The intro makes me believe the "monster" is the previous years winner. The fact that it's running TO a church is suspect. The elders "allow" the winner to leave the town? Yeah, that monster is most definitely the "winner".
This is based off a book, and yes. The winner is taken to a field, shot in the head and a pumpkin seed is put in their head to grow into the new monster.
I have so many questions lol. How did this tradition start? What’s the purpose? Why aren’t people allowed to leave the town? What’s actually outside of the town? If it was that easy to kill the farmer, why did it take this long? If the farmer is dead now, what happens to next year’s winner?
Given that the punishment is a decade of crop failure and chaos while the reward is a year of good fortune for the town, I'd venture a guess that this started because the town was going through great hardship (great depression?). Out of desperation someone either knew of a ritual or found one where there was a great benefit to winning. The entire thing is essentially the equivalent to ancient belief systems of sacrificing people to appease the gods and gain a boon. For not leaving town, its probably to keep the town from withering away. The whole point of this yearly ritual is to keep the town prosperous. Not going to be very prosperous if a majority of people are willing to leave to save their families lives. Dont know if they achieved this through intimidation or simply saying its because of the rules set by the monster. Outside of town? Probably the rest of the world. They gotta get all those corvettes somehow. The farmer? The harvesters guild is the one who knows everything thats going on. They want this to happen as it'll keep them prosperous, so they probably encourage the farmer to do this. Assuming the kid succeeds in getting in the church there probably wont be a winner and if the farmer was the only one who knew how to do the ritual properly its likely the end. Sorry if that was too long. Most of this is my best guess based on what this video went over.
How it started is a helluva since there would need to be a first winner. My question is, is sawtooth jack trying to reach the church for his own salvation? Sounds like the town sacrifices the winner to Satan to keep a good harvest.
The book has it where the town has the power to find anyone that escapes town. The book has the pumpkin slaughter the cops and burns down the town to end the cycle since the deal was prosperity if they succeed the ritual, or utter destruction for failure.
@@sendmorerum8241 it isn't exactly explained. But yes all the adults are in on it. The story talks about a lady that leaves and the officer tracks her down at her new home and puts her down, although i don't recall it specifying how long she was away for. If your kid wins, then you're rich for life. If they don't win then the magic makes all your business ventures in town succeed, so i guess there's also not tons of incentive for people to run away. The kids want to participate because they're told the winner gets a bunch of money and a sports car and is allowed to leave.
The problem with this is that the genre savvy one is typically also the among the first targets. Like, they will probably be focused on before even the black man
even though its a movie, i feel like the ending was really dumb 1. richie decides to mourn which gets im utimately killed 2. why she follow richie and shoot the farmer especially since she knew what happened 3. richies father couldve digged richie back up, maybe not alive but at least so that there wont be another pumpkin head
1. Yeah that was stupid. 2. She probably didn't want to risk her chance at freedom and exposing the town to the outside world and just didn't want to potentially die. This girl didn't know exactly how many cultists were there and if any more were coming. 3. The dad let a new sawtooth be born so sawtooth could take revenge on the town, he's probably planning on joining it to take down the council or at least make them suffer a little bit.
The ending is dumb. The book is much better. I love the book ending. This reminds me of when they change Stephen King's story. It pisses me off. Example: I HATE Stanley Kubricks The Shining. I love the miniseries. I hate Children of the Corn movie. I love the miniseries. I have to say I love Salem's Lot (original ... showing my age) when it came on tv. Now I had not (and haven't) read the book. Too scared to do so. I loved the first The Stand Miniseries and couldn't watch the second one (that came on a few years ago)
so basically they make a monster that will ruin all they’re crops unless the kids murder it b4 it gets too the church. But if one of the kids do it they sacrifice them and they do it again basically a loophole. (R.I.P JIM AND RICHIE)
Dad could have done 3, but then there would be no hope for revenge and would just have a dead son, now he has a demon son with the advantage of time as it seems he was awakened before the normal starting time.
@@arosary2188 Gotta mention The Mist though. The movie changed the book ending to something so much more brutal and insane. Even Stephen King said the movie ending was way better.
@@That-Yellow-Dude dawg I swear too much too well sometimes. UA-cam terminating your channel for "swearing" that's bullshit, youtube wouldn't do something stupid like that
When Richie got hit in the head and fell into the hole, why didn’t the dad or the girl try dig him up?? It would be worth a try to see if he is alive no? How would they know he was dead unless they tried?
@Bentbrokentheory no humans can't go for more than 3 minutes. By the time the farmer moved his farming truck in rl would been too late brain dead if he was still alive.
My guess is this probably happened off-screen. The dad got there too late and he probably did look, saw that his son was dead, so he probably vowed to return in 1 year when the powers of the curse set in so he could then set his son with Sawtooth Jack's powers loose on the town to get revenge. Has to be this, otherwise it doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.
"Are they really willing to let their sons risk their lives for a house and a paycheck?" brotherman you just described the military beat for beat (though the service is still very much appreciated)
thats exactly what i thought! scary how we can put a little spin on real life and make it so scary, but we're so used to actual war and death that it's just normal...
I liked it. Even though it was easy to guess what was going on. The kills were disgusting and brutal. I was cool with the premise. I liked the star-crossed lovers. The sheriff was psychotic. Loved him! And the cinematography. The colors were so rich. I also wanted it to be better. It was very up and down for me, throughout.
protip, if someone gets knocked out and they don't come back in around 30 seconds it means they've suffered severe brain damage and have a good chance of just not waking up again.... if they do they wake up different never let your loved ones "sleep" for 3 days, call an ambulance quickly
So...Richie did all of that, actually killed the police officer only to sit there and cry? No dude u supposed to cry once u actually get out of town!!!
what would make the most sense is to have 2 guns, one for the winner and the other for the one who was brought with him, he couldve kept 1 gun on him to kill the sheriff and the other to shoot anyone else sneaking up on him, and therefore making the chance of survival higher, but if that doesnt work he couldve simply had the other person follow him after the sound of gunfire went off to ensure the winner was ok and wasnt snuck up on by the farmer
Another way is to sacrafice yourself but have a trusted friend since at the last part the girl escaped because the cop didnt know she was there she would have had a chance to get the hell out of there get the cops or government there and then shut down the hole thing yes 1 person died but hey its better than more people dieing
If they did the movie would end faster and movie directors dont want that so they removed the characters: Half of their IQ Common sense Coordination Camper tactics/Ratting Guns Armor
To be fair, offroad is far less easy than people think. All that would of happened is the car got stuck...which then wouldn't of provided the ending the director wanted, because the girl wouldn't be able to drive away.
