@@Lucas_Nutsthat the character that's literally called lifeline and the original healing character is getting outclassed by some other non healing legend
@@danylol772 Ah I see it, does make sense. Although they are both support-class now, and lifeline is still a great revival/healer, her counters remain the same, except she's better (balanced) than before if you ask me, being able to revive both teammates and still be free, but still being countered by agressive pushes/AoE damage, her drone heals just fine and allows full recoveries to happen a lot faster. My point saying that "it was obvious" was due to the fact that you have more protection being revived by a mirage than by a lifeline, no matter if lifeline gets her rez shield back, the game changed from that time, you have mad maggie, fuze, valkyrie, vantage, ash, ballistic, horizon, and granades to counter lifeline easily, back then you had at max a bangalore or gibby ult, maybe a crypto, or a lucky old revenant tactical, or a well thrown granade, which also counter mirage but you need more earwork, so what gives? The only somewhat negative part about lifeline is her ult, if you buff her she becomes unsufferable, if you nerf her she becomes useless, if you rework her... Could fall either way, depends on what kind of rework, making her drone follow her makes no difference because if you get hit the drone stops healing, and you use the drone to heal teammates looting or already healing shields/recently revived, her old rez shield won't have as much impact because we have newer legends to counter that, you'll just have other legends mains annoyed or get more agressive with pushes, making her ult a respawn beacon is just making it so you don't have to loot support bins or have the luck for a mobby in her package, so what do you think would be best to rework on her? If you read all of this, sorry for the walltext. Also did not mean any rudeness.
Ok hear me out. A reward for crypto we're his ultimate take 50 shield and disrupt energy weapons for some seconds. His passive can be scanning the enemy and seeing how much shield health they or u can make it we're he hack the kill leader banners that are across the map. The event could be called crypto unknown error or crypto unknown files.
I personally think she's fine right now. Not including the ult. If they were to make the drone follow Lifeline around I think it'd be a bit buggy since it could get stuck on walls and all that stuff. If they were to change her drone to also display a shield while also healing you, that would honestly just send Newcastle even further down the rabbit hole as he's the second lowest pick rate. I think the mobile respawn beacon built inside of the care package might actually be cool and a nice change. That way it actually makes sense to use it near endgame. (Instead of only using it just for evo swapping.)
I 100% agree. The main reason someone picks Newcastle is for his tactical and his passive. I think maybe they should allow lifeline to reposition her heal drone, like Newcastle's shield, and I also thing the ult rework would be great. I don't think I've used a lifeline ult since like season 13. I just don't think about it, or I've already got purple shield so there's no reason to broadcast my location
Honestly ult should drop a respawn beacon that revives teammates with blue shields and a gun of their choice with no attachments makes killing the people resed via ult harder to kill then just make the ult take forever to charge so your teammates don’t just die on purpose to get guns early
@@MrBreadstixs I don't see why it would lower. It's an addon to the ult that doesn't get rid of anything. And I rarely see people carry mobi's anyway so I'm the one that usually has to carry one lol
@@koolkaleb19same here they gave her a massive buff when they reduce her slowdown revive time movement speed. This is just doing too much. Her drone follows her with the shield, and it heals you? That’s doing too much…
my idea for life lines passive is that she has two versions of it, on one hand, if she does tap rez then it’ll do the normal tap rez, but if she sticks the rez then it’ll be her revive shield
Ok hear me out. A reward for crypto we're his ultimate take 50 shield and disrupt energy weapons for some seconds. His passive can be scanning the enemy and seeing how much shield health they or u can make it we're he hack the kill leader banners that are across the map. The event could be called crypto unknown error or crypto unknown files.
Should Life line drops a healing pylon instead of a care package? Maybe like Watson's pylon but for health and it puts up a little healing area, or something of the sort. Also what about crypto? He's a scary legend when you see him, he's like John wick but scarier
@@StealthBomber422 I though that too, I think they should just give him a second one because nerolink works well, maybe something small... Like being slightly faster with pistols? Or maybe even something big like wall running... Whatever the case I'm just happy to play crypto.
@@Flare_Tc Well I shouldn't have said it's dumb... it's just outdated.. honestly i really good Passive for him could be he can't be detected by any scans since he is a hacker
@@StealthBomber422maybe like the ghost perk from cod? Like making him unscannable by most legends and even heat indicators or beacon scans? I see the idea, I like it.
I think one good addition would be, that she can get the cards if the teammates are down, and killed, but at the cost of an item. Like the batteries or the medkit. The drone don't need the shield but it following her around could be a good implement, that when she reaches full health it stops
@@RyanGP1203_MemeLord I'm a Newcastle main but I genuinely think Lifeline takes the cake with the gold knock. The ability to keep shooting while also reviving somebody is insane. Both are good for their own reason.
I mained lifeline for years but shes not the same and id absolutely love if she got reborn ❤️ i hope they do something like this shes such a great character
the only rework he needs is being able to move his drone around like vantage's bat, makes him more casual friendly other than that he's more or less just got a high skill ceiling
Woah woah woah hold on a minute. Revenant was reworked because his old kit was so toxic. It was hard to buff him without making him annoying and if you nerfed him, he was just useless. Crypto isnt useless and he isn't toxic. He just needs an actual passive and the ability to move his drone like vantage but a whole rework is outrageous. The only legend that needs to be reworked is Mirage because no matter what good change he gets, hes just always bad. My idea is not a full rework but just change the tactical. His passive and ult is strong enough.
