How The Best Aimer In NA Trains - VT Matty [ddk podcast 30]
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this episode, the world's best aimer, Matty_OW, teaches us how he used aim trainers and how you can use them too, to reach your goals.
He recently won the Red Bull Ready Check Aim Tournament and is an aim coach for Voltaic.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
01:30 Experience of Red Bull Ready Check
09:08 Talent in Aiming
10:30 What Matty Discovered When He Started Aim Training
12:50 Matty's Discoveries In His Setup
18:53 Improving Mouse Control By Changing Sens
23:33 Understand Your Aiming Style
27:05 Mouse Grip
29:40 What To Focus On To Improve
31:20 Visual Focus
39:55 How To Select Good Scenarios For Improvement In-Game
41:25 Best Starting Point For Approaching Aim Training
43:40 How Much Training Is Too Much and How Much Is Not Enough (Score Thresholds)
52:00 Minimum Effective Dose Of Aim Training
54:20 Select Tasks For Your Playlist Based On The Game You Play
59:50 Sensitivity - Should It Stay The Same Or Change
1:09:25 Nadeshot's Tweet - Hitting A Wall
1:18:20 Community Question 1: How Do You Train Leading Into Competition
1:20:40 Community Question 2: The Next Goal For Matty
1:24:20 Community Question 3: Wrist Issues
1:27:20 Community Question 4: Posture
1:30:15 Community Question 5: Hard Pads for Tac Shooters
1:32:50 Community Question 6: Future of Aim Competitions
1:35:02 Thoughts On Frustration With Aim Inconsistency
1:37:30 Community Question 7: Distance From Monitor
1:38:45 Community Question 7b: Aiming Ritual
1:40:20 Community Question 7c: Did Reaction Time Improve with Aim Training
1:42:00 Community Question 7d: Words of Encouragement
1:42:40 Plugs
1:44:00 Outro
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Thanks mr ddk for shading light at the small aim community. You are doing god's work here
somethings not right
You can't shade light, my friend.
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@@dlalleman3874 *Shedding Light we get it dood. His letter accuracy is 84.6%
Really bruh. Aim training is God's work lol?
OMG 42:43 LG56 MENTION POG that feels so surreal to me hahaha!
Amazing content as always mr. DDK, as I told you in dm's I am extremely proud and happy that you are covering these topics and educating a lot of people about it! hoping to see more in the future!
Wanted to say thx for everything u r making.
I'm so grateful 🙏 keep it up king.
@@itayraviv2422 aww your welcome friend!
Just incorporated a lot of your scenarios into my aim training routine, really liking them so far!
@@JkennGG aww that's awesome! I hope they help you!
@@Lowgravity56 your scenerios is the best keep making please much love! 😘
Listened to the whole thing, massive props for doing these, it's great to see.
ddk just keeps putting out bangers recently. excited to watch this one
Facts
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Just found this channel and I need to watch everything rn 😂
These episodes are easily some of the best most informative most thought provoking videos on the net. Wp sir
You answered so many questions I’ve wanted to ask an aim coach. Super insightful. Thanks for sharing ❤
Been following matty for years now, he was always willing to answer questions people had and seeing a lot of his thoughts and videos has helped a lot
Ddk, you putting light on such under covered and controversial area of eSports really helps push the understanding and conversations within the general discourse. Been a fan of you since you covered rapha, Jared tendler etc.
i appreciate your work so much ddk keep it up, this community couldnt have used more help
I love you so much for interacting with our great community
We might not be many but we appreciate these podcasts ❤
76:10 matty mentions that he doesn't think learning stops at a certain age, The Huberman Lab Podcast did an excellent episode on learning, where they talked about how the mechanics of learning differ between developing minds and developed minds, worth a watch if people are interesed in the science of learning. Something easy to take away from it though is that it's definitely still possible to learn and improve as you age.
awesome stuff as usual and thanks alot for including my question from X!!!
Broooo…. You are really putting out some bangers! 🫡
Never thought I’d be subbing for aim training podcasts but here we are. Good for you universe. Good. For. You.
Yay. Thank you sir
This is an absolute gold mine for anyone serious about improvement in aim training, thank you for making this happen!!!
I’ve been taking aim training seriously, but this whole “muscle memory is a myth” thing the community keeps saying literally makes zero sense and I’m sorry but the way you guys explain why it’s a myth is so stupid to me. Like yeah aiming is about technique and if you have good technique you can aim on pretty much any sens, but to say muscle memory is a myth is so outrageous
I can turn off my monitor, move my cursor and tell you exactly where my cursor is without even seeing it. In what universe is that not muscle memory?
