A no nonsense tutorial, thumbs up. Another video recommended using a universal shallow 10mm socket to get those back pan bolts out. Gonna give it a shot in our '19 C7.
That was great - very straight forward. My local dealer just did a flush, and while I've never had a shudder issue, I did request the new fluid. They used the old fluid anyway...No harm done I presume. It was less expensive, but at $300+, still a good choice for the DIY.
Thank you for sharing and saving me and probably many other people hours of research.. Also appreciated the quality of the video and the fact you kept it within a timely manner.
OMG wow!!!! So I did things a bit different than I was planning. I bought two pumps from harbor freight for $8 each. Never pulled the pan (only 39k miles), pulled out 6 quarts of DIRTY fluid, I was surprised how dirty it was, nearly black. Then filled 6 clean quarts, then drained again after running the car 10 mins through gears, etc. I drained 4 different times and filled 4 times. Even on the last attempt the fluid was still far from new looking. But I decided to give it a drive, INSTANTLY the trans shifted smooth through all gears and the shudder was gone! I have been losing sleep over this for weeks. It wasn’t that hard to do at all even on a corvette where it’s much tighter working space. Not going to lie I was skeptical on this working. Before I had a hard shift into 5/6/7 gears and then a shudder after it was in those gears. Not it’s smooth shifting and shudder is gone. I pulled out 23 quarts total and put 23 clean quarts in. I estimate that the fluid is still only 75% fresh. My backup plan was if this didn’t fix it, I will drop the pan and change the filter and fill it once more. But I am feeling blessed that this did the trick! WOW thank god! The guy sold me the car knowing it had this problem, but clearly didn’t inform me. What a prick!
Thanks for a very informative video. Have to do that on my 2015 corvette before I start getting shudders. Will probably do it 3 times with Mobile 1 blue label to dilute the old fluid. GM sure is making owning their car very difficult. At least leave the dip stick. Nope, too easy for us. Leave room to remove the pan. Nope, too easy. Need to loosen the mount and push up the transmission. Oh well...
I’ve read others say that the dealer can reprogram the TC with some update? And then a garage relearn whatever that means? Have you any info on this TC update? My 16 A8 has a shudder on light throttle. 39k miles
Recently my check engine light came on and the diagnosis was the code P0711 and P0700.I was wondering changing the transmission fluid will fix the issue. What is your recommendation. Thanks.
@@kRochi-bv2ue Yeah, I changed the lower harness that has the TFT sensor which means the transmission fluid and the filter would be changed in the process. Thats the only way to fix it. If you dont fix, it wont hurt the car in a long run. Howerer, you should fix it anyhow. What year is yours? is it Z06? Does the rear driver transmisson cooling fan blows on and off as well? Let me know if anything.
Great video! Thank you. How did you get the fill plug back in without burning your hands on the exhaust pipe? It seems to me that if you wait until the car cools the fluid will come out the fill hole since it was suspended while the engine was running.
Just gotta go for it carefully, It goes in easy with the plastic pin pulled up, the hard part is pressing the plastic pin back in. It pays to have a skilled hand its stupid I agree. Yes it would overflow when you turn it off. Ive also used a small curved pry tool to press the pin back down.
HAPPY NEW YEAR! Great well done tutorial. Thank you for this important info. Question..do you mind stating the mileage & how much metal on the magnets and your opinion of what you saw? My car has just over 11k and has had a shutter in third gear ever since the day I drove it home. My good friend is a GM Vet mechanic and says the torque converter needs replacing, of course GM declines. Your comment would be appreciated.
Thanks Same to you! Yes GM has a bulletin about switching fluids to this M1 stuff for the issue. I cant vouch for a "fluid fix" because we changed out the torque converter in this car after he blew up the torque tube. (345 toyo R888's and hard launches got to the rubber couplers) I dont recall the miles on this one I would say around 50-60k were on it. Some collection of fine metallic fuzz is normal as the metal parts inevitably wear. Maybe the size of a BB on the magnet.
Why is my 17 grand sport acting like its bumping back in gear when I come to a stop and hit the gas then bumps back in gear? It only does it if I hit the gas before coming to a complete stop.