@@Director_Oompaloompa fr fr like update the amount of stuff the decoys can do, climb, say voicelines, shoot guns(gun flashes but no bullets), random shield crack audio when getting bamboozled. Or maybe even being able create a decoy if of Ur teammates if you choose. Probably overkill but if someone gets Bamboozled like right in the face the lil robots that make up the decoy explode and give an effect on U(it's a toss up between a debuffed wattson slow or catalyst blind -Totally not a mirage main
Passive : health drone follows her around whilst healing . Allow the same 2 tactical res as is current but provide a shield round player equal to 50% of current knockdown shield health and lasts for 1second after rez completes. (This would allow players at least a "chance" at getting away or back in the fight after rez) Active : lifeline activates her health bot wherin it defaults to follow mode . Player can toggle between follow mode and sending bot to a static location to heal for duration of active. Ult : cancels any ongoing combat res or active healing. lifeline sends her bot to mandatory fixed position where after a 2 second delay it overloads sending out a 360 radial burst of energy relative to its position. This slows nearby enemies by 50% for 2 seconds within blast radius and instantly heals team mates within by 125% of current health...this will however disable the use of the bot healing active or for combat res for 20 seconds whilst it reboots.
To keep her combat medic kinda style the drone should def follow you if you’re connected and moving slow enough, if you move too fast or disconnect it’ll stay still. Her ult could be a home remedy potion types or something, if it hits teammates it heals them but if it hits enemies it does direct health damage. I feel like this would keep her identity as a combat medic being able to fight and heal but also make her pretty viable. The drone buff to follow you is strong by itself and the only drawback is you can’t move really fast, basic walk speed would be max speed for the drone. The home remedy ult as grenades maybe she gets 3 and they charge overtime similar to bang smoke or vantage sniper shot. Lifeline definitely seems like the experimental type to mix home remedy and modern medicine to make something unique that does the trick. Making a grenade that damages enemies in the puddle left behind but also burns them over time for a short duration would be great for the combat part but also heal enemies and allow downed players to self revive while sitting in the puddle would be great too. Itd be very strong to have that on your team but also the puddle doesn’t provide much of anything so placement is important. Cant throw a puddle out on the open cause the heal won’t be enough to tank shots so you can get the kill, plus if your teammate is trying to self revive out in the open with the puddle they’ll just get killed before that or downed again. On the chance your team is really good at staying alive and attacking then you don’t need heals then you can use ult to help you im the fight
@@kingky9600 All they need to do is the stuff they’re working on now and remove the blinking from his ultimate. Crypto needs so many more changes to his kit to be relevant to anything that isn’t the lore.
I would love this to be a reality, being an old lifeline main I just got bored of her new abilities and found that the manual revive with the old Rez shield was 10x better than the new automatic revive
As a lifeline main, genuinely she really only needs her shield back when reviving and her care package needs some sort of buff or rework. Itd be great if they gave the shield health to balance it out, and only have it on one person if both of your teammates are down. Her care package would be really nice if it worked like the imc armory.
Drone heal with shield is a little broken, the last idea is pretty cool, having a respawn beacon attached to the top of a care package would be great maybe they limit it to one per game
When revenant got revamped he completely changed. I'd say if lifeline got revamped shed also have a very different kit as to what she currently has. Here's my unique take on what I think would be cool Her passive would be called "Advanced healing" this would allow her to be able to combine 3 small meds of the same kind and turn it into a medkit/Bat depending on the items used. This can be combined in the inventory or if you hold the heals menu open.(idk how optimal it'd be to be honest but i think its a cool niche thing) I say 3 because i feel 2 would be too cheap as she can spawn in game with a free battery and 4 small meds is too much. she'd also still keep her double res with DOC. Ability would be called "Combat Medic" it would allow DOC to follow and heal you but if enemies are near it'll Also latch on to them and sap HP every other second.(Think of it like caustic gasish without the slow debuff) this can be used offensively since it follows you now and defensively. (Which is why its called Combat Medic) Ult would be called "DOC and Load" this makes it so Lifeline pulles out a syringe gun(like the ones to heal health) and allows her to shoot it.(Lets say 3 bullets for now) it has a lock on that can only lock to allies. Once shot by it, it lets them regenerate 75 health overtime. Can also use on self if ult is pressed again while holding it. Can put away and pull out like how vantage can with her sniper. Let me know what you guys think.
All this damage output makes sense to bring all this back to even out game. Destructive rounds are to help keep Rev from being OP this Season. If you get what I’m saying. If you have a problem with Rev your not using those guns as example. Lifeline been getting battered since getting rid of her shield since new characters
Another idea is to keep the same abilities, but make some changes. 1. Tactical: Make her drone follow her, but the healing is lowered. Not much, just a little bit. 2. Revive shield: Add back the revive shield, but make the res animation slower. 3. Care package: make it so it gives you your teammates' death box banners. Once you pick them up, the care package will automatically become a mrb (mobile respawn becon). And make the care package drop slower (5 seconds max) Passive: Give your teammates 1 shield battery, one medkit and 1 pheonex kit when she opens a chest (can only be done once).
(Passive) Make the Rez shield a option by either holding down the heal button and she stays in place or the combat Rez where she can keep fighting. (Tactical) Drone can heal while it's out and follow her but at a slow pace (Ultimate) Change the ultimate to where she can use D.O.C as personal cover and a slow heal zone for 5-7 seconds but continue to fight.
