It really is an interesting matchup and I totally understood what Toast was looking to do. If he had Hakkar, Innervate, and Spellstone early enough. He would have just not done anything until the opponent was in fatigue. If it is Mecha'thun, Hakkar flat out counters it. If it was Hakkar, his hand would just destroy the blood by being full. But to make proper use of his own Hakkar really takes some thought. Conditions that would need to be met is that he would still be able to draw at least one card and that his opponent would not be able to mill the bloods. The primary plan still comes to performing lethal if capable which he did. So quite literally, Druid vs. Druid is a matchup where you actually want to draw less. Edit: Also wanted to apply one last note to anybody that does end up in this type of matchup. If you happen to be against a Hakkar deck, be sure you are able to receive King's Ransom. Put simply you should always try to stay at 9 cards because otherwise you have to hope he will have 10 cards for your Toggwaggle to switch him back to fatigue.
Had the other druid run a silence card, he could have silenced Toast's Hakkar preventing the combo from working. Beyond that, he could have killed Toasts Hakkar early and forced Toast to draw making him run the risk of dying. Or, He could have just kept nine cards in his hand, preventing the Toggwaggle, and keeping Toast from being able to build a big swap deck.
Well there was no swapping back hands, he was dead the first turn he got the chance to. Plus togwaggle made it so that toast didn't need to worry about building up his own bloods unless it kills him in one turn, which really wasn't possible. This game did lack counterplay but it wasn't really Hearthstone's fault, its a just a deck hitting a hard counter. Silence would've done it though ha @@TheHappyReaper
@@NotDrurin The way Tog works, it adds a ransom card to your hand when its played. So, if you keep your hand at nine cards, Tog gets played, setting your hand to 10, making it so you don't draw cards, just burn them. Which destroys all the corrupted blood in the traded deck.
It was still a lost fight, toast empties his deck, naturalizes to fill their hand, and trades decks. At that point he could drop Hakkar and they have to either let it smorc or die to bloods.@@TheHappyReaper
I was going to suggest limited draw to reduce the risk of milling Hakkar & reduce the risk from your own corrupted bloods but I guess in a mirror this would leave you open to an OTK Togwaggle turn. Smart play Toast
TheRebornPheonix Sorry for the unclarity. I meant when the opponent is playing mecha’thun, your win condition is the hakkar which is a single card and therefore you would need to draw it. In the hakkar vs hakkar matchup however, it is an advantage if your opponent runs out of cards first as you save yourself 8 mana on switching decks.
5:22 is the better play to barkskin the acolyte and mill more? Get at least 2 extra mills off the acolyte since pyro will tick 3 times (he has earthen scales) and you have hero power. Thats 4. Trade auctioneer. 5 up from 3.
Toast, you should make an odd, discard, cubelock. Maybe through in an otk just for fun. Yes, I know it's a terrible idea, that's why it's a great idea. Think of the memes.
I think the developers obviously want people to focus on having more than one or two good cards in their decks and make the dusting process like selling gold for pennies to make people pay up
Yep, it turns out you don't need to get rid of the Corrupted Bloods in your own deck (which you stole) because your opponent is already dead from drawing one time from a deck filled with only Corrupted Bloods.
@@MrSyous13 its damage->draw->shuffle 2 and the previous effects must "resolve" to continue. So if you have 2 bloods in deck (and no other cards) you will draw for turn and draw a blood. You will take the damage and draw a card. The card drawn will trigger if possible since we are still in the "draw" section (in this case it will). You draw the second blood. Take another 3. That blood will now draw you a card which in this scenario is a fatigue card (so you now take the fatigue damage). Now that no other effects are taking place the first blood card will finish by shuffling in 2 bloods. Then the second copy will shuffle in 2 leaving you with 4 bloods in deck and your fatigue count going up by 1 (which it would have anyway since your deck was empty). Hearthstone has a very.....archaic system where it doesn't constantly check for changes and such until EVERY card in a "chain" resolves. Thats why I'm 99% sure if you have Bolf Ramshield on board and 50 bloods in deck you will take zero damage from drawing a card (and shuffle 50 more bloods in) since the game is going to wait until ALL the bloods resolve before checking to see if Bolf died and before shuffling in the 2x bloods.
