-.-. its not aluminum? how many people to complete program? and time? used a 3D laser scanner? its cheating if its not a drawing from scratch or if its scanned
@@marquism5170 -.- Why you asking so many questions? Why those are matters? How come you could define what's cheat and what's not? Cheat for what? Your imaginary competition?
@@jamesbizs I do understand you think I ended up here from a recommendation? Hard part is the drawing bro, knowing the metals and what tools to use. High spindle velocity for aluminum and two edge cutting tool. Wow. All you did was tell the program where to start what tool you used, how fast to spin, feed, etc. you used a code generating program. And still praise yourself.. it’s easy dude. Yeah it’s harder than a 12-axis I’ll give you that but it’s easy and you’re welcome for the comments
@@0205mikibou it’s harder to make a 3D drawing so detailed than to program you idiot, some drawings take months to complete, the drawing will always take more time that the programming. Even with knowledge in both, a helmet by titans of cnc machining you could program that I’m sure but can you do the 3D? Even with a 3d scanner it takes time, get over yourself
I've been working as a cam programmer for many years, and this video still fascinates me. I wish I could try something like this at work sometime. It is one of my lifelong dreams
Even though I am to become a electro engeer, and has been an electrician before I started studying, I am really impressed. I worked in the indusrty, and have seen a lot of nice work and crazy engineering. But this is one of the best so far.
This is an amazing piece of technology. All the intricacies are mind blowing. I mean, I've seen a 5 axis CNC machine cut some pretty tough parts but nothing near this intense. I'm not gonna lie..I'm impressed.
I couldn't even imagine the cycle time on this, and I'm amazed how beautiful the finish is cause it didn't look like there was coolant running on those tools
Adam Sweeting I got a good laugh over you trying to make this person feel stupid while saying "aren't in the 80's NO more" Apparently we don't have to key in decent grammar ANY more either. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You're looking at a few pages for a washer cycle on FANUC 😂 I'd hate to be the setter writting the programme manually for this, when there's 3D CAD software which could simulate the machining process & create the whole programme for you. Doing this manually would take weeks 😱
Vector milling is so dope. I wish we used it in programs at my shop (have 5 axis machines) but it was deemed too difficult for the average mouthbreather operator and only a few of us could figure out how to adjust offsets and fix parts
Sci-fi movie makers are going to have to make their story techs more fantastic to keep up with current advances. Those flicks will inevitably get weirder and more magical.
Just to share some info for those who're curious; 1. This is a CNC machine, machine that can be loosely categorize as a "Mother machine". Machine that can build other machine. 2. There are many cnc machine maker out there. Some of the familiar brand are DMG, Mazak, Mori Seiki, Haas etc. 3. This is a 5 axis machine - 3 axis of rotation & 2 linear axis. Probably it used 2 setup to machine the helmet. 1 from the bottom & the other from above. 4. The whole setup process is not simple (like many have noted). You should have a finalized cad file & then cadcam would help you to produce the rough program. After that you'll have to fine tune the g code i.e. Select the right cutting tools, optimize the speed & feed rate. And before the actual machining is the dry run / air cut / dummy run. 5. Common CAD software to produce the design are solidwork, catia... 6. People tend to underestimate the importance of machine tools but they are more or less involved in manufacturing your stuff.
I disagree with dry run part of your comment. without the stock it won't show any flaws. and when u do nc programming, first thing u do is selecting your tools cam soft uses to calculate paths.. and defientely u ain't manually editing that 5 axis g-code unless u're crazy machininst seeking for a new job
Pawliukaz hahaha, and 3 linear 2 rotary. Look again. I'd like to know final time invested in this broken down into cad, cam, fixture design, setup, tool setup and program verification. To get this to run like that... there are several scrap helmets some where. Not to mention they did this in hypermill - from what I hear it's ridiculous to get good 5 axis (having said I use mastercam and this would be a difficult part imho. I'd probably use msurf with sphere projection. On the inside... idk. I'd see what port expert looked like. Wish I could get that solid, I'd like to play with it.
this is amazing i currently run a 5 axis haas umc750ss and i wish it had spindle orientation, the possibilities are endless, great piece of work and brilliant quality of engineering, hats off to the programmer very well done
5 axis rocks you can really make most anything stronger then most any other method dollar for dollar. What a great example even though the video is many years older now you cannot get tired of seeing this helmet being made what a great biker cyclist trophy that would make.
