LIRR Budd M3 RFW train
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2024
- We take an exhilarating ride on a classic Budd M3 with its patented “Railfan Window” on an express train between Babylon and Penn Station NYC. All stations, interlockings, signal indications, and most passing trains are identified. Additional items of knowledge are posted in graphics. This is the first time I ever did a complete RFW ride on my home line between Babylon and Penn Station.
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When I used to live in North Babylon, my usual Saturday shopping trip into NYC was to drive to Forest Hills and take the E/F subway. But if I didn't feel like driving, I'd take the Babylon Express, usually stopping only at Freeport, Jamaica and Woodside. We went 80 most of the way and the whole trip took just over 50 minutes. But your train went faster thru Sunnyside than the trains I usually rode.
Sunnyside/Harold Interlocking is usually 60mph unless ACSES/ATC is handing out speed restrictions due to congestion on the line. LIRR changes signaling types from ATC only to ACSES/ATC where Port Washington branch joins up as that is shortly before the point where the LIRR main line joins the NEC main line.
Love the front view videos, always great background noise when I’m working on something or gaming. I hope you get a chance to do a front view on the New Haven Line, I’ve never seen what that route looks like!
It’s hard to do that due to the type of equipment they run. I like to get the best head end rides possible and the M3‘s help me to do that.
@@3985uprrdid the M2s also have a RFW?
Great detailed views of LIRR's Babylon Branch Line ("Babylon" to "Hall") and Main Line ("Jay" to "Harold").
Liked the video. I grew up in North Babylon and my parents grew up in Bellmore.
A delight to watch 😀😀
Excellent work, as always.
Thanks again!
Great detailed ride on Babylon - NYP express. Thanks Tim💚👌
Excellent video, have me reminiscing again. Haven't rode the Babylon branch since 2018. Looking forward to riding the new M9's this summer. I commented earlier in reference to coffee factory that was adjacent to, what is now reminisce of Old St. Albans freightyard..."Tell'n on my Age"....back in the day while riding on the old orange & gray MU's...If the wind was blowing right, you could catch the Heavenly arroma of roasting coffee beans....Miss those days....😅
By any chance was that where Chock-Full-of Nuts brewed?
@@eottoe2001 I grew up in that neighborhood, that coffee bean processing factory was near where, Sayers Ave & Murdock Ave. St. Albans dead ended at tracks. If memory serves me correctly...The remnants of structure, I believe is that storage facility, tallest building in the area.
Any kid that grew up in that area, would definitely know. Traveling eastbound on Liberty Ave, you'd hook a right just prior to LIRR overhead track. Almost positive thats where the Chock-Full-Of-Nuts plant was located...☆
We took the Ethan Allen down to NYP on Saturday, and back on Monday. It was all I could do not to catch the Local to Amityville for supper at Peter's Diner! But sometimes we do what our family expects...
I love this branch and it’s great to see from this perspective after a long while. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, as always, for a great video. The details were really helpful.
Thousands of years ago when I rode the Babylon to Penn run it took about an hour. Now, thanks to improvements in technology it takes
Oh.
I rode a local that took an hour for that run. Engineer ran train to the maximum. Multiple stops west of Jamaica and extra time built in schedule Babylon to Freeport slowed this train down. I’ve heard the run done under optimum conditions in 48 minutes roughly.
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@@3985uprrYeah engineer seemed to be mostly cruising along at 60ish not 80 on this trip. If he was going 80 I suspect he'd probably be chasing reds once he caught up to whichever local is ahead of him.
Great video
Great trip, brought back memories when I road from Lindenhurst to Penn back from May 2017 until June 2018 (when my job in NYC was terminated). That siding in Massapequa has been there since 2017, although I don't know when it was put in service.
Late 2022 I think
AWESOME RIDE. Thank You👍🔥🔥🙏
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you so much for this great virtual ride, Tim - so grateful for you.
My pleasure!
I did a M3A ride to Mt.Pleasant and it was pretty cool to see the rear back window all the way.
Thank you for a well done video!
I find it interesting that this train makes its first stop all the way at Freeport and goes straight to Jamaica afterwards.
New subscriber here! I love these point a to point be destination video, especially on trains!! I also like how a good portion of your videos take place in the Hudson Valley 😉
Thanks. Love LIRR. Thanks for calling out the signals.
Love your videos great job
The branch I grew up with in my childhood! I actually ran in one day on my feet from Babylon to Valley Stream (about 20 miles)! When those elevators go into service, all of the Babylon Branch stations will be ADA compliant. St. Albans, Laurelton, and Locust Manor will have elevators installed, and the elevators at Valley Stream and Auburndale will be replaced this year.
Babylon (9/9/1964 and was always ADA compliant).
Lindenhurst-Copiague-Amityville (8/7/1973, wouldn't become ADA compliant until 2024).
Massapequa Park (12/13/1980, wouldn't become ADA compliant until 2024).
Massapequa (1/1953, ADA compliant since at least 1966).