I see. So that fact that he kept drawing after the fatigue was because of auctioneer. So In this case it was draw (auctioneer) then cycled through all the bloods, fatigue, then draw again (auctioneer again) and so on
@@DharkDemonBlade well, I guess. I hope so. But doing clickbait "ironically" does not mean you are using clickbait any less than people who are doing it "unironically", and you still get the full benefit of views either way. If he was only doing it to annoy haters I don't think he would consistently use the full clickbait package (you know, also using the exaggerated reaction as thumbnail) on literally every video. So I think he's possibly worse than other clickbaiters if he does claim to do it to annoy haters, because then he's not just doing something shitty, he's doing something shitty and also being a bitch and refusing to own up to it. I really like toast and the clickbait doesn't really bother me, though oddly it would bother me a lot more if he pretended that he uses clickbait only as a joke.
Toast's IQ is so high he just casually invents a new branch of quantum mechanics. You got two sides, good and evil, but there's a time where both sides are both good and evil at the same time. And only once you as the observer pick a side do you really know which is good and which isn't. You know, the whole cat in the box thing. Shits deep yo.
I have the utter respect for you as a player and druid as a class to be still viable after those nerfs, but dam even thou I have both Hackar and Togwaggle, there is no chance I would play this even thou it looks fun, but I'm playing to have fun, not to solve math problems...
enough with the 200 IQ title to this game. its a card game that 6 yr old play. 200IQ has nothing to do with it at all. All your doing is devaluing real intelligence, and encouraging gamers to think they are doing something special, when all it is is a video game. Toast, get a hold of yourself man, its not rocket science.
Really? A six year could calculate that he would need to keep his Auctioneer alive so that he could shuffle extra Corrupted Bloods into his own deck before giving it to his opponent? What kind of genius daycare do you work at?
4 burns out of 11 cards. My Hakkar would be burned right there, really...
For sure, it would be the first to be burned... It's always like that
Pro player RNG right there boiz
I'd open the pack and it'd be burned before I even had a chance to click ok
Hakkar is just like Mecha'thun but with extra steps.
But it also counters other Mecha'thun decks
That just sound like slavery, with extra steps!
It's cooler also :^)
@@ekplectic4572 Mecha'thun cant trigger if you have cards in your deck which Hakkar generates
@@safwanhoque641 Only Mecha'thun deck that could defeat Hakkar is Togwaggle Azzari Mecha'thun deck. LUL
It really is an interesting matchup and I totally understood what Toast was looking to do. If he had Hakkar, Innervate, and Spellstone early enough. He would have just not done anything until the opponent was in fatigue. If it is Mecha'thun, Hakkar flat out counters it. If it was Hakkar, his hand would just destroy the blood by being full. But to make proper use of his own Hakkar really takes some thought. Conditions that would need to be met is that he would still be able to draw at least one card and that his opponent would not be able to mill the bloods. The primary plan still comes to performing lethal if capable which he did. So quite literally, Druid vs. Druid is a matchup where you actually want to draw less.
Edit: Also wanted to apply one last note to anybody that does end up in this type of matchup. If you happen to be against a Hakkar deck, be sure you are able to receive King's Ransom. Put simply you should always try to stay at 9 cards because otherwise you have to hope he will have 10 cards for your Toggwaggle to switch him back to fatigue.
So much counterplay. Fun. Interactive.
Had the other druid run a silence card, he could have silenced Toast's Hakkar preventing the combo from working. Beyond that, he could have killed Toasts Hakkar early and forced Toast to draw making him run the risk of dying. Or, He could have just kept nine cards in his hand, preventing the Toggwaggle, and keeping Toast from being able to build a big swap deck.
Well there was no swapping back hands, he was dead the first turn he got the chance to. Plus togwaggle made it so that toast didn't need to worry about building up his own bloods unless it kills him in one turn, which really wasn't possible. This game did lack counterplay but it wasn't really Hearthstone's fault, its a just a deck hitting a hard counter. Silence would've done it though ha @@TheHappyReaper
ever herd of exodia mage? (the old one with ice block)
@@NotDrurin The way Tog works, it adds a ransom card to your hand when its played. So, if you keep your hand at nine cards, Tog gets played, setting your hand to 10, making it so you don't draw cards, just burn them. Which destroys all the corrupted blood in the traded deck.