Its a ritual, they kill kid turn him into the next monster and kill the winner. they get good harvest if they win and cursed if they lose. Its all for personal gain at the expense of the children and a childs life every year
The setup sounds really cool, but yeah, this seems a little easier to beat it they know the destination of the thing. Why isn't the church fortified? Why aren't they using protective gear? Also, I just got to corvette thing, and I'm guessing the boy that wins becomes next year's pumpkin jack.
Judging by how needlessly convoluted and cruel this ritual is, my guess is that whatever higher power the guild serves wants a competition for entertainment, so you have to give the monster somewhat of a chance to get to the church. I had a lot of questions too about how dumb the town is about having to participate in the ritual when they could easily abandon the town or beat the monster for good, but then i remembered that the cruelty and sport was the point. The guild in charge are the only ones truly profiting, and they're willing to sacrifice anyone to whatever demon or god is making this deal. And it has to be a deal through contact with this entity or entities because otherwise, the details and rules of the rituals couldn't be found out by an unsuspecting town just getting attacked by a random monster one day of the year and suffering crop failure.
A few problems I don't understand. I get rituals and the downsides, but if every year you have to do the ritual then eventually you're gonna run out of kids. Since it's a small town and looking all the kids participating, it won't last long. Than the town isn't trying to help the kids survive and win. Not meaning they join, but give them better weapons and training. The kids winning is the goal even if the 1 winner becomes the next pumpkin, better than losing 3-20 kids every year. Than the holding kids in their room for 3 days with no food make no sense. All that does is weaken them a lot. Most of them wouldn't be able to fight or run, not become berserkers. The ritual still happens whether the kids are lock up or not. I rather they said they feed them some ritual drink making them rage. Berserkers irl are people in rage mode that loses all senses and battle without fear or concern for their own well being.
This was summarized very well back in 1987: "Whitman, Price and Haddad..." The way to beat this, - is just to avoid throwing fits of extreme stupidity.
An isolated town where the parents forcefully send their sons to fight a monster annually, then flaunt fanfare when the winner is exiled? Sounds like a cult, though along the lines of The Village (2004) but with a 'what if its real' twist.
@@XperimentorEES well yeah but you mentioned the "what if real twist" for harvest. Village had the "what if real twist". Harvest had the "winner becomes pumpkin head twist"
@@XperimentorEES it's possible that I misread your comment but I'm having a hard time reading any other way. If it helps, I'm autistic so sometimes I make that mistake.
So, the movie implies that the town elders of the past had managed to find some type of magic to create a ritual that would allow a year of prosperity or utter devastation. Deciding the good outweighed the bad, they annually sacrificed their children to the ritual. They lie, starve them, don’t train them, and fill their heads with ‘honor’ about the ritual. Getting the sons into a feral state to cloud their judgement and be more prone to violence. The ritual kept the elders and their supporters in control of the population of the city. The creatures seem to run on instinct and rage but still are themselves; Jim showed that his memories and humanity were still in him after Richie confronts him. Parents, like Jim’s, are given the burden of knowledge as they’re not told the truth until after their child is killed. Jim’s father, Dan (?), snapped from the guilt of knowledge of the ritual. Killing one of the prime elders (the farmer), he frees his son still referring to him as Richie, and sets to end the ritual and take merciless revenge on the city as a whole. I really want to see a sequel where we see Richie as sawtooth Jack take his revenge along with his dad.
ngl i would have made a plan with my friends and as many people as possible to all try to leave at the same time into different directions there isnt that many police officers to stop us all and by going slightly after the first few leave i can ensure the police will follow them first.
I'm still completely and I'm really confused if they're worried about a sandstorm hitting the town by not killing people. Then just leave the damn town.
Yeah, I thought that too until I remembered the jonestown massacre, the town is run by a cult. The harvester guild is either the cult, or directly working for the cult to get profits from a good harvest. The rest of the town is either too afraid because they don't know who to trust if they ever step out of line, or are genuinely too stupid to see the corrupt system they're in.
Guys seriously he wasn’t actually meaning they got a quarter of a million dollars. He was talking about the buying power. Meaning 25,000 back in 1950 or 1960 would be like receiving 250,000 dollars today. A brand new car during 1950 or 1960 cost 1,500 to 2,500 vs today a brand new sports car could cost you on the low end 35,000 to 40,000 dollars today. A brand new house a good one during that time was around 10,000 which would be like 350,000 today. He’s just referring to the buying power, showing you how much the town was paying off the family’s for their silence.
@poggorseel What I mean is how this whole ritual got started. Who introduced it, who was the first Sawtooth Jack. They're are plenty of questions this movie brought up that could be studied with a prequel.
The book is awesome and very different from this movie. For one thing, the main character is not the brother and Sawtooth doesn’t directly kill anyone. Most of the deaths are the results of the boys being stupid. Also, all the adults in town knows the truth about Sawtooth and knowingly send their boys out for one to be killed by those who run the town
Dark harvest was filmed in and nearby my city. I’m a background actor sometimes. Everybody including “production(lights cameras wardrobe)” all said, why not just have them not eat the Candy, then it’s gone. Just kill it once and be done with it. Or keep the candy to make monsters of crimedoers.