I Would also like to know this, my SS A8 Camaro does the same thing. Did you ever find out why by chance? I plan to change the fluid on my car now to see if it helps. I've never had the shudder while I've owned the car though.@@jeffreyblanchard8151
Have you had any issues since you changed the fluid? I was getting ready to do this, I reached out to Mobile 1 to make sure I can do a partial drain and change filter. Replace old OEM ATF with the new Mobile 1 GM recommends. Hers what the engineer from Mobile 1 said: Since the Mobil 1 synthetic LV ATF HP and Corvette fluid are not tested for compatibility, we are not sure about the same. So its better not to mix both the oils, and a complete drain before refilling with fresh Mobil 1 is good. Regards, V. Raja Contractor Lubricants Technical Support Engineer
The only way to not mix any fluid types is to disassemble the trans, and clean every square inch of it as well as the lines with a solvent. If your unsure of this take it to the dealer and have them address the original issue for liability concerns. Ive not had any issues but theres no cheap way to test it. M1 doesnt want any liability. You could drain and fill 2 or more times to make sure you get 95% out of the system if you are a diy kinda fellow. Most of the dealer trans flush machines dilute more then they flush (via the pan fill port) but at least if you develop or continue to have issues its not on you. Good luck. This car drove pretty nice before and after this so I cant say its a miracle cure like some claim tbh. If you want to do the best proper flush make sure the trans flush machine plugs direct between the transmission lines. It can take 100% of the return fluid and inject 100% of the new fluid but it still mixes with the old in the pan / torque converter and the cycle repeats till you run out of fluid in the machine. Then it gets manually topped off to gm spec.
Hey man cool and informative video. I have a c7 vette z06. Gm recommends to do 3 flushes. It that required ? My vette makes a stuttered noise on low gears from 2 to 1 or 1-2 on drive mode. Also how many litres does it take so I'll go ahead and order some? Thanks !
I'm having the same issue with my 2015 A8 Stingray. It only has 7200k miles on it. Taking it to the dealer 2mro to see if they will honor their 18-NA-355 service bulletin. If not, I hope my extended warranty I purchased will. You know how these guys don't wanna payout..
Excellent DIY - I don't know about the size of the "catch" pan if you are doing this process in the "normal" dudes garage - what would the process be if you were asked to do it in your garage with jack stands - I'm sure there are many of us that would benefit from you doing this from that perspective. Thanks again, this was very informative!!! PAPA PERRY - RETIRED - 2016 Z06 with 13K miles - THANKS AGAIN!!!
Believe me Ive done my share of that. Ideally ramps in the front with a good wheel chock behind the front tires so it wont roll off. Jack up the rear from the subframe. Use a block of wood against the grain lift up and put 2 jack stands under the rear subframe to make the vehicle level. I use plywood pucks I made for lifting. Soft enough to not gouge the aluminum or even frame rail paint.
I have a question, does anyone know if Chevrolet used the upgraded fluid in the 2019 Chevrolet grand sport PS. Thank you very much for the video. I have it saved for reference purposes in the future.
@@chemicalspore Sweet looking forward to seeing the new ride height. Maybe Ill get motivated to drop mine down a little. I have 1LE monster trucks in mine. Adjustable front spring perch, and a heater hose mod might work on the roads out here.
I have a 2017 v6 camaro with this transmission. 20k miles now and I'm experiencing hard shifts when at low speed, like passing 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 gear. It does it occasionally and I have not experienced slippage/shudder at high speeds. In you experience, do you think my problem can be the fluid as well? thank you !!
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163890-9999.pdf GM Bulletin #18-NA-355 There is a bulletin on this about torque converter shudder and switching to the updated fluid. As far as the fix Im not sure on the success rate. This one got a performance stall converter so I dont know first hand. Id check for warranty coverage. You can give them the bulletin number above.
@@CamaroRick Thank you very very much. My car is indeed still under warranty for about 9 more months, but the dealerships around me are behind 2 or more weeks of work and want me to leave the car there "in line" for the entirety of the time because they don't take appointments. I am debated if flushing the system myself or suck it up and leave it there for as long as it pleases them.
@@blackhound9975 It would be best to let them do it in case the torque converter is also faulty. They could void the warranty if the fluid is changed out from anyone but a GM dealer due to the possibility of improper procedures etc.
