[Hearthstone] Rest In Peace Dreadsteed
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0:26 Turns out Magma Rager tier is preeeetty good...
"Why don't we just make it so that dreadsteed triggers after defile is completely done instead of at the end of your turn?"
Don't be fucking ridiculous, that's impossible let's just delete the card
TwistedAttitudes logic too great for blizzard to understand.
FireFraction so I really dont get something, why is it triggering at the end of the turn so bad?
TwistedAttitudes Blizzard is a small indie company, its to hard to reprogram things this way
+Kernel Popcorn, the Sarcastic can combo it with umbra eg.
Kernel Popcorn, the Sarcastic Dreadsteed is a bad card as is. Unless you build a deck around filling your board with Dreadsteed using Baron Rivendare, Umbra, or KelThuzad. At which point you have a like tier 3 meme deck. End of turn activation kills that combo because you can't summon 4+ Dreadsteed from 1
Blizzard just need to script it so that if defile is cast. The dreadsteads only appear after the effect is done. They've done this before with other cards. Wild pyromancer and silver hand spells are an example. Just the opposite effect. You cast, they summon then pyromancer triggers. Just do it like this. Cast defile. After it kills, then resummon. Just like C'thun works with dreadstead. The dreadsteads only get summoned after he is done casting. If they go through with this nerf atleast nerf the mana of dreadstead to 2-3
Malohn but it DOES only appear after defile is cast. yhe problem is that of defile kills something. it REcasts itself. so it goes. "defile" "steed respawn" "defile" steed respawn" etc etc
Why? It's a bad card. No one plays it. The dreadsteed DOES appear after the effect is done. That's why it breaks the game, because the effect finishes, the deathrattles trigger, and defile's effect triggers and re-casts the spell.
1:06 power went out :c
Skipperino Kripperino You gotta beat Skipperoni!
Skipperino Kripperino, don't you think it's time to hang it up? You aren't getting any younger.
How good are smartphones Kappa
FunkyKillerJim He is going to write untill his last breath
[Sadstone]
he seems genuienly sad
Herdatec We're all genuinely sad
Nerfing Dreadsteed cuz of Defile?
Littlefinger 01 that's exactly why. They should've just made an exception imo
You're a small guy!
+Teacherino For Kripperinos Kripperino Grim Patron + Posessed Villager also fucks the game
Honestly, they could have addressed the issue by making Dreadsteed a 1/2. But nope, inelegant solutions is what Hearthstone is all about.
For you.
Man, I remember when i crafted this little son of a beach when first came out. He was so fun to play, with anama golem and other stuff. RIP to the STEED
The deck needs malganis as well
I was searching for that comment
Or at least a crystalweaver
TOTAL CORRUPTION, TOTAL PAWAAAA
I wondered, why it not had Mal'ganis
Paul Brown the eternal turtle
Did anyone else notice that in this video the change to dreadstead would be a buff? It removes the danger of filling your board with 1/1s and it still works with Spiritsinger Umbra. It's only a nerf if you are trying to use Kel Thuzad, Baron Rivendare, and you only have 1 dreadsteed.
This are the videos that I love and why im still subscribed to the Kripparran
Dreadsteed Warlock was my favourite deck ever in Hearthstone. Shame to see it go.
They should just change the effect of defile to trigger all it's instances before deathrattles activates
Then it'd be worse against stuff like Possessed Villager. They could hardcode an interaction with Dreadsteed, but then it'd be inconsistent.
yeah. but it would be the same case as arcane missiles
you can even argue it should act like the old bugged lightbomb where it did damage to one enemy at time and the deathrattles only triggered after the effect ended
No, Arcane Missiles finishes it's effect, and then the deathrattles go off. Defile is a re-cast, which means the effect finishes every time.
The effect needs to finish in order for the system to know if it's killed a minion.
TheVictor126, Then it wouldn't do what it's text says.
acutally the dreadsteed umbra thing still works, its just that all the dreadsteeds will summon at the end of your turn... i think?
This is positive, if you fill your board with dreadsteeds, it no longers lock your board... but it truely just adds dust to your collection, which is useful
Why is this nerf even happening? Dreadsteed is already garbage.
Jacqueline Because of the interaction with the new warlock card Defile
It's not like Blizzard really cares for wild anyway.
Jacqueline I think its because of the new warlock card in LotFT that deals one damage to all minions and if a minion dies it casts itself again. With Dreadsteed it would be an infinit loop and the game would never end
So that it doesn't glitch defile, I would guess.
+Kerem Seker Hearthstone handles potential infinite loops by putting a hard cap on how many times it can repeat the same action. Defile would, at best, almost kill anything that can be played (save for priest health buff shenanigans).
Are we not going ot address the fact that that ungoro pack had two sharazins in it?