I don't think the candy had anything to the ritual apart from some sick joke of a prize for the starving kids. And it can be assumed that the town's harvester guild is a cult that carries out the ritual for profit.
it would probably just repeat with a different family or the girl would have called in the home defense forces to exterminate them ( i dont understand why they do this ritual)
@@riseofnationsdaily9957 I meant like continue from the ending of the first movie, and let the revenge plays out as a closure to the sawtooth's suffering and ritual.
@@ShibaMcDripNu yah, if they continued I think either the girl would’ve called the home defence forces or he would’ve died, new winner this time and the cycle goes on infinitely
I find it questionable how this town can even survive this tradition where large swathes of their children are ritualistically sacrificed. Like if it was a random hunger games-esque lottery for a handful of them it would be one thing, but there's no way they could realistically even raise children at a quick enough rate to keep the town alive of every year half of them were dying. And you cant even make the excuse of other people moving in because who the hell is going to move to a place that basically has NO contact with the outside world (after all they cant leave right?) or alternatively is known for losing so many boys each year. This level of scale isnt something that can be just swept under the rug.
Before watching any further I'll predict that the person who kills the pumpkin and is sent away each year turns into the new pumpkin or is turned into it. We'll see how wrong or right ill be in a bit Edit: very right, was an easy predict tho
This is such a cool premise, but also so easy to beat. One if the easily ways to possibly end this whole thing is to simply just tell people about it. Run to the nost populated areas, scream yo the top of your lungs, expose the lies of the cult-like council people. Someone who has nothing left but vengeance like the father could do it and seem like a crazy person but because the participants ate teenagers it'll at least spread gossip like wild fire and doubt. Guilty parents could probably step up or the teenagers with suspicions could secretly organize a year, possibly more, worth if planning to win or prove the truth. The whole thing is suspicious so if there was a large enough collection of doubt from the participants they would find a way to act on the towns sketchy cult-like traditions
Same thing I was thinking, but I guess that's what the dad was planning at the end of the movie. He told his son to get revenge and one can assume the dad's got a plan to take out the counsel or at least get revenge on the unsuspecting town itself. He just killed the farmer after all, no going back now.
How to beat Sawtooth Jack: 1) Don’t be born in this town. 2) Don’t be male. 3) If you blew the first two, tell no one what you’re planning, find a great hiding place for you and a few days’ worth of food, get there and stay there on Halloween night…
Usually i dont like getting used to certain youtubers and they change? (I understand it happens, yes...but still lol) but this time? I like him hes really funny 😂 and its nice to see this channel grow the way it has
Literally anything but how they approached it would have worked. Anything. That movie made zero sense to me. They acted like nobody's seen it even though a year earlier they literally tore it to bits in the middle of the town. There was zero strategy, zero real weapons (until there were), zero training, not even a single freaking crash course on its strengths and weaknesses or where to lure it to give an ambush maximum chance of overpowering it without casualties. Instead, food-and-water-deprived teens ran one by one into a cornfield at night, wielding spoons.
The movie isn’t meant to be taken literally…it’s an analogue for something in society and we keep men going into the military very ignorant of what’s gonna be happening
You obviously never been a small town kid with big dreams.. 😅 That run is their "only chance" to get out of that isolated super messed up super small town.. That is why he wanna do it in the first place.
It would have been more fun had it not made it clear that the monster was the previous winner. It would have served as a cool plot twist but no way no one saw that coming unless they are new to movies.
This was funny but after watching I understand an aspect of the movie I missed. They need the kids to be starving and ravenous so that they each the entrails. It’s a cycle, and they have to keep people in the town to keep it going.
I think it'd just be best at the start of each hunt for everyone in town to grab a sharp object and rush the monster, then if the winner thing still happens then I guess everyone wins so everyone leaves
The hardest part about movies like these is I think about things from my perspective. Not from someone raised in some isolated, backwards town where people a brainwashed from the beginning to accept that it's just the way things are. I do think I would have figured it out though, even in high school. There's a lot that doesn't add up. He isn't trying to join for the lulz or his ego, he literally only wants to join so he can leave town and go see his brother. I didn't even watch it and I can tell like 1/3 way through the video that's the reason. But my brother and I were really close. I get it. Yeah, the letter proves it. He doesn't want to do the run, he wants to leave so his brother won't be alone. What the hell is this bunker? You know the monster's goal is the church. If you're afraid of dying, literally just wait by the church and let it go past you. And what the hell was the decision to go to the country club? They have the officer's car. Who is going to stop you from leaving now genius? Though I would suspect that past the officer, past the farm vehicle blockade, is some kind of supernatural force that prevents people from leaving. There must be some reason the entire town stays there and continues the ritual, rather than leaving an empty dust bowl behind. So many ways to go about this that don't involve being stupid...
I would tell everyone the truth and tell them not to let anyone know so me and the town would be rolling out the red carpet for sawtooth jack and no one would be able to do anything about it.
He didn't keep it a secret because "it's the town's tradition", he kept it a secret to save his family's lives. Ritchie is the dick head for not understanding that.
"If on Halloween night you were forced to compete in a deadly battle royale, where your goal was to slay a giant, fire-breathing, pumpkin-headed demon, what would you do?" I'd die that's what I'd doo
All he has to do is put a heavy stone on the gas pedal of the car and leave the car on the road. then entering the cornfield, ducking and running away. There is no way two people could find them in that huge field in the middle of the night. Both of these strategies are used by criminals to escape from the police. and both were successful. and the person who put a stone on the gas pedal and tried to escape was being followed by a helicopter. The person who escaped in the corn field was followed by dogs and a dozen police officers.
