Crimean Tatar Bow by AF Archery
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Review from a historical accuracy perspective in the context of reenactment.
Blue Birdeye Maple Tatar Bow by AF Archery 2024 afarchery.com/...
Total length/(cm) 135
String Length/(cm) 121
Max.draw length/(inch) 32
Black Tatar material Glass Fiber, bamboo , ash wood
Oak/Takedown Tatar material Glass Fiber, bamboo , oak
Blue Maple Curly material bearpaw glass,bamboo,maple
Black/Oak/Takedown Tatar Package Contents 1x Bow, 1x Bowstring, 1x Black Bow Sleeve
Blue Maple Curly Package Contents 1x Bow, 1x Bowstring,1x Brocade Bow Sleeve
it's crazy how you make a 50lbs bow look like a 25lbs bow, great video as always, keep up the good work!
50Ibs isnt exactly that hard to draw considering warbow training lol
Beautiful bow! Looking foward to your review of AF's Mongol style bow as well. I have the AF Queyue and it's become my favourite shooter. I love the versitility of these bows. They let you shoot 3 under on the left or thumb or slavic on the right. They are small, super light, easy to carry and I'm impressed by the quality.
this one is new design and quite unique
Good mix of forgotten weapons style presentation and general shooting
the video and audio quality improved significantly, are you using professional camera now?
Your descriptions, historical emphasis, and shared knowledge are always great. I loved this review. Many thanks!
yeah he is one of the few emphasing the design features and differences of histroical bow shapes likely from his structural engineering background
civil eng @@busurbusur2381
I like the paint work on the bow.
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Thank you , I look forward to more reviews from you.
looking forward to see your AF new mongolian fiberglass bow
i heard it looks unique
More historically accurate than laminate glass
That's my favorite bow shape, mine looks almost the same, it's a Samick SKB 50 lbs horsebow.
One of my favorites. Mine is the older longer model AF Tartar (129cm string) with Bearpaw glass, bamboo limb cores, and Bubinga veneers. I have three of them. The siyah of one is a little thinner than the other two, so it's a little quicker..
love the new range so much, that's a very pretty bow
Congrats being a dad!🎉🎉🎉
Im not
@@HistoricalWeapons😅
Absolutely gorgeous.
Thanks buddy - I never would have seen this if not for you.
Glad you enjoyed it
It sounds like a war zone,😮😊 BTW beautiful Tatar😊
Gun range
Nice fast shooting, bro. Good to see someone else that rests the arrow on that "wrong" side, lol. Some ancient art shows that it was used. Great bow presentation, too. Thanks for posting.
There isn’t a “wrong” side.
Just depends on which region of the world you’re referring to.
There are so many variations that involve shooting from left OR right side.
Thank you for demonstrating various types of releases. Very informative. Excellent site
My Bow Reviews are from a historical accuracy perspective. Focused on indicating the differences from historical bows vs commercial bows.
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I just bought it because it is a cheap, high-quality traditional style bow. Good for a beginner who doesn’t like modern bows with all the unnecessary bells and whistles.
What's your opinion after a couple months?
@@GoblinArmyInYourWalls the Tatar still is a perfect bow for a beginner in trad archery. It shoots exactly where you point it, and it draws really well. It does stack a bit towards full draw, but it is still quite smooth. Handle fits really well, and lends itself naturally both to using khatra and not using it.
I consider it one of my most prized possessions, and I do not plan to stop shooting it, even if I get my hands on a whole collection of war bows.
@@lemagicbaguette1917 thanks for the response! what weight did you get?
@@GoblinArmyInYourWalls mine is a thirty pounder at 28" of draw.
I think the reason modern horse bows are far less recurved(Noiwhere near the "C" or even complete circle shape of historical composite bows) is the difference in properties between horn/sinew & fibre/carbon fibre. The modern materials don't need to be so heavily flexed/"wound up" to give the similar performance, compared to that is needed on horn bellied bows. Similar performance but different materials with differing properties & quirks. If yoiu bent fibreglass that far & then tried to draw the bow it'd break being beyond its tensile limits.
The great thing is that we don't have to bind each limb to a seperate woodern former to pre-half brace the bow before we can string it & then untie the wooden formers. That would be a huge pain & likely result in many good bows being damaged by doing it wrong.
Absoulutely right to call for the max draw length the bow can safely withstand & the draw length at which the 50lb draw was measured at to be given & stated on the bow.
That is a beautiful bow though Jack! Thanks for showing it off.
dont forget user abuse and user negligence. from a manufacture perspective they want something more user friendly or warranties come flying their door
I think you're right. Turkish horn bows made by Karpowicz did 188fps at 10 GPP drawn 28 inches. Most modern bows can do that and be way easier to string and live with. Max draw limit means different things to different people. Mine is measured at 28, reaches 90 degrees at 32 inches. Some may "stack" before or after either. Some historical designs are meant to maximize performance, not longevity or ease of use. Can be hard to get both. Modern materials and designs are easier to get both with.
