something that would actually be really funny is if you did one of these challenges again but used a pirated copy of the game. same premise of "can i beat this game in time to refund it" but at the very end reveal it was a pirated copy and there's nothing to refund. it would probably be even more effective comment bait than this video. love the vid btw
Juat a heads up for everyone, steam will never remove the refund policy even if people do stuff like this, because they legally are not allowed to, they lost a court case in Australia which requires refunds and it is the reason the refund policy exists in the first place, cause it legally has to
Has to exit doesn't have to exist the way it is now They can modify it etc The timelimit they have can chnage, what does and doesn't negative it etc Modification of their refund policy cam chnage AND thar only applies to country that fid that So in certain areas and country they absolutely could still pull it One country rule doesn't go world wide
Oh those poor multi million dollar companies having to put up with some speedrunners and youtubers getting a few refunds. I like the concept and its not going to mess with anything. If a speedrunner fails the challenge it just means more money for them
Didn’t he say he didn’t even refund the game he did reset attempts? Either way if I’m wrong or right aren’t you practicing on the game for more than 2 hours probably on another account why are people mad
Yeah he literally had a whole bit at the end of the video about how he just went for the time and didn’t actually refund the game, and people are still posting comments like “bro you should just go for the time and not actually refund the game, what a scummy thing to do, you will single-handedly ruin Steam refunds for everyone doing this reeeeeeee” 😂
Insert the video clip of the hockey player* saying "itz only game, why you heff to be mad?" *Stanley Cup winning goaltender for the Annaheim Ducks Ilya Bryzgalov
While I do love the concept, I actually prefer when you don't refund games (like this episode) , the past poster had a point, the system isn't for speedruns its for proper complaints.
Honestly yeah. Super cool to see the game beaten so quick but this kinda policy abuse is absolutely going to ruin it for other people with a legit reason to refund. As the saying goes, one bad apple can spoil the bunch.
I mean if you were doing refund challenges for indie games it wouldn't be the same. Also people have to keep in mind that these challenges sometimes mean having to buy the game multiple times sooo...
Steam refunds under 2 hours no questions asked they wont change that because some youtubers are making use of that 😂😂 Maybe the publisher will cry about it but steam wont care
I think these videos are pretty cool and keep them up. I know its going to annoy some people and i get those opinions but i dont think its going to be a big enough shift for changes to get implemented.
Man I love the people in the comments crying because they think this whole concept is something anyone can do and will do They're complaining that it's a scummy practice to beat a game so fast you can then refund it but then you realize even if someone does it they're refunding an ACTIVISION GAME Get your heads out your ass for once
people really delusional if they think beating a game under 2 hours and refunding it is going to lead to policy changes lol! people just like to whine about literally everything nowadays
I've been using steam for 15 years. In all this time they've never granted me a refund that wasn't within the guaranteed period, even when I had 0 seconds of playtime but bought the game 15-30 days ago, and even when I was just a few minutes over 2 hours of playtime while being within the 14 day window. The only exceptions I've heard of where they granted refunds outside of the guaranteed period are for situations like HD2 in early May, 2024, NMS on release, and other situations where the publisher pulled some BS
@@tomboy_kisser I got GTA IV refunded after ~9 hours of play and 20 days of purchase with 10+ achievements. I got helldivers 2 refunded after 150h of play and like 3 months from purchase and all achievements but that was due to a dooming PSN change that did not happen afterall due to many refunds. I got gynophobia refunded after 3 hours of play all achievements no idea when I purchased. You need to keep in mind a bot will decline your first refund if the period expires after that you get a person to talk to and if that doesnt work do it again for another higher person
I'm glad to get shown these kinds of shenanigans but I certainly hope you do it in a more intended kind of way even if it's own for the sake of showcasing :)
So the ethical way (if any cares) I've found to approach refund challenge is: having a burner account/buying 2 keys and only refunding one, so you have still technically bought a copy of the game, therefore supporting the devs.
I mean... Steam has pretty standard rules for returns. You don't HAVE to return it and if you're going as far as your describing anyways, you're literally using the same amount of money. Why not just keep it and accept the time as a win?
