U.S. Air Force Boeing C-17 extremely short takeoff from ZRH - with cold engine start!
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- 📍 LSZH | ZRH - Zurich Kloten Airport 🇨🇭
🎨 United States Air Force
✈️ Boeing C-17A Globemaster III
🇺🇸 06-6167
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Today, a C17 of the USAF brought some freight to Zurich airport for Donald Trump's WEF visit. Pushback from the W apron, smokey engine startup, loud taxiing past the observation deck and takeoff on runway 16. The aircraft lifted off at a very steep angle after a few hundred meters, reduced speed and angle!!
Frachtflug für Donald Trumps bevorstehenden WEF Besuch. Video beinhaltet Abfertigung, rauchiger Triebwerksstart und einen sehr kurzen und anfangs steilen Start von der Piste 16.
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I'm sorry to inform you. It is a McDonnell Douglas C17 Globemaster III. We designed it we built it. Boeing had nothing to do with it.
And than the deity for that with their current record
No its not its a planey mcplane face designed by planey mcplane corporation.
Well Said, Neil Frederick Clifford, C17 Manufacturing Engineering Long Beach 1986-1991
to be honest, that was a normal take off for a C-17. I see them everyday, that was not a full military power takeoff where they stand it on its tail and just climb
I see them everyday in Charleston SC, too. I love them and the C-5s.
@@schrap72 The C-5 is big, but the C-17 moves like a fighter. Never seen a C-5 do a 360 turn at 90 degrees. Love all those big birds. I even look up when a C-130 flies by, lol
@@neilhagerman1217 Nothing like low levels on an incentive flight :)
You bet been there awesome awesome stuff never happened I was told yes sir was my reply.
@@neilhagerman1217 C-130, you can hear it coming before it get there. C-130 does aerial spraying for mosquitoes when it gets bad down here. Reserve unit out of Ohio. Under 500ft AGL.
Take of starts at 6:45
True Hero
Thank you
@@SPotter1973 - C-17 6167 comms to tower... Back off boys, the gorilla has to jet!
🌄 If "you own the sky," then tell us who needs to clean up the junk from rocket launches that is floating around in space. How many countries are responsible and what is their share? Would tRump's "space force" clean up for the US?
No new projects, no trips to the moon or Mars should be financed until there's a substantial cleanup of space debris.
I watched a Hercules take off with a hostage rescue pack. Solid Propellent booster Rockets for really really short take off. Pilot lined up on runway gave it full power on all four turbo props and almost as soon as everything was going full power and rolling the pilot hit the JATO button. Four or six cannot remember rockets fired and the plane accelerated and took off, it almost went up vertically. Boosters burned for it seemed about 30 seconds. Pilot nosed down to level flight just before the JATO packs burned out and flew away as if nothing happened. It looked like the Space Shuttle taking off, awesome. Saw it at Oceana Air base in Virginia Beach many years ago.
JATOs are cool. Perhaps you might remember an X plane that was fired off a mobile rail launcher like a missile.
Have you seen the mission they had planned to land a c130 inside a soccer stadium and takeoff back out of it with the use of many JATO’s?
Still don't understand why the are called JATO when the really are RATOs. Rocket Assisted TakeOff instead of Jet Assisted TakeOff.
@@gravelydon7072 t.w.i.s.
@@gravelydon7072 Whatever it is...Thank you GOD for it !!!!
You don't have to be an aviation enthusiast to get a thrill out of watching this massive cargo aircraft take off! WOW, this big bird takes off in the air like she owns it, well, she probably does! Even the sound of the Globemaster slipping the surly bonds of Earth rumbles through you as she slips up into the wild blue. I guess with all that power, the C-17 doesn't have to eat a lot of runway before just lifting up effortlessly, amazing!
These incredible aircraft fly low and slow over my house on training missions all the time. It's like watching a huge barn floating by. Awesome!!!
"Huge barn floating by" cracked me up. They are amazing aircraft.
They fly low over my house, too. Close enough I can see the rivets and the pilots....although, it’s been quiet here with no activity in about three weeks.
I used to watch them come in for a landing at El Toro afb out my window as a kid was amazing watching such a huge plane flying so slow
Always been in awe of how slow they look like their going!
Thank you for your daily tolerance.
~1/3 runway run to take-off. Impressive.
6:54 that's not very far from the taxiway entry point for that runway. That is pretty impressive...