I agree with everything expect her alt. Getting that loot early game so everyone has purple shields and bats Means more killing less looting. Also it’s great cover for open areas and final circles
Considering how much character development she's getting the shield with no healing would also make sense with her ult healing instead since she's becoming more agressive as she spends more time with Maggie
Lifelines ult: give yous loots or revive tm with sheild depend on your sheild for exm if its purple they come in with blue sheild and it also gives all your tm all their ability at 100% and no noise
What they could do is have a multipurpose bot? Where they can cycle the abilities of her drone by pressing a button and the drone can either provide shield , health, or speed up her ultimate by 10% for 6 seconds .
Having her ult act as a mobile respawn beacon would be a fairly good buff that might push her into the meta but wouldn’t be so overpowered as making her necessary for every team to have her. I believe that this would be a good buff for her since she isn’t super powerful anymore. Some of these other options seem very powerful and not very realistic.
The care package is good as is in my opinion, free shield upgrades and gold shield when you and teammates are purple…. And if you’re teammate has been eliminated, you get the respawn beacon too….
The drone is actually sitting on the "balanced" side of the game. The ult rework tho. Thats a good one. Her current ult does almost nothing than give some resources which is also kinda the point of a support loot bin
i am a lifeline main, and i say, she is pretty strong when you use her in the CORRECT way healing and rezzing teammates behind cover being the last of the squad running to a fight DO NOT calling the care package TO A SINGLE AND EASY TO GET, BLUE ARMOR
Maybe when you res your teammates when they get knocked the drone forms a dome that you can only shoot to break following up with killing the knocked player. That will force the enemies to think twice before going for the finish. Maybe the health of the dome shield could depend on wat color knockdown shield you have
Passive drone follows her and heals nearby teamates very slow heal probably octane level tac boost drone output to what it is now or maybe more on a long cooldown 40~ sec remember it still follows her and heals teamates on top of passive heals ultimate is her old revive shield and revives nearby teamates also boosts heal but become stationary (maybe also block enemy movement)
As for her ultimate it would make sense if her 1st care package has a mobile on it and then after that its if your team is already down. Or if it just has their banners already on the ultimate if your team is dead....
I would re work it where her passive is the drone that revives and has a shield and her tactical drone reheals health and gives you bonus health for a short period after a full heal and then her ultimate is her name her and her team are given improved health, faster heals and slow regeneration when close to life line or drone
Apex mobile legend upgrade system would be nice in apex. Bascially as an example caustic had an upgrade; Longer gas grenade duration but it takes to to reach largest radius or Shorter gas grenade durstion but way bigger radius and other legends had all sorts of upgrades
If apex wants to last 20 years it ought to add a trading system and even rarer skin you can get out of packs thats a huge part of counter strikes success
Basically her first ever skills, drone follows her (as long as she doesn’t move fast) and healing while getting shielded. It’s just going backward lmao, but yea lifeline was op back then
I think her ultimate should be where she gives you a boost to where it bumps your base health up but also your movement speed and revives her downed teammates right away and tactical should be the drone has a shield and gives u health
Man these are a thing back in Apex Mobile. Lifeline have a skill tree that have a skill that makes D.O.C follows her, a skill that keep the shield for a short period of time after she res someone and a skill that increase care package loot quality.
They need to do crypto. Make his drone passive let you change the minimap to what the drone can actually see, and maybe a sound cue if someone walks in the field of view
LIFELINE SUGGESTED CHANGES ( i dont mean she gets all of these just ideas ) - AMPLIFIED HEALING) passive able to boost the health given from a syringe from 25 health to 35) - D.O.C ON THE MOVE) able to attach doc (the tactical is called doc) to a waist band on lifeline that heals her while moving only able to heal life line while attached to her, can be used while outside the ring and decreasing the ring damege she takes) -D.O.C OVERDRIVE) when doc heals a teamate that is 25 or under health it will have an exelrated healing time for that teamate) - ONE MAN D.O.C) while D.O.C revives a team mate he will also heal the teammates knockdown health and when D.O.C has fully revived a teamate they will have more health given then a regular revive, when paired with a golden revive it will give the teamate 75% health) ULTIMATE- i really cant of think of anything for this one i mean i had an idea for D.O.C to basically make a circular shield that people can go through but there is no top to it and it basically super healing teammates but that just sounds too strong to me i really need help with this one)
If they add a shield to rez, they need to nerf it so that u have to deploy ur q, and make the res take a bit longer than normal. Not only does this give her drone rez a cool down, it also allows for a somewhat balanced feel with the shield. U can use it as cover like a gibby/newcastle shield WHILE rezzing, so its only fitting if theres a cd/nerf.
I would kinda like it if the carepackage not only acted as a respawn beacon but also is a armory which has smart loot to carry the team, it’s either that or it also provides a crafter so that not only can you craft teammates banners but also res them in the same area.
I got a better idea for her ult. Each side is for a player in your team. If it’s not for you it won’t open, has smart loot. For her passive brink back the shield and make it to auto rez ,keep the combat revive to rez both. Tactical, rework the healing drone to where it’s a faster healing spot. Example: drop your drone it’s like a 2 yard circle around and you and your teammates can heal a bit faster
Imo the care package should act as a huge lifeline drone where it can heal anyone in range but also add 3 rotating shields around it which would help make it viable to play around and place for extra cover.
