thanks for watching. I agree with you. I think most of their albums are pretty good, even the not so good ones. The only one I really can't listen to is heaven and earth.
I love this album. Even “Circus of Heaven” which is that rarest of rarities from Yes - a song that tells a straightforward story. And I love the little child’s voice at the end. This album is a hidden gem in my book.
Circus of Heaven, for me, just "works" .... would love a "proper" release of the full Wembley 1978 BBC recording of the Tormato tour ... just wonderful ... and Circus on that is just great ... CMcG. Aberdeen, Scotland
I dug out my old vinyl. Brings back great memories. Anyway the record sleeve has all the lyrics and credits, and for Circus of Heaven the vocals are credited to Jon and Damion Anderson. If I were Jon I would love coming back to this song to hear my child’s 5 or 6 year old (just guessing on that) voice, but either way it is a great song and unique in the Yes catalogue.
yes, I totally agree. I really love the track. It's wired that they were not getting on because I think a lot of the trans sound very dynamic and upbeat. I wonder if they will tour this album again. I am nit sure if they are still working through their past albums on tour.
I loved every moment of this album right from the first listening. It is a brilliant collection of songs musically and lyrically. Who ever hated it must be tone deaf. I recall at the time reading newspaper critics slamming it. The critics then didn’t seem to know what a masterpiece this album was. So glad it’s being listened to via UA-cam. Yes thank you Yes.
Thanks for watching. It's always interesting to hear when the critiques get it wrong. It usually takes me multiple listens of an album over many weeks until I decide. I can only imagine judging music after a few listens.
My personal favorite line-up was the "Relayer era with Patrick Moraz" on keyboards ... Too bad it only lasted for one amazing and creative album and a year of solo projects from this line-up. Not many people enjoyed Patrick Moraz's "The Story of I" ... the fruit of these endeavours, but it is one hell of a great album to say the least. Having said this, I love every line-up of Yes from the get-go, all have a special magic to my ears.
I won't use the word "favorite", especially in my musical experiences and adventures. That said, my first two Yes concerts were from the Patrick Moraz era. They would start with "Sound Chaser", the "Gates of Delirium" drum solo featured Alan White's rotating drum set, and Patrick did a piano solo containing bits from the Refugee album I have always loved that Refugee album, and it's cool that the newer CD includes live tracks. I also spent many hours enjoying "The Story of I" as well as Patrick's work with Bruford. I also love his contributions to the four Moody Blues albums that he is on. I couldn't agree more with your comment about every line-up of Yes. I just ordered 2023 "Mirror to The Sky" and I know I'll love it. I love Jon Davison's voice and songwriting. I even like the Drama line-up and the Fly From Here album. I'm a huge Trevor Rabin fan. My wife and I sang "Onward" and "Time and a Word" to each other during our wedding ceremony in 1981. Tormato didn't get radio play? Who cares? It's a dynamic and wonderful collection of songs.
@@missedmusic101 Since you like Chris Squire's work, your time would probably be better spent listening to "Fish out of Water," where you get to hear more bass guitar as lead. If you like the softer side of Jon Anderson, there's the contemperaneous "Olias of Sunhillow," where he takes center stage without competition from Yes' amazing instrumenalists.
thanks for watching @rickshearer. I must admit I stoped listening to them after Big Generator and then got back into them around the time Fly from Here was released and then starting working my back through the albums to Big Generator.
Always loved Tormato. And it’s even dearer to me because when dad was alive, as a lad I’d mix plaster for him at weekends. He didn’t like the music I’d take on a cassette radio I had, he’d make me turn it off and just have the radio on. Then one day I took Tormato on tape and it was blasting away in this empty stripped out house. ‘Who’s this?’ He said. I told him and he said ‘Not bad, you can leave this on.’ That was the only time he said anything like that about the prog bands I was listening to.
@@jimilove7773 - recently a friend (and music director/piano player) at my Catholic Church played this song during Communion. I almost fell out of my pew. My wife told me to calm down. Lol. I looked back when he was done and he looked back, nodded and winked.