That smoke you see at the beginning is probably de-icer. I'm sure that if this was January in Zurich, it was cold enough to gather condensation and the water would freeze in the engines . They use de-icer to safely warm up the engines. As the engine heats up, it burns the de-icer and turns it to smoke.
p.s. The take off looked pretty normal to me.
May not be de-icer, it could just be un-burnt fuel vaporising in the hot gas as the engine fires up. Agree that looked like a normal take off…
Fast forward to 6:50 to watch a completely normal C-17 takeoff.
lol, thx😉
Seems some people have no idea how huge this C17 is and so very little runway it took for it to rotate. And if this doesn't impress you, you should see the C5 fly. It actually looks like it is stopped in the air it is so huge.
Exactly what I was thinking. Two amazing aircraft. I still look for MAC on the tail instead of AMC, though. And yeah I'm old lol
I live near Dover A.F.B. in Delaware and used to love hearing the C-5s coming in screaming.
@@jamesplymire5342 I want to get back to Dover one day. I'm told one of the B-17s my dad flew in is restored and outside the front gate. Her name is "Sleepy Time Gal."
I grew up in Altus Oklahoma and I got to walk thru that monster a few times when they had the air show every year... Altus was the home of the C-5A
The C17 is not huge.
Yawn. If this was "insane" some of you obviously lead very boring lives. Get a girlfriend, a fast motorbike or go diving. Or all 3.
Suggested title edit: “plane takes off - nothing to really see here”
donavon Blair - If Your an aviation buff, this plane is incredible!
Luv this stuff
Guys, Truth Teller and Kenneth, ol' donavon is a commie from the old days. He likes to try and make anyone else's sense of amazement at the things achieved by the free-market workers of the world lessened. Why? BECAUSE COMMIES DON'T BUILD C-130s!!!!!!
What a sad little man he must be, screaming at the sky as the world passes him by, and wondering WHY, OH WHY, the world's leaders don't stop to seek his wisdom!! lol
@@davidschmidt6013 spot on👍
David Schmidt AN 225
Was one of the McDonnell Douglas FAA Aircraft Dispatchers durung the Flight Test Program for the C-17 out of Long Beach CA. 1st fuselage was put in hanger to break wings off, 2nd for mechanical and the 3rd for electronic testing. Eventually program moved to Edwards AFB. Initial flight test done out over the Pacific in an area south of San Diego, called W291. Then went world wide for cold and hot weather testing. Aircraft did re-lights, hardovers, dives steep turns, hard landings, aborted takeoffs, standing water takeoffs and landings. Multi cargo drops at different altitudes like 50 feet above the runway. Every C-17 that came off the Production line did a 3 - 6 hour systems flight test before delivery to the Air Force.
We built the C17 runway and parking at marine camp Dwyer in south Afghanistan. Very thick runway. Too bad Biden wasted all our Taxpayer funds giving it back to the Taliban. Stupid
This video could have been one minute long.
Or 0
Oh quit it whining, you do haved a forwards controller.
Here for the planes them mate?
😉 Lolz
Well then get out your editing software mr film guy.
@@michaelsteven1090 why so salty
I grew up hearing these and other planes take off near Travis AFB. I love them. To see something so massive as a C-17 or C-5 take off, while using such a small percentage of the runway, is incredible. And the sound they make is fantastic. Seriously I enjoy watching these take off and land as much as fighter jets.
Edit: I can tell by the comments that I may have been to vague and the meaning is misunderstood. Hopefully this clarifies it.
short runway? That's runway 16 in Zürich which is 3700 meters long, longer than the longest at Travis AFB (3350 meters) and long enough for basically every plane to start and land.
@@FalconX88 ...........Dude did it even use 1/3rd of the runway?
@@FalconX88 Did it use any significant length of that runway?
I know Travis AFB in Fairfield, CA I grew up about 20 minutes from there
They are not massive at all. Way smaller than a 747 or a C5.
Just watching the most beautiful airplane in the history of aviation makes me forgive the click bating tactics of the poster. The BAe 146 is a very close 2nd as far as beauty.
Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree. The C-141 was a far more graceful airplane than the C-17. A shame that they are all gone.
Disagree with you both, the f1-11 was the best looking plane ever. IMO.
@@davidrandle8093 tHtY
Nah! F-104!