Make ult take 5 mins to fill, and give it a MRB, and the other 2 sides have your teammates' banners; if you don't have 2 dead teammates, then give smart loot, but +1 loot tier
Well they have the mobile beacons as pick ups easy to snag one lifelines ult could be like the 30 second of a healing drone up that fully charged shield or levels the shield up for the team or some shit like that
Her ult could be a health booster so for 50 or so seconds all players on her team get constant health regenerating decently fast and using syringes and med kits would be slightly faster. It would me much more useful in Mixtape as ults as Loba and lifeline have almost no effect on mixtape.
I think lifeline is already quite good as it is. I think there should be a second character who can heal from a distance with a healing bow or something similar.
Sorta, but keep in mind they probably won't bring her res shield back. Newcastle IS where they put the res shield, lifeline is meant to be a healer who can passive revive people and protect them while they are getting res. Newcastle is the protective one with a shield res and deployable cover both as a temporary tactical AND a permanent one with his ult. It'd be awesome if they brought back the res shield but with Newcastle in the game they never will.
it would be great if we could switch between alt & tactical set ups on revenant. I'll choose the old revenant one match, choose the new revenant the next one .. that would be great if then, all the legends came with two kits to swap between
I think they should make her ultimate like the advanced field upgrades in cod where you press LB AND RB AND THEN LB AGAIN FOR THE LEFT (respawn beacon) OR RB FOR THE RIGHT (care package)
For me with her ult i thought it could be Something similar to vantage & ballistic ult where her ult is a small gun where she has 3 charges similar to Vantage but you shoot it at teammates and can use it herself like doc from rainbow six siege and what it does is it heals a % of missing armor you have Temporarily while also healing you Slightly faster then her doc drone current healing speed but it only heals you once to full health during the ults Duration. And while missing % of a players shield will be gone mabye bout sec 30-40 and it goes based off your shield as well so if you have common 50 extra hp and lose like 25 hp only gives you 25 shield hp Temporary and same if you have red evo and are missing 100 out of 125 shield hp does the same thing but will last a bit longer on her like 50 seconds but it does take a bit of skill because it doesn't auto lock to a friendly player but the Projectile is still big enough to be friendly enough to hit an ally by the shot in intense fights and gives her something for herself if your allies are dead and you are still in a fight
I think lifelines revive drone is strong enough. The healing drone following you sounds good and maybe a better care package. We have enough defense characters. If you want a shield, have a teammate pick rampant or Newcastle
I like how When a Legend gets a complete rework, they get a whole season for themselves. Meanwhile when there's a rework in Overwatch, it's just another Tuesday
I honestly feel like she doesn’t need to be stronger, maybe buff her care package items but anything else would make her op again like when she had the shield rev.
I don’t even play lifeline but I say make her to where her fast heals in back tbh as a passive , make the tactical healing drone move with her and teammates , and as for a ultimate idk tbh what they could do but definitely the care package is out dated when a character like loba exist
The chances of me dying when being revived by Lifeline is way higher than when being revived by Mirage
Obviously lmao, mirage makes you invisible, what's your point?
@@Lucas_Nutsthat the character that's literally called lifeline and the original healing character is getting outclassed by some other non healing legend
@@danylol772 Ah I see it, does make sense. Although they are both support-class now, and lifeline is still a great revival/healer, her counters remain the same, except she's better (balanced) than before if you ask me, being able to revive both teammates and still be free, but still being countered by agressive pushes/AoE damage, her drone heals just fine and allows full recoveries to happen a lot faster. My point saying that "it was obvious" was due to the fact that you have more protection being revived by a mirage than by a lifeline, no matter if lifeline gets her rez shield back, the game changed from that time, you have mad maggie, fuze, valkyrie, vantage, ash, ballistic, horizon, and granades to counter lifeline easily, back then you had at max a bangalore or gibby ult, maybe a crypto, or a lucky old revenant tactical, or a well thrown granade, which also counter mirage but you need more earwork, so what gives?
The only somewhat negative part about lifeline is her ult, if you buff her she becomes unsufferable, if you nerf her she becomes useless, if you rework her...
Could fall either way, depends on what kind of rework, making her drone follow her makes no difference because if you get hit the drone stops healing, and you use the drone to heal teammates looting or already healing shields/recently revived, her old rez shield won't have as much impact because we have newer legends to counter that, you'll just have other legends mains annoyed or get more agressive with pushes, making her ult a respawn beacon is just making it so you don't have to loot support bins or have the luck for a mobby in her package, so what do you think would be best to rework on her? If you read all of this, sorry for the walltext.
Also did not mean any rudeness.
I don't think lifeline's going to get her revive shield when Newcastle already has something similar
Unless their a good lifeline🤕
Make her care pacage like the imc armory where each side of the package has locked items specifically for your loadout.
Yes
Ain't it already smart loot?
@@Flare_Tconly for evo shields and knockdown shields, so no
Ok hear me out. A reward for crypto we're his ultimate take 50 shield and disrupt energy weapons for some seconds. His passive can be scanning the enemy and seeing how much shield health they or u can make it we're he hack the kill leader banners that are across the map. The event could be called crypto unknown error or crypto unknown files.
@@killclip6449it is for weapon attachments too.
I personally think she's fine right now. Not including the ult.
If they were to make the drone follow Lifeline around I think it'd be a bit buggy since it could get stuck on walls and all that stuff.
If they were to change her drone to also display a shield while also healing you, that would honestly just send Newcastle even further down the rabbit hole as he's the second lowest pick rate.
I think the mobile respawn beacon built inside of the care package might actually be cool and a nice change. That way it actually makes sense to use it near endgame. (Instead of only using it just for evo swapping.)