It was still a lost fight, toast empties his deck, naturalizes to fill their hand, and trades decks. At that point he could drop Hakkar and they have to either let it smorc or die to bloods.@@TheHappyReaper
Title reference starts at 8:45
not all heroes wear capes. many thanks
So interactive! like watching 2 old ladies swing their purses at each other from across the street
I was going to suggest limited draw to reduce the risk of milling Hakkar & reduce the risk from your own corrupted bloods but I guess in a mirror this would leave you open to an OTK Togwaggle turn. Smart play Toast
Toast: whoever draws their deck first loses.
*draws his deck*
Not drawing doesn’t win you the game if you don’t have hakkar though...
TheRebornPheonix Sorry for the unclarity. I meant when the opponent is playing mecha’thun, your win condition is the hakkar which is a single card and therefore you would need to draw it.
In the hakkar vs hakkar matchup however, it is an advantage if your opponent runs out of cards first as you save yourself 8 mana on switching decks.
0:23
Why does his opponent keep drawing the corrupted blood I don’t understand how it works
Toast you are the butter to my bread
How can he be butter if he is Toast
He isn’t toast he is disguised. And is obviously butter on the inside
@Blue .Barrymore his disguise is so good they don't realize he's actually toast.
well at least he is not the toaster
the thumbnail REALLY makes you look like supreme leader
5:22 is the better play to barkskin the acolyte and mill more? Get at least 2 extra mills off the acolyte since pyro will tick 3 times (he has earthen scales) and you have hero power. Thats 4. Trade auctioneer. 5 up from 3.
i just got hakkar from a pack the last night thank you for your blessing god toast
Or you simply craft it.
I got hakkar as one of my first legendarys
It's almost like they made that card for players like Disguised Toast
Google should hire Disguised Toast instead of buying DeepMind.
now do a fake hakkar deck like the mechathun one
without hakkar?
you got budget deck toggwagle fatigue deck with only toggwagle and 2 naturalize.
Toast, you should make an odd, discard, cubelock. Maybe through in an otk just for fun.
Yes, I know it's a terrible idea, that's why it's a great idea. Think of the memes.
Can an "Even Warlock Mecha'thun deck" work?
Idk why but Toast is starting to look like Tokido from the fighting game community.
I think the developers obviously want people to focus on having more than one or two good cards in their decks and make the dusting process like selling gold for pennies to make people pay up
Le Shudderwock 2.0
I don't get it, why not play Hemet in Hakkar for the post togwaggle? Or has Journey to Un'Goro rotated out and I wasn't aware of it?
Cause the turn post togwaggle that gives your opponent the bloods in your deck almost never exists cause you already win
Yep, it turns out you don't need to get rid of the Corrupted Bloods in your own deck (which you stole) because your opponent is already dead from drawing one time from a deck filled with only Corrupted Bloods.
I don’t get how Hakkar works though...doesn’t say “draw a card” on the corrupted blood, so why does it keep cycling through all the corrupted bloods?
Draw a card is attached to the key word "cast this when drawn" now.
Oh I see. And it stops when you get the fatigue damage unless you use a spell or something to draw more cards, correct?
@@MrSyous13 its damage->draw->shuffle 2 and the previous effects must "resolve" to continue. So if you have 2 bloods in deck (and no other cards) you will draw for turn and draw a blood. You will take the damage and draw a card. The card drawn will trigger if possible since we are still in the "draw" section (in this case it will). You draw the second blood. Take another 3. That blood will now draw you a card which in this scenario is a fatigue card (so you now take the fatigue damage). Now that no other effects are taking place the first blood card will finish by shuffling in 2 bloods. Then the second copy will shuffle in 2 leaving you with 4 bloods in deck and your fatigue count going up by 1 (which it would have anyway since your deck was empty).
