Guaranteed name transfer - This should be a base tool. Gatekeeping security by money is scummy as fuck. Bots currently snipe everything they can so they can RWT names. Complimentary bond - Ok, so annual membership gives me an alt for half the year. I don't hate it. Paid API - Adventurer's Log in RS3, while cool, wasn't robust enough but it was still FREE. If you can provide a ROBUST BASELINE API for free, then /maybe/ I can see developer access being paid. But unless the basekit API is good, this is bullshit. Pause Membership - Why am I paying for this? Add limits. Can't pause every time you logout, has to be X week. I should not have to pay more to be allowed to take a break. Pre-verified account recovery - Why do I have to pay MORE for a system that wants to house my personal data? In their own blog they say stay safe online. Sending my ID to a company in the UK that has a history of corrupt staff is not something I support, let alone am willing to PAY for. Additional security features - Why are we trying to upsell security features? This is an online game, not a security firm. You should be wanting to do this to save money on account recovery costs for your own bottomline, not JUST padding it with upselling. Enhanced player support - Fuck you. Character name reservations - Binding names. This is something that was popular with 1 characters. I don't hate this. Enhanced display name features - The beauty of OSRS is its simplicity. Adding titles and multicolored names detracts from that simplicity. New players may fall for scams more easily if names are being obfuscating by symbols and color changes. Fuck this. Discount for character memberships - I support this, but NOT at the cost of an increase in base membership. I'm not getting MORE game, don't charge me for it. Multi-character membership - I support this, however the cost needs to be in line with my above statement. I'm not getting more game. Stop acting like I'm unlocking an entirely new continent when I just want to alt GWD. Limitations - I struggle with this. Because I feel like there /should/ be a cheaper option for people to get into membership. This NEEDS to be carefully considered. They should have full access to the game, hands down. No ads. Don't lock RL behind a pay wall. I don't know the right way to do this, but I really do like a cheaper option being available to people. Bonds are getting too expensive to be the only option. Community Worlds - Dead content who cares. If I don't interact with them, do I get a discount? If no, why charge me more for it? Specialized Member Worlds - ??????????????????? Just allocate funds to your current servers you fucks.
I like this writeup, pretty much all of it vibes. I'm a cooked & washed multilogger that can technically sustain myself but not in a way that's conducive to continuous play and good mental health.
My account in OSRS is 7.8k days old. Over 21 years of playing this game, thousands of hours, and I still log in. Jagex I promise you the day I log in and see an advertisement in OSRS, I will never return.
private equity about to learn what the sociological effects of a recession are firsthand "why are they so mad???" shout the millionaires from their hill "WE ARE STARVING" reply the people
@@jbillion because private equity is notorious for buying things that have existing cashflow, removing all things which cost money (Employees etc) and then milking the cashflow until the last remainder of good will runs dry.
"We promise the ads will be non-intrusive" as if ads aren't inherently intrusive. They take up space that would always, without question, be better without ads.
The problem is that I *guarantee* this is initiative is being pushed by private equity. It's an absolute plague on our economy as a whole: buying up companies, forcing them to bleed their consumers dry for short-term returns, and then sell the company to the next guy before the long-term consequences appear on a spreadsheet. These guys weren't there 15 years ago.
It is almost like Jagex forgot that OSRS is made up of players who quit RS when they kept pushing terrible updates. We did it once, and we'll do it again. And, from the looks of it, Jagex can't afford to lose the OSRS playerbase since it keeps their company afloat.
You guys act like people will quit over money. You wont. People have not quit over the lack of customer service. People didnt quit any time jagex shit on them, you didnt even quit when eoc came out, you got kicked out and you were crying at the door for something to let you back in and osrs did that. Throughout all of osrs existence there have been so many pivotal moments that NONE OF YOU stood your ground. You have pdf people all over and catered to, you still stand by that, you had corruption from jmods you stood for that, you even had jagex release a statement about false bans in which the numbers they put out were a snot filled spit in your face when the bans are only false if they deemed it to be false. Forget if the subject matters, they release a statement with statistics formulated in such a way the only thing to take from it is they either rightly recognized their player base is braindead idiots, or they have no respect for their paying customers, the same narrative that is proven with customer service being a joke for two decades. Increased membership prices that have brought absolutely nothing that people have been begging for. If you didnt quit before this point you are not quitting over any of it, you will pay 40$ a month to get nothing better than what it os right now and youd pay it per account. Yall have no backbone.
The best devils advocate argument i can make is that someone from upper management is pushing for these decisions and the devs said "fuck it we'll put out a blog to show how bad of an idea that is"
This is for sure what is happening lol like no brainer. Anybody that actually knows the OSRS community would know this is gonna lose them money. Hell, it already has. Ppl are already canceling membership
Still no mtx tho. I'm imagining the oldschool devs holding the line on microtransactions against some boomers who haven't played any games since donkey kong or pong. Boomer: "So you got a mobile game? Just sell them some gems or a slot machine or something" Jagex: "You just don't understand. Let me show you how much of a bad idea this is"
ngl, I ALMOST want to see it happen. Cause first time around I guess wasn't a wake up call. Jagex should be fighting back against their new owner on this, providing concrete proof of what happens when you do a 180 on a game
@@TheVastoLordes barrows is unironically my favorite pvm activity. over 2k kc, 1 item short of green log. Modern day PvM is very different and my interests didn't follow. Just going to max and call it a day. Game has too much content now and along with all the plugins that help players track xp per hour etc no one hangs out in lumbridge and just socializes anymore, everyone is going from point A to point B as fast as possible making sure to fletch along the way!
