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Mr. Almeida I owe you an apology. In one of your videos I commented your checklist course was expensive, but then you said something that sticked with me, i invest more in equipment that is not making me faster. So I decided to try it out and bought your course and wow I was so mistaken. The best money I have ever spent on sim racing. I'm only half way through the course and I went from 1.39s at laguna seca with the mx5 cup to 1.36s and I know I can already do better with the lessons I just saw. It is incredible how your explanations apply to actually driving faster. I will buy any course you develop from now on, or else I will feel fomo. Hats off mate.
Haha, dammit, half way through this video I was about to comment 'should show him onboard of Senna'. Then I saw your comment about him showing clips of Senna, I haven't reached that part in the video yet.
You are making me wanna get into the sim racing world... But unfortunetely its too expensive for me bc im in a difficult financial situation but your videos make me feel like Im there to experience these kind of stuff. keep it up
You can get a used g920 and used xbox one for around 100 bucks if you're prepared to be patient cruising marketplace, gumtree, etc. I get if you don't have 100 bucks that can still be out of reach but just wanted to highlight that there are cheaper ways to get into this. I was lucky to already have an office pc so to get started i bought an rx 580 gpu for 50 bucks and a g920 for 60 bucks. I rocked that for my first 6 months and had great fun and got to learn some of the basics.
I’m sorry to hear that buddy! It can be relatively cheap depending on how you do it. My first rig was around $250 for everything. Used Logitech g920, used Xbox, old monitor I got for free, a junkyard car seat and homemade wood rig out of free scrap wood. If you can’t afford to save $250 over the course of a year you may want to re-think what car and/or house you can really afford.
@@alecmillea4539you don’t know their financial situation. They could be getting hit with a lot of child support, on disability, treating a family member.
The Senna bit made me think you should do something similar to Driver61 where you analyses a great driver technique but in relation with your teaching and what student are doing right or wrong.
I realized after watching this that this was something I was struggling with and didn't realize it. I've picked up a ton of time be adopting this skill. Thanks so much Suellio for sharing the knowledge.
I kinda figured this out myself racing mazdas in iracing and spinning out often when downshifting going into a turn. Nice to see confirmation and learn what the best downshift timing is!
Without having someone experience these things first hand, there wouldn't be any racing books. Racing is always being advanced due to changes in technology, and FWD being used in race cars today would have basically been unheard of in the past. It's so interesting to see what type of electronics can make up for certain compromises in the mechanics.
Just got in to sim racing and I've been watching a lot of content to help me learn where to improve. I just found ur channel, and I'm blown away with ur content.
I watched you coach the pro driver in the other video, I’m already gaining seconds every lap to where I have to change the breaking points in the next corner…. Gamechanger!
This is a powerful technique! I tried this at Rudskogen in the SR10 and in my first session took a half second off of my best lap! Staying on top of the over-steer is a little bit challenging but so worth it...and a lot of fun!
Wow, this video is insanely good! I was so concentrated watching and listening to your so well presented and logical explanations. Thank you so so much! I learned a big lesson about car rotation. I was also missing the realisation of those 33%. Thank you!
Awesome coaching i was using the Ferrari too and when i felt this slides i was afraid, so i stoped pushing too much, i was more used with the slides with cars like the mazda like you said, with this ferrari that with the fixed setup is mainly understeery, when you oversteer it is like suddenly and you sometimes not prepared and lost control. When you drive the mazda and other cars that oversteer on entry a lot you are used to neutral steer, sliding, so it is easy to control a oversteer. Now i will not be afraid of the oversteers on the Ferrari anymore and try to reach then without losing the car, instead of avoiding this oversteer.
Holy. I just realized when I'm learning a track and trying corners in different gears why the car feels like it's understeering when I'm in too high a gear. 🤯
After i bought your book I've got 4 wins in IRacing and jumped from 450 to 1400 IR in few days! So today I bought your course, can't wait to improve more and more! Edit: after completing first 6 lessons, this course is amazing, I'm happy that I bought book firstly because I already know what your are talking about and I can understand it better - book was like puzzle pieces and now when I watch the course all of the elements are putting together into clear picture.
The Senna Suzuka video always struck me for how at the absolute ragged edge he was entering the turns. I always thought he was using brake and steering to induce such abrupt direction change, but you are right he slams the last gear and immediately flicks it into the corner.