During IMTS 2010, we Daishin Seiki will exhibit the helmet both at the booth in Open Mind (CAD/CAM Supplier) and DMG (Machine Tool Builder). So you can see it directly at there. If you would be still interested in getting our helmet in your hands after checking the helmet at IMTS, please talk to the representatives either in Open Mind or DMG and leave them your contact information. Then, we can start talking about more in detail about your need from there.
it actually depends on the method of 3-d printing, metal deposition might be a messy ordeal but the binder printers that they use for brass castings can get magnificent tolerances. also 3-d printing can do inside corners with ease and make parts that otherwise would need some engineering work to get them to assemble together. i posit that in the future we'll find that the cnc machines come equipped with metal deposition extruders, a hybrid of the two technologies.
Very impressive. Forget about jealous negative comments below. I am sure the company wants to present their technological capacities, not the product per se.
yeah coz... Cylons are made outof metal, and omg so is this! right? It's so exciting, i can't wait to see what else we can make outof metal. I love this new "metal" technology (oh man i hope i'm pronouncing it right, it's so hard to keep up with all of this new tech.)
Correct me if I'm wrong... but this machine is 6 axis... X, Y, Z, B, C, and the table that seems to tilt 270 degrees at any angle. I count 6. Correct me if I'm wrong. But we just bought 3 brand new mori seiki 5 axis mill/lathes. With all the bells and whistles. And the ones that they offered with the table option were considered 6 axis. So again, please correct me if I'm wrong. We have 48 machines, but just bought our first 5 axis machines.
You are idiots. I am a cnc programmer and this program was done in hyper mill a cnc cad cam software. It probably took between 20-40 hours to write this program and design the fixtures
I wonder how much manual programing was required besides the CAD/CAM system?Though since the helmet wont be mass-produced I guess there was little point in optimizing it...
На основе этого ролика я в бытность свою студенческую во время учёбы в техникуме делал доклад о работе станков с ЧПУ. Сам станок и обрабатываемая деталь являются концентратом инженерного творчества. Вершина искусства.
Since it is processing while repeating a test, exact time is not known. I think that it has taken uncanny time. The quality of the material is aluminum. CAD is catia v5 CAM. It is HyperMILL!
Seems like a very good machine. What was the machine time for this part? How many times was the part turned? I assume it is one part? Does it have an auto tool changer? What program was used, CadCAM? Thanks
Is this 5 axis? The head goes up-down, left-right, front-back. Then it rotates in two axes. But the base, where the material is fixed is also moving. How many axes are there?
@WalterSwartz I assume that it has some form of padding inserted inside. So the metal outside absorbs the hard impact against f.x. the road, while the padding inside softens the impact between your head and the helmet
Most people don't know how their stuff is manufactured actually. And most of them would be amazed by the technology involved for fabricating, say, matches.
Next level. Im a manual machinist and this blows my mind everytime I watch it.
The first material is 120kg. It is 3.6kg at the time of completion.
Thank you for the comment.
-.-. its not aluminum? how many people to complete program? and time? used a 3D laser scanner? its cheating if its not a drawing from scratch or if its scanned
@@marquism5170 -.- Why you asking so many questions? Why those are matters? How come you could define what's cheat and what's not? Cheat for what? Your imaginary competition?
@@marquism5170 I don’t think you understand the work that would go into programming this machine, even from a 3D scan.
@@jamesbizs I do understand you think I ended up here from a recommendation? Hard part is the drawing bro, knowing the metals and what tools to use. High spindle velocity for aluminum and two edge cutting tool. Wow. All you did was tell the program where to start what tool you used, how fast to spin, feed, etc. you used a code generating program. And still praise yourself.. it’s easy dude. Yeah it’s harder than a 12-axis I’ll give you that but it’s easy and you’re welcome for the comments
@@0205mikibou it’s harder to make a 3D drawing so detailed than to program you idiot, some drawings take months to complete, the drawing will always take more time that the programming. Even with knowledge in both, a helmet by titans of cnc machining you could program that I’m sure but can you do the 3D? Even with a 3d scanner it takes time, get over yourself
Man that is insane. I am blown away with the shear precision of this machine
What metal is it?