At my age at the time, I came into Yes during the 90215 period as my entry point into the band. That and the first Asia album. From there I backtracked to Yes Drama, which is a favorite of mine. Upon listening to Yes Tormato, I have to say that I was not impressed with the production quality, but I did enjoy many of the songs. I am not sure if many are aware of this, but there was an error in production, particularly the mastering of this album, which was discovered years later, when it was remastered with additional tracks. The engineer doing the remastering discovered that the Dolby B was either on or off, and was mislabeled or not check marked on the master tapes. This was corrected, and the mix and mastering as it was intended to be is on those CDs. And I’ve gotta tell ya what a difference that made! It sounds excellent now! A friend of mine who loathed that album listened to the new remastered copy that I had, and could not believe it was the same album. Anyways, that’s my take on one of the main reasons that it was not a favorite amongst Yes fans.
thanks for watching. When I started listening to yes they had split up and then got back together for 90125. It was the first Yes concert I went to. Unfortunaltey I found it very disappointing. I saw them perform the Yes album a while back at the Royal Albert Hall and that was much better. I think Steve Howe is irreplaceable
Tormoto would turn people off of Yes, real quick. A lot of people really, really hate anything overly cute, and between Circus of Heaven, Arriving UFO, and Don't Kill the Whale would have them playing a game of Russian Roulette in no time. One of the things that made me really love Yes is the somber tone they set at the sweetest point in Heart of the Sunrise, as Anderson sings "Love comes to you...." Tormoto is too happy, and when Anderson sings, "On the winds of celestial seasons...," it sounds like Anderson is just clutching at cliche'. Overall, the sound of the album is unbalanced, like the treble know broke at the maximum setting and the sentiment too sweet for the taste of a humming bird. Despite all this, these are/were some of the most gifted musicians on the planet at the height of their powers, so it is excellent work, but absolutely not a good introduction to this band.
I’m going to give it a shot because of this video. I bought it the day it was available and maybe listened to it 10 times. They are my favorite band. I owe it to them.✌️❤️🤘
Some of Chris Squire's gnarliest bass tones are on this album. On the record sleeve he's listed on some tracks as playing "Harmonized Rickenbacker bass"... I think he was playing through an Eventide Harmonizer unit. It also sounds like he's using a wah pedal sometimes. I actually went out and got myself a De Armond "Thunderbolt" bass wah pedal after I got this album back then.
This has been one of my favorite Yes albums since it came out, The song structure were much less chaotic than their more celebrated offerings, lending more gravitas to the solo sections of any given track. And any album with a song as beautiful as Onward has to be a classic.
I just listened to the whole album this morning. I was feeling a bit depressed, and even though I don't listen much prog rock nowadays, it appeared on my mind and it was the perfect choice. They are very happy tracks, but the surprise and awe element present in so many yes albums is also there. It made me excited about life again and ended up going for a nice walk in cloudy Lima where I live. I don't know if it has to do with the fact that I first listened to this album when I was 15 and discovered prog rock through it (and Fragile). It could be the connection to those happy times. But I really enjoy every single one of the tracks in it. I love how they make me feel. And I appreciate how inventive each of them are too. It doesn't make much sense to me to compare Tormato with other albums... it's just different. And stands out on its own.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. Music is very much tied to memories, and listening to tracks can take us back to the past. It's great when the connections are happy ones. Walking through Lima and listening to Yes seems so cool!
thanks for watching @timharrison1158. There are a few albums by groups I like that I wish they would go back and rerecord and fix some of the weaker elements
@@missedmusic101 My biggest gripe with Yes is how they treated the studio tracks from Keys To Ascension 1 & 2 as just bonus material on a live album, instead of finishing them and releasing them as a full album in its own right. If that had happened, Open Your Eyes would never have existed as a Yes album. We can thank stupid Yes management for that debacle.
Tormato is one of Yes's best albums. In my opinion Alan White is definitely at his best. As a drummer his playing on this album influenced my drumming to a new level. I think this album should of been as popular if not more than 90125.
Thanks for watching. It's hard for me to appreciate the drumming. So it's good to hear your comments. Do you know this drummer? ua-cam.com/video/kPY4MfzdAkQ/v-deo.html
thanks for watching @henryramsay3842, I must say I find it hard to appreciate drumming. At school I had a friend who was a drummer and he'd go crazy when listening to yes and rush
thanks for watching @1guitbox1. Don't kill the whale doesn't seem to be a universally loved song, but as a teenager I thought it was great and I love whales!
Thanks for watching. I'm going to have to listen to going for the one again. I like it, but it is one of the classic ones I listen to the least. I really need a peaceful place and no disturbances to appreciate Awaken.
Actually Tormato which is brilliant was Yes's last contractual obligation that they hated so Yes decided to do the entire album themselves and put all those royalties in their own pockets. Check out the credits on the album, the boys giving the business the finger. Release Release imo is the best track pure rock out prog. LSD & Close To The Edge ah memories.
I have enjoyed the album since I saw them in the round. It was the 3rd time I saw them after RELAYER. & GFTO. I was turned onto YES with Starship Trooper & TYA when I was 21 in 1972. I have followed YES since then & they have been & always will be my favorite band. I enjoy the JA,SH,CS, RW, & AW linsup the best, but I have enjoyed all the lineups including the current lineup JD, SH, BS, GD, & JS. I just love YES period!!!