@@KEKW-lc4xi i found some sharks on the ground in farming guild not too long ago and as i was picking them up somebody else started picking them too. i cried about it and they traded them over so i told them to wait and traded them back 100k for the 3 sharks they stole from me off the ground
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you have an automated appeal system that works, but isn't low iq friendly, not even easy to find it selling direct human support for a price is fair, cheaters dont let them offer for free bcuz they appeal all (spam/ddos)
@@BTChanOSRS Back before AI and automated support, Jagex had real customer support staff. So if they got rid of that staff, why didn't the price of membership go down?
If "We like to start controversies because it shows us what players care about most" is their actual mindset they need to get a new fucking PR department lol
They want us to pay them for all the hard work OUR community does building runelite plugins + wiki tools because their client isn't good enough for a 2025 game...
I’m guessing the investors pushed for better returns and so the Jagex team decided to take away all the community hard work and sell it back to us. From customer support, increased membership prices, ads during gameplay, etc.
It’s just greed. Grinding Gear Games (PoE and PoE 2) released so much content all for free, while solely getting income from cosmetics and QoL (extra bank tabs). even though it’s not an MMO, I believe PoE 2 is crushing it rn, just because their game is extremely solid and never has been ruined by corporate greed (Whereas Diablo 3 and 4 on the other hand…). Jagex doesn’t seem to learn from their mistakes. I’ll drop OSRS the second I see an ad popup or any other nonsense
@@v380riMz POE was also made so when you hit end game and havent spent at least 20$ in stash tabs then you cant progress. bad take on this. thats like saying warframe isnt greedy. no game company cares anymore. gaming turned capitalist so now everyone wants their fair share of the cut
I love how honest you are about your feedback despite the fact that you are a content creator for this game. Props for the critical analysis and not allowing jagex to hold these things above your head even in your position.
Walking suits need to learn already why OSRS is far more popular than RS3 and it is not simply the combat system. Any of this makes it into OSRS and I will RWT my account and quit.
theyre going to add it to both versions so that argument is enhanced considering the amount of players left in rs3. If they kill rs3 off then rwt will absolutely come to osrs
@@thefallencoghonestly the only reason I don't come to osrs is because i need to pay again to play both games at the same time, since i need another account. Bond prices are too high in rs3, i can't play enough to buy them for a second account. Only reason why I'm still playing at all is because I'm grandfathered in at $6/mo. Not even the 12 month bundle packs match that value.
Most ceos who work in the gaming industry do not even understand the industry they are working at. They treat it like a normal business when it isn’t. Just look at Ubisoft went from $22 stock price to $2 in 4 years.
I can't believe Jagex saw record numbers of people in game and great hype for the future of the game and thought you know what I think we need to make MORE money. This could kill the future of the game.
The only non black pilled way I can view this, is the osrs devs gathering data to show the out of touch private equity company what will happen if they do any of it. But even then, its a bad sign because the need to do that would show that the owners dont trust or listen to the devs.
honestly I don’t even see that working, all the private equity needs to do is threaten leaving and Jagex has to say yes, or face being bankrupt one way or another, I hope im incredibly wrong because this situation is such a mess to even hear about
What's disgusting about this to me is that runescape is one of the ONLY games I know that the entirety of the playbase is willing to pay 10$ a month to play the game or a significant amount of time gathering gold for said membership. The most people usually pay for a game is ~ 60$ , I and most other runescape players have spent thousands of dollars on membership, and they still want to add more things that you have to pay for. This game is funded directly by the players. 3 accounts a month for a few years adds up enough already....
I quit today. My post is on the front page of reddit confirming as such. There will be no fally riot from me. There will be no looking longingly from the other side of the glass. There is no "no wait don't!" opportunity for Jagex. Done. Over. It's been fun but I really am not enjoying the game direction lately or corporate pissing in my pass and saying it's water.
At this point I will be joining you shortly lolol, game is fun but its such a huge time investment and now possibly an even more huge monetary investment... way too many games to choose from for me to justify this lol
When I heard the news this morning I quit as well. Cancelled my subscription and uninstalled the game. It was a good run, but it looks like RuneScape is dying for the second and likely the final time.
The fact that this company is exploring ways how to make money does not mean it's immediately greed. Having a company is different than being a nerd with plenty of money who doesn't have a job or a company that plays a game for more than 5000 hours a year.
@@Laflamablanca969 Yeah i think the difference here is Jagex was being treated as an investment by those other firms. This firm seems to want to keep Jagex and milk it for all its worth
@@Laflamablanca969 to add onto this Mat K when he worked for jagex said numerous times they had to push back on MTX from investors because they simply don't understand how quickly that would kill the game
The current partnership (2 groups) bought it in like March of last year. Carlyle had it before and I was scared when they first bought it but they mostly left the game alone and sold it for a profit and didn’t act too investment groupy tbh
This is honestly disgusting. Selling us customer support is honestly ridiculous. To top it off we have to pay even more to recover our stolen accounts. They are spitting in our faces.
If i gave my honest opinion on this, i would have the fed knocking at my door within an hour. This is fucking absurd beyond belief, im tired of the games i love dying because of greedy old assholes at the top. Im maxed gm, and if i have to quit, i will. I dont want to, but i will
You guys don’t seem to realize that OSRS has already hit its peak. We’re talking about Sailing, potential Raids 4 tied to Sailing, and all the usual hype (AKA GOING TO BE SHIT). But let’s be honest, the peak of this game is behind us. Can’t you see it? They keep pushing out boring, meaningless content, and now they’re sneaking in features designed to squeeze more revenue out of each player. This is just the beginning, but the decline will pick up speed. Mark my words, this game won’t last another five years. The population will drop significantly throughout 2025 and 2026, and they’ll keep shoving more cash-grab content at players to turn a profit. Find a new game, lads.
