WILD RAILROAD TRACK DESIGN TO SQUEEZE IN 4 CUSTOMERS!
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- There is a prototype for everything, and here you will see how 4 customers are wedged in a tight space using a diamond (crossing) and even curved turnouts. Explained by a locomotive engineer and with help from the drone!
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Customer A = Steel and Wire
Customer B = Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF)
Customer C = Color Printing
Customer D = Lubricants
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I saw what looked like trucks for Love's Travel Stops and immediately thought it was a DEF transfer facility.
Seriously cool DJ, thanks!!!
This is awesome! Great way to add more action and customers. Even into the same customer on your pike!
Would love to know the commodities going into these industries.
Hope you are killing it!
These are excellent.
Thx DJ
I notice that customer B desperately needs a new roof. That one's just awful.
DJ, it's so great to see you posting again, especially ones like this. Thanks so much!
More to come!
That double switch crossover diamond seems to be direct out of a model railroaders players handbook. I have an industry almost laid out exactly like that. It is about the only way to get two industry's into a tight section on a shelf layout.
I have seven diamonds on my Model Railroad.3 yards and a total of 65 switches.Check out my track plan
Exactly my thought
There's two industries connected like that in Memmingen, Germany. One does metal recycling, the other something to do with tankers.
My grandparents used to live up the hill from that siding off sample road. I used to watch trains go by from their hilltop. We would scramble down that hill and mess around on that siding years ago. There was once a hand cart we played on while looked for old railroad spikes. There was once an old signal tower over the tracks just before the switch. Fishing in the creek just up the hill at the Sample Rd crossing was also great. So many memories here in that 30 second clip. Thank you!
That put a big smile on my face
I also lived up (and over) the hill. I remember the Chessie steam special crossing there in 1977. You can find pictures of it approaching the old Wildwood Mine. Good ole days
Another great video. Thanks for showing "real railroad" situations that help me justify some of my model situations.
I am always looking for real world inspiration for my model railroad.
You have some of the best, most skilled drone shots. Keep them coming. Gary
I appreciate it, I really enjoy making these and discovering new stuff
Great vidio, like all that yard workings.Thanks for the morning coffee...
Good morning!
Great video DJ. You have shown a fair number of real world examples like this where the real life track plans might get criticized by some in the model train community for not being realistic. 😂 I appreciate the real world examples that lead to more imaginative track plans in limited spaces.
hi guys! Hope you're both doing well.
DJ i have to say, listening to your description its like one of those late night easy listening DJ's . Could listen to your videos for hours!
lol, sometimes I hate the sound of my voice when I hear it back, lol. Thanks though, more to come!
So many good examples of real world landscape that I'd love to add to our trainboard. Much appreciated. Gary
Glad you found it helpful!
Great footage and inspirational for us space-staved modelers. Super ducting on the roof of building C. Thanks so much for taking and sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’m actually using the prototype in part of my new track plan
I love how your videos illustrate the messy detail of industrial areas. I model western narrow gauge but I enjoy these videos and your background knowledge.
That's a good point, it's the little details that make the difference.
I am old enough to remember when railroads did a lot of small loose car business and it was not unusual to see a lot of jumbled up customer tracks with some diamonds, or railroad crossings at grade.
the diamond lets the curves be acceptable where a switchback would not. Cool video, thanks!
You got it!
Excellent video with great modelling ideas. IMO one of the best you've done. Thanks!
I appreciate the compliment!
Ah hah, now I can say my AWFUL ballasting is by design? 😂 This is So cool, Dj. Thanks!
hahaha me too
I especially love this video. I am going to try to incorporate this into my layout. Glad you are back doing videos like this, they are always an inspiration.
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear you are inspired!
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear you are inspired!
Thanks for the share DJ! You don't know how many people have told me that industries on model railroads are supposed to be spaced out. This now proves them wrong! - Jason
You earned my subscription. I’ve watched easily hundreds of videos about scenery and structures and you are easily in the top three. GREAT WORK! Thank you!
Thanks! I’m really glad you enjoy my videos and I hope to continue to entertain. Just waiting for better weather right now
used to be an industrial complex in my area that had 5 customers, but the only access to the site was to go through one of the customers buildings, so they built 2 roll down doors and track straight through a hallway to reach the other industries.