And having a history of the issue logged by them is good for your case should you ever have to escalate the related warranty claims within the next year or so
as many as you like, just run through the shifter positions and recheck as you go with a final at temp maybe start at 3 to 5. Some variations may vary on the total. This one in particular was a z51. I believe it took about 8.5 quarts in all
I built my c5 on jackstands in my garage, heads/cam/clutch etc. and thought it was easy. Kinda nervous about getting a c7 cause I'm a little out of the loop as far as gen5 LT goes. How much easier/harder is it to work on a c7 compared to a c5?
Very similar in construction but with a lot more components like coolers, lines, electronic boxes... they are nice tho. Some things are easier some harder
A no nonsense tutorial, thumbs up. Another video recommended using a universal shallow 10mm socket to get those back pan bolts out. Gonna give it a shot in our '19 C7.
That was great - very straight forward. My local dealer just did a flush, and while I've never had a shudder issue, I did request the new fluid. They used the old fluid anyway...No harm done I presume. It was less expensive, but at $300+, still a good choice for the DIY.
Thank you for sharing and saving me and probably many other people hours of research.. Also appreciated the quality of the video and the fact you kept it within a timely manner.
And don't forget to do this X3 to get rid of that annoying torque converter shudder. Excellent info and demo Rick!
Thank you 💯
How long between fluid changes? Couple days? Couple thousand miles?
Minutes between
@@chadpugh1490 immediately.
OMG wow!!!! So I did things a bit different than I was planning. I bought two pumps from harbor freight for $8 each. Never pulled the pan (only 39k miles), pulled out 6 quarts of DIRTY fluid, I was surprised how dirty it was, nearly black. Then filled 6 clean quarts, then drained again after running the car 10 mins through gears, etc. I drained 4 different times and filled 4 times. Even on the last attempt the fluid was still far from new looking. But I decided to give it a drive, INSTANTLY the trans shifted smooth through all gears and the shudder was gone! I have been losing sleep over this for weeks. It wasn’t that hard to do at all even on a corvette where it’s much tighter working space. Not going to lie I was skeptical on this working. Before I had a hard shift into 5/6/7 gears and then a shudder after it was in those gears. Not it’s smooth shifting and shudder is gone. I pulled out 23 quarts total and put 23 clean quarts in. I estimate that the fluid is still only 75% fresh. My backup plan was if this didn’t fix it, I will drop the pan and change the filter and fill it once more. But I am feeling blessed that this did the trick! WOW thank god! The guy sold me the car knowing it had this problem, but clearly didn’t inform me. What a prick!
Great work, Thank you for your precious time and education sharing much appreciated 🎉
This is such a great, helpful tutorial. Thank you!
Thanks for not wasteing my time. Very good vid.
I loved this tutorial!! Great job!!
Glad you enjoyed it, Thanks for watching!
Thanks for a very informative video. Have to do that on my 2015 corvette before I start getting shudders. Will probably do it 3 times with Mobile 1 blue label to dilute the old fluid. GM sure is making owning their car very difficult. At least leave the dip stick. Nope, too easy for us. Leave room to remove the pan. Nope, too easy. Need to loosen the mount and push up the transmission. Oh well...
I’ve read others say that the dealer can reprogram the TC with some update? And then a garage relearn whatever that means? Have you any info on this TC update? My 16 A8 has a shudder on light throttle. 39k miles
Same year model and same shudder. Going to get the triple flush done as prescribed.
Recently my check engine light came on and the diagnosis was the code P0711 and P0700.I was wondering changing the transmission fluid will fix the issue. What is your recommendation. Thanks.
Hey I have the same exact codes on mine right now. Did this end up fixing it for you or what did you do to fix it? Thanks in advance.
@@kRochi-bv2ue Yeah, I changed the lower harness that has the TFT sensor which means the transmission fluid and the filter would be changed in the process. Thats the only way to fix it. If you dont fix, it wont hurt the car in a long run. Howerer, you should fix it anyhow. What year is yours? is it Z06? Does the rear driver transmisson cooling fan blows on and off as well? Let me know if anything.
Why didn’t you do the triple flush? More than half of the old fluid is still inside the trans/tc from what I’ve been told?
Nice work!
Great Video GM recs removing rear crossmember for pan removal
Followed the trans fluid change on my 2017 Camaro 2SS. Thanks.
Glad it helped!
Do you think this will work on a 2015 Escalade with the 8speed
It should be the same procedure for the fluid level.