I 100% agree. The main reason someone picks Newcastle is for his tactical and his passive. I think maybe they should allow lifeline to reposition her heal drone, like Newcastle's shield, and I also thing the ult rework would be great. I don't think I've used a lifeline ult since like season 13. I just don't think about it, or I've already got purple shield so there's no reason to broadcast my location
@@dixiestix2197 Repositioning the healing drone is actually a great idea opposed to it just following her around. I think that's better.
Honestly ult should drop a respawn beacon that revives teammates with blue shields and a gun of their choice with no attachments makes killing the people resed via ult harder to kill then just make the ult take forever to charge so your teammates don’t just die on purpose to get guns early
Mate if they did that, her pick rate will lower, there's already a item that does that
@@MrBreadstixs I don't see why it would lower. It's an addon to the ult that doesn't get rid of anything. And I rarely see people carry mobi's anyway so I'm the one that usually has to carry one lol
As a lifeline main this is a win
Same here
I honestly prefer how she is now honestly. The only thing I want changed is her revive and doc drone
Yupppp
@@koolkaleb19same here they gave her a massive buff when they reduce her slowdown revive time movement speed.
This is just doing too much. Her drone follows her with the shield, and it heals you? That’s doing too much…
@@acedubbI think that was supposed to be two separate concepts
It should 100% contain mobile respawn beacon when it drops if a teammate is killed and it should also work as replicator.
I like Lifeline’s current revive system because I like being able to hit the revive and get right back into the fight.
She used to be able to do that with a shield between you and the opponent. Now we got Newcastle 😒
my idea for life lines passive is that she has two versions of it, on one hand, if she does tap rez then it’ll do the normal tap rez, but if she sticks the rez then it’ll be her revive shield
I really like this idea good job!
Wait this is actually a rlly good idea
That’s a good idea. Maybe have it be 5 seconds instead of 7 to make it a viable option
@@kernanmcintyre2928 that’s great actually thanks for the constructive criticism
Ok hear me out. A reward for crypto we're his ultimate take 50 shield and disrupt energy weapons for some seconds. His passive can be scanning the enemy and seeing how much shield health they or u can make it we're he hack the kill leader banners that are across the map. The event could be called crypto unknown error or crypto unknown files.
Imagine calling in a care package with the lifeline ultimate and an unconscious Gibraltar body falls out
It’s crazy how far the games come I remember this in season 5 when there were two maps and less legends
Should Life line drops a healing pylon instead of a care package?
Maybe like Watson's pylon but for health and it puts up a little healing area, or something of the sort.
Also what about crypto?
He's a scary legend when you see him, he's like John wick but scarier
Crypto just needs a Passive because his Current One is just dumb
@@StealthBomber422 I though that too, I think they should just give him a second one because nerolink works well, maybe something small...
Like being slightly faster with pistols?
Or maybe even something big like wall running...
Whatever the case I'm just happy to play crypto.
@@Flare_Tc Well I shouldn't have said it's dumb... it's just outdated.. honestly i really good Passive for him could be he can't be detected by any scans since he is a hacker
@@StealthBomber422maybe like the ghost perk from cod?
Like making him unscannable by most legends and even heat indicators or beacon scans?
I see the idea, I like it.
@@Flare_Tc 👍
meanwhile newcastle praying she doesn't get that😂
12.1% playing rev is craaazy
I miss being able to select my main in peace
For real though😂
real
Its just because he's new, it will drop down pretty soon
@@hillabernidentrumpenshapir4481yea Old rev was way better... personally I will never use him again
@@LoganE01He objectively wasn't he was the second worst character in the game barely better than Mirage
I think one good addition would be, that she can get the cards if the teammates are down, and killed, but at the cost of an item. Like the batteries or the medkit. The drone don't need the shield but it following her around could be a good implement, that when she reaches full health it stops
I like those changes. Instead of a shield I think lifeline should have the fastest revive in the game. 2 or 3 second revives.
still not beating new castle with a golden knock
@@RyanGP1203_MemeLord I'm a Newcastle main but I genuinely think Lifeline takes the cake with the gold knock. The ability to keep shooting while also reviving somebody is insane. Both are good for their own reason.
2 or 3 seconds? Are you insane??
That wouldn't be healthy for the game at all... Literally she would win like 90% of heal games
Also that would be Broken asf
I swear to fucking god if they even lay a finger on octane.
Not a reborn, just a few buffs❤
I mained lifeline for years but shes not the same and id absolutely love if she got reborn ❤️ i hope they do something like this shes such a great character
Crypto needs a rework way sooner than lifeline ever needs one, there's nothing wrong with her kit at all
Nah
The day crypto gets a good rework is the day heirlooms are free
the only rework he needs is being able to move his drone around like vantage's bat, makes him more casual friendly other than that he's more or less just got a high skill ceiling
Woah woah woah hold on a minute. Revenant was reworked because his old kit was so toxic. It was hard to buff him without making him annoying and if you nerfed him, he was just useless. Crypto isnt useless and he isn't toxic. He just needs an actual passive and the ability to move his drone like vantage but a whole rework is outrageous. The only legend that needs to be reworked is Mirage because no matter what good change he gets, hes just always bad. My idea is not a full rework but just change the tactical. His passive and ult is strong enough.
@@Director_Oompaloompa fr fr like update the amount of stuff the decoys can do, climb, say voicelines, shoot guns(gun flashes but no bullets), random shield crack audio when getting bamboozled. Or maybe even being able create a decoy if of Ur teammates if you choose. Probably overkill but if someone gets Bamboozled like right in the face the lil robots that make up the decoy explode and give an effect on U(it's a toss up between a debuffed wattson slow or catalyst blind
-Totally not a mirage main
As a lifeline main, I honestly hope they don't because I don't want her pick rate to skyrocket.