They initially forgot to remove a debug feature where you could basically spam a specific button and it just skips through most of the game. That was patched out though, and I'm not sure it was ever possible in the Steam version. But the any% record is 1:17:31 RTA, so 2 hours should be doable.
The devs of the trilogy were sent to the Call of Duty jail because the sales were "lackluster" You never hurt the devs when doing this to AAA games, only shareholders, devs don't get paid more/less depending on the sales
The people that do these challenges have already bought the game, hence how they can practice. They just make a new account to attempt beating the game in 2 hours, and if they don't, that technically is more money to the developers. But if they do beat the game in 2 hours, no money to the developers is lost here, as the game has already been sold to this customer and they didn't intend to buy a second copy. Also, in this video, he never even bought a second copy, he did the attempts on his original copy.
Dude, you should just make an announcement on the old channel with a new vid and juat say you've moved here... I thought you were gone. Like over a year ago. One of the old videos i watched years ago popped up in my feed and it reminded me about you, and i checked the commenrs to see if there was an explanation where you'd gone and that led me here. Think how many literal thousands of views you've lost cos of this. Just make a shitty 10 second video on the EZScape channel saying you're still doing shit here
You realize he didn’t refund the game, as he stated over a dozen times across the video and in comments, and others have pointed out dozens of times, right? Willfully ignorant crybullies gonna do their thing.
Yeah, it's definitely not because of the Minimum Viable Product concept that infected the AAA industry over the past decade with countless devs and marketers giving talks on it. It's definitely not because capitalism doesn't require infinite growth to be sustainable, and making a profit is not enough - the profit must always be larger than the last one or it's considered a failure. Nothing to do with cutting content to sell it back as DLC for more profit, either. Bruh, get some common sense about modern PC gaming before making willfully ignorant crybully comments.
Cyberbullying? Dafuq you on about? I made a valid point, you wouldn’t go and buy food, eat it and then get a refund. Anyway even with the things you listed this is giving them even more reason not to bother its stealing, so what you telling me if you sell something for money, and the arsehole you sell it too wants a refund because they’ve used it for its intended purpose now they want their money back and they abuse the system, you wouldn’t be pissed? Because I know I’d be oh but because a UA-camr does it they are entitled to do so?
the problem with these types of refunds is that it gives companies reasons not to allow it. the few ruin it for the dozens. as long as its below 2 hours youll get the theoretical refund anyway
exactly, he didn't refund it he just went for the time. watch the video before you comment and complain about "ethics" (Activision btw who gives a shit)
You realize that Steam legally can't remove the option to refund a game? It's legally impossible for "the few to ruin it for the many." Get some common sense about modern PC gaming before making willfully ignorant crybully comments.
@@ZZZZordan That why I said concept. Many definitions of concept are applicable here but let's choose: "A plan or original idea". The idea of requesting a refund for a product you have fully consumed is fucked up.
@@DaRealPielover1987 "The idea of requesting a refund for a product you have fully consumed is fucked up." But he didn't. He proved that he can >technically< finish the game in less than 2 hours using glitches that skip ~99.8% of content in the games. Playing ~0.2% of the content (more like 0.1% when you include time trials, etc.) in the trilogy is hardly "fully consuming a game"
I like the fact that I finally get recommended this dudes vids after a long ass time of not even watching him anymore,and the moment I do get a vid recommended from youtube it's of him doing that stupid scummy shit of buying a game and then trying to beat it fast just so that he can get a refund from it,use the fucking refund system to address actual complaints and why you actually should refund the game,if your gonna do it just for clicks and views then it's not worth watching at all,thank god at least a ad plays first before this trash vid would of started anyway
If you watched the video you would have seen how he didn't, in fact, refund the game. He even has a section at the end of the video addressing this. But good to know even if he opened the video with it he wouldn't have stopped braindead reactionaries like you from complaining about something he doesn't even do.
You realize he didn’t refund the game, as he stated over half a dozen times across the video and in comments, and others have pointed out dozens of times, right? Willfully ignorant crybullies gonna do their thing.