That's some creative problem-solving right there!
When I first looked at this I thought it was a model, not the real thing! This is very interesting track work.
I am a retired UP Road Engineer. Tank cars are generally unloaded from the bottom using large flexible piping / hoses. If so in this case they would not be visible in this video. But as you mentioned I suspect they may be stored there. Those large doors on the side of the building suggest that box cars were loaded or unloaded from this track. Another possibility is that both box cars and tanks could both be necessary for this business. Raw materials brought in by tank cars and finished product shipped out in box cars.
That’s the common way for most petroleum products. Usually anything acid based would be unloaded from the top using air pressure instead of a pump. I’ve witnessed both bottom and top unloading/loading for fuel but mainly bottom, can be company policy driven.
Im absolutely loving these new videos!!! I drew a track plan got like 90% played out and didn't like it so I ripped like 80% of it up and these videos have given me great ideas
Great to hear!
Whoa! I saw the overhead in the thumbnail, and couldn't believe it, but, dayum, there it is! Thanks, DJ!
You bet!
Thanks, DJ. You just validated what I did on my Galt's Gulch and Southern. It solved a problem but I always wondered if I was nuts doing it.
Glad I could help validate your ideas!
Great video DJ, that was some tight trackwork to reach the customers for sure, a industrial area I used to haul auto parts to in Laredo TX had
crazy trackwork to the different industries there!!!
You thought you were done doing UA-cam but we drug you back in!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dragged him back in, but yes.
1:15 on a bridge no less! great video and great finds.
Thank you so much for helping us modelers envision our layouts differently.
That's what it's all about.
Pretty cool. Its like when I used to just throw lots of track down, thinking ok.. its not "real life" but it works for now. And BOOM here it is.. something I made once or twice for sure. : ) Nice work Dj
Another fine edition packed with info. Nice job.
Much appreciated!
Holy smokes, I looked up this area on Google Maps and it's wild! There's tracks absolutely everywhere! It truly looks like a model railroad. Very modelable. That's a word now.
Headed back when weather improves
Actually liked that arrangement with the switches and a crossover :)
Thanks for the idea dj
I'm glad you liked it!
Very much.
Now to get back watching your other videos. Nothing else to really do after heart surgery for me (and im only 43)
@@NSNUT2013 Hope you have a speedy recovery.
Thank you. I live about 300’ from my local mainline, so i can watch trains and djstrains too
Get well soon
It even has a creek with bridge to add an interesting element to the scene!
Hi DJ, Another great drone video and yes that track layout looks like something that was planned by a modeler. But also wanted to add, for us ops guys the customers and the types of cars they receive or ship are important. Thank You 3dcritter for adding that missing information. Cheers, Rich S.
All I can say is - AWESOME!
Thanks for your time and effort.
Rich
Thanks Rich!
Definitely implementing this on my layout
Me too in future layout!
What is funny is that I have an 8' x 2 1/2' HO module I built close to 30 years ago (still have it and switch on it) and it is a modified version of the "Port of Los Angeles" track plan that I found in model railroader or railroad model craftsman. It is almost identical to these industries, but it has a run around in the customer area where you have to use the diamond as part of the run around in a figure 8.
Crazy track arrangement! Looks like something in one of those 1970’s Atlas Track Plan books!
My first thought!
Well done DJ ! Great background music for your excellent drone work.
Thanks, I enjoy the music too!
This is interesting! Thanks for sharing this.
You’re welcome!
Cool. My brain likes switching challenge track plans. It got all excited seeing this video.
liquid tankers are unloaded from the bottom and often they use compressed air or liquid nitrogen to push the remainder of the contents out of the tanker.
Also, flammable materials are filled from the bottom to prevent static electricity building up and creating sparky sparky from happening.
Great information
I love seeing your aerial video footage. Being born without wings, I often have to imagine (or use Google Maps) to see railroads from above. That's the beauty of a model layout 😁It allows us to see what we otherwise wouldn't be able to.
Well said!
This is funny, I did the exact same thing with the diamond on my 8' switching layout just because i was limited on space. It's neat to see it in exist in the wild.
That's a really good example!