I've been working as a cam programmer for many years, and this video still fascinates me. I wish I could try something like this at work sometime. It is one of my lifelong dreams
Thank you for your comment. As fellow engineers, we will do our best too!
Even though I am to become a electro engeer, and has been an electrician before I started studying, I am really impressed. I worked in the indusrty, and have seen a lot of nice work and crazy engineering. But this is one of the best so far.
This is an amazing piece of technology. All the intricacies are mind blowing. I mean, I've seen a 5 axis CNC machine cut some pretty tough parts but nothing near this intense. I'm not gonna lie..I'm impressed.
the code for this must be fucking insane
+res1492 Ya and what was the machining time? Very cool.
+res1492 The code is nothing to bother about, the post processor deals with it when you post it from the cadcam.
Of course it does. I just meant that to do it manually would be insane!
Hsko
+Leifi Plomeri The code for the post processor must be fucking insane... :P
I couldn't even imagine the cycle time on this, and I'm amazed how beautiful the finish is cause it didn't look like there was coolant running on those tools
機械だけでここまで細かな仕上げが出来るとは思いませんでした！感動です。
I have a headache just thinking about how long that program was, and how long it took to key.
you don't key shit like that. but you do pay for the bytes to store it.
You don't key it in, the software generates it we aren't in the 80s no more aha
Adam Sweeting I got a good laugh over you trying to make this person feel stupid while saying "aren't in the 80's NO more"
Apparently we don't have to key in decent grammar ANY more either.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You're looking at a few pages for a washer cycle on FANUC 😂 I'd hate to be the setter writting the programme manually for this, when there's 3D CAD software which could simulate the machining process & create the whole programme for you. Doing this manually would take weeks 😱
@Guerilla Gurus calm down dear, you act like he insulted your mother.
Vector milling is so dope. I wish we used it in programs at my shop (have 5 axis machines) but it was deemed too difficult for the average mouthbreather operator and only a few of us could figure out how to adjust offsets and fix parts
Sci-fi movie makers are going to have to make their story techs more fantastic to keep up with current advances. Those flicks will inevitably get weirder and more magical.
As a Biker and a Engineer, all i can say is WOW !!
the best I've seen in my 15 years in the field! this is amazing!
sooo cool!
Just to share some info for those who're curious;
1. This is a CNC machine, machine that can be loosely categorize as a "Mother machine". Machine that can build other machine.
2. There are many cnc machine maker out there. Some of the familiar brand are DMG, Mazak, Mori Seiki, Haas etc.
3. This is a 5 axis machine - 3 axis of rotation & 2 linear axis. Probably it used 2 setup to machine the helmet. 1 from the bottom & the other from above.
4. The whole setup process is not simple (like many have noted). You should have a finalized cad file & then cadcam would help you to produce the rough program. After that you'll have to fine tune the g code i.e. Select the right cutting tools, optimize the speed & feed rate. And before the actual machining is the dry run / air cut / dummy run.
5. Common CAD software to produce the design are solidwork, catia...
6. People tend to underestimate the importance of machine tools but they are more or less involved in manufacturing your stuff.
I disagree with dry run part of your comment. without the stock it won't show any flaws. and when u do nc programming, first thing u do is selecting your tools cam soft uses to calculate paths.. and defientely u ain't manually editing that 5 axis g-code unless u're crazy machininst seeking for a new job
Pawliukaz hahaha, and 3 linear 2 rotary. Look again. I'd like to know final time invested in this broken down into cad, cam, fixture design, setup, tool setup and program verification. To get this to run like that... there are several scrap helmets some where. Not to mention they did this in hypermill - from what I hear it's ridiculous to get good 5 axis (having said I use mastercam and this would be a difficult part imho. I'd probably use msurf with sphere projection. On the inside... idk. I'd see what port expert looked like. Wish I could get that solid, I'd like to play with it.
Anyone else noticing the obligatory generic techno music theme for all these machine cutting videos?
hahahahhahaa yesss
Actually i like it .. :D
Any tech demo worth it's salt has cheesy techno, this is industry standard! :P
It's the patriarchy.
This is incredible, I want one to decorate my living room!
5軸の加工機という言葉は知っていたが
アルミの塊からこのような精巧な形状を
削り出すなんて驚いた。
I don’t know what’s more amazing.