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something that would actually be really funny is if you did one of these challenges again but used a pirated copy of the game. same premise of "can i beat this game in time to refund it" but at the very end reveal it was a pirated copy and there's nothing to refund. it would probably be even more effective comment bait than this video. love the vid btw
No thanks
Juat a heads up for everyone, steam will never remove the refund policy even if people do stuff like this, because they legally are not allowed to, they lost a court case in Australia which requires refunds and it is the reason the refund policy exists in the first place, cause it legally has to
Has to exit doesn't have to exist the way it is now
They can modify it etc
The timelimit they have can chnage, what does and doesn't negative it etc
Modification of their refund policy cam chnage AND thar only applies to country that fid that
So in certain areas and country they absolutely could still pull it
One country rule doesn't go world wide
It never ceases to amaze how speedrunners find this stuff. And how sometimes it's just pure luck.
I hope everyone has a good Wednesday. Every other day, you’re on your own.
dude this brought back memories
Oh those poor multi million dollar companies having to put up with some speedrunners and youtubers getting a few refunds. I like the concept and its not going to mess with anything. If a speedrunner fails the challenge it just means more money for them
Didn’t he say he didn’t even refund the game he did reset attempts? Either way if I’m wrong or right aren’t you practicing on the game for more than 2 hours probably on another account why are people mad
Yeah he literally had a whole bit at the end of the video about how he just went for the time and didn’t actually refund the game, and people are still posting comments like “bro you should just go for the time and not actually refund the game, what a scummy thing to do, you will single-handedly ruin Steam refunds for everyone doing this reeeeeeee” 😂
I'd just like it to be known that I did not refund the game to be ethical, but because I am lazy👌
@@SSJ_Derp people are stupid, they'd get pissed if you stole a 25¢ pack of gum
Bad take man you have a sponsor on this video......@@EZScapeSpeedruns
Insert the video clip of the hockey player* saying "itz only game, why you heff to be mad?"
*Stanley Cup winning goaltender for the Annaheim Ducks Ilya Bryzgalov
Just one of the best speedrun channels to follow! Love the content
While I do love the concept, I actually prefer when you don't refund games (like this episode) , the past poster had a point, the system isn't for speedruns its for proper complaints.
Honestly yeah. Super cool to see the game beaten so quick but this kinda policy abuse is absolutely going to ruin it for other people with a legit reason to refund. As the saying goes, one bad apple can spoil the bunch.
@@0tterhead You do realize that Steam legally can't remove the option to refund a game?
Ur over thinking this.... Prolly automated system, so ur making it s waaaaaaaaaay bigger deal than it is lol calm down karnen
@@ThomasMaiensstupid comment, also who is karnen?
@@ThomasMaienssuper stupd comment, also who is karnen?
I mean if you were doing refund challenges for indie games it wouldn't be the same. Also people have to keep in mind that these challenges sometimes mean having to buy the game multiple times sooo...
Steam refunds under 2 hours no questions asked they wont change that because some youtubers are making use of that 😂😂
Maybe the publisher will cry about it but steam wont care
No they said they were changing it
"Mom, i made it into a EZScape Speedruns video!!!"
Real reason you ran Spyro, dragons are cooler :)
Schrödinger's refund.
That last comment is kinda why i didn't refun the first game i speedran on pc. Jokingly got squirrel stapler, and 100% completed it in about an hour
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Will you be posting osrs videos anywhere or only livestreams?
Im definitely gonna do this. Lol
33 mins ago?? My sleep gonna go hard tonight! (I do love the content, but it also helps me sleep cause this kind of content is calming 😌)
Can you do a video about cod zombies easter egg speedruns please
I think these videos are pretty cool and keep them up. I know its going to annoy some people and i get those opinions but i dont think its going to be a big enough shift for changes to get implemented.
Man I love the people in the comments crying because they think this whole concept is something anyone can do and will do
They're complaining that it's a scummy practice to beat a game so fast you can then refund it but then you realize even if someone does it they're refunding an ACTIVISION GAME
Get your heads out your ass for once
i never knew there is crash bandicoot on pc
Almost every game comes out on pc nowadays
@@wayge still waiting on Bloodborne...