I wouldnt have been suprised if they nerfed Major Noggenfogger and said that the random emotes including old 'Sorry!' emote is having too good results in ladder ...
Rest in peace great member of the Meme Card Collection. We will never forget you.
I was listening to Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah and this video came up in the recommendations. I literally wanna cry now and I havent even finished the kripp video
The match was a huge rollercoaster of emotions
Kripp I love watching your videos and you made me want to play arena. I never thought I would ever get any high arena runs struggling to get above 4 wins. I just went 12 wins for the 3rd time in 2 weeks. Keep up the amazing work!!
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A YEAR!
A dreadlock gameplay from Kripp, that is. rip dreadsteed
It's such an awesome card design as well. I wish there was more stuff like this
Wait dreadsteed is going to get nerfed so hard it'll integer overflow to magma rager power levels?
i got to legend with dreadsteed warlock the december before the first standard rotation. i will miss it dearly
@Kripparrian There is an extremely simple solution to this "conundrum". Simply make it so that the Defile spell resolves before Dreadsteed's deathrattle effect triggers. This would cause Dreadsteed to only give Defile 1 extra cast.
Remember when Blizzard briefly changed Poison Seeds to resolve BEFORE Explosive Sheep's Deathrattle would trigger? It would be exactly like that.
CoffeeCaveman it's not the same because defile is literally casting a spell multiple times. Deathrattles generally trigger after spells, in which case of course defile casts, kills, deathrattle triggers, then defile casts again due to getting a kill, and so on. Poison seeds killing things and triggering a deathrattle afterwards was a strange interaction that was likely not intended since it doesn't follow the order of most other spells resolutions
I’ll miss you Dreadsteed. A card I crafted for fun after Kripp’s first featured video.
Never forghetti, rest in spaghetti.
I like how blizz nerf fun bullshit cards but not the lame bullshit cards
ayoub feki defile will come in the latest expansion. thats why.
фаггот блядь Coudl've been changed in a way that left the card playable (or just make an exemption, it's not like it's they haven't done it before, see Bouncing blade and C'thun)
фаггот блядь but defile can loop from grim patron as well if you have one at 1 hp one at 2 and one at 3 it goes forever of if not forever for enough times to wipe the board and leave u with a board full if patrons
This game is going to die because of these changes killing fun cards in the game.
I already stopped playing a few months ago. Theres too much bullshit going around over and over again. I remember finally gettin genough dust for a legendary a few days after they nerfed Yogg. Yogg was the most fun most interesting card in the game and they nerfed it because it was too much fun. I never had a yogg yet it was the one card I hoped an opponent would play because it as so fun to play against. It feels like they want ot stream line the already simplified card game to make it more uninteresting and bland. All of the best decks are always the most boring and cliche aggro archetype.
Treachery plus Fel Reaver. You have to make this deck Kripp. Toss in all 8 0 cost minions. Mill for 24 cards, on turn 10 this will deal 28 to 36 damage minimum depending on who went first. Just from fatigue.
I wonder if the interaction with Umbra will still work, just it'll only happen at end of turn?
"Dreadsteeds are soo loyal"
May the Dreadsteed find peace in the nerf heaven
25:02 why it still shows he has cards? Or is it just me?
Adding the sentence "doesnt work on the card dreadsteed" to defile and coding it like that would have been a really easy solution to the problem but instead they rekt dreadsteed lol
Who else is gonna know what it feels like to be fucked by the new hero cards while only having the free one the next expansion?
Wayne Scott they implied you get a random one
it is random set comes out 8 days.
The real thing to ask is when you get by randon the bad prince legendary while everyone else have good hero cards
Dreadsteed is obviously being nerfed because of the crazy potential for the death rattle combination with frozen throne. I imagine there's a card or two in the expansion that gets buffed or have bonuses when summoning a death rattle, or even triggering one. Bride even spoke about a key term returning would be death rattle.
So long dreadsteed, we had... occasionally giddy times.
The memester we need, but not the memester we deserve
If you're looking for more Dreadsteed meme games, Dane Hearthstone has some great ones.
5:50 Are we ignoring the fact that that warrior got two of the same legendary in the same pack?!?
Dreadsteed deck was my favorite deck of all time :(
Nooooooooooooooo
Rip Dreadsteed.
Thank you Kripp for making this video in Dreadsteed honor.
While I still played Heartstone it was one of my favorie cards. No that it was any good. It was so fun to use tho!
Buuuu~
I dont get it... what has changed in the text. Isnt it the exact same? Doesnt it have the same effect?