Not only that, if you notice, the engine RPM peaks at a higher RPM during his downshifts than the maximum RPM he achieves during his upshifts. For example he might be changing up a gear at 15k, but on the downshifts he gets 15.5k.
with your book I purchased plus this video I understand more and more. really appreciate your work man if I have extra money I will definitely take a coaching session with you man.
Just a little feedback to the production: The music doesn’t really add anything. The negative of the music is that it makes it harder to hear the engine sound that is rather low in the mix. Just dump the music so we can focus on engine sound and speak.
@@tcs007it's personal preference as well as situational though. Sometimes you want to brake later into a turn so you might want more rotation from the gear change during a turn, but basically the way I see it is try to be in the gear that you want to exit the turn with, before you go into the turn. Using a higher gear isn't bad because it puts less resistance on the drive wheels( in this case rear wheels) and you can maintain your entry speed better. it's not always cut and dry. Tips like this are typically for achieving the best possible lap time in a hot lap because driving around other drivers adds a lot more variables. Defending position and passing will make you want to change your own behaviors compared to being wide open.
Interesting about the downshifting. I'm really slow and felt one of the reasons was I was downshifting too soon and going into too low a gear. Felt I was getting too much engine braking. Was trying to get out of that habit. Watched other quicker guys and sometimes they seemed to be in a higher gear and maybe coasting a bit more. But will go back to what I was doing and try braking later. Great video.
One could apply the same strategy if the front or rear has too little traction/ too much wear/ too much heat. If the fronts are over heating/ wearing out, do the aggressive early downshifts more, if the rears are wearing out/heating too much do the downshifts later. Also if there is an imbalance. Eg if the front left is wearing out/ heating too much, do the downshifts even more aggressively on left hand turns, and if the right front is wearing out/ heating too much, do the aggressive downshifts more on right hand turns. The opposite is true for front wheel drive cars.
Thank you, Lewis, great tip! One small clarification to make sure I understand this correctly - if front left is wearing out, it means probably that right hand turns are the cause of it? Because when you turn to the right the most weight is on the left side of the car. And vise versa
@@viktorpavlovych yes. More force and wear is applied to the outside tire. If you pay close attention on tracks that have more turns in one direction, especially longer turns, those will put more wear on the outside tire. It gets a bit tricky if say a track has more left turns, but a couple of long right turns. One could do the same w/ the rear tires. Although I've only noticed on corner exits, using more aggressive throttle. So if your left rear is wearing out faster or you suspect it will, accelerate less aggressively out of right hand turns. This will make you a bit slower out of that turn, but you have to balance that w/ your tire wear. You gain/ loose more time in fast turns (1 mph more/less covers slightly more distance at high speeds). So it can get pretty complicated & debatable the benefit if, say there are more right turns (you would be loosing time in more turns, hurting you lap time more) but left tires are wearing out, adding to that, considering how much time you might be loosing in a long fast, eg right hand turn. I'd don't pretend to know how to balance all of those factors together.
@@viktorpavlovych correction, I made a slight error. Saving/ loosing TIME (eg +/- 0.1 sec) makes a bigger difference at high speeds. Not +/- X mph. That ∆X mph would cover the same distance in both slow and fast speeds, as long as that ∆X mph is the same in both. I learned this from reading a Skipp Barber book. I agree w/ the math of their statement, but if I make a slight mistake in a high speed turn, that can quickly turn into a very expensive & potentially deadly (IRL) penalty. So I feel more comfortable pushing the limits in slow to med speed corners where I have a bigger chance of saving it if I make a mistake.
Sometimes, in the first chicane after Raidillon for example, I’ll feel the car would have continued to rotate right (rears going left, fronts going right), without any steering input from me had I not changed the direction of the car to follow on to the next corner. When it happens, I know that if I don’t steer left, it’ll spin, but if I do, I’ll still make the corner. Is that the kind of rotation I’m looking for?
Are you're saying that by rotating with the engine braking the rear tires are effectively slightly "skidding" or breaking traction and the rear end is coming around? Is that what I'm trying to feel, that slight loss of rear traction, slight oversteer, and I just let the car sort of spin?
Thanks to your videos I’ve improved by a whole 3 seconds on every track I hop back in . Also inspired me to actually track my inputs and download a AI trainer to detect what I’m doing every lap and what I need to improve on right now I’ve noticed I get on the throttle early and my turning in I s a bit lack luster but my throttle input and Break control is decent
That's it. That's what I've been missing. I can get the car to neutral steer occasionally but not consistently and I couldn't figure out why. Now to practice.