The N Sane Trilogy and Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time were released on PC some months after the console launches. They're the only ones though.
people really delusional if they think beating a game under 2 hours and refunding it is going to lead to policy changes lol! people just like to whine about literally everything nowadays
crash bash and ctr are the two best crash games
Cool
kick not going too well?
Good to refund, because scrww Activision
Plz do infinite warfare campaign sr
I'm coming at you bro.. 6k a month.. more like 60k but I love you
since you can always apply for a steam refund and the 2 hours of play 14 days from purchase is just for the guaranteed period...
I've been using steam for 15 years. In all this time they've never granted me a refund that wasn't within the guaranteed period, even when I had 0 seconds of playtime but bought the game 15-30 days ago, and even when I was just a few minutes over 2 hours of playtime while being within the 14 day window. The only exceptions I've heard of where they granted refunds outside of the guaranteed period are for situations like HD2 in early May, 2024, NMS on release, and other situations where the publisher pulled some BS
@@tomboy_kisser I got GTA IV refunded after ~9 hours of play and 20 days of purchase with 10+ achievements.
I got helldivers 2 refunded after 150h of play and like 3 months from purchase and all achievements but that was due to a dooming PSN change that did not happen afterall due to many refunds.
I got gynophobia refunded after 3 hours of play all achievements no idea when I purchased.
You need to keep in mind a bot will decline your first refund if the period expires after that you get a person to talk to and if that doesnt work do it again for another higher person
can you do a video on the simpsons game
I'm glad to get shown these kinds of shenanigans but I certainly hope you do it in a more intended kind of way even if it's own for the sake of showcasing :)
So the ethical way (if any cares) I've found to approach refund challenge is: having a burner account/buying 2 keys and only refunding one, so you have still technically bought a copy of the game, therefore supporting the devs.
I mean... Steam has pretty standard rules for returns. You don't HAVE to return it and if you're going as far as your describing anyways, you're literally using the same amount of money. Why not just keep it and accept the time as a win?
or he can refund the game and you people can stop making shit up and crying about “muh policy abuse!”
Or just get a life
I remember seeing Weegee doing this with Sonic Forces and people were ballistic about it
Crazy how times changed
Times haven’t changed, this is still a horrible video idea
@@NoEphingIdea bro doesn't even refund it 💀 TF are you on about lil bro
@@擢 no shit? Lmao..... doesn't make the video idea any less horrible, use your brain for a sec
@@擢 No sht? Doesn't make the video idea any less horrible
@@NoEphingIdea bad take
what about Crash 4?
They initially forgot to remove a debug feature where you could basically spam a specific button and it just skips through most of the game. That was patched out though, and I'm not sure it was ever possible in the Steam version. But the any% record is 1:17:31 RTA, so 2 hours should be doable.
Crash insane trilogy is way to easy not like ps1 versions
Honestly surprised this concept hasn’t died off since in the end it can really hurt developers
Indie dev yes multi billion dollar company no
The devs of the trilogy were sent to the Call of Duty jail because the sales were "lackluster"
You never hurt the devs when doing this to AAA games, only shareholders, devs don't get paid more/less depending on the sales
The people that do these challenges have already bought the game, hence how they can practice.
They just make a new account to attempt beating the game in 2 hours, and if they don't, that technically is more money to the developers. But if they do beat the game in 2 hours, no money to the developers is lost here, as the game has already been sold to this customer and they didn't intend to buy a second copy.
Also, in this video, he never even bought a second copy, he did the attempts on his original copy.
lmao! the delusion
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Dude, you should just make an announcement on the old channel with a new vid and juat say you've moved here... I thought you were gone. Like over a year ago. One of the old videos i watched years ago popped up in my feed and it reminded me about you, and i checked the commenrs to see if there was an explanation where you'd gone and that led me here. Think how many literal thousands of views you've lost cos of this. Just make a shitty 10 second video on the EZScape channel saying you're still doing shit here
Not the kind of content I watch you for, EZ. but I still hope you have a great day, I just can't morally gel with this.