Forever in memory of the poor Dreadsteed.
never come and flame you because I like 99.95% of your videos. I'm happy to have helped contribute to your new awesome place :) However I wanted to see you beaten so badly at the end of the second clip. Got so cocky with taking 2 turns not casting anything but attacking w/ random dreadsteeds due to mayor noggenfogger. All in all maybe it gave this game a better feel watching you have to get serious at the end. I guess you can't be super serious mode 24/7 and it did make for a great clip :)
Why couldn't they just make Dreadsteed resummon after spell effects end, or even make an exception for Defile specifically? This nerf seems way over the top for one silly interaction. Rip one of my favorite cards. :(
On the bright side at least with a full board of Dreadsteeds we'll be able to sacrifice some to play more minions, though why you would want anything other than Dreadsteed I don't know.
The solution is just an internal stop on Defile that makes it stop going off if the only minion on the board is Dreadsteed. That way, Dreadsteed is still cool, and the Defile + Dreadsteed combo in Wild will kill all non-Dreadsteed minions.
rip dreadsteed + umbra/n'zoth + noggenfogger combo :(
Chump has been using a pretty good Dreadsteed deck that has stomped a couple tiered decks
Was considering returning for KoTFT but learning this I am going to stay far away
We'll all miss you dreadsteed! Thank you for the memes!
i dont see why the change was even needed? the way i understand the rules and interactions of hearthstone, dreadsteed's deathrattle wouldnt even trigger until *after* the defile effect ends.
Defile's effect does end. Then the deathrattles trigger. Then Defile does a check to see if anything has died. Then it re-casts.
Watching the effect of Curse of Rafaam, I wish the effect of the 'Cursed!' card was 'add a Cursed! card to your opponent's hand'. That way you could hot potato Rafaam for hilarious shenanigans.
Rest in Pieces, we'll miss you
How about making all the deathrattles trigger AFTER all defile triggers finish
The misplays hurt so bad
Dreadsteed: EVERYONE, GET IN HERE!
Dreadsteed was op. I'm glad I don't have to fight against a board full of them anymore.
I think dreadsteed isn't the only card that could break the game with defile, take grim patron as an example, a 1 health patron, a 2 health one and a 3 health one.. it would go on a loop forever if i'm not mistaken
Well in all reality there is a four card instant win combo with Dreadsteed. Dreadsteed + Knife Juggler + Deathspeaker + Defile. GG.
Oh no, didn't know about the nerf till today and thought of building another steed deck just yesterday :-(
So, the first game would be pretty much un-affected by the nerf, right?
The first steed would just spawn at the end of turn, creating the summon-all cycle, and from there, the only difference would be that you would get your steeds at end of turn instead immediately, which would be actually better since it would allow you to play a minion in steed's place.
The Steeds are still going to summon at the end of opponents turn if he kills them right? So they will be able to attack, right?
I believe the only time it would make a difference in the first game is from 7:05 - 7:45. Steed dying would cause less possible targets for the darkbomb. Pretty much unaffected though.
Would be a different story if his opponent had 2 minions that could attack while noggen was alive and the first one attacked a steed.
The real kicker is the spirit singer umbra interaction would no longer work
Boki in The Dark Woki wouldnt it just all happen at the end of the turn?
You would summon the dreadsteed, Umbra would trigger its deathrattle, which wouldnt resolve until the end of the turn, and when the second steed is summoned it's deatrattle would trigger, since its already the end of the turn and so on until the board is full.
Or are you saying the second steed that comes at the end of your turn wouldnt have its deathrattle trigger until the end of your oppenents turn? Then you would at least get 3 total steeds, unless Umbra was still alive at the start of your turn. In which it would cycle for another 2 steeds for each turn Umbra is alive.
Its prob being nerfed because in the knights of the frozen throne there is a card that does 1 damage to all minions but if it kills a minion the spell will be recast. Since dreadsteed would just die infinitely, the effect would clear the whole board and would keep going forever
When are you doing the cruel Dinomancer combo? It sucks but it's pretty fun.
9:16 Turns out that it is reallllllyyyy gooooood!
They should have added "Charge minions get +1/+0" to dreadsteed to balance it out.
Good night, sweet prince. We barely knew ye.
MagmaRagerino gets called out...
Rest in spaghetti my friend.
"Undefeated" one silence priest match up later
I don't get it. Sure, Defile interaction is a problem, but why not make it that the minions don't get removed from the board and activate their deathrattles until after Defile stops casting? I mean, If minions die while casting Defile, wouldn't Grim Patrons pose an infinite loop issue as well?
you guys have a going crane here
Not sure if it's that huge a nerf. What interactions does this actually prevent?
I suppose you can't sac pac/coil twice or trade and sac pac/coil or trade/sac pac/coil and ravenous pterodax. I think Baron should still work the same, just delayed.
Spirit Singer I'm not sure about though. When you summon a Dreadsteed with her on board, a new one will be summoned at the end of the turn, will the one summoned at the end of the turn summon another one immediately? And then fill the board?
All this said, I think they could find a workaround to keep old Dreadsteed. Like resummon the steed after defile resolves. But that's probably too much effort for a Wild card.