@@fartinggamer4204 I actually partially agree with this. I think the discrepancy comes from how certain groups of people define "muscle memory" and it's applicable usage to whatever is being discussed. Generally speaking it's to combat the notion that a mouse sensitivity change will significantly reduce your skillset. I appreciate you voicing this concern.
@@IvoGrissomyeah and like I said I’m not trying to be rude or anything, the aiming community is chill. But they really need to explain that better. I think it’s more accurate to say target muscle memory is a myth, because it is literally impossible to have muscle memory for every possible target speed size and location. And I think that’s what aimers are trying to say.
@@fartinggamer4204 i think they are combating the idea that you have to train one sens cause if you switch then your muscle memory will be fucked. In reality you are training mouse control, and switching senses doesn't mean you need to completely rebuild muscle memory for that sens, but just get used to it for a little.
Great episode! Do you think in future videos, you could maybe do a case analysis of players with insane aim in different games? Something like analyzing the aim of players like shroud, rapha, demon1 etc. Great content from you as always
I absolutely love this interviews vids! keep it up man!
Thanks! Will do!
Interview with the 🐐
He's literally him
I was waiting for someone to do this for so long! thx man you got a new sub today
Appreciate you!
Love these podcasts
On a side note, its awesome to hear that 1HP is still doing great work especially after getting help from them myself personally.
OK, das schaue ich mir zu 100 % morgen an. Danke für diesen content.
Great interview again, thanks for this content !
I'd like to say, about reaction time, that indeed it depends a lot on monitor, but even then, there is differences between persons, genetical differences.
The circuitry which goes from eye, eye nerves, brain analysis, brain decision making, arm nerves, and arm muscles contraction can be improved on many of its parts.
The eye/eye nerves part can be improved by looking very fast images, as fast as possible, and trying to see them. This part of the circuit is kinda genetically dependent though.
The brain analysis and decision making part is also improvable, and based in game on enemy movement (hence the advice to look at targets instead of crosshair to read movements). This is less genetically dependent, but is "trained" by time and practice.
The last part, which is triggered when the decision is done and concerns arm/hand action, is the one which for me is more genetically wired, differently from person to person. But this can even be improved too.
The important take is that without training, you will have a default "value" which dictates the parts of this circuit, and training will help improve each one of them to make a fast response possible. On the other interview you did, there was a mention about "prediction" and how it played a role in reaction time, and I kinda agree, but here I'm more talking about "raw" reaction time, the one which is purely physical.
Daniel, I dont even know anymore, just keep going, your not missin one
very insightful matty!
The goat, ty for the content Daniel!
Hell yeah. Glad you are liking it!!
Awesome video!
just raised my sens and busted out a fuckload of high scores thanks matty
Jo nice Video so far! Im just wondering if this whole switching your sens only evolves around getting the most score possibly or is this technique also applied if youre only looking for improving in a specific game and would serve as a way to eliminate the "muscle memory aspect" to get a overal better mouse control wich translate to you getting better/consistent aim in a specific game where you only stick to one sensitivity.
W another aimer interview. 🔥🔥🔥
WOAH THANK U FOR THE CONTENT
listening to that while aim training again
Great episode! Waiting for cartoon :)
Great video
You talk a lot about vision but I haven't heard mentioned yet the fact that moving your eyes makes you blind for a pretty big period of time. Your brain sort of hides it from you, but moving your eyes is as bad as blinking. I generally focus on neither the target nor the crosshair since changing focus is blinking. I just look somewhere near both. Trying to change focus during a gunfight is just crazy to me.
Yea I think this is a very advanced form of aiming but its for sure the main aiming technique that takes you to the next level. Its probably easiest to notice if you are a novice at guitar hero/ddr/osu mania, most new people will frantically be looking directly at each note, but the best people usually play on scrolling speeds so high you can barely read the notes and thats because moving your eyes is such a big disadvantage. Its much better to just keep your eyes still and trust your peripheral vision more.
This is also partly why there tends to be such a big discrepancy in the community about low latency gear. Lots of people think 2-8millisecond of extra latency is impossible to notice, but thats probably because they are wasting time looking at the target before aiming.