The precision of the machine and the surface finish, or the people that programmed this???
Most likely both with strong emphasis on 'level asian'😉
everyone did a great job
Meanwhile, milling a camera bump on a glass block, is claimed to be a feat of technological achievement by apple.
this is amazing i currently run a 5 axis haas umc750ss and i wish it had spindle orientation, the possibilities are endless, great piece of work and brilliant quality of engineering, hats off to the programmer very well done
Since this was 1 moth ago theyre still active?
Imagine the dude who programmed it,.....total respect!!!!
It is very expensive !
Thank you for a comment !
As someone who actually works in this field, it's fascinating to watch the process!
5 axis rocks you can really make most anything stronger then most any other method dollar for dollar. What a great example even though the video is many years older now you cannot get tired of seeing this helmet being made what a great biker cyclist trophy that would make.
To think only some 300 years ago we were still using a hammer and forge... Mind boggling
During IMTS 2010, we Daishin Seiki will exhibit the helmet both at the booth in Open Mind (CAD/CAM Supplier) and DMG (Machine Tool Builder).
So you can see it directly at there. If you would be still interested in getting our helmet in your hands after checking the helmet at IMTS, please talk to the representatives either in Open Mind or DMG and leave them your contact information. Then, we can start talking about more in detail about your need from there.
Old Skool production. Future is nano. 3D is a stepping stone to it
We didn´t spect less from japanese technology,simply AWESOME!
This would be a super cool trophy
That is one bad ass machine. I wish we would get one in our shop!
*drops jaw by a mile*
Whoa.....that is one sick machine.....
The level of detail is just......perfect.....and the surface finish......WOW!!!
i'm programming the dirt bike to go with it!
+Stan Goers Don't be ridiculous
yeah don't be ridiculous 😏 program the 🚘Ferrari 😎
see you in 50 years then
Absolutely, off-the-chart, unbelievable!! I knew much of what was possible, but THIS is an extreme accomplishment!!??!!
5 axis? It looked like that machine had at least eight to me. Pretty impressive level of detail.
Yahoo！さんの映像トピックスに紹介されたみたいですね。
弊社にとっても大変嬉しいNEWSです。
日本にはまだまだ世界に負けない技術が多くあると思っています。
この動画が広く再生されることで、微力ながら日本の「もの作り」発展に役立てば嬉しいです。
コメント有難う御座いました。
it actually depends on the method of 3-d printing, metal deposition might be a messy ordeal but the binder printers that they use for brass castings can get magnificent tolerances. also 3-d printing can do inside corners with ease and make parts that otherwise would need some engineering work to get them to assemble together.
i posit that in the future we'll find that the cnc machines come equipped with metal deposition extruders, a hybrid of the two technologies.
UA-cam's logic:
2009 nope
2010 nope
2011 nope
2012 nope
2013 nope
2014 nope
2015 nope
2016 nope
2017 nope
2018 nope
2019 yes, now let's show this in recommendations.
@Olias look who's talking
Very impressive. Forget about jealous negative comments below. I am sure the company wants to present their technological capacities, not the product per se.
定期的に見入ってしまいます。一昨年のJIMTOFで本物みて感動したなぁ。
Brilliant. Probably a 3d scan of crash helmet, great detail and finish on it.
I can't stop watching this. Quite an intense amount of badassery.
yeah coz... Cylons are made outof metal, and omg so is this! right?
It's so exciting, i can't wait to see what else we can make outof metal. I love this new "metal" technology (oh man i hope i'm pronouncing it right, it's so hard to keep up with all of this new tech.)
The software is hyperMILL. The clearance of the product is 0.5mm.
Thank you for comment!
The next gen will be the halo suit. Good job! :D
Very nice work. Much better than our old Cincinnati running Himill software.. Totally jealous!!
This is how the world champions trophies should looks like!
Amazing 😧😲
Correct me if I'm wrong... but this machine is 6 axis... X, Y, Z, B, C, and the table that seems to tilt 270 degrees at any angle. I count 6. Correct me if I'm wrong. But we just bought 3 brand new mori seiki 5 axis mill/lathes. With all the bells and whistles. And the ones that they offered with the table option were considered 6 axis. So again, please correct me if I'm wrong. We have 48 machines, but just bought our first 5 axis machines.
amazing even the graphic in another tone.......OMG
すげぇな！！！！！
タマタマ飛ばされて来たら、この映像ｗ
ビックリしました。
この技術は某国には渡してはならないと、激しく思う。
To do this line-by-line would make this guy a god. This had to have been drawn on a CAM or CAD combo.