Seaford-Wantagh (10/22/1968, Seaford became ADA compliant in 2009, Wantagh in 2018).
Bellmore-Merrick (6/28/1975, Bellmore became ADA compliant in 2000, Merrick in 1999).
Freeport (10/11/1960 and was always ADA compliant).
Baldwin (10/2/1957 and always ADA compliant).
Rockville Centre (7/17-7/18/1950 and was always ADA compliant).
Great list
@@3985uprr The dates are when their elevated stations went into service. When the M1s came out the following stations were still at grade level: Lindenhurst, Copiague, Amityville, Massapequa Park, Bellmore, and Merrick.
Thanks for a very interesting video.
Jamaica Station reminds me of Clapham Junction and Stratford in London though the city has about 6 other Jamaica like stations.
The trains reminds me of the old Network Rail Class 313 and 315 trains.
Kew Gardens station looks completely different to the Kew Gardens station in London. 😄
I would say that you are from the UK. I never saw the Kew Gardehs station there.
they're gonna close line 2 tunnel for two years starting this summer to do extensive repairs so line 4 might get regular Amtrak and NJ transit (yard move) traffic for a while in addition to LIRR.
That’s gonna get real busy. They will have to run west on Line 1 to access tracks 5-15. Lines 3/4 can’t get trains over to those tracks.
Does the Pennsylvania have coach on both ends of the train? I have to try a rear end ride. Hopefully the crew won’t give me any trouble standing back there.
@@3985uprr the other end is a baggage car. coach is only on the back between Philly and Pittsburgh but I've only recorded as far as Harrisburg
@@3985uprr no baggage is at the front west of philly and business is behind that. on the NEC it's reversed so coach is behind the engine and baggage car is at the back. one of these days I'm gonna do business class and record rear views of the corridor hopefully from DC to Boston. I should also note that I've done rear-view rides on the Pennsylvanian 3 times without any trouble. I can't say the same about Vermonter or Northeast Regional, which I have tried with a coach ticket and wasn't allowed which is why no Northeast Corridor rear views have appeared on my channel yet. but yeah Pennsylvanian is quite reliable and maybe one of these days I'll do a Philly or Harrisburg to Pittsburgh rear view. I just filmed a 7 hour rear-view ride on the southwest chief through New Mexico so it won't be unprecedented.
@@nathanjiang100 sounds like I need to do a Philadelphia Harrisburg trip on that. Which trains on the corridor have coach in the rear
If you look to the right at 5:05 to 5:08. There are a couple of NYC streetlight standards known as Deskey poles in that Lindenhurst LIRR Station parking area. Notice the looped shaped streetlights. These were very common in NYC in the mid 1950's to the late 1980's. There are a few left in NYC still. Donald Desky poles.
They are re-erecting the wooden light poles on the parkways near the ocean like what I grew up with. They are cool looking. Very nostalgic.
@3985uprr The woodies parkway lights from the 1940's era. That is great to hear them coming back!!! Wish they would come back on the Robert Moses "State Parkways".
Notes about a couple of stops on this route:
Lindenhurst: Birthplace of game show host and producer Jack Barry (The Joker's Wild, etc.).
Baldwin: Birthplace of "GE College Bowl" host Robert Earle.
Didn’t know that about Jack Barry and I’ve only lived here for almost 70 years
Tim, I would love to know more about that running track (and old LIRR cars) west of St. Albans... Ill have to watch the old runs of this as well for more info ! :)
There are 2 yellow Osgoode Bradley former passenger cars on the lower right after St Albans. They were former B&M cars the LIRR ran in service years ago. They became some kind of MOW equipment. I wish they would remove those. They are an eyesore.
Those old ex Boston and Maine coaches are part of Railroad history. They should restore both of them back one to Long Island colors and the other back in Boston and Maine colors.
Track speed posted in the LLC if you see it on your GPS would be interesting. Funky WX at the end. Thanks for the ride.
I see myself at 27:29 railfanning!
I remember Amityville station as a child in the late 70s and early 80s. I passed it every day going to school. I also remember the Greyhound bus station at Masaspequa Park .
thanks for the video! is it possible in the future to see an amtrak rear view from dc to ney york?
Providing the rear car is a coach, and I don’t have to pay an arm and a leg for business class
Since you were able to get a bird's eye view of the scene, you might as well call the Long Island Rail Road workers "The Long Island Best People Around."
36:19 Would you do a video about all of the construction at the mouth of the Atlantic Branch underpass tunnels ? What's it all about ? What about the Brooklyn to Far Rockaway
routing ? There is a new platform on the south side of Jamaica Station, which is pretty mysterious to me, and extremely intriguing.
49:48 The wires on the right are up for the Amtrak Manhattan bound bypass.
50:36 Amtrak underpass on right, and
50:44 on left after going under our track.