I can't believe after almost 7 minutes of startup and taxi, you have the gall to cut the video to halfway through the takeoff roll. What a terrible video.
Plane was literally designed to use dirt runways and to be able to land and takeoff in the same distance as a C-130. Best military cargo lifter in the world.
Thats a bit too much of an overstatement because best needs various criterias to be decided upon. For a military cargo, it can be MTOW, STOL, Cargo Volume, altitude adaptability, speed of loading/unloading etc and even after that being able to decide a best in ge world is highly questionable. All militaries use the cargo aircraft that best suits their needs. There isn't any one defined 'best' that can fit in any pair of shoes.
@@fieldmarshal7298 i was air trans in the air force, my job was loading unloading aircraft. So when I say best, I'm speaking from experiance....
It’s an over-achiever in all categories..
@@bubba9384 yes sir, but you have only seen your own air force,ask any other guy from the other airforce that uses a different airlifter and chances are that they would answer differently. Every airforce has its own needs and specifications and i hope you would know that or else the aircraft composition of all airforce a would be more or less similar.
@@fieldmarshal7298 nope... I have loaded most military heavy llifter aircraft at some point, the only one I haven't loaded at least once is the AN-225 that I know of. Yea the C-17 isen't the best for every job, but overall it is the best heavy lifter around. And from what I've seen, heard from pilots, and experianced riding in a handful of heavy lifters it is the best flyer in its weight catagory.
It's like comparing a lambo to a mustang...
I used to watch these take off from Eglin. It looked they were going slow enough to fall out of the sky. The weirdest sounding engines also.
I live down in the British Channel Islands, and these things, plus the Atlas and Hercules, often use our airport for approach and touch-and-go training, same thing from my perspective, we live under the flight path and it looks like they're flying so slow that they should be falling out of the sky.
I listen-in to their comms on my scanner, it's nothing interesting, I'm just nosey, lol 🤜🤛
Very impressive: Actually with enough thrust, you can make a barn door fly
That's big enough to be the whole barn!
It’s not thrust it’s lift that makes these fly, lift comes from differential air pressure so I get the point you are trying to make but sorry I don’t see a barn door flying.
Or a pig!
Thought the adage was a brick.
@@maynardferguson9599 I don't know , maybe a pig.
I failed to see the insanity of this.
He might know the pilot!😂😂
whiteknightcat
Insanity of this is to maked a jet which does to weigh at 282,400 pounds leaped off a rund way as that!!! But yours arms chair piloting license must meand that never you would to sucked wind ifed you were on that jet whened did it rotated uped wards!
@@jacobsparry8525 To be able to leap like that, it has to be empty.
Hector Rodriguez
I do know it that. That is why did I put that it does to weigh at 282,400 pounds or 141.2 tons. Still that is pretty very radical dude!
@@jacobsparry8525 What?
What was "insane" was me watching the whole damn thing.
No one made you watch!
Thought we were supposed to see an INSANE take off‼️... All I saw was a whale get airborne in Slo-Mo‼️
Lol
Very well said!
It is insane to have something that large taking off .
Jason Fryer I saw you mama lifting off belching smoke 💨
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What's so insane about that I thought it was going to be a hundred yard take off with some assist rockets
I went to an airshow at homstead air base once.. they had the thunderbirds, F15s, F16s, F18s etc etc.. all kinds of incredibly cool planes putting on shows and the most impressive thing was seeing the C17 do a short take-off and landing.. that thing stops on a dime and takes off like the space shuttle Lol..
My husband and I were stationed at Homestead AFB back in 1990 and the air show I went in 1991 had the thunderbirds. The cool thing about Homestead it was a base that had fighter jets and on any given day they would fly over our house. It was so cool to watch!
I can relate to your statement I remember fort Lauderdale Air show especially seeing the stealth bomber it was like out of this world definitely was in aww
Nevermind the see that see this stuff. I caught hops on the C17 many times also on the C5. Great!!!
I've never heard another plane sound quite the same. I've only heard it in person once, almost 20 years ago, but it was memorable.
I live close to Joint Base Charleston in South Carolina and the C-17s are a staple here. You don’t even have to look up to know one is going over since they are so incredibly loud.
I live near Dover AFB, and see (and hear!) C-5s and C-17s fairly often. They have similar sounds - extremely impressive!