The title summarized it very well. Start cutting costs JaGeX, fire some people, stop wasting money and stop expecting the players to foot the bill for your bad business.
They had to know this wouldn’t go well, this is shit we’ve been asking for a very very long time or things we already have but at an additional cost. We already pay too much for this game. They need to get that through their heads. I know it’s a business and they’re trying to make money. But the average player who has played 5+ years has spent upwards of 400-500 dollars just in the membership of 1 account and they have 100,000+ committed players. Hell almost 20k players have dragon cup right now. Think about how much each of those individual players has spent on this game already. And they want more and are willing to take away things we already have and make us pay more for those things. Insane behavior especially considering the major L that this delve boss will be if they don’t listen to the community. Genuinely depressing
The only way I'd happily pay like 30-45$ is if it gave you 30 days of INGAME membership, meaning your membership timer only ticked down when logged in. So if you only play 3 hours a day your 30 days effectively lasts for 240 irl days
Honestly makes a lot of sense. If shorter afk timers would save them money on bandwidth, this more than anything would incentivize people to not idle for so long with 25 minute timer.
I don’t like how quick the response blog came out. It makes it seem like Jagex got told they need to push this and knew how it was going to be accepted.
I think the improved data access is more than just Hiscores. It sounds like they're talking about exposing additional data (clog, combat achievements, etc) via an API that developers can pull to build things around. Great feature but charging extra for it seems silly
I don't even know if they are going to go through with all of this, but just the fact that they are thinking about adding it is enough to make me want to quit. I don't even know if I want to play the game anymore, knowing that there are people in upper management with this kind of mentality.
Shareholders dont give a shit about the game, in there eyes if it dies it dies. Jagex dont want this, even if people quit and the shareholders see the game dying infront of there eyes, theyll just keep pushing it as far as itll go. Somebody at jagex NOW needs to dig there heels in and say we absolutely cannot let this happen. If they dont, and any of this shit comes to pass this year. The game will be dead within months
They don't like how membership gives access to all members content. This is literally asking to turn the game into RS3, a failed shitshow. Greedy idiots still haven't learned from their very own mistakes.
I dont think jagex is actually suggesting these prices as much as they are stress testing (they are still checking to see what they can get away with) but even if they add all the features we asked for without increasing prices the fact they posted this survey to begin with is harmful and shows they are out of touch because even if they are just stress testing it is very obviously inflammatory and upsetting to see them even ask do they not have a public relations guy to tell them people will be mad?
this shit comes to game, CEO of private equity about 2 get Tbed, Dspeared and maced outside a macdonalds like the healthcare CEO and the only question ppl will be asking if he got smited for his +1
I've already giving this company more money than any other video game company in the world paying for membership over the last 20 years. The fact that we can't get support or guaranteed account recovery without paying extra is insanity. That should just be a thing to ensure you have a thriving player base. I HATE THIS.
Seriously. My 2nd most playerd game is minecraft and I bought that for 10€ like 12 years ago. But I've spent $100s on osrs memberships, and would be willing to continue doing so, but they really want to milk me for more? Ill just go back to fuckin minecraft man
@ibenofun that's disgusting, they probably see it as "oh we're not milking them, they refuse to pay, so we will kick them out-take their accounts until they pay"
@Geo-Media they don't say it, but it's implied when they say "members account support" then "premium" I already had one account hacked, banned, then they deleted it during that issue with one of the mods. Bypassed all the security measures in less than 2 minutes and emptied the account. I reported it, got banned. Contacted support then they deleted the account. Lol if that's with "support" I don't see it improving even if you pay extra
Wellp, time to cancel the membership renewal and max b4 the end of the year. Forcing us to pay even more for everything we already have? Absolute idiots.
I used to feel like you were rather elitist within the community, but Ive had a growing appreciation for you lately. This video finally earned my sub. Thankyou gnomonkey for standing up for the community in this matter.
the currency of player's good will being spent on "we're just seeing the boundary bro dont worry" The higher ups better be spending their fat bonuses for fancy clown make up and suits
I'm someone who quit after the removal of free trade and has followed but not played the game since. It's been sad to see major events that have forced players out time and time again. The OSRS community seems to be thriving and it would be sad to see another huge blow after so many years of seeing it recover. I really hope they don't do this to all of you players.
worst part is that they promised to remove treasure hunter for a higher membership, which alot of people were looking forward to, and lo and behold, they are still a thing, and now it’s going to happen again, and no mention of even removing a single thing from treasure hunter, what a joke
@@boofhitter21 ikr yesterday it was pestilent torva armor override and today we get rainbow dragonbreath override? blatantly ramping up usage for bonds with no signs of stopping as well. and they keep adding currency we cant store in currency pouch that comes from tresure hunter. taking extra bank space that we have to pay REAL money or bonds for while in osrs they can pay GP
Jagex is so fucking scummy. Granted it ALMOST makes sense that they continue to do this to RS3. They can use it to print money because the community is already used to being abused, and it lets them profit while keeping OSRS mostly untouched. Keeps a much larger community happy while they get to farm whales in a less popular game. Except the game likely wouldn't be less popular than OSRS if not for the abuse in the first place. And now this survey makes me think they really would turn OSRS into RS3 the first opportunity they got. It's as if they haven't learned anything over the past decade.
@@gimiron that complimentary bond sounds fucking terrible for the economy aswell, unless you can’t make them untradable, which i hope to god is what they do wait till they introduce account boosts and ironman mtx somehow, it’s already egregious that I have to shell out literal money for INGAME bank space and auras, gatekeeping ingame mechanics like achievements behind a higher membership along with having no ads is bullshit, if i paid for it, i should have it, hacking off a part of the game so you can sell it to us sounds like something Bungie would do.