Once I got my gear latency low enough it really unlocked this next level of aiming for me where I am able to offload all aiming tasks to the subconscious and using my peripherals more to aim is one of the main advantages of this. The way I would describe the feeling of aiming like this is that it often feels like I am “letting jesus take the wheel”. When I hit a sick shot it feels like an out of body experience because it doesn’t feel like I did anything.
I sit pretty close to the monitor and for the most part my eye movements are for reading things like the minimap/text.
Of course though, there is a lens distortion the further away something is in your peripheral, so you want your general eye placement somewhere near the target preferably somewhere between your crosshair and the target.
@@WARnTEA Any tips for lowering latency?
@@WARnTEAgoated comment. Some of my best flick shots 100% occurred with peripheral focus. Like, my conscious focus catches up to what i just did after it happens. Same thing with my eyes- they move after i get the one tap.
BUT, probably not the best way to aim train all of the time? That's another discussion.
Man its cool
I think something that might help these podcasts is probably having the interviewee stream some private matches or aim trainers and show what they're currently talking about.
Great video, but I am a little puzzled with the advice of “cook jumbo tile frenzy”
goat
34:00 he talks about this "soft vision" I've noticed and started doing something similar, the only difference being he recommended tracking while soft focusing, I just wanted to add my experience with soft vision as a SNIPER one trick in every game, main game being Overwatch, so widow OTP, I found after a long night of gaming when my eyes start to blur and I cant really control it, I decided to try to just let my eyes blur and just shoot the target, some of my best performances are during these times I have "soft vision"
EDIT: just wanted to add, I would focus on some aspect of my hud, that's not my crosshair, everytime I scoped in on my target with said target still in my vision but I'm intentionally trying to not focus on them and focus on something nearby
I THINK IM ON TO SOMETHING: I mean this might be studied and known already, but I've noticed I can really react to fast movement way better with my peripheral vision as opposed to my very pinpoint focus and trying to follow the target with my eyes, I always lag behind, but focusing elsewhere allowed me to just see the movement and stay relaxed
This is awesome. I'm doing a follow-up with minigod soon and might raise this again. Keep me posted on the progress 👍
People will never understand that this guy is actually a god in terms of aim; he's really beyond thousands steps before anyone. I'm glad he's doing ok :)
Basically muscle memory as most people think of it when it comes to aim is a myth, what's true is kill; So for example if you've always been on low sens and switch to high you'll probably play worse just because you haven't developed the skills of making precise movements with your wrist and fingers. But if you learn well rounded mouse control with your arm, wrist and fingers using aim trainers you'll aim relatively the same on a wide range of senses.
the young goat
I didn't know that was called "soft vision" until now. I do the intentional cross-eyed thing all the time to blur stuff out. I had never tried it while aim training before though.
UA-cam finally recommending something good!
Dawwww thank you!
I couldn't AWP at the sensitivity I use. I would have to set up a DPI/Game sens specifically for it. I played around with it on the yprac map to try and increase my kpm, but I've never set anything in stone.
I play CS, I've always maintained that sens is situational and get ridiculed for it :( e.g. riflers can use lower sens, entry fraggers use higher sens, aggressive players can use higher sens, support can use lower sens (easier to line up utility)...etc. there isn't really a rule for it. I switch sens often because of my arm condition, I have the most fun with high sens but sometimes my arm/wrist just can't take the minute movements, so I lower it and slow down my play style as well.
There are valid arguments to sticking with 1 sens forever, but since I'm already used to a wide range of sensitivity, I don't feel like it applies to me since it takes about 30s for me to acclimatize to it.
the thing about changing sens with me is that I don’t know how using a high cm (or different in general) sens in certain scenarios can help me with my usual faster sens on Overwatch or any other game
Ddk x 🐐
TOO MANY W'S DDK I CANT WITH THESE W'S NOOO
1:44:54 144hz 200ms reaction time, 240hz 160ms reaction time, 360hz 135ms reaction time. Very surprised at such a jump from 240hz to 360hz.
"the human eye can't see past 144 hearts" mfs when i hit them with a buckshot: 💀
how does the score thresholds work if your playing a tracking scenario?
are he have a warm up routine or practice routine for valorant?
Can you please do Mr.See You in Dallas?
pleeeeeease try to get cartoon next. this ep and the ep with minigod are fantastic!
Please try to do an aim focused interview with Toxjq or Serious
ok this is epic
Would love to hear some aimer's thoughts on mouse accel. I've been playing with raw accel and really like it.