Maybe I missed it, but... Why is this whole event even a thing? What purpose does it serve? Is there a demon that give them fertile crops or something? Is it halting a demon from rampaging over the earth? The rest of it is pretty decent, but since Saw Tooth essentially was the previous winner, even in mind to a degree, enough to spare his loved ones, then what is the corrupting force and where does it come from? It's not a bad idea, but I don't get how this originated nor why it continues. What is the greater mythos and reason here? I get that this channel isn't explicitly lore oriented, but they usually do go over that too in their summary, so maybe I just missed it or the story forgot about that part.
Having unanswered questions is what makes a story good. Many of these are answered as the story progresses. In this case, there's a book that explains things better (which I haven't read) but I can assure you the movie was decent but didn't answer these questions well enough and leaves you unfulfilled. Some movies leave you with questions and it's a good thing, in this case, it was annoying.
I seen a thumbnail and thought it was the movie trick-or-treat! The lore behind that movie is awesome, I don’t know if you covered it, but I’m about to go look through your channel!
But really the logistics don't quite make sense? If they are getting at the very least one teenager EVERY SINGLE YEAR (with extra deaths depending on how the hunt goes), that town would need to be pumpig out babies like there's no tomorrow and even THEN humans don't grow up anywhere near fast enough for such a short sacrifice cycle to be sustainable? Or that's what I think, I dunno
I noticed something near the beginning at around 4:50 When the winner gets up the table and the point at where the camera is aiming looks kind of similar to the last supper
im only at 9:07 and i think jim is going to be that years " monster " which is why hes not around, and that the post card is one his mom wrote up to give to him. plus the monster is seem wearing jeans. where the fuck would it get JEANS? it seems like the last years winner is taken and expiramented on with surgeries and rituals to be the next monster.
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The intro makes me believe the "monster" is the previous years winner. The fact that it's running TO a church is suspect. The elders "allow" the winner to leave the town? Yeah, that monster is most definitely the "winner".
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I like that theory!
This is based off a book, and yes. The winner is taken to a field, shot in the head and a pumpkin seed is put in their head to grow into the new monster.
@@chaosryans are there multiple movies based off the book? I feel like I watched something similar nerd also covered
@@yesyes4737it's the same movie im pretty sure
I have so many questions lol. How did this tradition start? What’s the purpose? Why aren’t people allowed to leave the town? What’s actually outside of the town? If it was that easy to kill the farmer, why did it take this long? If the farmer is dead now, what happens to next year’s winner?
Given that the punishment is a decade of crop failure and chaos while the reward is a year of good fortune for the town, I'd venture a guess that this started because the town was going through great hardship (great depression?). Out of desperation someone either knew of a ritual or found one where there was a great benefit to winning. The entire thing is essentially the equivalent to ancient belief systems of sacrificing people to appease the gods and gain a boon.
For not leaving town, its probably to keep the town from withering away. The whole point of this yearly ritual is to keep the town prosperous. Not going to be very prosperous if a majority of people are willing to leave to save their families lives. Dont know if they achieved this through intimidation or simply saying its because of the rules set by the monster.
Outside of town? Probably the rest of the world. They gotta get all those corvettes somehow.
The farmer? The harvesters guild is the one who knows everything thats going on. They want this to happen as it'll keep them prosperous, so they probably encourage the farmer to do this.
Assuming the kid succeeds in getting in the church there probably wont be a winner and if the farmer was the only one who knew how to do the ritual properly its likely the end.
Sorry if that was too long. Most of this is my best guess based on what this video went over.
How it started is a helluva since there would need to be a first winner. My question is, is sawtooth jack trying to reach the church for his own salvation? Sounds like the town sacrifices the winner to Satan to keep a good harvest.
I read the book, it's much better. the movie sucked.
@@arosary2188 they usually are
@@xainatus55683I assume for the most part that the corvette is the same one every year. Either with a new color job or at least washed off
The book has it where the town has the power to find anyone that escapes town.
The book has the pumpkin slaughter the cops and burns down the town to end the cycle since the deal was prosperity if they succeed the ritual, or utter destruction for failure.
Damn what's the name of the book?
@@woodlandleshy3876 Dark Harvest by Norman Partridge.
@Mr.Cheese214 obviously he thought "what's the name of the book?"
Did you not read his comment?
And? How does the town find escapees? Every second citizen is a cop, standing in circle around the town?
@@sendmorerum8241 it isn't exactly explained. But yes all the adults are in on it. The story talks about a lady that leaves and the officer tracks her down at her new home and puts her down, although i don't recall it specifying how long she was away for. If your kid wins, then you're rich for life. If they don't win then the magic makes all your business ventures in town succeed, so i guess there's also not tons of incentive for people to run away. The kids want to participate because they're told the winner gets a bunch of money and a sports car and is allowed to leave.
Moral of every horror story: best strategy is to be genre savvy, trust nothing for too long, leave asap, and have a strategy to win
The problem with this is that the genre savvy one is typically also the among the first targets. Like, they will probably be focused on before even the black man
The best strategy is to not be stupid
Winning in this movie is exactly what you dont want to do
What if the previous winner (the monster) decided to leave the town instead of going to the church?
even though its a movie, i feel like the ending was really dumb
1. richie decides to mourn which gets im utimately killed
2. why she follow richie and shoot the farmer especially since she knew what happened
3. richies father couldve digged richie back up, maybe not alive but at least so that there wont be another pumpkin head
1. Yeah that was stupid.
2. She probably didn't want to risk her chance at freedom and exposing the town to the outside world and just didn't want to potentially die. This girl didn't know exactly how many cultists were there and if any more were coming.
3. The dad let a new sawtooth be born so sawtooth could take revenge on the town, he's probably planning on joining it to take down the council or at least make them suffer a little bit.