Funnily enough, driving rallies with a sequential stick (rather than paddles) also teaches this. Be in the gear you want to exit with, when you enter the corner.
I've been sim racing now for a year on ACC LFM. I'm fairly quick but not stupidly fast. I race in split one and can usually get within a second a lap of the the top guys on most tracks. Would you be able to help me unlock that extra bit of speed? Or is your tutoring more tailered towards the new racer with not necessarily that much experience/knowledge yet? I would say I'm already quite a competent driver but just missing that little extra that separates me from battling for those top spots. I would relate it to losing weight. When you're well overweight. Getting of big chunks is fairly easy and noticeable but that last stubborn bit. Is the hardest to shift.
I tried the early braking/using engine braking to try to get some rotation/using gas to get late rotation out of corners tips used here after recognising my own 'plateau' funk that I've probably been in for years at this point. The early part of the video describing a racer who tries to get faster but doesn't know how described me completely, so it had me intrigued from the off. Last night, in Le Mans Ultimate, in a GTE class car in Portugal I was posting 1.50s/1.51s, with 1.49.something being the fastest I could manage. After watching just the first 5 to 10 minutes of this video I went back again in the same class of car, same course, default setup and even my first lap was already a 1.49.something, I began posting 1.48s within a lap or two more, and 1.47.5 ended up being the best I could post in 18 laps. The record time I posted last night, that I only achieved 2 or 3 laps out of 15-20 attempts is a disappointing lap to me, now. This stuff will really help those who don't already do this stuff. At least it definitely will in Le Mans Ultimate. I see no reason why it won't help in other high-quality sim racers too.
Ok, I was a bit skeptical this downshifting would make this much difference. Fired up Assetto Corsa and then proceeded to reset every lap record I tried it on! The more difficult the car is to drive, the more time I was able to shave off. Cheers 🍻
So I was right with my idea in downshifting. Seems that problem is with my setup because when im turning in fast corners like Puchon at Spa, my rear end is gone, I can not throw car into corner like I like to do >.< Can you give me any advice what can I change with setup?
I just tried the m4 for the first time the other day. Other than making a slight tweak to my roll bar settings, I find that being front engine rwd does help induce more oversteer naturally as the ass end is much lighter.
@@SuellioAlmeida as won't that make it more snappy as the engine is at the back or am I thinking about that completely wrong lol Also good luck in the real life championship
I found out playing AMS2 in a Porche Gt4 at LeMans purely by accident today, what you mentioned in this video. And It still feels sketchy sometimes, but I have just used it for 4 hours thus far and yeah doing it great here makes me go faster through thus ending up faster into the next section and having to get used to that new issue and all that jazz. It so much fun, that you mentioned what I found out by ""whoops I just missed my braking point well here goes nothing"" It changed my mindset completely. Thanks for giving me extra pointers to get better at it.
Thank you for this! Huge help and my problem as well. ITs getting passed that "push" feeling like im loosing the rear and controlling it. ----- What's a good overall track to practice on in iracing gt3 that gives a good variety of corner types to practice lap after lap?
Anyone confirm if this works in ACC? Cause its hard to downshift early cause of the safety feature on the engine (or maybe gearbox) that prevents downshifting too fast.
Muat admit i hadnt thought over this overly, but i watch a lot of aus supercars and yes, i dont think ive ever seen them shift in a corner. Its always downshifts prior, into the corner then upshifts coming out. Anyone really wanting to see this in action, watch some onboard cam footage in supercars. The downshifts are hard and fast in super quick succession, faster than this guy is doing too. Just watch in cab footage of pros and analyse how theyre doing it.
Hey Suellio! I absolutely love the content and especially the coaching, I’m thinking of maybe getting a session with you, but I mostly play on ACC… I’m normally around a second or so off the pace compared to the alien drivers, do you mostly do IRacing or are you fluent with ACC physics as well?
Lol I am a true lango lango and tried this on Sebring with GT3 Ferrari. 3rd!!! lap was 1 second faster than my BEST lap before lowering the gears like this.
The engine being in higher revs cause more braking force on the rear wheels since the car is RWD. Since there is more braking force, there is less grip available for turning and hence the rear starts sliding (rotation) It’s similar to moving the brake bias rearwards
When you're letting off the throttle at high RPM, the engine doesn't want to stay spinning that fast. It wants to slow down. Since the engine is connected to the rear tires, this natural want for the engine to return to idle RPM causes its own "braking" effect completely separate from the brakes itself. That's engine braking. The higher the RPM, the harder the engine wants to slow when off-throttle. This is what slows the rear wheels down in tandem with the brakes, causing the car to have more effective braking potential in the rear when downshifting which causes the car to want to rotate more when you turn.