As a lifeline Main myself i agree with this statement
i agree but she does need a rework us lifeline mains need to realize that
I just want the health drone to follow, that's pretty much it lol
I agree but I do see her care package being replaced with a respawn beacon being very viable for her character type
I mained w the revive shield now not so much because the min the opponent hears that they thirst
This is actually probably the best that could go kinda impressed tbh
As a caustic main… crying in gas
Passive : health drone follows her around whilst healing . Allow the same 2 tactical res as is current but provide a shield round player equal to 50% of current knockdown shield health and lasts for 1second after rez completes. (This would allow players at least a "chance" at getting away or back in the fight after rez)
Active : lifeline activates her health bot wherin it defaults to follow mode . Player can toggle between follow mode and sending bot to a static location to heal for duration of active.
Ult : cancels any ongoing combat res or active healing. lifeline sends her bot to mandatory fixed position where after a 2 second delay it overloads sending out a 360 radial burst of energy relative to its position. This slows nearby enemies by 50% for 2 seconds within blast radius and instantly heals team mates within by 125% of current health...this will however disable the use of the bot healing active or for combat res for 20 seconds whilst it reboots.
Please don’t change rampart, I love playing her the way that she is
just buff the paper thin wall
Exciting!
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To keep her combat medic kinda style the drone should def follow you if you’re connected and moving slow enough, if you move too fast or disconnect it’ll stay still.
Her ult could be a home remedy potion types or something, if it hits teammates it heals them but if it hits enemies it does direct health damage.
I feel like this would keep her identity as a combat medic being able to fight and heal but also make her pretty viable. The drone buff to follow you is strong by itself and the only drawback is you can’t move really fast, basic walk speed would be max speed for the drone. The home remedy ult as grenades maybe she gets 3 and they charge overtime similar to bang smoke or vantage sniper shot. Lifeline definitely seems like the experimental type to mix home remedy and modern medicine to make something unique that does the trick. Making a grenade that damages enemies in the puddle left behind but also burns them over time for a short duration would be great for the combat part but also heal enemies and allow downed players to self revive while sitting in the puddle would be great too. Itd be very strong to have that on your team but also the puddle doesn’t provide much of anything so placement is important. Cant throw a puddle out on the open cause the heal won’t be enough to tank shots so you can get the kill, plus if your teammate is trying to self revive out in the open with the puddle they’ll just get killed before that or downed again. On the chance your team is really good at staying alive and attacking then you don’t need heals then you can use ult to help you im the fight
BRO CRYPTO NEEDS IT MORE 😭
Crypto needs a passive and his drone to be quieter
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Truth
Mirage needs it the most
@@kingky9600 All they need to do is the stuff they’re working on now and remove the blinking from his ultimate. Crypto needs so many more changes to his kit to be relevant to anything that isn’t the lore.
I would love this to be a reality, being an old lifeline main I just got bored of her new abilities and found that the manual revive with the old Rez shield was 10x better than the new automatic revive
As a lifeline main, genuinely she really only needs her shield back when reviving and her care package needs some sort of buff or rework. Itd be great if they gave the shield health to balance it out, and only have it on one person if both of your teammates are down. Her care package would be really nice if it worked like the imc armory.
Drone heal with shield is a little broken, the last idea is pretty cool, having a respawn beacon attached to the top of a care package would be great maybe they limit it to one per game
Honestly all she needs is the shield and Care Package Rework and she is good.. just make the shield have a Health Bar Like Newcastles.
When revenant got revamped he completely changed. I'd say if lifeline got revamped shed also have a very different kit as to what she currently has.
Here's my unique take on what I think would be cool
Her passive would be called "Advanced healing" this would allow her to be able to combine 3 small meds of the same kind and turn it into a medkit/Bat depending on the items used. This can be combined in the inventory or if you hold the heals menu open.(idk how optimal it'd be to be honest but i think its a cool niche thing) I say 3 because i feel 2 would be too cheap as she can spawn in game with a free battery and 4 small meds is too much. she'd also still keep her double res with DOC.
Ability would be called "Combat Medic" it would allow DOC to follow and heal you but if enemies are near it'll Also latch on to them and sap HP every other second.(Think of it like caustic gasish without the slow debuff) this can be used offensively since it follows you now and defensively. (Which is why its called Combat Medic)
Ult would be called "DOC and Load" this makes it so Lifeline pulles out a syringe gun(like the ones to heal health) and allows her to shoot it.(Lets say 3 bullets for now) it has a lock on that can only lock to allies. Once shot by it, it lets them regenerate 75 health overtime. Can also use on self if ult is pressed again while holding it. Can put away and pull out like how vantage can with her sniper.
Let me know what you guys think.
All this damage output makes sense to bring all this back to even out game. Destructive rounds are to help keep Rev from being OP this Season. If you get what I’m saying. If you have a problem with Rev your not using those guns as example. Lifeline been getting battered since getting rid of her shield since new characters
Another idea is to keep the same abilities, but make some changes.
1. Tactical: Make her drone follow her, but the healing is lowered. Not much, just a little bit.
2. Revive shield: Add back the revive shield, but make the res animation slower.
3. Care package: make it so it gives you your teammates' death box banners. Once you pick them up, the care package will automatically become a mrb (mobile respawn becon). And make the care package drop slower (5 seconds max)
Passive: Give your teammates 1 shield battery, one medkit and 1 pheonex kit when she opens a chest (can only be done once).