The ending is dumb. The book is much better. I love the book ending. This reminds me of when they change Stephen King's story. It pisses me off. Example: I HATE Stanley Kubricks The Shining. I love the miniseries. I hate Children of the Corn movie. I love the miniseries. I have to say I love Salem's Lot (original ... showing my age) when it came on tv. Now I had not (and haven't) read the book. Too scared to do so. I loved the first The Stand Miniseries and couldn't watch the second one (that came on a few years ago)
so basically they make a monster that will ruin all they’re crops unless the kids murder it b4 it gets too the church. But if one of the kids do it they sacrifice them and they do it again basically a loophole. (R.I.P JIM AND RICHIE)
Dad could have done 3, but then there would be no hope for revenge and would just have a dead son, now he has a demon son with the advantage of time as it seems he was awakened before the normal starting time.
@@arosary2188 Gotta mention The Mist though. The movie changed the book ending to something so much more brutal and insane. Even Stephen King said the movie ending was way better.
As a professional pumpkin man I can say it is not fun being beat to death by a baseball bat
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@@That-Yellow-Dude dawg I swear too much too well sometimes. UA-cam terminating your channel for "swearing" that's bullshit, youtube wouldn't do something stupid like that
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When Richie got hit in the head and fell into the hole, why didn’t the dad or the girl try dig him up?? It would be worth a try to see if he is alive no? How would they know he was dead unless they tried?
I was wondering this lol they could have saved him
Yeah, that was a genuine case of stupidity right there.
@Bentbrokentheory no humans can't go for more than 3 minutes. By the time the farmer moved his farming truck in rl would been too late brain dead if he was still alive.
My guess is this probably happened off-screen. The dad got there too late and he probably did look, saw that his son was dead, so he probably vowed to return in 1 year when the powers of the curse set in so he could then set his son with Sawtooth Jack's powers loose on the town to get revenge. Has to be this, otherwise it doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.
I was wondering the same thing like it wasn’t that hard
"Are they really willing to let their sons risk their lives for a house and a paycheck?"
brotherman you just described the military beat for beat (though the service is still very much appreciated)
Sometimes
thats exactly what i thought! scary how we can put a little spin on real life and make it so scary, but we're so used to actual war and death that it's just normal...
This is the kind of movie that you enjoy at first and then it gets worse the more you think about it.
I liked it. Even though it was easy to guess what was going on. The kills were disgusting and brutal. I was cool with the premise. I liked the star-crossed lovers. The sheriff was psychotic. Loved him! And the cinematography. The colors were so rich.
I also wanted it to be better. It was very up and down for me, throughout.
I was pleasantly surprised and found it was better than what I was expecting it to be, so overall I enjoyed it!
Yeah, me too, some or maybe all of the comments didn't like it, but I personally think it was great
I enjoyed it too but I never read the book so maybe my opinion would hace been different if so.
protip, if someone gets knocked out and they don't come back in around 30 seconds it means they've suffered severe brain damage and have a good chance of just not waking up again.... if they do they wake up different
never let your loved ones "sleep" for 3 days, call an ambulance quickly
Now it's clear where the boy got the brain damage from
i feel like they drugged him, idk
So...Richie did all of that, actually killed the police officer only to sit there and cry? No dude u supposed to cry once u actually get out of town!!!
Half the movie is about Richie being dumb af
So your telling me in this small country town in the USA... *NOT A SINGLE BOY BRINGS A SHOTGUN*
We don't all own shotguns
@@eviljust9793yeah but enough do
@eviljust9793 Actually, a lot of people did and rifles too during that time period. They even had marksmanship shooting classes for students.
@@eviljust9793yes we do at least one person in every USA town has a shotgun
As an American, I can confirm that I would have brought a shotgun
I'm not an expert, but my theory is the whole movie is an allegory for military drafting Vietnam war style
what would make the most sense is to have 2 guns, one for the winner and the other for the one who was brought with him, he couldve kept 1 gun on him to kill the sheriff and the other to shoot anyone else sneaking up on him, and therefore making the chance of survival higher, but if that doesnt work he couldve simply had the other person follow him after the sound of gunfire went off to ensure the winner was ok and wasnt snuck up on by the farmer
Another way is to sacrafice yourself but have a trusted friend since at the last part the girl escaped because the cop didnt know she was there she would have had a chance to get the hell out of there get the cops or government there and then shut down the hole thing yes 1 person died but hey its better than more people dieing
why is no one talking about how they refused to go on the perfectly flat ground beside the road TWICE when they blocked the road off
ikr, it would make way more sense if the car would just be on only a little fuel to guarantee that it would stop on the road by itself
If they did the movie would end faster and movie directors dont want that so they removed the characters:
Half of their IQ
Common sense
Coordination
Camper tactics/Ratting
Guns
Armor
Because that’s illegal you silly goose
To be fair, offroad is far less easy than people think. All that would of happened is the car got stuck...which then wouldn't of provided the ending the director wanted, because the girl wouldn't be able to drive away.
Make it make fuking sense like wtf
Dark Harvest felt like an extended episode of Supernatural. The only thing they were missing was Sam and Dean Winchester.
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tbh kinda reminds me of a more drawn out version of the episode where they kill the minor god that was giving the small town prosperity for sacrifices
Is the farmer compelled to create Sawtooth Jack cuz all he has to do is NOT create the murderous pumpkin zombie
Financial gain from the harvest.
Most likely it's a sacrifice. Notice how there was a lot of bad fortune if they "lose" the hunt.
Its a ritual, they kill kid turn him into the next monster and kill the winner. they get good harvest if they win and cursed if they lose. Its all for personal gain at the expense of the children and a childs life every year
In the book it's the father of the previous years winner that carves the pumpkin head.
@@esseubo441if they "LOSE THE HUNT" you can't lose the hunt if there isn't a hunt to begin with
The setup sounds really cool, but yeah, this seems a little easier to beat it they know the destination of the thing. Why isn't the church fortified? Why aren't they using protective gear? Also, I just got to corvette thing, and I'm guessing the boy that wins becomes next year's pumpkin jack.
