Great to see 2nd op.( and 3rd and 4th). Not many people cover it that much. I think its even more important. Its hard to teach the concept of model box points vs stock box. And why....... Keep up the good work. I saw stock tranfer and i thought it was a secondary lathe spindle lesson.......ha.
Incredible, very different from how I am used to doing it as long time MasterCAM user. I have lots to learn to transition to Fusion. Thanks for making a great video!
I'd love to know the method used to do this in Mastercam. I'm not familiar enough with that software to know how it is done. Does it seem harder or easier to do in Fusion?
"Continue rest machining" is a great step forward. Used to have to export the body from the simulation to create the stock for the next op, which was a PITA. Nice to see the process demonstrated! FWIW, you forgot to chamfer the hole for the (last) threaded hole....
I didn't forget. I just didn't feel like explaining. Because Fusion uses the tap drill size for threaded holes, you can't just apply your chamfer to that edge of the solid. There is some math that has to be used to get the size of the chamfer you want after the hole is tapped. So I just chose not to do it in the video so I didn't have to explain.
Great video Kevin. Thanks!!! I'll be back to watch it again when I actually do another project. I might actually do more than one this year.....as opposed to the one project in the last 2 years. lol This info will definitely help. :)
Good video Kevin, I got out something else that is also a useful tool out of the video, which is turning on only the setup which you are looking at and automatically turn off the other setups. It helps when you are doing multiple ops on the same fixture and you don’t end up mixing the two parts.
I always wondered how to do this using several setups while maintaining from preceding setups. I tend to get the "Continue Rest Machining: Cannot verify that the stock is transferred from the previous setup for rest machining. Verify that the model selections in both setups are the same." warning. I am assuming the wrong body is being selected. Cannot figure out how to get rid of that warning message. Great video again. Much gratitude
So what’s causing your issue is the body you’re selecting for your body when you’re setting up your “setup” as you go you have to make sure each setup has that same body as its “body”, does that make sense to you?
@ I understand that but I was following Kevin’s example by inserting the same object multiple times for multiple setups and still get the same error. In Kevin’s example he is selecting another instance of the same component without any error. I know I am doing something wrong. I know can I save the first setups last operation as a mesh but I am missing something.
@ I tried several times all resulting the same. I generally don’t have any issues with multiple setups and rest machining from proceeding setup but I would like to have my second and third setup in the vise for more accurate simulation for my machine setup
@@tdg911ok this might mean nothing, but does it matter if he added the components by dragging them or by inserting them VS using a linear pattern from the first body then just flipping the other parts in the orientation needed?
I like how you got rid of the "hat" in op 2 with a 3d adaptive and a face mill but why the .1" radial stock to leave? Thank you for another great video!
Notice that the value I used was negative -.1 radial. I just did some checking and it didn't make a huge difference. I like to make sure the tool is starting outside the stock. The boundary for the tool path is the stock. By setting a negative radial, I was trying to push the tool away at the start a bit by offsetting the boundary -.1 radial. I just did a check with that value set to 0 and the value at -1. I'll list the start values below. 0 Radial Stock: X= -.05445 Y= -3.7152 -1. Radial Stock X= -.12224 Y= -3.70936
I have used the face mill mode with adaptive type selection in 2d face mill under passes it's called chip thinning. Mastercam calls it dynamic face mill.
Kevin, this is exactly what i was looking for. The way i ave been working is more complex. Can you also show the process you used for bringing the parts and vices into the file and jointing them. I noticed the parts are still linked but the vices aren’t. Is this important
You can look at the videos of how I built the parametric vises. I have videos for both fixed jaw and self centering vises on my channel. The component was linked because I had no intention of editing it in that file. By leaving it linked, any change I made to the original would have propagated to the assembly file. The vises had their link broken because they need to have a unique jaw spacing in the assembly file. When linked (and not using configs), you can't have a jaw opening of one value in the original file and a different jaw opening in the assembly file. Breaking the link allows you to control the value in the assembly file.
How did you use joints to move the parts? I have a fixture which is holding 6 parts on a flat bed. I want to create another setup with the parts flipped. But I tried to rotate the stock and it rotates everything. I'll google around about Joints, but any assistance would be appreciated!
I think I have a couple of joints videos on my channel. I'd also be happy to work with you one on one to get your project completed. www.mechanicaladvantage.com/schedule-now
Great to see 2nd op.( and 3rd and 4th). Not many people cover it that much. I think its even more important. Its hard to teach the concept of model box points vs stock box. And why.......
Keep up the good work. I saw stock tranfer and i thought it was a secondary lathe spindle lesson.......ha.
Your explanations make from a "not so obvious" topic a process easy to understand and apply. Appreciated.
Excellent video! I too appreciated seeing the continue rest machining button.
Incredible, very different from how I am used to doing it as long time MasterCAM user. I have lots to learn to transition to Fusion. Thanks for making a great video!