TacitIron Hav It is a big nerf, for example you can't hit with it, then taunt it up, can't multiply several of them with Kelthuzad and if your board is full at the end of the turn it wont come back. You can say these are niche situations, but the entire card is niche, if it loses any positive interactions it gets even more unplayable. Not to mention the change didn't need to be this way, they could've made an exemption with the card, like with Bouncing blade (hits only 60 times maximum, not billion against a card with billions of hp)
Exantius9 I heard they didn't do the hard limit on purpose, since it would be too strong of a board clear? Not sure if that's true or not.
Also if Spirit Singer combo still works then hopefully losing bigger KT ones won't hurt too much. Is Kripp even running KT in this video?
24:30 That kazakus was so bad... Why in a sane mind would you not take 10 mana potion for 8 direct damage...
So that first warrior opened up his ungoro pack, only got two cards, and both were Sherazin. Thats some crazy RNG.
This is the most ResidentSleeper video i have ever watched.... ResidentSleeper
Anyone else astonished at the level of the 1/2 stats suggestions?
Sad to see no malganus.
Will you be able to disenchat for fill dust ?
Bobrys King I'm pretty sure, thought it might not due to the card being wild, which would be fucking BS.
Wow Blizzard way to stay ahead of the meta by nerfing a card that literally does not get played outside of "meme decks"
It's cause they're too lazy to change card interactions, if they left it as is it would literally break the game with defile.
Seems like they could simply trigger the effect of defile immediately before deathrattles occur. But I guess they want to get damage on the deathrattle-summons that occur.
Mike B meanwhile, they could nerf good cards like nzoth's first mate, patches, firey war axe, bloodsail corsair (okay, I'll stop hating on every single pirate warrior card), Northshire Cl- you know what, Priest doesn't need nerfing, tar creeper, living mana, living mana, living mana (hate that card), almost every single taunt legendary, especially paladin's ( I say almost cuz Wrathion exists), primordial drake, you know what, nerf Stonehill Defender. anyways, Jade Idol, JadeClaws, Flame tongue Totem, Maelstrom Portal (actually, nerf every portal except silvermoon portal), I could type for the rest of my life, but this comment is getting really long
Mike B, The minions need to die in order for defile to check if it should be recast. Since deathrattles happen immediately after a minion dies, defile must happen after deathrattles occur. Changing this would require a massive overhaul of the phasing system that's been in place since the game was first released.
I am drunk and I can't even believe this vid is real lol, all praise Kripp
nooo why didnt you post the one where you tied
So ctun reno khazakus nzoth deck?
Dammit! Dreadsteed was always one of my favorite, fun cards. T_T
I think this is a buff to dreadsteed and it doesn't break cards like defile. Its only worse in a few fringe cases like as a wall with noggenfogger.
For all of you who don't understand the nerf, it's caus of the new card (spoilers!) "Defile": "Deal 1 damage to all minions. If any die, cast this again." if Dreadsteed wouldn't get nerfed you would break the game in an endless loop: spell->dmg -> death-> revive ->repeat. Loops like that are one of the main reasons cards get changed, cause that is much simpler than change aktivation order or reprogramm a bigger part of the game.
Isn't the effect taking place at the end of the turn better? ... You can play a new card to keep it from coming back if you don't want it
How will justicar react with the new hero powers from hero cards?
Edward Rueter justicar impowers only BASIC hero powers.. It says it in the text..
Stefan Huber thanks bud, I never looked that closely.
iw was my favourite card
Will someone tell me what the nerf even is
It summons itself at the end of the turn, instead of immediately.
Why can't they just make it so that the dreadsteed death rattle triggers after the entire effect is over?
Well, they just cant make a delay for dreadsteed. For example they will respawn after ending of defile interactions.
4:40 why not trade the taunt into the 1/3 and trade
So if I craft two of them will the dust still get refunded?
hunter joss I believe so
anyone else notice that both of the two cards from the un'goro pack were sherazin?
If i make all my dust dreadsteeds, i will get their cost X4?(after the nerf)
what, no you can just dust them for their crafting value
When does the cruel dinomancer variant come
It is not even a week since I crafted 2 dreadsteeds. Now it is gonna be unplayable, thx blizz!
When they nerf cards, they usually let you dust them for their full worth. So you won't lose out on any dust. Still, the card being nerfed this way is dumb. There were several better options than making it useless.
I am not bitching about dust. I am bitching about fun deck that will be just destroyed.
Would Dreadsteed be an infinite with that new Defile spell coming to Warlock? If the nerf wasn't coming.
Gabriel Halmich yup...
Jyggalag
lol
Grim Patron, Wild Pyromancer, Defile, GET IN HERE!
dread steed was the most fun thing to happen to warlock since jarraxus