Its been 2 months but I found that it helps the most when you tailor the curve to your aim style and sens, and you have to change it depending on how good your aim is, so I would only recommend using it if you have hit a wall when it comes to aiming
Goodness, what a banger.
46:30 (bookmark)
W, here from dc
First. Great interview. Found matty's sens on 1:00:00 (35cm) gonna use this and stay on it always.
bro didnt even watch it
@@dark.3148 I am watching it. Matty always gets to the point. I always enjoyed his vods
Matty literally changes sens for every task he plays
he literally changes it all the time, every scenario he has a record in is on a different sesn
@@Perfectlydonebylilache literally stated it himself that he uses 35cm or 35-40cm range in overwatch due to the fact that he likes to play aggressive with characters like soldier
what would be good routine for csgo aiming?
So for Apex legends what sensitivity he will be using ?
What studies have been done on muscle memory? I have no preference for either camp but would like facts rather than feelings.
This thing about mouse sens is good for people to hear about im a cs player when i started playing cs i had 800dpi 2.3 sens and was good with the high sens then everyone said you should lower your sens to atleast 400dpi 2-2.5 sens so i tried that and i couldnt hit anything for 2 weeks after a while my wrist started cramping so i bumped the sens up to 3 and later on i swiched back to higher sens at 3.8 now i play with 1600dpi 1 sens but i figured i can pick any sens from 2.0 - 4.6 with 400dpi and it takes about 5 min to adapt some days when i feel shaky in my aim i play witv lower sens and when im rested i play in the higher spectrum i just love highher sens cause it makes movement reaction shots tracking so much easier
I'd just switch to full arm aiming instead of only aiming with your wrist tbh
@@omegaPhix im used to highsens i play quake more then cs 400dpi 3.6 -4. Sens is the sweetspot for me
@@ConcreteKingzOG Being used to high sense doesn't mean that you could perform way better on low sense (like most people)
@@omegaPhixmaby but i had same sens since first counterstrike 1.0 to 1.6 to csgo to cs2
What mouse skates do you use on your glass pad?
Just the stock ptfe feet on the fm ultralight atm
omg 2h nice
ddk are you ever going to age, man?
Genetics absolutely make a difference. In general the faster someone can read the greater their potential to aim. And I mean read every single word, not some speed reading techniques.
34.02 sound like here describing the quiet eye
i listened to this while training lol
literally aim training while watching
Interview Viscose, MadBadMan, Killuminati
matty's true gaming beginning was minecraft
VT Matty you're a legend but can i recommend you get a decent mic? 😂🥰
I love you Matty. You're so cute and dedicated~
Now if only he could play well in arena shooters 😎
DDk I was in need to ask you about sens randomizer inside aimlab. thanks to this podcast i remembered it
"Gravity, do you now how to configure the sens randomizer to work in one range like 20-100cm/360... ? because it feels like i'm playing in 4cm/360 sometimes"
Gravity answered he never used it and I looked at reddit but still no answers
i dont understand wwwich fov i have to use in kovakks for cs2. i play 16/9
Don't mess around with the fov, since you can't change it in cs
just use overwatch 103 but cs would be overwatch 106 fov
I using 60cm to 360 in valorant, 90 for r6 siege on 1x and 80cm for1.5x. I using diferent sens for everything even in a same game in r6 i have close to 70% hs rate in valorant i have 38% i think im on the right way.. I using aimlab tu practice aiming and I using sensitivity dipend wich gsme I play that day. And if i play more then 1 ggame i warm up on that sens before i switch game. All game i on a high elo
It's nice to hear matty say that there's not really a talent or genetic difference. It's hard being just some dude trying to argue those points. The more research I do the less I believe in genetics/talent playing a role in gaming, but everyone believes the dogma.
He doesn't know it all. With training you will obviously be better, but there's people who will still beat you with less training, that's just life. There has to be a talent component.
They should’ve made the aim trainer mains play valorant against the pros after. That would’ve been interesting.
it wouldn’t at all most aim trainer mains don’t even play fps games
What is importand in aim training. Experiment with what works for you.
i was changing my sens all the time and it helped me imensely. My friend tryed it as well and he is way better with one sense. Also obviously grip is importand but most likely the way you grip is okay. Sometimes uncomfortable can be better but not more consistent. Same for weight and Speed of your periverals.