I'd love to know the method used to do this in Mastercam. I'm not familiar enough with that software to know how it is done. Does it seem harder or easier to do in Fusion?
In mastercam I think it's harder. Fusion seems to be easier
"Continue rest machining" is a great step forward. Used to have to export the body from the simulation to create the stock for the next op, which was a PITA. Nice to see the process demonstrated! FWIW, you forgot to chamfer the hole for the (last) threaded hole....
I didn't forget. I just didn't feel like explaining. Because Fusion uses the tap drill size for threaded holes, you can't just apply your chamfer to that edge of the solid. There is some math that has to be used to get the size of the chamfer you want after the hole is tapped. So I just chose not to do it in the video so I didn't have to explain.
@@MechanicalAdvantage or sometimes you can spot drill deep enough so it’s chamfered after drilling and tapping
I used to do the save stock as stl method but use preceding is my standard now.
Great video Kevin. Thanks!!! I'll be back to watch it again when I actually do another project. I might actually do more than one this year.....as opposed to the one project in the last 2 years. lol This info will definitely help. :)
This is great! I have long wished I could use the result of the previous op as the stock for the next op, didn’t realize they supported that!
Hello Kevin, Welcome back, Happy Holidays
Nice one Kev, great to see you back making great content (even if it’s in Banana measurements 😁)
Good video Kevin, I got out something else that is also a useful tool out of the video, which is turning on only the setup which you are looking at and automatically turn off the other setups. It helps when you are doing multiple ops on the same fixture and you don’t end up mixing the two parts.
Great video! Thanks!
I always wondered how to do this using several setups while maintaining from preceding setups. I tend to get the "Continue Rest Machining: Cannot verify that the stock is transferred from the previous setup for rest machining. Verify that the model selections in both setups are the same." warning. I am assuming the wrong body is being selected. Cannot figure out how to get rid of that warning message. Great video again. Much gratitude
So what’s causing your issue is the body you’re selecting for your body when you’re setting up your “setup” as you go you have to make sure each setup has that same body as its “body”, does that make sense to you?
@ I understand that but I was following Kevin’s example by inserting the same object multiple times for multiple setups and still get the same error. In Kevin’s example he is selecting another instance of the same component without any error. I know I am doing something wrong. I know can I save the first setups last operation as a mesh but I am missing something.
@ I will try to replicate it once I’m in front of my computer.
@ I tried several times all resulting the same. I generally don’t have any issues with multiple setups and rest machining from proceeding setup but I would like to have my second and third setup in the vise for more accurate simulation for my machine setup
@@tdg911ok this might mean nothing, but does it matter if he added the components by dragging them or by inserting them VS using a linear pattern from the first body then just flipping the other parts in the orientation needed?
Looking forward to a Heights video. Gives me headaches!
I'm waiting to see heights as well. I need to find a way to think it better
I like how you got rid of the "hat" in op 2 with a 3d adaptive and a face mill but why the .1" radial stock to leave? Thank you for another great video!
Notice that the value I used was negative -.1 radial. I just did some checking and it didn't make a huge difference. I like to make sure the tool is starting outside the stock. The boundary for the tool path is the stock. By setting a negative radial, I was trying to push the tool away at the start a bit by offsetting the boundary -.1 radial.
I just did a check with that value set to 0 and the value at -1. I'll list the start values below.
0 Radial Stock:
X= -.05445
Y= -3.7152
-1. Radial Stock
X= -.12224
Y= -3.70936
@@MechanicalAdvantage Pushing the tool away at the start is a very useful tip even if its a small amount. Thank you!
I have used the face mill mode with adaptive type selection in 2d face mill under passes it's called chip thinning. Mastercam calls it dynamic face mill.
One criticism...... f'ng WOW!
That's it.
Damm... Great video... Thanks :)🤙
Kevin, this is exactly what i was looking for. The way i ave been working is more complex. Can you also show the process you used for bringing the parts and vices into the file and jointing them. I noticed the parts are still linked but the vices aren’t. Is this important
You can look at the videos of how I built the parametric vises. I have videos for both fixed jaw and self centering vises on my channel. The component was linked because I had no intention of editing it in that file. By leaving it linked, any change I made to the original would have propagated to the assembly file. The vises had their link broken because they need to have a unique jaw spacing in the assembly file. When linked (and not using configs), you can't have a jaw opening of one value in the original file and a different jaw opening in the assembly file. Breaking the link allows you to control the value in the assembly file.
Hey could you do a seperate video on workholding and WCS for zero point systems? Appreciate the vids
How did you use joints to move the parts? I have a fixture which is holding 6 parts on a flat bed. I want to create another setup with the parts flipped. But I tried to rotate the stock and it rotates everything. I'll google around about Joints, but any assistance would be appreciated!
I think I have a couple of joints videos on my channel. I'd also be happy to work with you one on one to get your project completed. www.mechanicaladvantage.com/schedule-now