I have been a fan of Yes for more than 45 years, having been born in a cold Siberia. Relayer is my fave, but I love Tormato from the day one I heard it. I don't know why some folks don't appreciate it. Totally agree with you. Underrated is the name of the game.
@@missedmusic101 it's a long story. I used to have a Russian-Jewish buddy, who was a couple of years older than me. We ended up in the rock band where I played drums. It was around 1973. We liked what we were playing!!!! It was the best time I ever had!!! One day Misha said" I can astound you!" I said with what. He said Brain salad surgery by Emerson Lake and Palmer. And he played Tocatta, the second track on the album and I went lost completely after hearing it Out of my mind!!! As they say in an American jazz syntax "cool gone cat" That's when I was Initiated to the prog family:):):) A couple of years later a had a chance to buy an original LP by Yes having heard Close to the edge and the Oceans by that time. It was Relayer I paid 60 rubles which was a pretty good dough back then And I fell in love with Yes right there and then. Genesis and Yes are my faves!!
This is my first time watching/listening to your channel. Most other programs describe the music and lyrics in great detail but leave me waiting to hear a few 🎶. I remember when I bought this LP, it was a return to their classic lineup and departure from album artwork; Yessongs was my first album. This album had a whole new sense of direction... Madrigal would fit on an earlier studio album...UFO and don't kill the whale were something completely unexpected. I'm pleased you chose Tormato 🍅 and glad I checked it out ✌️
thanks for watching jesusamaya8943. I will have to look at another album when I get the time. Since posting the video I have been listening to a lot of Yes!
thanks for watching @kcornish . he was n amazing bass player, no-one else really sounds like him. I love the sound of the bass especially when it becomes a lead instrument
The golden years for sure Kevin! Chris was/is amazing. Fish Out of Water is a classic. Chris's voice and bass brought to the fore. Some of those bass lines on Tales From Topographic Oceans are just (I'm at a loss for words). p.s. the next time u hear a thunderstorm, don't worry. That's just Alan and Chris getting ready to jam!
The last two minutes of “On the Silent Wings of Freedom” have always been some of my favorite moments from the entire Yes catalog. As a teen in the early 80s I had a hard time believing it was the same band that played “Owner of a Lonely Heart”!
thanks for watching @DJasonBolt. Yes, 90125 was a radical change, but after the initial shock It really grew on me. It sounds a bit dated now but at the time Trver Horn's production sounded quite radical.
@@missedmusic101 agreed, and the lyrics prior to this album were in that category, they were so non-sensical that you just sang along without thinking much about them.
I remember when my brother brought this album home and played it over and over again. The beauty of vinyl is the you will listen to the whole album start to finish. There is no choosing which track to play, you put the needle down and you didn't pick it up until the side ended. Future Times/Rejoice was a song i was heavily influenced by for the fact that my brother played it at maximum volume, and i loved it. Such wonderful memories. Also, Release, Release is a great guitar driven song with an epic Allan White drum solo. Too bad yes didn't play these songs live very often after the Tormato tour,
thanks for watching @nathelm . Unfortunaltey my teenage self would lift up the tonearm and try and plonk it down on the next track I wanted to listen to. Hence all my final were soon very scratched. There are still song that when I listen to them today I expect them to jump at a certain point or continually pay the same groove.
Tormato is one of all-time favorite Yes albums. I remember seeing the Yesshows tour INThe Round 1978 at MarketSquare Arena in Indianapolis. What a show. I personally think that every track on this album is strong. There's not a bad one on the whole album. My favorites are Future Times/Rejoice, Arriving UFO, and SWOF. If you get a chance to see the TORMATO promo video of SWOF, you will not be disappointed. Thanks for posting this video.
P.S. I did see this tour (in the round) with Jon Andersons son - there was a lot of musical competition at the time, including punk rock, which pulled people away from the dinosaur bands of the early 70s
I got into Yes listening to "Relayer". I loved that dense sound and admired, as a guitarist, the complexities. I saw them for the first time on the 1977 "Going For The One" tour, and, for many years, cherished and wore out the bootleg cassette I had of this show. By the time I heard 3 songs off the new album on the Friday Rock Show I was a huge Yes fan, having bought and caught up on the albums preceding Relayer. I loved Tormato, and the following , well, tour is a bit of a stretch as they only played a few dates at the old Wembley Arena, was a must. I secured a ticket for Friday the 28th of October 1978, and what proved to be that line up's final series of dates, went to see what I still regard as Yes's finest moments. The live versions of the album tracks they played were far superior to the rather flat studio versions. But the whole of that show was mind blowing, including the very best version of Starship Trooper I have ever heard, and have seen Yes many times since then, in almost all of the band incarnations. Like you I fail to see why Yes fans have such a downer on this album. Sure there are no 15+ minute prog epics, but some of the songs are simply sublime. Circus of Heaven is surely twee, but On The Silent Wings Of Freedom is a cracking track, as are the opening 2, Future Times/Rejoice. The production is a bit, well, flat, lacking the sparkle of Going For The One and Relayer, but it is still a fantastic album, way superior to some of the later albums which have, IMHO, have failed to capture the magic again.