The Hunter/Gatherer thing was wrong since Women were Hunters as well and man were staying in camp as well. The famous wall paintings are made by Man and Woman as well. Just a bunch of misinformation about evoluten out there.
32:20 Look at target
My aim coaching experience is significantly smaller than Matty's but i kinda disagree with setting expectations of ~30 days to start seeing real improvements in a players main game. I know he was more saying how different players will take different amounts of time and to not be discouraged if you dont see instant progress but in my experience the noticeable progress comes really fast. Just doing gridshot for a week wont do much of course but if an individual is properly focusing and training correctly the 1-2 week range seems to be when real results are shown. If someone hasnt properly aim trained before it really doesnt take much time/effort to start improving. For example if someone has never properly tried to learn piano and just messed around with one before, the amount of gains seen after a week or two of proper focused practice will be quite large. Specifically with fps games the confidence you gain alone will lead to better results in the server rapidly even with relatively minimal increases in mouse control.
If you already have good mouse control you wont be seeing much ingame results in the first 2 weeks of aim training.
@@tragedy8365 yeah but the population of people with good mouse control who haven't aim trained is a minority.
i guess it would depend on the game. For example in csgo, there were loads of workshop maps that the population used before aim trainers became mainstream
@@LimabeanStudios
Bro idk what lens you got on your webcam but change it, fam.
If u hold down ur left click the video speeds up
best aimer in the world*
Can you share your thoughts on mouse acceleration?
Bars natural improvement in general + it already exists depending on the amount of input you put into your mouse.
@1:41:00 ish - I mean there's just mathematically no way what Matty is saying is true. The difference between 144hz, 240hz, and 360hz is literally just a couple milliseconds. So if his reaction time before was 0.200 seconds at 144hz (0.007s per frame) , mathematically if nothing else changed then on 360 hz (0.002s per frame) he would only improve to 0.195 seconds
You can absolutely see improvement within 30 days from my experience.
You should have tox or serious on to talk about aim!
I'd like to do a comment about the "mouse grip" part, when Matty_OW says that when you naturally put your hand on the mouse you can build from there and take it as a default grip.
For me, and probably for other people, there is a "relaxed" grip, and a "tense grip" some sort of. The relaxed grip is when I use my mouse for everyday tasks, like when I'm programming or just browing the internet and stuff. The "tense" grip, is the one I use for when I'm gaming and need to be fully involved in my mouse actions.
In my opinion, the main thing to consider is not much about having a relaxed grip when gaming, but more about having the grip that enables you (without hurting your tendons etc) to perform the most mouse movements in the quickest way. You obviously need "left-right" movement to be smooth and/or fast, but then you also need verticality. You often need to be able to pixel aim AND be able to do at least 180° turns instantly. This kind of range of movements is not really possible with a default "relaxed" grip, imo.
I could compare this to table tennis and the grip of your paddle : if you were just to hold the paddle without playing, because you are moving from one spot to the other, or you may want to point to something with the paddle, you would just pick it into your hand normally. But when it's time for hard focusing and gaming, there are traditionnal grips that you must use in order to perform all the required moves that you need to do with the paddle for returning a top spin or serving etc. That's the difference I'm mentionning between "relaxed" and "tense" grips.
Hyperx headset mic sounds like a chainsaw.
An Interview with God (2023)
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34:00 dude started talking about this and immediately remembered he lives in current year where you can get crucified for it
Maybe i didn't look when you made that tea but when this teabag was in the cup for 25ish minutes you sadly need to be punished for it
Agree, lol. When I'm in a rush making the tea I often end up keeping it in. I always forget to bring a saucer for the teabag!
This whole “muscle memory is a myth” thing is so confusing to me. I get what they are saying, yeah having good technique means you can run any sens. But at the same time it’s kind of baffling to just flat out say it’s a myth. If you use the same sensitivity for years on end, you will learn exactly how far your mouse will move if you do something. Like imagine you have used the exact same mouse and sensitivity. Your cursor is in the middle of your screen. You turn your monitor off, then you move the mouse. You point to where you think the Cursor is, then you turn back on your monitor and it’s right where you pointed. How is that not muscle memory? Then do the same thing with a completely different sensitivity and try to guess exactly where you moved the cursor. It makes sense to say muscle memory does not equal good aim, but saying it’s not real is just baseless nonsense and it seems like the aim community say it just to be quirky.
Its still being done by the brain its not like its engrained in the muscles. Are people really saying it doesn't exist at all
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