@@mikeorick6898 Atarn shows 200+ fps at 9gpp
@@HistoricalWeapons My bad (edited). "For selfbows, drawn to 28in, the arrow velocity at 10grains/lb is no more than 175fps, normally much less, while the Turkish bows average 188fps at 28in draw. Note with lighter arrows the gap would widen considerably. PERFORMANCE OF TURKISH BOWS by Adam Karpowicz 2006." There is always a variety of results from testers. Modern material trad bows can do from 165-220 fps at 9 GPP, all with much easier to string limb profiles. A yew longbow, 120lb@32in shot a 1543 grain arrow (12.85 gpp) at 188fps (Pip Bickerstaffe, personal communication to Adam Karpowicz). My AF Tartar has done 200 fps at 32in draw with a ring, about 195 with fingers. The Tartar horn bow Karpowicz made for Joe Gibbs did 211 fps at 5-6GPP. A yew longbow at the same draw weight did 205fps. Round n round we go...
Beast from east
There’s a original tatar bow kept at a castle near me it’s only slightly more reflexes than yours
Some relics are worn out, and some are like the Turks: some are a crescent and some are a boat shape.
@@mikeorick6898 i would imagine it’s been neglected it’s in a castle in Scotland and the bow beside it is a deformed still strung crab bow
Loved how you showed different shooting styles. 👍
Thanks for the review! I just grabbed an AF Tatar in Oak at 50# brand new on eBay for $90. I couldn't say no at that price. It is my heaviest bow but you make it look so easy. 😆
Wow cheap
Congrats on the price
Thank You for this great review of a very beautiful bow! As a Turkish style archer I bought an AF bamboo Turkish bow some days ago - fast bow and draws so smooth! And I have an eye on the blue Tatar Bow....
Love your passion for historical archery..you look the part too.😊
Kalahari bushmen bow/hunting bow of the san-people next please.
They need to make Native American bows
It’s just primitive sticks inferior
@@lichenggong1248they are very interesting in design for the technology available
By design it is hard to achieve efficiency. But it easy to make. During war time. They can make it in short and fast time
@@lichenggong1248ah yes the cultures that were around for 15000 years are just sticks, got it
@@lichenggong1248 correct.
That looks like the victoria fish and game club archery range.. I've spent many an hour there over the years!
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Such dad bod and dad laugh 8:33
Hahaa
It’s at 7:00
That's a beautiful bow
Thank you, I just found your channel. Looking foreword to seeing more reviews.
You shoukd never pull the bow at the maximum draw length. You should draw 2 or max 1 inch shorter for longevity of bow
Max 32
The Torres Strait Islanders had very powerful war bows too. They traded with the aboriginals of mainland Australia who chose not to adopt the bow. They had the woomera and spears and boomerangs,and clubs. Bit off topic I know.❤❤
Amazing looking bow
It is a really sweet looking bow.
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Really impressove strength and technique there. Congratulations 🎉. I have a pair of questions: What sort of improvement is a carbon core to this bow? How about an integrated stringe bridge?
Awesome design. I’d love to see what you could dig up about the history of African archery, I’m new to the hobby but can’t find much info about African style bows or shooting techniques.
There’s very little and most are written by historians during European colonization which are skewed towards showing their attitudes of the time of sub Saharan Africa
The Nubians were feared and called eye archers because they could aim for the eyes.Tall, powerful black archers with long, powerful self bows,I believe .The bow strings were tied on at the limb tips so as not to give a weak spot...must have been very powerful. They ruled Egypt at various times.
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This boy is fantastic! It's ideal for me!
Would you tell me what is the width of arrow pass of this beautiful bow?
Thank you.
Wow
Wow! Currently I am thinking of buying this bow in take down version. Would the difference be alot because that isn't available in bearpaw glass?
Also, does the 50lbs pull difficult? I've had various bow in my hand where some draw very hard and other very smooth.
I currently shoot a 40@29 sipahi bow. I'm still unsure if I should go 45 or 50 for this tatar one
What t do you use for nock point
Question: is this bow backed with fibreglass? If so, is it better to leave this particular one strung or unstrung? The forums gave no straight answer, and AFA never responded, so I ask thee.
best to unstring plus its not difficult due to the weight. its sandwiched with fiberglass, back n belly
@@HistoricalWeapons roger. Thank you.
There were many AF complaints regarding quality recently.
There’s warranty
Cuz it’s Chinese
@@legntt3488it has good and bad stuff 😊
@@phawang37 customs fee, shipping back and forth, time, frustration
这个弓可以猎熊吗😅
yes
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AF babylon actually performs better than tartar. It is longer and shoots faster
What arrows did you use?
Hutan di sana tidak ada nyamuk ke?
Are you on an artillery range, man?
It’s fun range
He look Tatar
i have mongol ancestry
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