Guaranteed name transfer - This should be a base tool. Gatekeeping security by money is scummy as fuck. Bots currently snipe everything they can so they can RWT names.
Complimentary bond - Ok, so annual membership gives me an alt for half the year. I don't hate it.
Paid API - Adventurer's Log in RS3, while cool, wasn't robust enough but it was still FREE. If you can provide a ROBUST BASELINE API for free, then /maybe/ I can see developer access being paid. But unless the basekit API is good, this is bullshit.
Pause Membership - Why am I paying for this? Add limits. Can't pause every time you logout, has to be X week. I should not have to pay more to be allowed to take a break.
Pre-verified account recovery - Why do I have to pay MORE for a system that wants to house my personal data? In their own blog they say stay safe online. Sending my ID to a company in the UK that has a history of corrupt staff is not something I support, let alone am willing to PAY for.
Additional security features - Why are we trying to upsell security features? This is an online game, not a security firm. You should be wanting to do this to save money on account recovery costs for your own bottomline, not JUST padding it with upselling.
Enhanced player support - Fuck you.
Character name reservations - Binding names. This is something that was popular with 1 characters. I don't hate this.
Enhanced display name features - The beauty of OSRS is its simplicity. Adding titles and multicolored names detracts from that simplicity. New players may fall for scams more easily if names are being obfuscating by symbols and color changes. Fuck this.
Discount for character memberships - I support this, but NOT at the cost of an increase in base membership. I'm not getting MORE game, don't charge me for it.
Multi-character membership - I support this, however the cost needs to be in line with my above statement. I'm not getting more game. Stop acting like I'm unlocking an entirely new continent when I just want to alt GWD.
Limitations - I struggle with this. Because I feel like there /should/ be a cheaper option for people to get into membership. This NEEDS to be carefully considered. They should have full access to the game, hands down. No ads. Don't lock RL behind a pay wall. I don't know the right way to do this, but I really do like a cheaper option being available to people. Bonds are getting too expensive to be the only option.
Community Worlds - Dead content who cares. If I don't interact with them, do I get a discount? If no, why charge me more for it?
Specialized Member Worlds - ??????????????????? Just allocate funds to your current servers you fucks.
Great take. if Jagex reads any comment I hope its this one
@ the one time I don't shitpost pls
amazing take
Are there no titles in os like there is in rs3? That's the only "name enhancers" that i can think of which would be good. Otherwise, yeah.
I like this writeup, pretty much all of it vibes. I'm a cooked & washed multilogger that can technically sustain myself but not in a way that's conducive to continuous play and good mental health.
Wtf duradel just assigned me 10 unskippable ads
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opens a window in game about oxi clean with game sounds set to 100%.
Skip a slayer task watch th9s ad or pay 500 slayer points
Lmaooooo 😂💀💀
S tier comment
My account in OSRS is 7.8k days old. Over 21 years of playing this game, thousands of hours, and I still log in. Jagex I promise you the day I log in and see an advertisement in OSRS, I will never return.
This is an average player by the way 🤣
100% I'll go back to what few rsps will be left after your wipe
Private equity about to find out how petty osrs gamers are.
private equity about to learn what the sociological effects of a recession are firsthand
"why are they so mad???" shout the millionaires from their hill
"WE ARE STARVING" reply the people
Idk why people keep saying private equity like public corporations don't have the exact same motivations...
@@jbillionbecause it's more precise language
The most recent buyer asked a lot of questions and didn’t like the answer… so this is what happening 😢
@@jbillion because private equity is notorious for buying things that have existing cashflow, removing all things which cost money (Employees etc) and then milking the cashflow until the last remainder of good will runs dry.
"We promise the ads will be non-intrusive" as if ads aren't inherently intrusive. They take up space that would always, without question, be better without ads.
(As im pray flicking inferno/colosseum and accidently click an add that drags me to some bullshit shamwow page)
(in cg)
(Ad plays "World's loudest chainsaws" for sale)
(Dies on HC)
Who wants to play a mobile game lmfao cheap af. They are trying to ruin our game literally
Do they not realize this is the same playerbase that dropped the game in mass 15 years ago?
We WILL do it again.
100%
exactly!! you would think they learned from the first fk up
The problem is that I *guarantee* this is initiative is being pushed by private equity.
It's an absolute plague on our economy as a whole: buying up companies, forcing them to bleed their consumers dry for short-term returns, and then sell the company to the next guy before the long-term consequences appear on a spreadsheet.
These guys weren't there 15 years ago.
@@Mason500. how can they learn when they just bought the company? lmao let them cook and we will throw it in the fking trash
I started playing in 2020 but if any of these changes go through I will drop this shit in a heartbeat
OH BOY I HOPE THEY ADD A WHEEL THAT GIVES ME FORTUNE WITH A QUIRKY NAME MAYBE SQUEAL OF FORTUNE
lowkey this is a good idea
LMFAOOOO😂😂😂😂 petty
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Tbf at least we’re adults now and not children/teenagers blindly getting introduced to gambling lol
It is almost like Jagex forgot that OSRS is made up of players who quit RS when they kept pushing terrible updates. We did it once, and we'll do it again. And, from the looks of it, Jagex can't afford to lose the OSRS playerbase since it keeps their company afloat.
this better do numbers
theyre asking the same things to rs3 players who also are unsubscribing because of this.
In 2024 Ubisoft decided to speed run bankruptcy.
Now in 2025, Jagex says "hold my beer".
You guys act like people will quit over money. You wont. People have not quit over the lack of customer service. People didnt quit any time jagex shit on them, you didnt even quit when eoc came out, you got kicked out and you were crying at the door for something to let you back in and osrs did that.