You are idiots. I am a cnc programmer and this program was done in hyper mill a cnc cad cam software. It probably took between 20-40 hours to write this program and design the fixtures
Wow what software was used?? Looked like UG to me. Some of those clearances between the spindle and part were pretty close.. Nice job.
Wow wow wow!!! Really good job 😯👍
I really like their choice of machines...DMU 60 duoblock...one of the best 5-axis machines anywhere.
I wish I had one of these amazing machines
That won't be a cheap helmet! Amazing to watch too :-)
We certainly appreciate your business and interest in Daishin Seiki Co., Ltd.
Best regards,
I wonder how much manual programing was required besides the CAD/CAM system?Though since the helmet wont be mass-produced I guess there was little point in optimizing it...
I think I'l have sweet dreams of that helmet, and nightmares of the amount of coding that took! lol
Way cool!!!
And this is how the exo-skeletons for the T-800's will be milled from solid titanium. Thanks a lot 5 axis mill.
ドイツと日本の技術は凄いねｗｗ
Impressive. Technology 30 years compared to today has been a huge leap , I cant begin to image 30 years forward. 3D print aluminum parts in seconds
It's not printed. And not in seconds. Miling of this helmet must take many hours
Do you even machine helmets bro?
Gimme a Bridgeport I'll knock you up 1 in a week 💪
Fascinating processing method, five-axis linkage!
im speachless... amazing video!
impressive piece of kit . . . . . amazed by the detail on the helmet!!!
Super work really very nice👏👏👍👍
凄い メッシュ状のところなんか凄まじい
Don’t hate me... but I wonder whether a cast or 3D printed part with CNC finishing might be more efficient...
На основе этого ролика я в бытность свою студенческую во время учёбы в техникуме делал доклад о работе станков с ЧПУ.
Сам станок и обрабатываемая деталь являются концентратом инженерного творчества. Вершина искусства.
well that is quite impressive how two things move in unison to create something as artistic as this
Amazing precision
sooo cool!. Assumption,Question is,what about machines or cad/cam systems?.
Absolut abgefahren was man heute so machen kann !
heaven on earth,5Axis Machine Cutting
More like 7 lol
Since it is processing while repeating a test, exact time is not known. I think that it has taken uncanny time. The quality of the material is aluminum. CAD is catia v5 CAM. It is HyperMILL!
Seems like a very good machine. What was the machine time for this part? How many times was the part turned? I assume it is one part? Does it have an auto tool changer? What program was used, CadCAM?
Thanks
you have to see it to believe it ,, very nice work
I love that helmet. I wish i could have one. :D
A superlative achievement in milling technology.
Mastercam Program 👌👍🏻
just 5 axis ?
how many are there and what are the benefits?
XYZ pitch roll but no yaw.
Ikr closer to 7 was losing count lol
X,Y,Z,C,B (or A depending on if it rotates around X or Y.)
Thats as good as machining gets well done !! Very impressive
Loving the command and conquer style music!
Is this 5 axis?
The head goes up-down, left-right, front-back. Then it rotates in two axes.
But the base, where the material is fixed is also moving. How many axes are there?
@WalterSwartz I assume that it has some form of padding inserted inside. So the metal outside absorbs the hard impact against f.x. the road, while the padding inside softens the impact between your head and the helmet
Most people don't know how their stuff is manufactured actually.
And most of them would be amazed by the technology involved for fabricating, say, matches.
레고픽스 홀더에 60p 1대 레볼루션 한대 저정도 디테일로 작업할려면 프로그램 몇달 짤듯
Really cool, but there are even better machines out there. My dad took classes last year for a 10-axis Tsugami.
wow that is amazing, i just learned the haas 4th axis, dont think ill get this far
great and happy birthday jp firm
No words, just big eyes....
Unbelivable! Awesome! Me want one of those :D
I think this is the first video of it's kind to go 'viral'
It is a correct answer. It designs by using CAD. (Computer Aided Design)Thank you for the comment.
Beyond amazing!
Wonder if the helmet Is actually Better being only 1 piece