You realize he didn’t refund the game, as he stated over a dozen times across the video and in comments, and others have pointed out dozens of times, right?
Willfully ignorant crybullies gonna do their thing.
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I’m sorry but requesting refunds for no reason is why game company’s don’t put effort into making games
Yeah, it's definitely not because of the Minimum Viable Product concept that infected the AAA industry over the past decade with countless devs and marketers giving talks on it. It's definitely not because capitalism doesn't require infinite growth to be sustainable, and making a profit is not enough - the profit must always be larger than the last one or it's considered a failure. Nothing to do with cutting content to sell it back as DLC for more profit, either. Bruh, get some common sense about modern PC gaming before making willfully ignorant crybully comments.
Cyberbullying? Dafuq you on about? I made a valid point, you wouldn’t go and buy food, eat it and then get a refund. Anyway even with the things you listed this is giving them even more reason not to bother its stealing, so what you telling me if you sell something for money, and the arsehole you sell it too wants a refund because they’ve used it for its intended purpose now they want their money back and they abuse the system, you wouldn’t be pissed? Because I know I’d be oh but because a UA-camr does it they are entitled to do so?
2 views in 6 seconds? Bro really fell off
bro all im doing rn is falling asleep, goodnight🥱💤
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SHUT UP. SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP I AM SO TIRED OF THESE COMMENTS SHUT THE F UP
@@EZScapeSpeedruns He's just playing with you ur a goat
Let us know if you ever want to give Crash 4 a shot and want to learn the any% strats. 😅
You aren't buying.... the game......
who…. fucking….. cares?
the problem with these types of refunds is that it gives companies reasons not to allow it.
the few ruin it for the dozens.
as long as its below 2 hours youll get the theoretical refund anyway
exactly, he didn't refund it he just went for the time. watch the video before you comment and complain about "ethics" (Activision btw who gives a shit)
You realize that Steam legally can't remove the option to refund a game? It's legally impossible for "the few to ruin it for the many." Get some common sense about modern PC gaming before making willfully ignorant crybully comments.
Pretty fucked up concept still.
He didn't refund it, how is it fucked up ?
@@ZZZZordan because it's obvious that people complaining about that didn't watch the whole video where he DOESNT even refund it 😂
@@ZZZZordan That why I said concept. Many definitions of concept are applicable here but let's choose: "A plan or original idea". The idea of requesting a refund for a product you have fully consumed is fucked up.
@@DaRealPielover1987 But he didn't
He proved that he can finish the game in less than 2 hours, nothing more
@@DaRealPielover1987 "The idea of requesting a refund for a product you have fully consumed is fucked up." But he didn't. He proved that he can >technically< finish the game in less than 2 hours using glitches that skip ~99.8% of content in the games. Playing ~0.2% of the content (more like 0.1% when you include time trials, etc.) in the trilogy is hardly "fully consuming a game"
2 comments in 6 minutes. Bro really fell off.
I like the fact that I finally get recommended this dudes vids after a long ass time of not even watching him anymore,and the moment I do get a vid recommended from youtube it's of him doing that stupid scummy shit of buying a game and then trying to beat it fast just so that he can get a refund from it,use the fucking refund system to address actual complaints and why you actually should refund the game,if your gonna do it just for clicks and views then it's not worth watching at all,thank god at least a ad plays first before this trash vid would of started anyway
You know what dude, if you can timestamp in the video where I bought Crash and refunded it I’ll give you $1000. Just let me know!
@@EZScapeSpeedrunsdon’t play with the trash, that’s how disease spreads. Good vid, keep it up
If you watched the video you would have seen how he didn't, in fact, refund the game. He even has a section at the end of the video addressing this. But good to know even if he opened the video with it he wouldn't have stopped braindead reactionaries like you from complaining about something he doesn't even do.
You realize he didn’t refund the game, as he stated over half a dozen times across the video and in comments, and others have pointed out dozens of times, right?
Willfully ignorant crybullies gonna do their thing.