will continue to do so. Might do Yaddle eventually
@@FantasyFolklore---Sounds nice.
I would have liked to have seen prime Dooku vs RoTS Mace in a lightsaber duel.
Minor detail: as far as I’m aware, being a sith is not an actual crime in the eyes of the senate.
Good call to focus more on the accusation of treason against palps
You know you should make a what if r2 d2 was not able to save the ship because if he failed fixing the ship it would change the history of star wars. Also if you make the video please mention me 😉 I would really love it thank you
Honestly, I think Anakin STILL wouldn't turn to the Dark Side. He was racing to free himself and Shmi. He could have won his freedom from Watto; then he would do the same for his mom. Would he have been a PROPER Force user? Probably not. I say that because the Force allowed him to have fast reflexes. He just would have never met Padmé, and we wouldn't have the OG Trilogy.
what if Qui-Gon was the one who participated in the Pod Race on Tatooine instead of Anakin?
Hmm interesting. You think he'd lose?
@@FantasyFolklore Or he can used the force to cheatXD
what if yoda confronted dooku instead of yaddle
The Sith would have ended that day
Would Yoda be able to defeat Dooku + Sidious? Dooku was in his prime then. I'm skeptical....
@@FantasyFolklore I am pretty sure Dooku was in his prime at the start of the war. Both at the same time would beat him, but one at a time like Yaddle was in for, Yoda wins. Dooku and Sidious both got stronger during that time and Yoda got weaker
@@chevin0 I think he was definitely past his prime at the beginning of the war. His body had aged a lot and no doubt his physical abilities as well. But yeah, 1 on 1 Yoda would win but there's no way Sidious would allow that...
@@FantasyFolklore he could take out dooku and maybe sidious at that point
The emperor had a lot better foresight than the Jedi, I don't really think they could have pulled off the events in this scenario (covert ops and surprising him in his office).. but I also don't think Palps could have been so successful with all his original plans being ruined)
I thought keeping knowledge of the sith a secret from the republic pushed Dooku away?
So Dooku just goes to prison.... After his change of heart he would be more useful than ever against the Siths
I want this version on the big screen
What if anakin lost the race on tatooine
I've done it, although it's old. ua-cam.com/video/2v0SmWFhO18/v-deo.html
What about Maul? Is he still in the Jedi’s jail cell
Yup
What’s the outro music? Ik Star Wars Theory uses it it’s so nostalgic and Star Wars like.
Great idea mate, we'll done, I really enjoyed that. 🤘
Thanks Robert, glad you enjoyed 😀
pdf and sdf forces existed like the fleet of kuat and the milita on naboo theres just no federal military planets and sectors do though
I like this video. However, Dooku did know Sidious’ identity when sidious revealed his plan and sith identity
I'm not convinced
The clones werent created until a year after episode 1
In TOTK, Dooku talks about the clones days after TPM
I have a question how did palpatine cause inflation of republic credit?
Cause to put currency 1USD today is equal to 1.2 rebulic credits and the GDP of the republie is 4.3 quinntillion republuc credits.
Also when palpatine is out of office how did they deflate the credits.
remember the entire series happened because obi wan is a slow runner
I've been saying this!
@@FantasyFolklore damn plot armor
If he'd just used force speed like he did at the start of phantom menace, he'd have easily caught up with qui gon.
Fantasy folklore I'm sure there's what if we'll get more views and likes more than what if Anakin was trained since birth because being trained by both Jedi who were the dissolution with the order rules and have no problem letting Anakin and Padme be together and teaching him everything I'm sure Anakin Skywalker will become more powerful than if he was trained since birth 😮👍
I've got a few good ones coming out soon that I hope do well!
hey but tell me will one of those make anakin the most powerful jedi ever more than if he was trained from birth
@@gerardocovarrubias3058 You will have to wait and see 😈
@@FantasyFolklore but tell us on this one will he fall in love with padme like we all know
Good Video but, what about the Rule of 2? Wouldn't Sidious have taken on another apprentice after Maul? He'd have had plenty of time to find and train one before the confrontation you laid out.
What if Qui gon joined dooku in Attack of the clones
This should be part two
Qui gon was dead in AOTC, Dooku asked Obi Wan to join him in AOTC.
@@scotthayden0525my point is if Qui gon was alive, what if he did join dooku
You forgot, Sith rule of 2
If Dooku went to Naboo, Maul would have been slaughtered. Dooku was more skilled in lightsaber dueling, more experienced and much more powerful in the Force than Maul.
High diff for Dooku
I loved this video!!!!
Thanks George!
I so much want Dokuu to be one of the good guys instead of a lying POS that he turned into.Regal posture,Christopher Lee, a voice that makes me (50 y.o guy) sound girly in comparison..etc etc :)
Just like Marvel had a what if series, Star Wars needs to do the same thing.
What if Anakin trained Cal Kestis
Soooooon
What if Palpatine survived the destruction of the death star 2.
Let's ... not