Throughout all of osrs existence there have been so many pivotal moments that NONE OF YOU stood your ground. You have pdf people all over and catered to, you still stand by that, you had corruption from jmods you stood for that, you even had jagex release a statement about false bans in which the numbers they put out were a snot filled spit in your face when the bans are only false if they deemed it to be false. Forget if the subject matters, they release a statement with statistics formulated in such a way the only thing to take from it is they either rightly recognized their player base is braindead idiots, or they have no respect for their paying customers, the same narrative that is proven with customer service being a joke for two decades. Increased membership prices that have brought absolutely nothing that people have been begging for.
If you didnt quit before this point you are not quitting over any of it, you will pay 40$ a month to get nothing better than what it os right now and youd pay it per account. Yall have no backbone.
Cancelled already ❤
The best devils advocate argument i can make is that someone from upper management is pushing for these decisions and the devs said "fuck it we'll put out a blog to show how bad of an idea that is"
This is for sure what is happening lol like no brainer. Anybody that actually knows the OSRS community would know this is gonna lose them money. Hell, it already has. Ppl are already canceling membership
@shawosrs i just hope whoever was pushing these ideas gets fired
Still no mtx tho. I'm imagining the oldschool devs holding the line on microtransactions against some boomers who haven't played any games since donkey kong or pong.
Boomer: "So you got a mobile game? Just sell them some gems or a slot machine or something"
Jagex: "You just don't understand. Let me show you how much of a bad idea this is"
@ This is exactly what is happening. Even if the devs didn't intend for it to and simply had no control, they KNOW this is gonna backfire hard.
Thats not your take. I've been seeing this on dif vids and reddit threads all morning lol
This is a 1000% quit rate within a month.
ngl, I ALMOST want to see it happen. Cause first time around I guess wasn't a wake up call. Jagex should be fighting back against their new owner on this, providing concrete proof of what happens when you do a 180 on a game
Let's hope ppl join in on a mass quit and canceling memberships
i unsubscribed because of this
I just canceled my annual membership
Report jagex to UK gambling committee. They don't take that shit lightly
Id love to be forced to watch a 30 sec ad when im already dry on a boss
leagues task... get 50 ads...... 400 points
Bro going over rate on Vard, I’ll blow my head smoove off if I get an Nord VPN ad every other kill
@@kevinriley9480"Get a complimentary ultor ring drop with your next annual subscription with NordVPN - exclusive offer, not available in game"
What if that ad improved your RNG? /s
i’d actually kms 😂
This will 10000% be the death of this beautiful game if this proceeds. Please don’t do this Jagex
Old school old school RuneScape is starting to sound amazing
End game of barrows, kbd, and kq. I'd rather just quit lol
Excited Sae Bae noises
@@TheVastoLordes barrows is unironically my favorite pvm activity. over 2k kc, 1 item short of green log. Modern day PvM is very different and my interests didn't follow. Just going to max and call it a day. Game has too much content now and along with all the plugins that help players track xp per hour etc no one hangs out in lumbridge and just socializes anymore, everyone is going from point A to point B as fast as possible making sure to fletch along the way!
@@TheVastoLordes ive never been interested in high end pvm tickmaster bullshit. i'd be happy with barrows and KQ being the highest skillcap
@@KEKW-lc4xi i found some sharks on the ground in farming guild not too long ago and as i was picking them up somebody else started picking them too. i cried about it and they traded them over so i told them to wait and traded them back 100k for the 3 sharks they stole from me off the ground
can't wait for my tilepacks to be 1 dollar each
That's optimistic, only $1 each
Tile packs only available for platinum+ membership. $65.99 a month and you get access to the report player button as well as the change worlds tab!
Oh my rod…
We're sorry, you've hit your limit of 10 free marked tiles! =((( Would you like to add more tiles to your subscription? 100 tiles / $5 / month! (per character)
Nah the "we're going to sell you access to *community developed plugins*" is top tier bullshit. Actually disgusting what they're doing here
Lets sell you what you worked hard to developed for free for us. Insane
A morally bankrupt company from a morally bankrupt nation, I'm not surprised. 😂.
-get hacked
-don't have the tier 4 subscription
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Better not take a break either non members have 0 support 😂
@@ibenofun gotta pay my jagex rent
you have an automated appeal system that works, but isn't low iq friendly, not even easy to find it
selling direct human support for a price is fair, cheaters dont let them offer for free bcuz they appeal all (spam/ddos)
@@BTChanOSRS Back before AI and automated support, Jagex had real customer support staff. So if they got rid of that staff, why didn't the price of membership go down?
This makes me not even want to play anymore
Just them having the idea and actually putting it out there as a possibility.
Just cancelled my membership. They've shown us what they plan to take, inch by inch.
Right? The fact that they're EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT is kind of depressing.
For real.... I might quit tbh hahah
9:00 "we were just checking what your reaction would be to us spitting in your face."
Lmfao
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If "We like to start controversies because it shows us what players care about most" is their actual mindset they need to get a new fucking PR department lol
They want us to pay them for all the hard work OUR community does building runelite plugins + wiki tools because their client isn't good enough for a 2025 game...
100000000%
Because their client isn't good enough for a 2007 game
This part
I’m guessing the investors pushed for better returns and so the Jagex team decided to take away all the community hard work and sell it back to us. From customer support, increased membership prices, ads during gameplay, etc.
We are 40 years old playing a game for kids, no wonder they want us to pay for it because we can Hella afford it
"Improved customer support" 100 times 0 is still 0
You were reading reddit earlier i see
we wont even be able to afford the membership to riot in Falador over this.
f2p Fally riots. Have to watch an ad to stand idle though.
you will need to pay extra to go to Falador.
they really are going to kill the game twice
Jagex's take is so bad here. "We already provide less than every other payed MMO,, and we're ready to provide even less unless the price is right."