Judging by how needlessly convoluted and cruel this ritual is, my guess is that whatever higher power the guild serves wants a competition for entertainment, so you have to give the monster somewhat of a chance to get to the church. I had a lot of questions too about how dumb the town is about having to participate in the ritual when they could easily abandon the town or beat the monster for good, but then i remembered that the cruelty and sport was the point. The guild in charge are the only ones truly profiting, and they're willing to sacrifice anyone to whatever demon or god is making this deal. And it has to be a deal through contact with this entity or entities because otherwise, the details and rules of the rituals couldn't be found out by an unsuspecting town just getting attacked by a random monster one day of the year and suffering crop failure.
Saw tooth jack looks like if sam from trick r treat hit puberty
lmao true
A few problems I don't understand. I get rituals and the downsides, but if every year you have to do the ritual then eventually you're gonna run out of kids. Since it's a small town and looking all the kids participating, it won't last long. Than the town isn't trying to help the kids survive and win. Not meaning they join, but give them better weapons and training. The kids winning is the goal even if the 1 winner becomes the next pumpkin, better than losing 3-20 kids every year. Than the holding kids in their room for 3 days with no food make no sense. All that does is weaken them a lot. Most of them wouldn't be able to fight or run, not become berserkers. The ritual still happens whether the kids are lock up or not. I rather they said they feed them some ritual drink making them rage. Berserkers irl are people in rage mode that loses all senses and battle without fear or concern for their own well being.
This was summarized very well back in 1987: "Whitman, Price and Haddad..."
The way to beat this, - is just to avoid throwing fits of extreme stupidity.
13:53 being unconscious for more than like 12 minutes would kill you, let alone 3 days!
Im pretty sure its a coma, not unconsciousness.
I love this guy's energy
"Every friend group needs someone to sacrfice (...) or use him as bait." Wait... Shaggy? Like Shaggy?!
My childhood ;(
Shaggy while bait was not a sacrifice because he can bluff his way out of any situation. No matter the universe
All these questions are part of the lore man. It's a great period price it takes place in the 50s or 60s. It awesome.
An isolated town where the parents forcefully send their sons to fight a monster annually, then flaunt fanfare when the winner is exiled? Sounds like a cult, though along the lines of The Village (2004) but with a 'what if its real' twist.
It's less a "what if" and more like "holy shit look at that very real pumpkin-headed demon running around and murking people!"
@@rodneysmith873 I'm plainly picking on the cultish aspect of how nobody's allowed to leave despite the blatant recurring threat.
@@XperimentorEES well yeah but you mentioned the "what if real twist" for harvest. Village had the "what if real twist". Harvest had the "winner becomes pumpkin head twist"
@@rodneysmith873 You misunderstand me, yes both are clearly going for the isolated society realism thing, but the Harvest actually had a monster.
@@XperimentorEES it's possible that I misread your comment but I'm having a hard time reading any other way. If it helps, I'm autistic so sometimes I make that mistake.
So, the movie implies that the town elders of the past had managed to find some type of magic to create a ritual that would allow a year of prosperity or utter devastation. Deciding the good outweighed the bad, they annually sacrificed their children to the ritual. They lie, starve them, don’t train them, and fill their heads with ‘honor’ about the ritual. Getting the sons into a feral state to cloud their judgement and be more prone to violence. The ritual kept the elders and their supporters in control of the population of the city. The creatures seem to run on instinct and rage but still are themselves; Jim showed that his memories and humanity were still in him after Richie confronts him. Parents, like Jim’s, are given the burden of knowledge as they’re not told the truth until after their child is killed. Jim’s father, Dan (?), snapped from the guilt of knowledge of the ritual. Killing one of the prime elders (the farmer), he frees his son still referring to him as Richie, and sets to end the ritual and take merciless revenge on the city as a whole.
I really want to see a sequel where we see Richie as sawtooth Jack take his revenge along with his dad.
Literally...metaphorically society? 🤔
ngl i would have made a plan with my friends and as many people as possible to all try to leave at the same time into different directions there isnt that many police officers to stop us all and by going slightly after the first few leave i can ensure the police will follow them first.
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Honestly it was cooler/creepier when we knew it wasn't a previous winner. I liked the idea of mystery behind it.
They could imply it
Yeah honestly if the movie was juuuust a little more subtle I would call it a masterpiece
I'm still completely and I'm really confused if they're worried about a sandstorm hitting the town by not killing people. Then just leave the damn town.
Yeah, I thought that too until I remembered the jonestown massacre, the town is run by a cult. The harvester guild is either the cult, or directly working for the cult to get profits from a good harvest. The rest of the town is either too afraid because they don't know who to trust if they ever step out of line, or are genuinely too stupid to see the corrupt system they're in.
Guys seriously he wasn’t actually meaning they got a quarter of a million dollars. He was talking about the buying power. Meaning 25,000 back in 1950 or 1960 would be like receiving 250,000 dollars today. A brand new car during 1950 or 1960 cost 1,500 to 2,500 vs today a brand new sports car could cost you on the low end 35,000 to 40,000 dollars today. A brand new house a good one during that time was around 10,000 which would be like 350,000 today. He’s just referring to the buying power, showing you how much the town was paying off the family’s for their silence.
i think he just made a mistake
@oliver-mk it's literally just inflation. $25,000 then would be equal to a bit over $250,000 today due to inflation.
@@Juni_for_short thats just wrong
@@oliver-mk it's literally not. Google it 🤣🤣
@oliver-mk it's literally not
About the first part, id imagine the sawtooth game thing has rules that the adults have found out with lots of games going on over the years
This film needs a prequel to explain why they do this ritual.
I know, dude. The whole time, I was thinking, "What if they just...stopped?"
it gives them great bountiful harvest for a year and brings them wealth
@@poggorseel I feel like that means they're just shit farmers.
@poggorseel What I mean is how this whole ritual got started. Who introduced it, who was the first Sawtooth Jack. They're are plenty of questions this movie brought up that could be studied with a prequel.
@@ztyran oh i see what you mean. that would be interesting but unless the book had a prequel theyd kinda be pulling shit outta their asses
Whenever there is a 'council of elders,' some ish is going down.