Thanks for watching @zoffo62. I saw them too at Wembley Arena for the 90125 tour. Looking back on it they must have had a huge following to be playing arenas. The only other time I saw them was at the royal Albert hall. I'd love to see them again but can't bring myself to buy tickets to concerts over a year in advance of the actual gig.
Thanks a lot for the video, which has changed my perspective on Tormato qiute a bit. I remember when it came out I was dissapointed about the cover and the absence of an epic track like on the previous albums. I think one has to understand that artists follow their own path and we can decide whether we like their product or not. In the course of time I started to accept any Yessong in its own right, because they always stir up emotions in me. On the other hand, Yes without Jon' s gifted and unique voice is a different story or band.
I think the lead single from Tormato ought to have been On the Silent Wings of Freedom in its entirety. I see it as being like Roundabout for the New Wave generation. That could’ve changed everything. DJs would’ve sometimes used the first two and a half minutes of the song for making announcements, just like they did in 1977 with the first eighty or so seconds of David Bowie’s Sound and Vision. That helped push that particular song to Number 3 in the UK charts. Silent Wings is a classic that never got proper attention. Also, calling the album Tor, as originally intended, would’ve been best.
thanks for the comment, its a really interesting point. When I got into Yes they had split up and I never thought they would realise another album. Then came 90125 and that was really different!
"On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is 7:45 long. Radio stations might have accepted such a long single from Paul McCartney/Wings or Chicago, but not from a group so out of the pop mainstream as Yes. The band was successful without singles, and they resented "Roundabout" being cut drastically to make a single, so I'm not surprised by their decision.
As an avid fan of Yes when this album came out I bought it and it just didn’t have the bombast and multi facet textures their prior works had. My vinyl sat rarely played for almost ten years and then putting it on it made sense and became a favorite. When released it just didn’t fit what they had been doing prior. Taken as a starting point or as a fresh return it really is awesome…
thanks for watching @user-fu4jf1si4g. its really interesting that your feelings towards an album can change over the years. I think there must be a lot of good albums that flopped because they just didn't fit into the way fans thought the group should progress. I think that's true for Queen's Hot Space, it got very bad reviews but there are some great songs on it. I didn't really get into queen until The Works so for me Hot Space was just another album rather than a progression in the band's career.
78 was the first year I got to see Yes at Wembley and Tormato was the featured album of the tour. Loved it ever since and Silent Wings is certainly one of my favourite all time Yes tracks
thanks for watching @richardpicking4459. From the comments on here that tour sounded really good. I saw the 90125 tour. I had been into yes for a few years but they no longer existed and I thought they never would again. So the anticipation of seeing them live was high, but I thought Trevor Rabbin butchered all of Steve Howe's guitar parts. I left the concert so disappointed.
Great album. Just love it. I don't need a thousand CTTE's. Would bore me anyway. Yes are still alive 2023. Any other group of that caliber from the 70's ??? Does say a lot. Doesn't it ???
thanks for watching @bellyofanarchitect . I saw them a few years ago, it must have been the last tour before Chris Squire died and they were still excellent.
@@missedmusic101 Saw them last on the OYE Tour in Vienna. Was f... great. Problem with Austria is, Prog groups very seldom come here. It's the home of Mozart and Schlager. Last seen Marillion and Steven Hackett. And that's a f... surprise!
Thank you for re introducing me to this great album. I bought the vinyl when it was first released. I wasn't too keen on it way back then. I put that down to being introduced to Yes through CTTE , TFTO and Relayer . All three having long form songs . I guess that's just the way I viewed Yes back then. An idea to consider.
thanks for watching @normanmacfarlane6724. I think if a fan was following yes from the beginning then Tomato is a shock. I only started listening to them in the early 80s so for me it was just another Yes album. I guess if you waited a year for a new release from the band then Tomato might have been a disappointment. Especially is one was hoping they would revert back to long songs.
I love it and loved it on release too. Never understood the so-called or so-claimed hate for it as Silent Wings of Freedom and Release, Release alone make this an incredible purchase.
Hi. Thanks. