Watch This Before You Update Live Packs in Live 12
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Since Ableton Live 12 was just released yesterday, you probably already have Live 12 installed if you bought the upgrade. You will notice an option update your Live Packs at the bottom of the browser. While you should update them without a doubt, if you plan to keep Live 11 or earlier installed alongside Live 12, please watch this video first to avoid issues. If not, you might discover that the previous version of Live will no longer support your presets.
Before following my instructions, please close Ableton Live 12, and delete the Library.cfg file for Live 12 to make it work as described here: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/art...
Don't worry if you've already updated your Live Packs; I'll also go over how to resolve the issue where presets that were in Live 11 no longer function after you updated them in Live 12.
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00:00 Why Not To Update Live Packs in Live 12 (Without Adjustments)
02:07 How To Properly Update Them To Avoid Issues
05:12 What About The User Library?
05:47 Already Installed? How To Fix Presets No Longer Working In Live 11 Or Below
07:37 Outro
Thank you for this! I did not know that this was an issue that could happen since I do not remember any issues when upgrading from Live 10 to 11. I'm going to start doing this though since it seems like a good future-proofing method.
Many thanks, this is essential information for trainers like us who need to maintain older versions of Live for teaching and collaboration
You're very welcome. I'm sure there will also be lots of people choosing to keep earlier versions installed at least for a while.. I know I used to do this before teaching Live.
Very good pointing this out. It think it would be great if there was a video with the more general topic of keeping an older version next to 12. How to proceed on installation, which choices to maken and where, to prevent your old work and resources from being (irreversibly) changed or even deleted.
Thanks for the idea. I'll mull it over, but it sounds like a good topic to cover seeing how much interest there is in this video. I might cover how to preserve Live Projects for the future as well.
All you gotta do is install the update and everything transfers over. It’s worked for me since Live 8
Thanks for this Madeleine
No worries. 😃
Thanks for the heads up!
No worries. 🙃
Danke dir. Installiere gerade so,wie du es beschrieben hast ,nachdem ich auch am Freitag mit Nils drüber gequatscht habe. bis jetzt läuft 12 gut . Ob ich zurück muss ,weiß ich noch nicht. Gruß,Enrico.
Live 12 läuft bei mir sehr stabil seit Monaten. Besser als 11 damals.
great info, thank you!
De rien.
solid . .and crucial info. thank you
You're welcome. 😀
Thanks, truly useful
Glad to hear! 🙂
Thanks!
🙂
Hey everyone! It seems Live 12 simply ignores the new Library path, so you need to delete the corresponding file as the very first step. Following along my explanation then works as expected. I've linked the knowledge base article by Ableton on how to do this as a video card. Here it is also: help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/360009323040-Resetting-Live-s-Library
Hi there, thx for the info. On my system (MacBook Pro 2018 with Ventura system) after creating the folders as you described the packs are still updating inside the Live11 Factory folder. But after quiting Live12 and manually copying al the packs from the Live11 Factory folder to the newly created Live12 Factory folder, restarting Live12 and then choose to update the packs they will do so inside the right Live12 Factory folder.
Thanks for adding this information. I did actually quit Live 12 in between and probably should have mentioned it in the video. I always do this just in case the data isn't updated otherwise.
@@sonicbloomtuts He says he manually copied the packs over, not just restart, which also wasn't mentioned and seems to be a key part of the process because I ran into issues as well
@@SyNRGYou're right. Thanks for the heads up. This is new in Live 12 and looks like a bug to me, because if you set a new path for the Live Library it should be recognised and applied, but isn't even after a restart. This wasn't the case in previous versions of Live, so I didn't even consider checking if it still worked. My mistake.
@@SyNRGI've added a link card before the instructions in the video. The Library.cfg file needs to be deleted first to make it work as expected. Otherwise even though the path is set to a different Library, it still points to the one for Live 11, which certainly shouldn't be the case.
I changed the Factory Pack location, and then when I updated one of the packs, it updated in the folder it was already in, not the new Live 12 Factory Pack folder. Only new packs seem to go in the new folder
Yes, I'd added a note, because I only realised this later.
hello! is it worth upgrading from Live 11.X.X to Live 12.0 or is it better to wait until 12.1 or 12.2?
Live 12 has been very stable, so there's no need to wait.
even if I'm working on 11.3 projects? will racks and other saved chains work properly? @@sonicbloomtuts
Be aware of the requirement for an Intel cpu Gen 5 or later with avx2 instruction support!
hi Eanna. I don't know what avx2 means, my CPU is a AMD Ryzen 7 3800X. Is that ok? @@EannaButler
@@hugoacpinthat’s a pretty new processor. Should be fine. Mine is gen 3, 11 years old now. Runs every plugin and daw no problem. Just not Live 12.
I replied to a comment, but my reply has gone (or even the comment?). I found it worthwhile to mention an example of presets gone in subsequent versions of packs. I found it in the Knowledge Base, Preset changes to the Core Library in Live11. I was looking for a preset used in a remake video. So in some versions you could use in some not. Unless....?(I think after reading the comments).
Yes, this can be the case. I've gotten a lot of follow up questions on this tutorial all over social media. I'm preparing to release another one next Tuesday answering as many of them as I can. It's basically going to be all about file structure and management in Ableton Live incl. how to make Live Projects accessible years down the road.
@@sonicbloomtutsIndeed, I realized I had no clue about that kind of things (set vs project for instance) and only today started delving into this. I never gave me any problem though, except for when I moved things and clips were missing in sets, so now I never move things again. I only do this for a hobby, and only when you become a somewhat more advanced user you start to understand the usefulness and even importance of being organized (in the beginning you hardly know what there is that needs being organized, using only three or four tracks, no audio clips editing etc.). But by then it's a mess already. Which wasn't a problem for a long time. But being organized from the start is a large benefit, so an instructive video would be great, I can only applaud it,
@@fritsvanzanten3573I think pretty much everyone makes similar mistakes in the beginning and risks losing files. Even people using Live for years sometimes still do. Knowing how the file structure and management works in Live is essential, so thanks for the idea.
It seems I'm lucky because I didn't know about this issue but my packs and user library are fine in 11 and 12.
Have you tried presets in Live 11 from the updated packs? That's only when you'd see if there is an issue or not.
@@sonicbloomtuts Yes went through a few but not all. The ones I checked are ok and my user library stuff are aslo ok. Glad there wasn't any issues. Thanks for the heads up though Madeleine.
@@sonicbloomtuts I remember a few months ago I read about packs being changed. I saw a table on the Ableton site comparing which content was added and removed in upgrades between 10 and 11. It was after seeeing an video of someone making a track and when I went to search one of the samples used I encountered that table. Edit: looked it up, page Preset-changes-to-the-Core-Library-in-Live-11
@@888WinklerThat's great. If you encounter any issues in the future, you know why and what to do about it now.
Thanks for info, Ableton !! NOT But BIG thanks to you, Madeleine🤩
You're very welcome. 😀
Just saw this video ... 24 hrs too late 😞 ... oh well .... I was planning on keeping L11 for a while longer but only to open old tracks... anything new was going to be written in L12 so I may as well convert all my tracks to L12 and be done with it.
I also have tips what to do when you've already update the packs. It's not a labourous taks to undo.
@@sonicbloomtuts Hi Madeline... I watched your L12 video and your suggested fix looked pretty good... I'll probably end up deleting L11 once I'm more confident using L12 so I'll just open all my old files and re-save in the latest version ... Not a hard job but still a pain in the you-know-what 😋... I haven't written anything new for a while so I suppose it's a good time to just play around and see what falls out 👍👍
Damned ! I don't have ableton 11 folder ! Only Ableton !
Was it me who created it ? Where am i?
Can't tell you where you are, but the Ableton Live 11 folder is something I had created. Your Ableton folder might be the default one.
It's nice of you to take the time to answer me. Is it normal that these updates are so heavy?@@sonicbloomtuts
@@ici1140 It's an upgrade, so yes, they tend to be quite large in size.