53:28 Why did the North River (Hudson) tunnels get so damaged during Hurricane Sandy, but the 4 LIRR tunnels don't seem hurt at all ?? Someone must have really 'f---ed up majorly on the 2 Hudson Tunnels. The tunnels started moving around almost as soon as they were made; I think that they weren't built deeply enough; they will float to the top of the river like a boat, if not weighed down ! The Pennsy civil engineer had his concerns from the get go.
WOULD YOU HIGHLIGHT AND MAKE DEDICATED VIDEOS ABOUT CONSTRUCTION SITES ON THESE RAILWAYS ??? Pretty please ?
Thank you for the notations, and descriptions of the signals.
Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
Well Done!. Thanks.
Thank you too!
This movie is my favorite of all railroad shows. All I need is to play the instrumental part of "Speedo" by the Cadillacs to add more excitement. Then it would put me on a natural high as though I was there. This movie is one of a kind!⭐
I have made many similar videos like this, including on other railroads.
@@3985uprrHere is a tidbit: I used to capture thrills on the New York City Subway express trains. I rode between the cars to hear the sound of the wheels rolling over the rail joints and the motors hollering. My high began when I would see the stations get skipped at high speed. Wow! What a thrill! I began to sing my own kind of "rap" songs about the electrical and air brake equipment beneath the subway cars. I began getting this high in 1967 while I was in junior high school. You may think that I was quite a subway fan as well as a subway buff. Thank you for typing to me.
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Hi Tim, nice video!!! I sometimes ride the LIRR Port Washington Branch, but that line doesn’t seem to use M3s anymore since LIRR service to Grand Central Terminal began. The LIRR M3s can’t go there because they’re not powerful enough to go there?? Anyway I met you back on October 1st at the Hoboken Heritage festival. I was the guy with the white NS shirt on. And On this day I did some joy riding on the subway on the A, C, R, 4, 6, and 7 trains.
I remember you. Hope you are well
@@3985uprrYes thanks, hope you are well yourself. I am well.
What exactly are the construction works for currently taking place in and around Jamaica? I can tell part of the works are for bridge replacement/rehab over the Van Wyck, but are there signal (or any other) upgrades taking place as well?
I think they’re trying to build a flyover over the Atlantic branch connection east of Jamaica station
Are you a fan of this change they made to these trains that made them nonstop Babylon to Freeport then Jamaica?
It’s bittersweet because there’s too much time in the schedule and they don’t go track speed between Babylon and Freeport. Eastbound they might go fast if there’s nobody ahead of it.
I'll never understand why the City of Philadelphia Market Frankford is wide gauge at 5' 8 1/2" instead of standard gauge as the Broad Street Line. PRT or PTC should have made all Elevated Subway lines standard gauge at 4' 8 1/2"
Mfl was constructed first in the 1820s and the Bsl in the 1930s.
I know in the Yonkers Metro-North Station area from the train you can see a few double guywire mastarm traffic light standards like NYC has around that area.
Acela Spotting 50:26 🎉
I missed it while shooting.
Looks Okay To Me
I should hope so. I try to satisfy my viewers.
Any chance of sweet talking an engineer heading to/from GCT into running the front open so you could get a video of GCT? I'm not sure if LIRR engineers are allowed to button up and open access to the front section on the M7s and M9s.
I was able to do one last year. ua-cam.com/video/yk8fysALmiU/v-deo.htmlsi=dm5mgz-9BZ_kVz0S
Question: After passing St. Albans station before curve towards Hall, that tall storage building, is that where the old coffee factory use to be....???
Not sure
Think it was still in operation during the early 70's.."Chock full of Nuts" coffee perhaps. Just before the Brickyard flyover. At that location of LIRR track, I believe was the St. Albans/Hollis borders...???
You love taking these videos; I Love watching them!!!! GREAT VIDEO as always!!!!! ALL narrative & on-screen details Greatly Appreciated!!!! Are any of those towers seen along this route still manned? Haven't been any full-time manned towers in MI for years now!!
No, they are all taken over by the Jamaica control center
Third Rail Speed 🚄🚅
I saw concrete ties sitting loose at Kew Gardens. Are they replacing the old ties on this or other lines soon?
Might have been replaced
I scratch my head and wonder why stop at Freeport?
They’ve been doing that for years. It’s a good central location that serves a number of communities.
It also looks to have a lot of available parking.
2:04 I've never seen that trolley before. Do passengers get access?
What is the construction occurring just prior to Jamaica?
They are building a flyover off tracks 4/5 to allow for more faster, departures and less conflicting movement delays
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Eazy Does It
Just curious. On these express LIRR trains about how fast do they normally go?
They can do 80 on this line
Thank you sir!!@@3985uprr
Is that line use third rail for electricity?
Yes
There is no reason that these off peak trains should be skipping the stations that were always express stations. All this new schedule does is decrease service at the stations that have been dropped. It’s 3 more stops at busy stations, with the exact same scheduled running time with or without the stops. Make the stops 🤦♀️
Slow expresses. They are trying to serve the busier stations, but at not much faster schedule. that seems to be the trend of commuter railroad these days so they can increase on time performance.