I can’t wrap my head around that custom way you filled the fluid how does that work?
EVERYTHING on a Corvette is a ROYAL Pain In the ASS. Every one after the C3 got waaay more nutty.
Mostly yes, but wheel bearings, brakes, oil seals it's the opposite. That's the only things I can think of that got easier lol
well done video! Easy to understand! Thanks!
Thanks for the comment!
Thank you for convincing me not to do this myself.😅
Great video! Thank you. How did you get the fill plug back in without burning your hands on the exhaust pipe? It seems to me that if you wait until the car cools the fluid will come out the fill hole since it was suspended while the engine was running.
Just gotta go for it carefully, It goes in easy with the plastic pin pulled up, the hard part is pressing the plastic pin back in. It pays to have a skilled hand its stupid I agree. Yes it would overflow when you turn it off. Ive also used a small curved pry tool to press the pin back down.
@@CamaroRick Ok, will do. Thank you for the tips.
HAPPY NEW YEAR! Great well done tutorial. Thank you for this important info. Question..do you mind stating the mileage & how much metal on the magnets and your opinion of what you saw? My car has just over 11k and has had a shutter in third gear ever since the day I drove it home. My good friend is a GM Vet mechanic and says the torque converter needs replacing, of course GM declines. Your comment would be appreciated.
Thanks Same to you! Yes GM has a bulletin about switching fluids to this M1 stuff for the issue. I cant vouch for a "fluid fix" because we changed out the torque converter in this car after he blew up the torque tube. (345 toyo R888's and hard launches got to the rubber couplers) I dont recall the miles on this one I would say around 50-60k were on it. Some collection of fine metallic fuzz is normal as the metal parts inevitably wear. Maybe the size of a BB on the magnet.
Why is my 17 grand sport acting like its bumping back in gear when I come to a stop and hit the gas then bumps back in gear? It only does it if I hit the gas before coming to a complete stop.
I Would also like to know this, my SS A8 Camaro does the same thing. Did you ever find out why by chance? I plan to change the fluid on my car now to see if it helps. I've never had the shudder while I've owned the car though.@@jeffreyblanchard8151
Awesome video 📹 👏
Have you had any issues since you changed the fluid? I was getting ready to do this, I reached out to Mobile 1 to make sure I can do a partial drain and change filter. Replace old OEM ATF with the new Mobile 1 GM recommends. Hers what the engineer from Mobile 1 said:
Since the Mobil 1 synthetic LV ATF HP and Corvette fluid are not tested for compatibility, we are not sure about the same.
So its better not to mix both the oils, and a complete drain before refilling with fresh Mobil 1 is good.
Regards,
V. Raja
Contractor
Lubricants Technical Support Engineer
The only way to not mix any fluid types is to disassemble the trans, and clean every square inch of it as well as the lines with a solvent. If your unsure of this take it to the dealer and have them address the original issue for liability concerns. Ive not had any issues but theres no cheap way to test it. M1 doesnt want any liability. You could drain and fill 2 or more times to make sure you get 95% out of the system if you are a diy kinda fellow. Most of the dealer trans flush machines dilute more then they flush (via the pan fill port) but at least if you develop or continue to have issues its not on you. Good luck. This car drove pretty nice before and after this so I cant say its a miracle cure like some claim tbh. If you want to do the best proper flush make sure the trans flush machine plugs direct between the transmission lines. It can take 100% of the return fluid and inject 100% of the new fluid but it still mixes with the old in the pan / torque converter and the cycle repeats till you run out of fluid in the machine. Then it gets manually topped off to gm spec.
I agree with what you're saying ... appreciate you're response. Great channel bud !
@@lapua_3382 Thanks! And good luck with yours. 👍
What about the old fluid in the torque converter and cooler lines?
This car in the video has a transmission shudder ? Or u just can switch to mobil1 anyways?
Hey man cool and informative video. I have a c7 vette z06. Gm recommends to do 3 flushes. It that required ? My vette makes a stuttered noise on low gears from 2 to 1 or 1-2 on drive mode. Also how many litres does it take so I'll go ahead and order some? Thanks !
I'm having the same issue with my 2015 A8 Stingray. It only has 7200k miles on it. Taking it to the dealer 2mro to see if they will honor their 18-NA-355 service bulletin. If not, I hope my extended warranty I purchased will. You know how these guys don't wanna payout..