22:45 if you don’t want it to get to the church, maybe don’t MAKE it! Just DON’T revive the monster!
Saw tooth jack has ptsd from everyone beating him honestly i feel bad for him
Just watched this movie the other night and loved it. I bought the book and now just have to read it. ❤
The book ends differently than this movie. I prefer the book.
@@katemock8260how does the book end?
@@Destiny15 higher body count; town's in flames; the two MC get away; the cycle is broken.
The book is awesome and very different from this movie. For one thing, the main character is not the brother and Sawtooth doesn’t directly kill anyone. Most of the deaths are the results of the boys being stupid.
Also, all the adults in town knows the truth about Sawtooth and knowingly send their boys out for one to be killed by those who run the town
Dark harvest was filmed in and nearby my city. I’m a background actor sometimes. Everybody including “production(lights cameras wardrobe)” all said, why not just have them not eat the Candy, then it’s gone. Just kill it once and be done with it. Or keep the candy to make monsters of crimedoers.
I don't think the candy had anything to the ritual apart from some sick joke of a prize for the starving kids. And it can be assumed that the town's harvester guild is a cult that carries out the ritual for profit.
You're in the movie and don't understand the basic premise 😂😂😂
I would’ve got a truck and drove through t the corn field till I’m free 31:18
Dammat, def need a sequel to that cliff hanger
ikr
it would probably just repeat with a different family or the girl would have called in the home defense forces to exterminate them ( i dont understand why they do this ritual)
@@riseofnationsdaily9957 The EDF deploys!
@@riseofnationsdaily9957 I meant like continue from the ending of the first movie, and let the revenge plays out as a closure to the sawtooth's suffering and ritual.
@@ShibaMcDripNu yah, if they continued I think either the girl would’ve called the home defence forces or he would’ve died, new winner this time and the cycle goes on infinitely
I find it questionable how this town can even survive this tradition where large swathes of their children are ritualistically sacrificed. Like if it was a random hunger games-esque lottery for a handful of them it would be one thing, but there's no way they could realistically even raise children at a quick enough rate to keep the town alive of every year half of them were dying. And you cant even make the excuse of other people moving in because who the hell is going to move to a place that basically has NO contact with the outside world (after all they cant leave right?) or alternatively is known for losing so many boys each year. This level of scale isnt something that can be just swept under the rug.
Tbh, what would happen if Sawtooth Jack got to the church?
Before watching any further I'll predict that the person who kills the pumpkin and is sent away each year turns into the new pumpkin or is turned into it.
We'll see how wrong or right ill be in a bit
Edit: very right, was an easy predict tho
This is such a cool premise, but also so easy to beat.
One if the easily ways to possibly end this whole thing is to simply just tell people about it. Run to the nost populated areas, scream yo the top of your lungs, expose the lies of the cult-like council people. Someone who has nothing left but vengeance like the father could do it and seem like a crazy person but because the participants ate teenagers it'll at least spread gossip like wild fire and doubt. Guilty parents could probably step up or the teenagers with suspicions could secretly organize a year, possibly more, worth if planning to win or prove the truth. The whole thing is suspicious so if there was a large enough collection of doubt from the participants they would find a way to act on the towns sketchy cult-like traditions
In the book the movie is based off of, the town has a way to find and stop people leaving the town
Same thing I was thinking, but I guess that's what the dad was planning at the end of the movie. He told his son to get revenge and one can assume the dad's got a plan to take out the counsel or at least get revenge on the unsuspecting town itself. He just killed the farmer after all, no going back now.
How to beat Sawtooth Jack: 1) Don’t be born in this town. 2) Don’t be male. 3) If you blew the first two, tell no one what you’re planning, find a great hiding place for you and a few days’ worth of food, get there and stay there on Halloween night…
I’m 99% positive that those are crimson ghost masks. That’s pretty cool.
We are 138
yes it is, and there is 100% no reason it was given to the greasers with a metric fuckton of doyle-brand hairgel /s
Usually i dont like getting used to certain youtubers and they change? (I understand it happens, yes...but still lol) but this time? I like him hes really funny 😂 and its nice to see this channel grow the way it has
That monster is actually the winners who kill the sawtooth jack and when they win, they get to leave but they are the new sawtooth jack
0:06 THE DEPTH OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS 🗣🗣
The moment when the victem become the hunter
The end of this movie was a gut punch 😢 I legit teared up lol
Why, arent you a pretty young thing.
@@strategygalacticnah buddy what💀💀
@@thegoldennugs852 She is pretty. It's a compliment. ZzGo ahead and make a misogynistic saying.
@@strategygalactic buddy mad 🥶🥶
@@thegoldennugs852 Maybe we just have different tastes.
Literally anything but how they approached it would have worked. Anything. That movie made zero sense to me. They acted like nobody's seen it even though a year earlier they literally tore it to bits in the middle of the town. There was zero strategy, zero real weapons (until there were), zero training, not even a single freaking crash course on its strengths and weaknesses or where to lure it to give an ambush maximum chance of overpowering it without casualties. Instead, food-and-water-deprived teens ran one by one into a cornfield at night, wielding spoons.
The movie isn’t meant to be taken literally…it’s an analogue for something in society and we keep men going into the military very ignorant of what’s gonna be happening
Oh I guess he stopped it by waiting for the farmer.
Ngl those skull masks look sick af
Okay, gonna immediately go watch this movie. Great review.
Free on prime ❤
You obviously never been a small town kid with big dreams.. 😅 That run is their "only chance" to get out of that isolated super messed up super small town.. That is why he wanna do it in the first place.
Me in the movie: *trains and trains for the run, and isn’t too disappointed about losing*
It would have been more fun had it not made it clear that the monster was the previous winner. It would have served as a cool plot twist but no way no one saw that coming unless they are new to movies.