But how do you know what % you are? In F1 i was in top 2/3% but switched over to assetto Corsa and now Le mans Ultimate. But i can’t see of know it anywhere. Like om sebring GTE class i do a 2:00.000
GT3 or GTE? 2:00 in GT3 would be close to alien pace, likely top 1%. But in a GTE, 2:00 is quite below average, maybe only top 80%. You can use garage61. Coach Dave is great for hotlaps (though they're on iRacing and ACC mainly)
nice. even i didn't like how he drive over the apex. but. am not judging.. 😊 thank you for teaching driver how to race PROPERLY. and if you don't mind. i made a playlist for my cars in racing game including a fast lap in Nürburgring. so i'd like you to react to my driving style. ( am using controller at the moment 😔😢 ). and you can say am a hardcore driver who using the car ability as possible. and you can made a video about it if you like. 😊 i just need a support. have a good day.
I hope you mean a lot of engine braking in SIM racing because in an actual race car your technique of more aggresive downshifting will end up being very hard on the engine and transmission, brakes are less expensive than engines and transmissions. Also downshifting while not braking enough an cause lock up of the transmission. Downshifting is done under braking in order to maximize the engine power on exit, excess late shifting on any car with limited slip differential or lokked up differential will cause the race car to over rotate and a loss of control will occur, Think about this the next time you're driving an actual racecar on a real track
This is ridiculously wrong on so many levels. Most race engines have an downshift limiter to stop the engine from over revving for starters. There are plenty of categories that use engine braking to rotate the car despite that. Supercars for example run a locked diff, so engine braking is vital to get such a heavy car to rotate. You can go look that up yourself and see them smashing the gears down as quickly as possible to get the rears to chirp and it to dance on the front end. Teams don't give a shit about the engine if it means they gain an advantage.
What makes me curious is... how did IRL drivers learn all this stuff before simracing lol? Like, cars are expensive, and there's so much technique, and you have to know a track inside and out to put in competitive times - the idea of "naturally fast" drivers seems far-fetched to me, because there's so much... IDK, trouble-shooting that goes into a competitive race lap
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Mr. Almeida I owe you an apology. In one of your videos I commented your checklist course was expensive, but then you said something that sticked with me, i invest more in equipment that is not making me faster. So I decided to try it out and bought your course and wow I was so mistaken. The best money I have ever spent on sim racing. I'm only half way through the course and I went from 1.39s at laguna seca with the mx5 cup to 1.36s and I know I can already do better with the lessons I just saw. It is incredible how your explanations apply to actually driving faster. I will buy any course you develop from now on, or else I will feel fomo. Hats off mate.
The Senna reference clips made my day. Amazing. Thanks...
Haha, dammit, half way through this video I was about to comment 'should show him onboard of Senna'. Then I saw your comment about him showing clips of Senna, I haven't reached that part in the video yet.
You are making me wanna get into the sim racing world... But unfortunetely its too expensive for me bc im in a difficult financial situation but your videos make me feel like Im there to experience these kind of stuff. keep it up
Good luck to you! Hope that you get to experience sim racing in the future.
@@ZeMaztr500 much love man
You can get a used g920 and used xbox one for around 100 bucks if you're prepared to be patient cruising marketplace, gumtree, etc.
I get if you don't have 100 bucks that can still be out of reach but just wanted to highlight that there are cheaper ways to get into this.
I was lucky to already have an office pc so to get started i bought an rx 580 gpu for 50 bucks and a g920 for 60 bucks. I rocked that for my first 6 months and had great fun and got to learn some of the basics.
I’m sorry to hear that buddy! It can be relatively cheap depending on how you do it. My first rig was around $250 for everything. Used Logitech g920, used Xbox, old monitor I got for free, a junkyard car seat and homemade wood rig out of free scrap wood.
If you can’t afford to save $250 over the course of a year you may want to re-think what car and/or house you can really afford.
@@alecmillea4539you don’t know their financial situation. They could be getting hit with a lot of child support, on disability, treating a family member.
The Senna bit made me think you should do something similar to Driver61 where you analyses a great driver technique but in relation with your teaching and what student are doing right or wrong.
Great idea!
Dude, your videos are absolute 🔥
I don't think I've ever sat and concentrated on YT videos as much as I do when I watch you, inspirational!