If this plane is stalling it's fuel injectors on both sides need to be washed out and sprayed out and clean out you got that right the lines need a checkup 🛑🚨💺🌍⛑️🌎🤝🎯💯🛫🇺🇸💌🌏👍🌹🌹❣️❣️
Very imprsive performance by these sophisticated airborne machines with robust earodynamics.
Kudos to desingners and pilots.
It's still amazing to me that these things fly. Mind blowing.
Lmao, even riding in them they feel like they shouldn’t be flying 😂 or jumping out of one
Why? Because they dont flap their wings?
@@blubba4brainsfatnproud272 you dumb or just an ass? cuz of the size and shape
That’s what i said the first time I saw it….but then I saw a C-5 and it takes the cake.
@@xelthiavice4276 your shape and size?!? Then I would think it would have a hard time getting up let alone fly. Rofl
Make a vid ten times longer than it needs to be, and cut off half the part the clickbait title refers to.
I was a crew chief on C141s and missed seeing working on these by a few years 😩
I agree it wasnt an insane take off. Things are nice though, i got to stand inside one at an air show once, was like standing in a hollowed out skyscraper laying on its side. Wonder what it feels like actually being in one on a real "insane STOL".
This makes me realize how much of a joke the Russian military is.
Skip, skip, skip, ...
Then 'wow', a SPECK of plane taking off.
'Insane!'
man, it seems like something that heavy and large shouldn't even be able to fly
Man some days I love being an american
I was thinking the same thing Jeff.
I think it's an Italian thing.
Bernoulli's Principle?
Anybody get schooled?
I have been on several C 17's at U Tapao Airport in Thailand. Fantastic crews! Very well educated and --very polite! A compliment to the USA!
Thank you. We are very proud of our military. Their protection, service, professionalism, and humanitarianism are very dear to us in the US.
@@corinnem.239 bless our men and women across the world defending freedom
That plane turns so effortlessly despite its size.
Oh yeah... INSANE...LOL...
Skip to 6.46 and save almost 7 minutes of your life.
Increddibly boring stuff...
Did I miss something? What is so insane about this takeoff- looks normal to me.
WHAT are they burning in that thing? Never seen such smoky starts...
I remember during the first Iraq war. These cargo planes were flying loaded up out of Travis AFB. I lived pretty far away and their takeoff pattern took quite a bit of time to get to attitude. The sound of the engines sounded louder when working really hard.
NATO murderers 🤮
“The sound of the engines sounded louder when working really hard”
- Albert Einstein
@@ClutchEveryTime not only that the "first Iraq war" started January 16th 1991. C-17s were not around then. This guy is mistaken whoever posted the original comment.🤡
@@desertodavid I'm guessing they were C-5's.
@@ClutchEveryTime lol
I lived in Germany for 2 years. I loved those dreary days like what is shown here. Gawd I miss that place!! The weather, the people, the night life, the small villages, amazing place!
My mother was a full blooded German, of German parents, born in America, but I have always been impressed by the things Germans build! First quality, and usually the best design over all others! Best tanks, aircraft, automobiles, whatever! I am proud of my German heritage, other than the destruction caused by that NAZI bastard HITLER!🤬🤬
I lived there for 7 years. Two tours of 4 and 3 years when my father was in the US Army. Back in the 70’s and early 80’s. I loved those dreary days too! One out of three days was like this. I liked the sunny days also. Just had the best time as a kid living on a US Army post housing area. Loved Germany. The best of times.
Mom is from Ochsenfürt and würzburg. Dads grandparents from isernia and castelvecchio subequo/Abruzzi region. Love the people food, towns, rivers, and culture of Europe.
We could always tell we were coming up on an American convoy on the Autobahn by the smoke cloud! Lol.
@@bobpaulino4714 I'm sure this sounds silly ( meaning I can google anything for instant answers) but is the Autobahn like I hear , speed is not limited so any speed you want to drive is good ? Thanks just curious
@@rockybarnes307 there are areas with speed restrictions. Many areas have no limit -- just little white crosses on the side of the highway to show you where someone who thought that they were a competent driver took their last breath.
What’s insane about this perfectly ordinary, well understood triumph of physics and reason? Oh yeah, just your bollox title.
Most likely its just another day at the office for the pilots and crew, but for me you have to be a genius to learn and fly that aircraft. JUST AMAZING to watch that big bird taxi and takeoff.
Not harder to fly this than a commercial jet. A fighter though, then we are talking difficulty with all their manouvers!