This was funny but after watching I understand an aspect of the movie I missed. They need the kids to be starving and ravenous so that they each the entrails. It’s a cycle, and they have to keep people in the town to keep it going.
Fuck that was a crazy movie.
Facts
We gonna ignore the fact that he said that the winner was in California but that card was from new orlens and new orlens is in Louisiana
couldnt they have just surrounded the church every halloween night
I think it'd just be best at the start of each hunt for everyone in town to grab a sharp object and rush the monster, then if the winner thing still happens then I guess everyone wins so everyone leaves
Nothing better to enjoy the long train ride from work
In this case I would be on the side of the "monster" just to see what would happen if it actually reached the church.
The hardest part about movies like these is I think about things from my perspective.
Not from someone raised in some isolated, backwards town where people a brainwashed from the beginning to accept that it's just the way things are.
I do think I would have figured it out though, even in high school.
There's a lot that doesn't add up.
He isn't trying to join for the lulz or his ego, he literally only wants to join so he can leave town and go see his brother.
I didn't even watch it and I can tell like 1/3 way through the video that's the reason.
But my brother and I were really close. I get it.
Yeah, the letter proves it. He doesn't want to do the run, he wants to leave so his brother won't be alone.
What the hell is this bunker?
You know the monster's goal is the church.
If you're afraid of dying, literally just wait by the church and let it go past you.
And what the hell was the decision to go to the country club?
They have the officer's car. Who is going to stop you from leaving now genius?
Though I would suspect that past the officer, past the farm vehicle blockade, is some kind of supernatural force that prevents people from leaving.
There must be some reason the entire town stays there and continues the ritual, rather than leaving an empty dust bowl behind.
So many ways to go about this that don't involve being stupid...
I would tell everyone the truth and tell them not to let anyone know so me and the town would be rolling out the red carpet for sawtooth jack and no one would be able to do anything about it.
He didn't keep it a secret because "it's the town's tradition", he kept it a secret to save his family's lives. Ritchie is the dick head for not understanding that.
"If on Halloween night you were forced to compete in a deadly battle royale, where your goal was to slay a giant, fire-breathing, pumpkin-headed demon, what would you do?"
I'd die that's what I'd doo
Why tf did i put two o's
I'd steal a tank and go hunting for that pumpkin head demon
Never a bad time to go over a god ol death game
All he has to do is put a heavy stone on the gas pedal of the car and leave the car on the road. then entering the cornfield, ducking and running away. There is no way two people could find them in that huge field in the middle of the night. Both of these strategies are used by criminals to escape from the police. and both were successful. and the person who put a stone on the gas pedal and tried to escape was being followed by a helicopter. The person who escaped in the corn field was followed by dogs and a dozen police officers.
6:33 in fact, the ongoing war my country wages revealed that parents DO risk their sons lives for a (not so big) paycheck.
Maybe I missed it, but... Why is this whole event even a thing? What purpose does it serve? Is there a demon that give them fertile crops or something? Is it halting a demon from rampaging over the earth? The rest of it is pretty decent, but since Saw Tooth essentially was the previous winner, even in mind to a degree, enough to spare his loved ones, then what is the corrupting force and where does it come from? It's not a bad idea, but I don't get how this originated nor why it continues. What is the greater mythos and reason here? I get that this channel isn't explicitly lore oriented, but they usually do go over that too in their summary, so maybe I just missed it or the story forgot about that part.
Plot convenience
Having unanswered questions is what makes a story good. Many of these are answered as the story progresses. In this case, there's a book that explains things better (which I haven't read) but I can assure you the movie was decent but didn't answer these questions well enough and leaves you unfulfilled. Some movies leave you with questions and it's a good thing, in this case, it was annoying.
" did he look sharp?" 😂😂😂
The thumbnail looks like ET but he took every drug imaginable 😂
I would get the hell out of town. Why stay? At least make the church into an impregnable fortress. You have a whole year to find ways.
The parents are so evil. No one in their right mind would send their son to war knowing they will probably die
I like the crimson ghost masks
They should make this a series and comic book. DARPA would have a filed day with that pumpkin 🎃 head
The town elders is crazy. Good work on the video.
I seen a thumbnail and thought it was the movie trick-or-treat! The lore behind that movie is awesome, I don’t know if you covered it, but I’m about to go look through your channel!
But really the logistics don't quite make sense?
If they are getting at the very least one teenager EVERY SINGLE YEAR (with extra deaths depending on how the hunt goes), that town would need to be pumpig out babies like there's no tomorrow and even THEN humans don't grow up anywhere near fast enough for such a short sacrifice cycle to be sustainable?
Or that's what I think, I dunno
I noticed something near the beginning at around 4:50 When the winner gets up the table and the point at where the camera is aiming looks kind of similar to the last supper
Just buy a gun and sawtooth Jack is done for.
12:39 "he has glasses, so he can't fight"
Meanwhile himself: 🫃🏻
15:05 also, wtf?
He dressed like joker when be beat Robin with a crowbar
Im just glad to be here watching these
guns? cars with chains to stop the demon? i mean, if a pipe works, the rest will too!
Creepy creature design - love it!
Most of these movies you can easily survive if you have even a slightest survival instinct or common sense
Three days without eating is... annoying but hardly maddening. These kids just don't have any discipline.
Welp they are children so
I love how he says "what would you do" because on all of them my response is just "I would die"
im only at 9:07 and i think jim is going to be that years " monster " which is why hes not around, and that the post card is one his mom wrote up to give to him. plus the monster is seem wearing jeans. where the fuck would it get JEANS? it seems like the last years winner is taken and expiramented on with surgeries and rituals to be the next monster.
Dumb question.
Obviously, we slay the giant pumpkin-headed demon.
It beats all the other alternatives.
The daddy could have dug him up and left with, Keli
Honestly, *because* the strategies were bonkers it should already be obvious you were better off not winning
6:18 perfect set up for a cotton eye joe joke
Pumpkinhead+Children of the Corn