I realized after watching this that this was something I was struggling with and didn't realize it. I've picked up a ton of time be adopting this skill. Thanks so much Suellio for sharing the knowledge.
I kinda figured this out myself racing mazdas in iracing and spinning out often when downshifting going into a turn. Nice to see confirmation and learn what the best downshift timing is!
Without having someone experience these things first hand, there wouldn't be any racing books.
Racing is always being advanced due to changes in technology, and FWD being used in race cars today would have basically been unheard of in the past. It's so interesting to see what type of electronics can make up for certain compromises in the mechanics.
Dude this is amazing, I’m going to buy your course
I got the course and book in combo, never regret it. You’ll love it I promise.
i got the combo too and it is very good, i love it too!
You will not regret buying it. I got quite a few lightbulb moments and I'm still not in the end 😀
Just got in to sim racing and I've been watching a lot of content to help me learn where to improve. I just found ur channel, and I'm blown away with ur content.
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I watched you coach the pro driver in the other video, I’m already gaining seconds every lap to where I have to change the breaking points in the next corner…. Gamechanger!
This is a powerful technique! I tried this at Rudskogen in the SR10 and in my first session took a half second off of my best lap! Staying on top of the over-steer is a little bit challenging but so worth it...and a lot of fun!
Just read about that yesterday before sleeping while reading your book. Very good to see that in practice in the next day.
Wow, this video is insanely good! I was so concentrated watching and listening to your so well presented and logical explanations. Thank you so so much! I learned a big lesson about car rotation. I was also missing the realisation of those 33%. Thank you!
Awesome coaching i was using the Ferrari too and when i felt this slides i was afraid, so i stoped pushing too much, i was more used with the slides with cars like the mazda like you said, with this ferrari that with the fixed setup is mainly understeery, when you oversteer it is like suddenly and you sometimes not prepared and lost control. When you drive the mazda and other cars that oversteer on entry a lot you are used to neutral steer, sliding, so it is easy to control a oversteer. Now i will not be afraid of the oversteers on the Ferrari anymore and try to reach then without losing the car, instead of avoiding this oversteer.
Holy. I just realized when I'm learning a track and trying corners in different gears why the car feels like it's understeering when I'm in too high a gear. 🤯
Really great video. Thank you for posting! Will be good material to prep for the 12H Sebring race!!
After i bought your book I've got 4 wins in IRacing and jumped from 450 to 1400 IR in few days! So today I bought your course, can't wait to improve more and more!
Edit: after completing first 6 lessons, this course is amazing, I'm happy that I bought book firstly because I already know what your are talking about and I can understand it better - book was like puzzle pieces and now when I watch the course all of the elements are putting together into clear picture.
The Senna Suzuka video always struck me for how at the absolute ragged edge he was entering the turns. I always thought he was using brake and steering to induce such abrupt direction change, but you are right he slams the last gear and immediately flicks it into the corner.
Not only that, if you notice, the engine RPM peaks at a higher RPM during his downshifts than the maximum RPM he achieves during his upshifts. For example he might be changing up a gear at 15k, but on the downshifts he gets 15.5k.
with your book I purchased plus this video I understand more and more. really appreciate your work man if I have extra money I will definitely take a coaching session with you man.
Just a little feedback to the production: The music doesn’t really add anything. The negative of the music is that it makes it harder to hear the engine sound that is rather low in the mix. Just dump the music so we can focus on engine sound and speak.
thank you!
I always thought it was best to just downshift as soon as possible to get the most engine braking, because then you can brake later.
That's what I thought as well but apparently we've been timing that last downshift wrong.
@@tcs007it's personal preference as well as situational though. Sometimes you want to brake later into a turn so you might want more rotation from the gear change during a turn, but basically the way I see it is try to be in the gear that you want to exit the turn with, before you go into the turn. Using a higher gear isn't bad because it puts less resistance on the drive wheels( in this case rear wheels) and you can maintain your entry speed better. it's not always cut and dry. Tips like this are typically for achieving the best possible lap time in a hot lap because driving around other drivers adds a lot more variables. Defending position and passing will make you want to change your own behaviors compared to being wide open.
As a Brazilian, Senna's video made my day
Relish in the oversteer for tight corners, bask in the understeer for wider corners
Great video. Something I rarely think about myself. The increased stopping power alone is worth so much time
Interesting about the downshifting. I'm really slow and felt one of the reasons was I was downshifting too soon and going into too low a gear. Felt I was getting too much engine braking. Was trying to get out of that habit. Watched other quicker guys and sometimes they seemed to be in a higher gear and maybe coasting a bit more. But will go back to what I was doing and try braking later. Great video.