No harder than driving a car. Well no harder than a manual at lol, Americans might have an issue as it’s not an automatic lol.
Good point.
This is no ordinary plane. It take a lot of skills to fly this big bird.
I like this pilot takeoff. He cruised that big C-17 on up into the wind. He didn't takeoff steep and bank right away.
He didn't rush...that's why the takeoff look so beautiful.
This look like the end of a movie because right at the end of this video..he bank. Now that's patience.
STOL takeoff? I'm still waiting. Still, not bad for the Air Force.
perfect takeoff! nothing insane...
Insanely normal. Dumb flip in title to get hits. False advertising should make this post removed
I LOVE seeing this plane takeoff and land, but I failed to see "insane" part of the video. I've seen these planes to actual insane takeoffs (in person too) and this was nothing of that.
David Franklin Maybe it was the huge smoking farts the plane had at around 3:00 it refers to... 😁
Ah! That airport is called "Kloten", which in Dutch translates to Ballsack. I allways think that's funny :-)
For smoke and confusion B52 take offs are still king. Stationed at Minot AFB for 4.
We had them at March AFB CA.
What horrible lives some of these commenters must lead. I enjoyed the entire vid. Thank you.
I live just outside CFB Trenton , I see these things many time a week . They still impress me
That was kind of clickbait. Love that sound!!
Isn't that what it's supposed to do,?
anyone not impressed by that takeoff roll plays too much gta
total click bait nothing insane about that takeoff.
It used like 1/10th of the runway, for such a big plane, that's impressive
Jamie Buckley yeah you’re pretty dumb.
Okay Mr. Room Temperature IQ
@@PK-pd9oy, ask yourself why, let's see, best guess is the it was empty and it was a cold day.
When you see this thing flying over your country to fight against you then you won’t to get out of town
Did 21 years in the Air Force and working on the flight line. I have never seen a C-17 in person before. That should date me...
141s?
Thank you for your service !
Somebody should.
That pilot is going to miss doing that when he's flying a '67 for united.
The best sleep I've ever had on an aircraft. Flew into Afghanistan in a C-17 that was virtually empty, so they let us throw down our sleeping bags and stretch out. Wonderful airplane.
Yes I have heard. But I aint crazy enough to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. :) I will leave that to you guys.
jack noyb ....thank you.
Linda Ferguson.. IKR? It aint happening. :)
Jack Thank You for Your Service . Is it noisy inside ?
Same here, flew back from Germany in 1981 on a C5. Like riding on a bigggg overstuffed pillow.
Dear God....just show the freaking take off
Haha, we all read the comments 1st so we know not to waste our time. 😂😂😂😂😂
Whats so insane about this takeoff ?
So tired of fake titles just to get views
A C-17 is designed to carry tons and tons of cargo. When empty it is very light, relatively speaking. With the engines at maximum thrust and unloaded, it can probably fly straight up after taking off.
I was thinking the same thing about its weight. Light airplane on a cool day can be incredibly responsive at rotation speed.
Nope. Light weight is twice the thrust that the engines can produce so straight up could only be done from a level flight for a very short amount of time before it stalled.
@@gravelydon7072
Like the F-16.
The F-16 can travel very fast and accelerate vertically until it reaches its service ceiling where the air is too thin and the engine's thrust decreases to the point of stalling because of insufficient thrust.
With a C-17, it is probably more a matter of if its air frame could withstand the stress of doing a vertical climb more than if it lacks the thrust to do so. A C-17 is not designed with doing the high G turns that a fighter is and a vertical climb, even without accelerating, would cause very different stresses than horizontal flight would.
My MAC Flight to Germany was in one of these.
My last two jumps in the Army was from the C17 at Bragg. We were testing mass exit. Great bird to jump from.
Mike Box did you serve 20 and a wake up🤔
You see theser planes all the time at the Dover, DE air force base.
I appreciate the way you creatively edit so we only see it once it's already been rolling and we don't know how long it's actually been doing it. It's not like you were short on footage or time because you made us watch while every single engine started up but just before it actually did the takeoff you cut a bit away so we can't tell how long it's been rolling.
Because the plane literally only used 1/3 of the runway, there wasn't any "Rolling" time to be had.
what does the little girl say at 7:29? Uf Widerluege?
I keep sayin ok, last video, but now I'm here.