8L90 for the win!
Excellent DIY - I don't know about the size of the "catch" pan if you are doing this process in the "normal" dudes garage - what would the process be if you were asked to do it in your garage with jack stands - I'm sure there are many of us that would benefit from you doing this from that perspective. Thanks again, this was very informative!!! PAPA PERRY - RETIRED - 2016 Z06 with 13K miles - THANKS AGAIN!!!
Believe me Ive done my share of that. Ideally ramps in the front with a good wheel chock behind the front tires so it wont roll off. Jack up the rear from the subframe. Use a block of wood against the grain lift up and put 2 jack stands under the rear subframe to make the vehicle level. I use plywood pucks I made for lifting. Soft enough to not gouge the aluminum or even frame rail paint.
What would 80 inch lbs be in ft lbs? That's the only torque wrench I have lol thanks for the vid
Holy mother of God, that is really difficult. I'm gonna find a shop to do mine. ya gotta jack the motor up too
What is the tool called for getting the fill plug out called?
A screw driver would work, I just used a panel clip tool
I have a question, does anyone know if Chevrolet used the upgraded fluid in the 2019 Chevrolet grand sport
PS. Thank you very much for the video. I have it saved for reference purposes in the future.
No they did not. I know from experience.
@@darrellbarlow3975 thanks 😊👍
1:21 had me dying. Isn't that wonderful? WHAT? lol
LOL! How do you like those Koni's?
@@CamaroRick ummmmm, im having big problems getting the front ones in. I think i messed something up
I had the front springs on back wards
@@chemicalspore Sweet looking forward to seeing the new ride height. Maybe Ill get motivated to drop mine down a little. I have 1LE monster trucks in mine. Adjustable front spring perch, and a heater hose mod might work on the roads out here.
@@CamaroRick i got it all done. Im no pro so it took trial and error. You bringing the little on down yet? You can migrate with the snow birds. Lol
I have a 2017 v6 camaro with this transmission. 20k miles now and I'm experiencing hard shifts when at low speed, like passing 1 to 2 and 2 to 3 gear. It does it occasionally and I have not experienced slippage/shudder at high speeds. In you experience, do you think my problem can be the fluid as well? thank you !!
static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163890-9999.pdf
GM Bulletin #18-NA-355
There is a bulletin on this about torque converter shudder and switching to the updated fluid. As far as the fix Im not sure on the success rate. This one got a performance stall converter so I dont know first hand. Id check for warranty coverage. You can give them the bulletin number above.
@@CamaroRick Thank you very very much. My car is indeed still under warranty for about 9 more months, but the dealerships around me are behind 2 or more weeks of work and want me to leave the car there "in line" for the entirety of the time because they don't take appointments. I am debated if flushing the system myself or suck it up and leave it there for as long as it pleases them.
@@blackhound9975 It would be best to let them do it in case the torque converter is also faulty. They could void the warranty if the fluid is changed out from anyone but a GM dealer due to the possibility of improper procedures etc.
And having a history of the issue logged by them is good for your case should you ever have to escalate the related warranty claims within the next year or so
@@CamaroRick luckily I found a dealership that takes appointments and they'll do it the same day. Thank you for all the help and suggestions!
What rear diffuser is that? Also just did this last week thanks to your video. Saved me 400 bucks 👍👍👍👍👍
How many quarts did you really use before checking the level ?
as many as you like, just run through the shifter positions and recheck as you go with a final at temp maybe start at 3 to 5. Some variations may vary on the total. This one in particular was a z51. I believe it took about 8.5 quarts in all
👊🏻👊🏻😎
Glad it helped ya!
my 2019 C7 Z06 has 15k miles, when should I do this?
Idk what the official GM interval is, but I always change my trans/diff fluid once a year. Cheap insurance
I built my c5 on jackstands in my garage, heads/cam/clutch etc. and thought it was easy. Kinda nervous about getting a c7 cause I'm a little out of the loop as far as gen5 LT goes. How much easier/harder is it to work on a c7 compared to a c5?
Very similar in construction but with a lot more components like coolers, lines, electronic boxes... they are nice tho. Some things are easier some harder
Just checked my owners manual. 45,000 miles change transmission fluid. I’m done. That was easy. HaHa
PS my car is 2017 grand sport.