One could apply the same strategy if the front or rear has too little traction/ too much wear/ too much heat. If the fronts are over heating/ wearing out, do the aggressive early downshifts more, if the rears are wearing out/heating too much do the downshifts later.
Also if there is an imbalance. Eg if the front left is wearing out/ heating too much, do the downshifts even more aggressively on left hand turns, and if the right front is wearing out/ heating too much, do the aggressive downshifts more on right hand turns. The opposite is true for front wheel drive cars.
Thank you, Lewis, great tip! One small clarification to make sure I understand this correctly - if front left is wearing out, it means probably that right hand turns are the cause of it? Because when you turn to the right the most weight is on the left side of the car. And vise versa
@@viktorpavlovych yes. More force and wear is applied to the outside tire. If you pay close attention on tracks that have more turns in one direction, especially longer turns, those will put more wear on the outside tire. It gets a bit tricky if say a track has more left turns, but a couple of long right turns.
One could do the same w/ the rear tires. Although I've only noticed on corner exits, using more aggressive throttle. So if your left rear is wearing out faster or you suspect it will, accelerate less aggressively out of right hand turns.
This will make you a bit slower out of that turn, but you have to balance that w/ your tire wear. You gain/ loose more time in fast turns (1 mph more/less covers slightly more distance at high speeds). So it can get pretty complicated & debatable the benefit if, say there are more right turns (you would be loosing time in more turns, hurting you lap time more) but left tires are wearing out, adding to that, considering how much time you might be loosing in a long fast, eg right hand turn. I'd don't pretend to know how to balance all of those factors together.
Got, it thank you, Lewis!
@@viktorpavlovych correction, I made a slight error. Saving/ loosing TIME (eg +/- 0.1 sec) makes a bigger difference at high speeds.
Not +/- X mph. That ∆X mph would cover the same distance in both slow and fast speeds, as long as that ∆X mph is the same in both.
I learned this from reading a Skipp Barber book. I agree w/ the math of their statement, but if I make a slight mistake in a high speed turn, that can quickly turn into a very expensive & potentially deadly (IRL) penalty. So I feel more comfortable pushing the limits in slow to med speed corners where I have a bigger chance of saving it if I make a mistake.
@@lewisgordon1490 That is really interesting, thank you, Lewis!
Would learning how to drift help me when taking corners? Like helping me know the limit of my cars grip?
Sometimes, in the first chicane after Raidillon for example, I’ll feel the car would have continued to rotate right (rears going left, fronts going right), without any steering input from me had I not changed the direction of the car to follow on to the next corner. When it happens, I know that if I don’t steer left, it’ll spin, but if I do, I’ll still make the corner. Is that the kind of rotation I’m looking for?
Are you're saying that by rotating with the engine braking the rear tires are effectively slightly "skidding" or breaking traction and the rear end is coming around? Is that what I'm trying to feel, that slight loss of rear traction, slight oversteer, and I just let the car sort of spin?
This is correct
Yeah ”Neutral Steering“. if I can flick the car and it oversteers just a tad bit in the corner, I have major confidence for the rest of the lap.
Thanks to your videos I’ve improved by a whole 3 seconds on every track I hop back in . Also inspired me to actually track my inputs and download a AI trainer to detect what I’m doing every lap and what I need to improve on right now I’ve noticed I get on the throttle early and my turning in I s a bit lack luster but my throttle input and Break control is decent
i love that he doesn't want to break the car
That's it. That's what I've been missing. I can get the car to neutral steer occasionally but not consistently and I couldn't figure out why. Now to practice.
Funnily enough, driving rallies with a sequential stick (rather than paddles) also teaches this.
Be in the gear you want to exit with, when you enter the corner.
1:26 thats dubai isnt it? It looks like suzuka on second tot.
Have you taken skipbarber race school to see how your approach stack up with there's
Loving your content keep it up 🆙
Muito obrigado pelo vídeo Suellio.... me ajudou demais!!!!
Very good video.