Hearthstone has a very.....archaic system where it doesn't constantly check for changes and such until EVERY card in a "chain" resolves. Thats why I'm 99% sure if you have Bolf Ramshield on board and 50 bloods in deck you will take zero damage from drawing a card (and shuffle 50 more bloods in) since the game is going to wait until ALL the bloods resolve before checking to see if Bolf died and before shuffling in the 2x bloods.
I see. So that fact that he kept drawing after the fatigue was because of auctioneer. So In this case it was draw (auctioneer) then cycled through all the bloods, fatigue, then draw again (auctioneer again) and so on
i just made a hakkar warrior deck and it's omega pog
Can you make even hunter? (I know there is still not enough hunters)
Anyone else get a 300 minute long LEGO movie ad?
running oaken summons is too risky
I wonder how blizzard can nerf druid even more after the ramp nerfs
What about Hakkar deck without Hakkar ha?
The eternal fuse
It's not 200IQ, it's 500IQ
Okay, what the fuck just happened? Why was the opponent drawing so much after Togwaggle?
Oh yeah yeah toast
Almost 90 face damage Jesus Christ
having attitudes in life must be very convinient .... wish i had that luxury
Oof exited for this
Bring back old Toast! Plz
Why is the title so clickbaity?
You've clearly never seen a toast video before. Unfortunately nowadays he goes all in on the clickbait.
@@joshburns1777 Im pretty sure he purposely does that to peeve people who call out clickbaits
@@DharkDemonBlade well, I guess. I hope so. But doing clickbait "ironically" does not mean you are using clickbait any less than people who are doing it "unironically", and you still get the full benefit of views either way. If he was only doing it to annoy haters I don't think he would consistently use the full clickbait package (you know, also using the exaggerated reaction as thumbnail) on literally every video.
So I think he's possibly worse than other clickbaiters if he does claim to do it to annoy haters, because then he's not just doing something shitty, he's doing something shitty and also being a bitch and refusing to own up to it.
I really like toast and the clickbait doesn't really bother me, though oddly it would bother me a lot more if he pretended that he uses clickbait only as a joke.
Suppah Hakkar
If you know that the earth is not flat why should you believe in it anyway Mr. Toast? Whad are you talking about 0:00 ?
esse japonês é o bichão mesmo, ganha até de olhos fechados kkkkkkk
360p folks
oh yeah yeah
Oh yeah yeah
Toast's IQ is so high he just casually invents a new branch of quantum mechanics. You got two sides, good and evil, but there's a time where both sides are both good and evil at the same time. And only once you as the observer pick a side do you really know which is good and which isn't.
You know, the whole cat in the box thing. Shits deep yo.
I think mechathun is easier
and btw Hakkar is a new sexy.
I have the utter respect for you as a player and druid as a class to be still viable after those nerfs, but dam even thou I have both Hackar and Togwaggle, there is no chance I would play this even thou it looks fun, but I'm playing to have fun, not to solve math problems...
Wait, wait wait. The opponent was obviously mecha'thun right? Wouldn't just putting the corrupted blood in your opponents deck win you the game?
quit horsing around
Yeah yeah
Sup brother oh yeah yeah
oh yeah yeah
The 200 IQ meme is getting kinda tiresome
😂
Bring back Blufflock!
In a love hate relationship with this game not worth all the stress tbh fwiw fyi
Lol all this ppl complaining about a meme
Tryhard
This deck is so degenerate
Duel links is better
I don't know what that is. is that like a pokemon thing or something? I haven't watched pokemon since Dawn was the hot sidekick who replaced May.
Sparrow 2 Electric Boogaloo it’s a game, my most recent vid is on it
first
No more Hakkar druid please. This is boring.
TheMultiCaster Its Shudderwock all over again...
enough with the 200 IQ title to this game. its a card game that 6 yr old play. 200IQ has nothing to do with it at all. All your doing is devaluing real intelligence, and encouraging gamers to think they are doing something special, when all it is is a video game. Toast, get a hold of yourself man, its not rocket science.
Really? A six year could calculate that he would need to keep his Auctioneer alive so that he could shuffle extra Corrupted Bloods into his own deck before giving it to his opponent? What kind of genius daycare do you work at?
Oh yeah yeah