(Passive) Make the Rez shield a option by either holding down the heal button and she stays in place or the combat Rez where she can keep fighting.
(Tactical) Drone can heal while it's out and follow her but at a slow pace
(Ultimate) Change the ultimate to where she can use D.O.C as personal cover and a slow heal zone for 5-7 seconds but continue to fight.
I agree with everything expect her alt. Getting that loot early game so everyone has purple shields and bats Means more killing less looting. Also it’s great cover for open areas and final circles
the tactical and shield with the drone, would make her way to op
Yep, i love all of these ideas. Plus maybe giving teammate banners inside the care package for free once a game
That's not bad. The respawn would be super powerful. And the health drone following you would be amazing
Considering how much character development she's getting the shield with no healing would also make sense with her ult healing instead since she's becoming more agressive as she spends more time with Maggie
Lifelines ult: give yous loots or revive tm with sheild depend on your sheild for exm if its purple they come in with blue sheild and it also gives all your tm all their ability at 100% and no noise
Reddit apex devs had an AMA & I asked who else was getting a re work and they responded with “there are no future plans for any other legend”
What they could do is have a multipurpose bot? Where they can cycle the abilities of her drone by pressing a button and the drone can either provide shield , health, or speed up her ultimate by 10% for 6 seconds .
Having her ult act as a mobile respawn beacon would be a fairly good buff that might push her into the meta but wouldn’t be so overpowered as making her necessary for every team to have her. I believe that this would be a good buff for her since she isn’t super powerful anymore. Some of these other options seem very powerful and not very realistic.
for her ult, make one side smart loot, another side a crafter, and the last side a mobile respawn beacon.
The shield….is a low hit on the coming back but that mobility drone I do believe would be amazing
The care package is good as is in my opinion, free shield upgrades and gold shield when you and teammates are purple…. And if you’re teammate has been eliminated, you get the respawn beacon too….
The drone is actually sitting on the "balanced" side of the game. The ult rework tho. Thats a good one. Her current ult does almost nothing than give some resources which is also kinda the point of a support loot bin
i am a lifeline main, and i say, she is pretty strong when you use her in the CORRECT way
healing and rezzing teammates behind cover
being the last of the squad running to a fight
DO NOT calling the care package TO A SINGLE AND EASY TO GET, BLUE ARMOR
Maybe when you res your teammates when they get knocked the drone forms a dome that you can only shoot to break following up with killing the knocked player. That will force the enemies to think twice before going for the finish. Maybe the health of the dome shield could depend on wat color knockdown shield you have
Passive drone follows her and heals nearby teamates very slow heal probably octane level tac boost drone output to what it is now or maybe more on a long cooldown 40~ sec remember it still follows her and heals teamates on top of passive heals ultimate is her old revive shield and revives nearby teamates also boosts heal but become stationary (maybe also block enemy movement)
I like this where they are keeping the health drone and just a rework where they are not changing the whole kit like revenant
Having the DOC have a shield or first rez a a shield would be dramatic and balanced compared to before
As for her ultimate it would make sense if her 1st care package has a mobile on it and then after that its if your team is already down. Or if it just has their banners already on the ultimate if your team is dead....
I would re work it where her passive is the drone that revives and has a shield and her tactical drone reheals health and gives you bonus health for a short period after a full heal and then her ultimate is her name her and her team are given improved health, faster heals and slow regeneration when close to life line or drone
Apex mobile legend upgrade system would be nice in apex. Bascially as an example caustic had an upgrade;
Longer gas grenade duration but it takes to to reach largest radius
or
Shorter gas grenade durstion but way bigger radius and other legends had all sorts of upgrades
remember when they said they would rework crypto and just came out with a "yeah you can scan people farther with your drone"
the best would be a drone that drag the teamate to cover and they can use the knok down chield
If apex wants to last 20 years it ought to add a trading system and even rarer skin you can get out of packs thats a huge part of counter strikes success
The shield one with the healing drone is basically new castle but with health too.
Basically her first ever skills, drone follows her (as long as she doesn’t move fast) and healing while getting shielded. It’s just going backward lmao, but yea lifeline was op back then
I think her ultimate should be where she gives you a boost to where it bumps your base health up but also your movement speed and revives her downed teammates right away and tactical should be the drone has a shield and gives u health
Man these are a thing back in Apex Mobile. Lifeline have a skill tree that have a skill that makes D.O.C follows her, a skill that keep the shield for a short period of time after she res someone and a skill that increase care package loot quality.
They need to do crypto. Make his drone passive let you change the minimap to what the drone can actually see, and maybe a sound cue if someone walks in the field of view
LIFELINE SUGGESTED CHANGES ( i dont mean she gets all of these just ideas )
- AMPLIFIED HEALING) passive able to boost the health given from a syringe from 25 health to 35)
- D.O.C ON THE MOVE) able to attach doc (the tactical is called doc) to a waist band on lifeline that heals her while moving only able to heal life line while attached to her, can be used while outside the ring and decreasing the ring damege she takes)
-D.O.C OVERDRIVE) when doc heals a teamate that is 25 or under health it will have an exelrated healing time for that teamate)
- ONE MAN D.O.C) while D.O.C revives a team mate he will also heal the teammates knockdown health and when D.O.C has fully revived a teamate they will have more health given then a regular revive, when paired with a golden revive it will give the teamate 75% health)
ULTIMATE- i really cant of think of anything for this one i mean i had an idea for D.O.C to basically make a circular shield that people can go through but there is no top to it and it basically super healing teammates but that just sounds too strong to me i really need help with this one)
If they add a shield to rez, they need to nerf it so that u have to deploy ur q, and make the res take a bit longer than normal. Not only does this give her drone rez a cool down, it also allows for a somewhat balanced feel with the shield. U can use it as cover like a gibby/newcastle shield WHILE rezzing, so its only fitting if theres a cd/nerf.