I've been sim racing now for a year on ACC LFM. I'm fairly quick but not stupidly fast. I race in split one and can usually get within a second a lap of the the top guys on most tracks. Would you be able to help me unlock that extra bit of speed? Or is your tutoring more tailered towards the new racer with not necessarily that much experience/knowledge yet? I would say I'm already quite a competent driver but just missing that little extra that separates me from battling for those top spots. I would relate it to losing weight. When you're well overweight. Getting of big chunks is fairly easy and noticeable but that last stubborn bit. Is the hardest to shift.
I tried the early braking/using engine braking to try to get some rotation/using gas to get late rotation out of corners tips used here after recognising my own 'plateau' funk that I've probably been in for years at this point. The early part of the video describing a racer who tries to get faster but doesn't know how described me completely, so it had me intrigued from the off.
Last night, in Le Mans Ultimate, in a GTE class car in Portugal I was posting 1.50s/1.51s, with 1.49.something being the fastest I could manage.
After watching just the first 5 to 10 minutes of this video I went back again in the same class of car, same course, default setup and even my first lap was already a 1.49.something, I began posting 1.48s within a lap or two more, and 1.47.5 ended up being the best I could post in 18 laps. The record time I posted last night, that I only achieved 2 or 3 laps out of 15-20 attempts is a disappointing lap to me, now.
This stuff will really help those who don't already do this stuff. At least it definitely will in Le Mans Ultimate. I see no reason why it won't help in other high-quality sim racers too.
Ok, I was a bit skeptical this downshifting would make this much difference. Fired up Assetto Corsa and then proceeded to reset every lap record I tried it on! The more difficult the car is to drive, the more time I was able to shave off. Cheers 🍻
6:35 this is the slow in , fast out that formula one drivers use - Yes ?
Bite the apex! I love that!
No longer available??
Thanks for the content. Is that applicable as well to F3 cars in iracing?
So I was right with my idea in downshifting. Seems that problem is with my setup because when im turning in fast corners like Puchon at Spa, my rear end is gone, I can not throw car into corner like I like to do >.< Can you give me any advice what can I change with setup?
Hi mate, trial breaking works only in iRacing or ACC too ?
Can I convert these techniques into ACC
I think you can be a lot more aggressive on the brakes in acc but trailbraking applies
What would be the application for this on cars that are very slow to downshift like BMW GT4 for example?
I just tried the m4 for the first time the other day. Other than making a slight tweak to my roll bar settings, I find that being front engine rwd does help induce more oversteer naturally as the ass end is much lighter.
Does the early downshifts even work in the Porsche Cup as its has not gotTC and ABS etc if anyone can answer would be appreciated
yes it does
@@SuellioAlmeida as won't that make it more snappy as the engine is at the back or am I thinking about that completely wrong lol
Also good luck in the real life championship
which note are you singing when you say "boom"?
His hands on the steering wheel also look much better 👍
I found out playing AMS2 in a Porche Gt4 at LeMans purely by accident today, what you mentioned in this video. And It still feels sketchy sometimes, but I have just used it for 4 hours thus far and yeah doing it great here makes me go faster through thus ending up faster into the next section and having to get used to that new issue and all that jazz. It so much fun, that you mentioned what I found out by ""whoops I just missed my braking point well here goes nothing"" It changed my mindset completely. Thanks for giving me extra pointers to get better at it.
Why is he playing on a potato. 1:13
Thank you for this! Huge help and my problem as well. ITs getting passed that "push" feeling like im loosing the rear and controlling it. ----- What's a good overall track to practice on in iracing gt3 that gives a good variety of corner types to practice lap after lap?
Anyone confirm if this works in ACC? Cause its hard to downshift early cause of the safety feature on the engine (or maybe gearbox) that prevents downshifting too fast.
Muat admit i hadnt thought over this overly, but i watch a lot of aus supercars and yes, i dont think ive ever seen them shift in a corner. Its always downshifts prior, into the corner then upshifts coming out.
Anyone really wanting to see this in action, watch some onboard cam footage in supercars. The downshifts are hard and fast in super quick succession, faster than this guy is doing too. Just watch in cab footage of pros and analyse how theyre doing it.
Ps. Came across your channel watching Race Beyond Matter's content. You guys are both awesome for the community :)
Hey Suellio! I absolutely love the content and especially the coaching, I’m thinking of maybe getting a session with you, but I mostly play on ACC… I’m normally around a second or so off the pace compared to the alien drivers, do you mostly do IRacing or are you fluent with ACC physics as well?
do you help with ACC? I need some help
yeah i applied them, i shaved 2.5 seconds off my pb
im even faster in irl in Mazda cup
Love these videos!