It’s just greed. Grinding Gear Games (PoE and PoE 2) released so much content all for free, while solely getting income from cosmetics and QoL (extra bank tabs). even though it’s not an MMO, I believe PoE 2 is crushing it rn, just because their game is extremely solid and never has been ruined by corporate greed (Whereas Diablo 3 and 4 on the other hand…).
Jagex doesn’t seem to learn from their mistakes. I’ll drop OSRS the second I see an ad popup or any other nonsense
@@v380riMz POE was also made so when you hit end game and havent spent at least 20$ in stash tabs then you cant progress. bad take on this. thats like saying warframe isnt greedy. no game company cares anymore. gaming turned capitalist so now everyone wants their fair share of the cut
“This is topping the drama calendar of the year” GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 16
I love how honest you are about your feedback despite the fact that you are a content creator for this game. Props for the critical analysis and not allowing jagex to hold these things above your head even in your position.
Props to Jagex for helping give Gnomonkey free UA-cam content... 🤣
You mean taking away his current job…..
"This survey is about learning, not making decisions in a vacuum"
For something not in a vacuum this sure sucks a lot
Walking suits need to learn already why OSRS is far more popular than RS3 and it is not simply the combat system.
Any of this makes it into OSRS and I will RWT my account and quit.
theyre going to add it to both versions so that argument is enhanced considering the amount of players left in rs3. If they kill rs3 off then rwt will absolutely come to osrs
@@gimiron The remaining RS3 players are loyal to RS3. If they quit, they aren't coming to OSRS.
@@thefallencog yeah rs3 players are not going to come to osrs....
MTX will come to osrs they will try to milk osrs after rs3 dies...
Thats what i ment
@@thefallencoghonestly the only reason I don't come to osrs is because i need to pay again to play both games at the same time, since i need another account. Bond prices are too high in rs3, i can't play enough to buy them for a second account.
Only reason why I'm still playing at all is because I'm grandfathered in at $6/mo. Not even the 12 month bundle packs match that value.
Most ceos who work in the gaming industry do not even understand the industry they are working at. They treat it like a normal business when it isn’t. Just look at Ubisoft went from $22 stock price to $2 in 4 years.
I can't believe Jagex saw record numbers of people in game and great hype for the future of the game and thought you know what I think we need to make MORE money. This could kill the future of the game.
The only non black pilled way I can view this, is the osrs devs gathering data to show the out of touch private equity company what will happen if they do any of it.
But even then, its a bad sign because the need to do that would show that the owners dont trust or listen to the devs.
honestly I don’t even see that working, all the private equity needs to do is threaten leaving and Jagex has to say yes, or face being bankrupt one way or another, I hope im incredibly wrong because this situation is such a mess to even hear about
the devs are just as guilty for pushing woke ideology. they are out of touch as well.
@@boofhitter21 Unfortunately that sounds incredibly likely....
@@michaelwilder9938 time for the age of private servers then
RS3 has been milked, there now coming for us.
Next thing they’re gonna sell is you can banks stand buy loot boxes and max your character.
100% Cancelled Membership on Both accounts because of the recent updates. I'm maxed, and I am done with this terrible game.
Lemme get ur gear xd
Good luck in the real world brother
Ill take your shadow/scythe/t-bow
Scavengers 🤣
Brother, you're probably on right now.. Pipe down.
This is like feeding your dog something horrible, watching it die, then getting a new dog and feeding it the exact same thing
Correlation does not equal causation. Maybe dog 3 will do better..?
What's disgusting about this to me is that runescape is one of the ONLY games I know that the entirety of the playbase is willing to pay 10$ a month to play the game or a significant amount of time gathering gold for said membership. The most people usually pay for a game is ~ 60$ , I and most other runescape players have spent thousands of dollars on membership, and they still want to add more things that you have to pay for. This game is funded directly by the players. 3 accounts a month for a few years adds up enough already....
Your innate cynicism and sarcasm is perfect for this type of video lol. Unironically a perfect response to this bullshit.
Time to take a membership break until they realize how disrespectful this is.
As per the blog nonmembers have no security aka your account is up for grabs. 😅
@@ibenofun lotta high level bots bouta pop up
@@ibenofun oh nooooooo guess I’ll go play a different game shucks
That's a long break considering what went down in 2011.
Absolutely disgusting. They should be ashamed.
I quit today. My post is on the front page of reddit confirming as such.
There will be no fally riot from me. There will be no looking longingly from the other side of the glass.
There is no "no wait don't!" opportunity for Jagex.
Done. Over. It's been fun but I really am not enjoying the game direction lately or corporate pissing in my pass and saying it's water.
Jagex is beyond salvation. Rs3 has been milked dry. Now its time for osrs
At this point I will be joining you shortly lolol, game is fun but its such a huge time investment and now possibly an even more huge monetary investment... way too many games to choose from for me to justify this lol
When I heard the news this morning I quit as well. Cancelled my subscription and uninstalled the game. It was a good run, but it looks like RuneScape is dying for the second and likely the final time.
Ill be selling over 2.5 bil gold today and quit as well
The fact that this company is exploring ways how to make money does not mean it's immediately greed. Having a company is different than being a nerd with plenty of money who doesn't have a job or a company that plays a game for more than 5000 hours a year.
The moment a private equity firm bought Jagex I knew exactly this would happen.
Brother jagex has been handballed around by private equity firms for years. Several firms have owned it and sold it for huge profits.
@@Laflamablanca969 Yeah i think the difference here is Jagex was being treated as an investment by those other firms.