That’s way to OP either keep the bad últ but have a shield or have good últ and no shield
I would kinda like it if the carepackage not only acted as a respawn beacon but also is a armory which has smart loot to carry the team, it’s either that or it also provides a crafter so that not only can you craft teammates banners but also res them in the same area.
“Shield pops up and heals at the same time.” Bruh Really said replace the replacement (newcastle) with the original.
I got a better idea for her ult. Each side is for a player in your team. If it’s not for you it won’t open, has smart loot. For her passive brink back the shield and make it to auto rez ,keep the combat revive to rez both. Tactical, rework the healing drone to where it’s a faster healing spot. Example: drop your drone it’s like a 2 yard circle around and you and your teammates can heal a bit faster
Lifeline is lowkey cracked already with her drone having no cd between revives
Imo the care package should act as a huge lifeline drone where it can heal anyone in range but also add 3 rotating shields around it which would help make it viable to play around and place for extra cover.
That's doing too much
You guys are never right. The skills are never the same XD
Make ult take 5 mins to fill, and give it a MRB, and the other 2 sides have your teammates' banners; if you don't have 2 dead teammates, then give smart loot, but +1 loot tier
Well they have the mobile beacons as pick ups easy to snag one lifelines ult could be like the 30 second of a healing drone up that fully charged shield or levels the shield up for the team or some shit like that
Some of these would bring me back to her
Her ult could be a health booster so for 50 or so seconds all players on her team get constant health regenerating decently fast and using syringes and med kits would be slightly faster. It would me much more useful in Mixtape as ults as Loba and lifeline have almost no effect on mixtape.
Let the revive shield pulse like the human hart, on/off/on/off. Giving the enemies the chance to do some damage while reviving❤
I think lifeline is already quite good as it is. I think there should be a second character who can heal from a distance with a healing bow or something similar.
Crypto needs the love more. He’s not bad but by no means great
Bringing those shields back would make her just like a version of Newcastle
Sorta, but keep in mind they probably won't bring her res shield back.
Newcastle IS where they put the res shield, lifeline is meant to be a healer who can passive revive people and protect them while they are getting res.
Newcastle is the protective one with a shield res and deployable cover both as a temporary tactical AND a permanent one with his ult.
It'd be awesome if they brought back the res shield but with Newcastle in the game they never will.
no, it's the other way around dude.
it would be great if we could switch between alt & tactical set ups on revenant. I'll choose the old revenant one match, choose the new revenant the next one .. that would be great if then, all the legends came with two kits to swap between
I think they should make her ultimate like the advanced field upgrades in cod where you press LB AND RB AND THEN LB AGAIN FOR THE LEFT (respawn beacon) OR RB FOR THE RIGHT (care package)
Considering what lifeline is going through in the lore becoming more violent and all i could actually see her being the next one to be reborn
Buff cryptos emp damage buff by 25 and his drone life by 40 also make him immune to scans (off the grid).
For me with her ult i thought it could be Something similar to vantage & ballistic ult where her ult is a small gun where she has 3 charges similar to Vantage but you shoot it at teammates and can use it herself like doc from rainbow six siege and what it does is it heals a % of missing armor you have Temporarily while also healing you Slightly faster then her doc drone current healing speed but it only heals you once to full health during the ults Duration. And while missing % of a players shield will be gone mabye bout sec 30-40 and it goes based off your shield as well so if you have common 50 extra hp and lose like 25 hp only gives you 25 shield hp Temporary and same if you have red evo and are missing 100 out of 125 shield hp does the same thing but will last a bit longer on her like 50 seconds but it does take a bit of skill because it doesn't auto lock to a friendly player but the Projectile is still big enough to be friendly enough to hit an ally by the shot in intense fights and gives her something for herself if your allies are dead and you are still in a fight
I think lifelines revive drone is strong enough. The healing drone following you sounds good and maybe a better care package. We have enough defense characters. If you want a shield, have a teammate pick rampant or Newcastle
The Ultimate idea is actually good
Health drone following lifeline is awesome.. I would pick the legend for real. Also her ult should be better
I like how When a Legend gets a complete rework, they get a whole season for themselves. Meanwhile when there's a rework in Overwatch, it's just another Tuesday
I honestly feel like she doesn’t need to be stronger, maybe buff her care package items but anything else would make her op again like when she had the shield rev.
I don’t even play lifeline but I say make her to where her fast heals in back tbh as a passive , make the tactical healing drone move with her and teammates , and as for a ultimate idk tbh what they could do but definitely the care package is out dated when a character like loba exist
20 years is insane lifespan for a shooter
What I think is that if you drop a health drone in a fight and you get knocked right after it should be able to revive you
Her ultimate should be the area of effect heal from the limited time mode where everyone was a dummy
I love the beacon idea
These are actually great ideas
Just one of these suggestions would make her beyond broken.
The only that’s reasonable is the care package being a respawn beacon.
I love all these for lifeline