Lol I am a true lango lango and tried this on Sebring with GT3 Ferrari. 3rd!!! lap was 1 second faster than my BEST lap before lowering the gears like this.
How does the RPM being higher cause more turning? What's the physical mechanism behind it?
The engine being in higher revs cause more braking force on the rear wheels since the car is RWD. Since there is more braking force, there is less grip available for turning and hence the rear starts sliding (rotation)
It’s similar to moving the brake bias rearwards
When you're letting off the throttle at high RPM, the engine doesn't want to stay spinning that fast. It wants to slow down. Since the engine is connected to the rear tires, this natural want for the engine to return to idle RPM causes its own "braking" effect completely separate from the brakes itself. That's engine braking.
The higher the RPM, the harder the engine wants to slow when off-throttle. This is what slows the rear wheels down in tandem with the brakes, causing the car to have more effective braking potential in the rear when downshifting which causes the car to want to rotate more when you turn.
Wered the video go my man?
Is this reupload? Because i swear i seen exact same named video with exact same preview picture few months ago
Massa !
Fique forte irmão !
video is saying its unavailable for me
On iracing you can’t hear the oversteer, you don’t notice that you’re losing the rear
💀💀 skill issue
Crank up the tire sounds and lower the engine will help you start to recognize it
bassshakers? 🤔
I can hear it, I can feel it, I can predict it, I can save it 🎵
Hi Suellio, of course once you understand the technique and what to listen to to prevent it later is almost automatic.
It would be so great if you translate your book The Motor Racing Book in french :) ! I will buy it like many!
The Motor Racing Checklist has official subtitles in french :)
@@SuellioAlmeida and for the physical book, is this in the pipeline?
Cool. Thanks
Fantastic
Amazing Video but music is to loud
But how do you know what % you are? In F1 i was in top 2/3% but switched over to assetto Corsa and now Le mans Ultimate. But i can’t see of know it anywhere. Like om sebring GTE class i do a 2:00.000
GT3 or GTE? 2:00 in GT3 would be close to alien pace, likely top 1%. But in a GTE, 2:00 is quite below average, maybe only top 80%. You can use garage61. Coach Dave is great for hotlaps (though they're on iRacing and ACC mainly)
This is also why Max is complaining so much about downshifts not feeling right in free practice.
Got -2s just from learning to downshift properly and I'm on mobile 😂
Hermoso!
nice. even i didn't like how he drive over the apex. but. am not judging.. 😊
thank you for teaching driver how to race PROPERLY.
and if you don't mind. i made a playlist for my cars in racing game including a fast lap in Nürburgring. so i'd like you to react to my driving style. ( am using controller at the moment 😔😢 ). and you can say am a hardcore driver who using the car ability as possible.
and you can made a video about it if you like. 😊
i just need a support.
have a good day.
Bro,make a video on Kartkraft.
the music is so louder then your voice
I hope you mean a lot of engine braking in SIM racing because in an actual race car your technique of more aggresive downshifting will end up being very hard on the engine and transmission, brakes are less expensive than engines and transmissions. Also downshifting while not braking enough an cause lock up of the transmission. Downshifting is done under braking in order to maximize the engine power on exit, excess late shifting on any car with limited slip differential or lokked up differential will cause the race car to over rotate and a loss of control will occur, Think about this the next time you're driving an actual racecar on a real track
I downshift the shit out of my own Radical SR3 and so does everyone in my championship
But that's a purpose-built car so xD
This is ridiculously wrong on so many levels. Most race engines have an downshift limiter to stop the engine from over revving for starters. There are plenty of categories that use engine braking to rotate the car despite that.
Supercars for example run a locked diff, so engine braking is vital to get such a heavy car to rotate. You can go look that up yourself and see them smashing the gears down as quickly as possible to get the rears to chirp and it to dance on the front end.
Teams don't give a shit about the engine if it means they gain an advantage.
What makes me curious is... how did IRL drivers learn all this stuff before simracing lol? Like, cars are expensive, and there's so much technique, and you have to know a track inside and out to put in competitive times - the idea of "naturally fast" drivers seems far-fetched to me, because there's so much... IDK, trouble-shooting that goes into a competitive race lap
1,5s faster is pole top split or what was the laptime before... The titles sound so clickbait
What's he doing wrong? Felt like too early of an entry, overdriving, all kinds of things 🤣
Been there, done that.
5 minutes🎉
God damn 🗿
for the algo
first
Why is this even a thing? Do you expect a trophy?
Yeah agree with that