Great share DJ love the overhead view we get looking at the tracks great ideas Thanks
Fantastic and great timing as I’m working on a track plan currently
Great work! Thank you. Lots of good ideas, roofs, etc.
great ideas. It never gets boring.
Fantastic video! Thanks so much for posting.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice Video
great DJ what a spot to model on a byg layout
Thanks DJ! Your videos are an inspiration.
That's awesome!
@djtrains awesome video and awesome shot from the drone keep up the good work my friend
Very interesting video giving much food for thought - thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That is very cool and would be fantastic on a layout. Great track model ideas as well. Excellent video!
Thank you very much!
This works perfectly for a small class 3 branch line ive built off a class 2 railroad to move the class 3 cars to and from the interchange with a class 1 (off layout staging) im using a WYE to serve as my interchange between the class 2 and 3 railroads ( small 3 track yard to stage cars off the main)
Thank you for sharing this video. Currently getting track plans together for my future model railway. Had to add this idea to the plans : )
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video. Great footage. Cool design on the business layout. Pennsylvania is a beautiful state, been there a couple times. I'm in Nevada & it's rather ugly here.😂imo
Thanks for sharing this video. 🚂🚃🚃🚃
But I love Las Vegas
Neat arrangement! Kind of reminds me of the Kraft-Heinz plant on Forest Ln in Garland, TX. There is a diamond on the complex and it would make for some interesting moves switching tank cars of sweeteners, covered hoppers of grains, and boxcars of packaging and finished products.
Awesome footage! Really cool area, gets the inspirational gears turning.
It sure does. Hopefully I can return when the weather gets better
@@djstrains Yes, would be cool to see it with the trees filled in too.
Good stuff. Shows how to squeeze a number of industries along a section of shelf layout.
Thanks for this. You make me want to get back into model railways.
I hope it inspires you to build something great!
Interesting video DJ. Well done
Much appreciated
Many years ago there was an interesting customer siding arrangement at a scrapyard near B&O's Camden Station on their mainline through SW Baltimore. The scrap dealer was on the outside of a sharp curve. A siding entered the customer's yard from each end of the outer curved track and crossed on a diamond in the middle of the scrap piles. Always thought that would be neat to model in the corner of a layout where the track curves.
Really nice video. Thats a pretty interesting track plan to say the least.
There is a UA-cam video entitled "SP Anaheim Local w/ GP9R 1987" showing switching moves through a spur diamond like the one in this video.
Thanks, will look that up.
Ah yes I actually watched that video very recently. Had to go back and look at it again because I didn't notice the diamond the first time through but yeah on my second look I can see where it is crossing the other spur.
Great work! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
How cool! I worked just down the road in East Butler (where Bonnie Brook crosses 422). A B&P tank train would rumble by every morning on the way to Karns City and Petrolia (well, I think that's where the went) and then rumbled by on the way back to Butler every afternoon. I love trains so it was always nice to watch. When I first saw the drone footage it looked a lot like where I worked it took me a minute to realize it was different lol. Thank you for sharing this. I'll keep an eye out for any more B&P videos. Thanks!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! When spring comes, I’ll drive up to film more
I have two crossings like that on my layout to service different customers in a tight space. It is a great way to save space and get as much in the scene as possible.
It works great for HO and N scale too!
I shared your video on our group page and I really enjoy watching your videos
Awesome thank you!
Very cool!
Hey DJ thanks for this video, I'm a semi-rail fanner, I watch the Techachapi loop youtube channels, but I was thrillled to see this was Butler PA, I grew up in Zelienople, my sister works in Butler,
It was fun to film, the Butler area has some neat spots. Headed back in the future
@@djstrains lots of history there, there used to be a trolley line that went from pittsburgh to Butler.
Hi DJ & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks DJ & Friends Randy
Awesome video thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
That’s pretty cool. This definitely looks like some things I’ve seen on models.