I remember flying from Zurich to Milan with Alitalia. The take off wasn’t a problem. The cockpit door wide open throughout the flight plus the vertical landing did me in! The pilot seemed to see the runway and just dropped the plane. Moron
Damn
That robust and powerful diesel heavy duty truck is more than capable of pushing that C-17 behemoth around wherever it needs to do so. (At very slow and deliberate speed, of course.)
Insane ? I almost fell asleep watching from start
Back in 1991, I went to an air show at Reese AFB - Lubbock. I saw the Blue Angels (F-18), one of the first public displays of a U2, B-1, and even a F-119 flyover. The most entertaining part of the show was the JATO take-off of a C-130.
It’s unbelievable how quickly these big birds can get airborne.
And where the hell is the "insane" takeoff ? I saw nothing...
Team Dover!!!💪🏽💪🏽
bud, they fly out of Charleston, SC too. It's always an air show.
Looks like them turbines need a reseal soon
Great airplane. Snooze fest of a video. Nothing insane whatsoever, except for the person that came up with tha title.
the three exclamation marks at the end of the video title is a dead give away!!! Ooops....
Nailed it.
😆🤣
See your hero Justsume's response...
USAF saved several thousand gallons of fuel with that push-back.
A C17 does not burn several thousand gallons of fuel in the time it takes to do a reverse thrust.
I realize this is what the Air Force uses as their main cargo ship now, but there was nothing like seeing a big ol c-5a Galaxy taking off and flying over. Simply nothing like it..
My highschool was about 4 miles as the wind blows from a national guard base where there are still many C5s. We used to watch them fly over the school regularly, and it never ceases to amaze me.
They're old but still around. We used C5to deploy to Afghan and Iraq in 16
@@bearsharkp3901 I still see them every time I visit mom. She lives near the Newburgh NY ANG base / Stewart Airport.
I had a friend who flew the C-17. It's a pretty plane, but I agree the C-5 is the better bird.
Downvoted for misleading title.
felicidades por mantener las aviación en desarrollo
My Grandfather engineered this plane.
The only "insane" thing about this was me thinking there was something different about the takeoff.
Yeah I was thinking jatos
@@anthonycope8637 He had a INSANE glass of water just two minuites ago!
I guess I missed the "insane" part...
Ok so I figured out why this is insane, usually these things need 3500 ft of runway to takeoff and land, but from what I managed to see in this video, from the starting point to the moment it takes off, that was way under 3500 ft, a 747 needs 7500 ft of runway, it weighs about 2 times more than a c17, also the c17 is very sturdy to be able to handle an abrupt takeoff like that.
why is the engine start up so smoky?
I was so ready to see something. WOW! really
Where in hell was the "INSANE TAKE-OFF" of this plane...?????
It was as normal as it can be but I've seen passenger planes taking off in a way more pronounced angle than this plane did...!!!!
Talk about a title stating the contrary of whet the picture shows...!!!!!!!!!!!
I flew for 20 years as crew on these-this wasn’t that impressive compared to what the plane can really do.
Pssssstt......hey Phil...can you sneak any of your private vids onto YT?
You bet 100 yards straight my teeth ratted for half an hour afterward was told it never happened yes sir
Thank fuck for the fast forward button .
The kid in the background, “Adios!” Lmao so cute.
He almost could have taken off from where he stood in the first place. Had more than enough 'runway'
What was insane about that?
Sounds like airbus a320...
Insane STOL takeoff starts at 6:48
You are welcome ;)
NICE ofed video... Thank You
Magnificent ofed a Airs Craft. Totallys radical that cand they geted enoughed thrust to maked it leap off ofed the ground as that! That airs craft does to weigh at 282,400 of pounds EMPTY!! And just it jumps ined to the air.
I grew up at LSZH/ZRH, love this A/P.
I'll never forget the first time taking off in Zurich. It's very steep and very fast!
I'm surprised to see foreign army planes being allowed to land and start from Swiss soil. (Neutrality etc.)
@@machelvet9594 looking at the description it doesnt sound like it was in the context of military operations in a conflict. I dont really see what neutrality has to do with it in this context.
You have no idea of what you are talking about.! Some people seem to take pride in showing their ignorance not to mention their stupidity.
@@reedy_9619 Thanks for pointing out the video description. Didn't check it. My bad.
yeah kids these days dont know what its like to take off in Zurich in flight simulator X smh