This firm seems to want to keep Jagex and milk it for all its worth
@@Laflamablanca969 to add onto this Mat K when he worked for jagex said numerous times they had to push back on MTX from investors because they simply don't understand how quickly that would kill the game
@@Laflamablanca969brother he already said he knew from the moment they started doing that this would happen r u ok?
The current partnership (2 groups) bought it in like March of last year. Carlyle had it before and I was scared when they first bought it but they mostly left the game alone and sold it for a profit and didn’t act too investment groupy tbh
Rule number 1, NEVER make a free feature paid.
not even gacha games are this greedy
You underestimate the power of Gacha trying to milk whales...
Honestly top comment
How did this guy stand there and say all this with a straight face is what amazes me
2025 starting off strong to be a wild year for osrs
This is honestly disgusting. Selling us customer support is honestly ridiculous. To top it off we have to pay even more to recover our stolen accounts. They are spitting in our faces.
Private equity ruins gaming: example no. 9001
The hedge fund will probably Thanos Snap half of the male characters into brave lesbian females of color next to get EU DEI grants 😂
"You dont quit you just take a break"
Jagex: you sure about that?
Your trust is incredibly important to us, and we are committed to ensuring that any future changes align with the spirit of the game you love.
Yuck
Gets to zuk - 30 second ad LMAO
If i gave my honest opinion on this, i would have the fed knocking at my door within an hour.
This is fucking absurd beyond belief, im tired of the games i love dying because of greedy old assholes at the top.
Im maxed gm, and if i have to quit, i will. I dont want to, but i will
Kinda hypocritical when you buy ca boosts, gp and inferno/collo etc though.
@@freddiet8639 yeah cuz every single player does that right? smh
@@freddiet8639just cause you can’t do that content doesn’t mean other people can’t
$25 is fucking insane. I’d rather just watch it die at this point than watch it turn into even more of a pile of shit.
You guys don’t seem to realize that OSRS has already hit its peak. We’re talking about Sailing, potential Raids 4 tied to Sailing, and all the usual hype (AKA GOING TO BE SHIT). But let’s be honest, the peak of this game is behind us. Can’t you see it? They keep pushing out boring, meaningless content, and now they’re sneaking in features designed to squeeze more revenue out of each player.
This is just the beginning, but the decline will pick up speed. Mark my words, this game won’t last another five years. The population will drop significantly throughout 2025 and 2026, and they’ll keep shoving more cash-grab content at players to turn a profit.
Find a new game, lads.
The title summarized it very well. Start cutting costs JaGeX, fire some people, stop wasting money and stop expecting the players to foot the bill for your bad business.
They had to know this wouldn’t go well, this is shit we’ve been asking for a very very long time or things we already have but at an additional cost. We already pay too much for this game. They need to get that through their heads. I know it’s a business and they’re trying to make money. But the average player who has played 5+ years has spent upwards of 400-500 dollars just in the membership of 1 account and they have 100,000+ committed players. Hell almost 20k players have dragon cup right now. Think about how much each of those individual players has spent on this game already. And they want more and are willing to take away things we already have and make us pay more for those things. Insane behavior especially considering the major L that this delve boss will be if they don’t listen to the community. Genuinely depressing
Prepare for their PR response. "OHH but it's not about runelite at all.. We just want to sell you Ardougne and Camelot in our Membership+ package."
The only way I'd happily pay like 30-45$ is if it gave you 30 days of INGAME membership, meaning your membership timer only ticked down when logged in. So if you only play 3 hours a day your 30 days effectively lasts for 240 irl days
that would be amazing
or just never login anymore and it will last forever.
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Honestly makes a lot of sense. If shorter afk timers would save them money on bandwidth, this more than anything would incentivize people to not idle for so long with 25 minute timer.
I don’t like how quick the response blog came out. It makes it seem like Jagex got told they need to push this and knew how it was going to be accepted.
I think the improved data access is more than just Hiscores. It sounds like they're talking about exposing additional data (clog, combat achievements, etc) via an API that developers can pull to build things around. Great feature but charging extra for it seems silly
It does sound like putting the "Character Achievements" tab behind a paywall
I don't even know if they are going to go through with all of this, but just the fact that they are thinking about adding it is enough to make me want to quit. I don't even know if I want to play the game anymore, knowing that there are people in upper management with this kind of mentality.
Wait they thought about charging MORE to pay for a second character than the first character? wtf?
How is this worse than stuff EA has pulled?
They’re charging us now to not put ads in the game lol like literally threatening to give us aids
Anything a company puts out in a survey they are fully willing to implement.
Yup, they probably already have things in a beta mode testing it as we speak...
Dropped my membership today (: now it’s wait-and-see
Shareholders dont give a shit about the game, in there eyes if it dies it dies. Jagex dont want this, even if people quit and the shareholders see the game dying infront of there eyes, theyll just keep pushing it as far as itll go. Somebody at jagex NOW needs to dig there heels in and say we absolutely cannot let this happen. If they dont, and any of this shit comes to pass this year. The game will be dead within months
Having to charge more money is one thing, I get it. Charging us for things that should be given as standard, that is garbage.
Both are complete garbage, which favour bottomless corporate greed
They don't like how membership gives access to all members content. This is literally asking to turn the game into RS3, a failed shitshow. Greedy idiots still haven't learned from their very own mistakes.
This new owner really has jagex by the balls huh
"Watch this 30-second ad for 30 minutes of unlimited gear switching in the wilderness!"
"The wilderness is Optional, therefore this ad is seen as uninvasive"
Lucky for us we have actual precedent for leaving the game due to bad changes
Wow... Brighter Shores looks better by the day.
Might get a healthy influx of new players if this goes through.