There's a packing foam manufacturer near me that receives tank cars like that customer B. They ship out finished material by truck. There are hoses on the outside of the building that are used to unload the tanks. Since the hoses can be run to the cars as needed, there is only a small access door on that side of the building.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
During the Summer of 1967 I worked as an Extra Operator on the Pittsburgh Div. Over the course of the Summer I worked, FY Tower, Etna, Bakerstown and Eidenau. At that time the P&W was double track all the way to New Castle. Westbound's normally got a helper out of Glenwood for the shove up Bakerstown Hill, where the helpers would cut off a Bakerstown and go back down the grade for their next job.
Thanks for sharing your memories! By 1999, all the towers were gone and it was single tracked. I did catch as few helper jobs out of glenwood. There was almost no straight track only curves, hills, tunnels and anxiety lol
THANKS 👍 DJ FOR THE VIDEO 📹 🙏 KEEP 'EM COMING 💯 SR
More to come
I like the fact that Customer B also has a spot to unload perhaps a flat car or a box car where the white trailer is park. [the little dock on the curve} We tend to see that a lot down here in North Carolina at Southern States and farm suppliers.
There was a similar track arrangement with a diamond on the old "Beltline" in Fairmont, West Virginia. One track went into the old brewery (which later became an Armour meat processing plant after Prohibition hit) and the other track went into a lumber yard. The lumber yard track survived into the 1970s. It's all gone now.
I am always looking for places around with neat track plans near me. PGH, Ohio wv
The roof on customer B would be an interesting weathering project.
Customer B reminds me of a vegetable oil bottling facility in LIC queens. They had a string of tank cars, and they were unloaded by a series of hoses similar to the one on the side of the building. Nothing complicated, just hoses hooked to the underside connections.
Interesting comparison! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the inspiration
You are so welcome!
I thought about asking you to do a video of the Butler B & P and here you are 3 miles from my house!👍 So, will you look at the B & P shop & yards sometime?
I did: RAILROAD ENGINE FACILITIES YOU CAN MODEL (B&P)
ua-cam.com/video/DI_C63ZdMDE/v-deo.html
@@djstrains I missed it. I will look again now that I know where to look. Thanks.
That was very interesting, how about that train setting on the track, which track was the main line?
when the weather gets better, I plan on trying to film some action up there.
Wow another group of dangerously sloped roofs in Butler PA. 💀
HAHAHA!
And it's nice to pay attention to the utility poles and stations....I wouldn't expect anyone unless they work for the power company to know very much about electricity distribution.
It's those little details that make the difference!
What is wild about this track design to me is that, getting back into the hobby, I have come across many small switching layouts that employ a diamond like this to service industries on the left and right side. I just thought it was a brilliant way to make a compact and visually interesting industrial area with multiple industries on a small layout. For my small starter layout, one of my top two designs that I created in SCARM included this feature. It is nice to see such things exist in the real world!
You and me both!
someone needs to model this!!!!
Notice the fall leaves in the ballast accenting the rails.
Interesting. I had a very similar arrangement on a model railroad once, serving two grain elevators, a coal yard and a lumber yard in a small space. I was never sure if that was prototypical. Looks like it was.
I see that diamond cross and think, "I'm already using the plan." Mine is a little more complicated thought. It's one of the nice things about hand building turnouts. You can make whatever you want. You're not limited to what is commercially available.
i play railroads online (narrow gauge game) and thought i had too many switches in a row in an industry yard but seems im good :D
DJ great job and cool music. What more could you ask for? I do have a diamond on my layout. One track for the steel mill and the other is for the grain elevator.
That’s pretty cool
You can foul a switch as long as it's OBVIOUSLY foul. I would say the fouling point is the second car back, or three car lengths from the points. Not an ideal setup cause it's a lot of wasted track just to hold out one car. I'd guess that track went up to the creek at one point, then it was just shortened to add the shed. It has to be shoved pretty tight to the end block to clear too, I'd be nervous spotting and pulling that. Wrap that handy on TIGHT and make your J nice and slow. We spot and pull a fuel rack that has end blocks that close, and pucker factor is elevated when we're bunching the cars up. Already had one crew go through the end...
I totally feel ya on that!
They are cleaning or heating the cars at 5:30 That red and black trailer is a steam generator
Excellent observation
Some great examples of smaller, rail served industries. Street view of customer C shows box cars on that spur. As it's a printing business, could be receiving paper.
Very interesting.
Glad you liked it!
This would be cool to build and switch on my N layout.