Now that's a step too far
That game is shit
Having to pay for better account recovery is insane
I dont think jagex is actually suggesting these prices as much as they are stress testing (they are still checking to see what they can get away with) but even if they add all the features we asked for without increasing prices the fact they posted this survey to begin with is harmful and shows they are out of touch because even if they are just stress testing it is very obviously inflammatory and upsetting to see them even ask
do they not have a public relations guy to tell them people will be mad?
this shit comes to game, CEO of private equity about 2 get Tbed, Dspeared and maced outside a macdonalds like the healthcare CEO and the only question ppl will be asking if he got smited for his +1
dont forget that voidwaker spec.
07 scape really has a new meaning now. We'll be saying goodbye before long...
Enhanced player support means we'll get even less support than previously!
😂
0*100 is still 0
Just when people thought that Wildy removal or EoC were worst decisions Jagex ever made
I've already giving this company more money than any other video game company in the world paying for membership over the last 20 years. The fact that we can't get support or guaranteed account recovery without paying extra is insanity. That should just be a thing to ensure you have a thriving player base. I HATE THIS.
Seriously. My 2nd most playerd game is minecraft and I bought that for 10€ like 12 years ago. But I've spent $100s on osrs memberships, and would be willing to continue doing so, but they really want to milk me for more? Ill just go back to fuckin minecraft man
There was literally just a membership price increase within the last year, game is on the way out lads.
They must be getting cocky with people coming back for leagues.
Just started playing again and they're already trying to make me stop. 😂
And just the idea of this especially paying for longer afk timers is grimy.
And they're saying your account is up for grabs if you aren't actively paying for a membership. 😅
@ibenofun that's disgusting, they probably see it as "oh we're not milking them, they refuse to pay, so we will kick them out-take their accounts until they pay"
@Geo-Media they don't say it, but it's implied when they say "members account support" then "premium" I already had one account hacked, banned, then they deleted it during that issue with one of the mods. Bypassed all the security measures in less than 2 minutes and emptied the account. I reported it, got banned. Contacted support then they deleted the account. Lol if that's with "support" I don't see it improving even if you pay extra
Honestly after this disrespect they should be lowering membership.
If ANY of these "features" go live. Im never touching osrs or runescape 3 again.
Runescape suiciding a second time is going to be craaaazzzy
PAY TO GO AFK WHAT THE FK 😂
like there isnt a plugin for that already, its a joke
@ a plugin on runelite that they’re possibly going to try and charge you to use…. Uh huh…
I cant wait to get a scythe drop sponsored by taco bell
Wellp, time to cancel the membership renewal and max b4 the end of the year.
Forcing us to pay even more for everything we already have? Absolute idiots.
If they add even a slice of this, I am outa here!
"We're here to safeguard you... from us."
15:16
lol
I used to feel like you were rather elitist within the community, but Ive had a growing appreciation for you lately. This video finally earned my sub. Thankyou gnomonkey for standing up for the community in this matter.
Completely missed they had recorded a video explaining their mad ideas. Insane.
You can see the pain in the JMods eyes when he's delivering the message😂😂😂
Who let Keir Starmer into Jagex? What the hell
the currency of player's good will being spent on "we're just seeing the boundary bro dont worry"
The higher ups better be spending their fat bonuses for fancy clown make up and suits
membership renews in 4 days. looks like im cancelling.
They should just scrap bonds and keep the irl price the same or lower a bit.
I'm someone who quit after the removal of free trade and has followed but not played the game since. It's been sad to see major events that have forced players out time and time again.
The OSRS community seems to be thriving and it would be sad to see another huge blow after so many years of seeing it recover. I really hope they don't do this to all of you players.
RIP official client and HD mode
Shame for the poors, you don't get a secured account or guaranteed account recovery. Jagex hates poors.
All of this while they have a whole version of the game dedicated to raking in as much money from their players as aggressively as they possibly can.
Theyre also asking rs3 players the same questions
worst part is that they promised to remove treasure hunter for a higher membership, which alot of people were looking forward to, and lo and behold, they are still a thing, and now it’s going to happen again, and no mention of even removing a single thing from treasure hunter, what a joke
@@boofhitter21 ikr yesterday it was pestilent torva armor override and today we get rainbow dragonbreath override?
blatantly ramping up usage for bonds with no signs of stopping as well.
and they keep adding currency we cant store in currency pouch that comes from tresure hunter. taking extra bank space that we have to pay REAL money or bonds for while in osrs they can pay GP
Jagex is so fucking scummy. Granted it ALMOST makes sense that they continue to do this to RS3. They can use it to print money because the community is already used to being abused, and it lets them profit while keeping OSRS mostly untouched. Keeps a much larger community happy while they get to farm whales in a less popular game.
Except the game likely wouldn't be less popular than OSRS if not for the abuse in the first place. And now this survey makes me think they really would turn OSRS into RS3 the first opportunity they got. It's as if they haven't learned anything over the past decade.
@@gimiron that complimentary bond sounds fucking terrible for the economy aswell, unless you can’t make them untradable, which i hope to god is what they do
wait till they introduce account boosts and ironman mtx somehow, it’s already egregious that I have to shell out literal money for INGAME bank space and auras, gatekeeping ingame mechanics like achievements behind a higher membership along with having no ads is bullshit, if i paid for it, i should have it, hacking off a part of the game so you can sell it to us sounds like something Bungie would do.
alot of the security features seem like its designed to encourage 3rd party services (training, zuk, etc), with OTPs and more ensured recovery.
jesus fuckin christ. thats bad
Just canceled my subscription. Even the idea of implementing ads, micro-transactions and restricted gameplay is enough to turn me off the game.
Let’s all quit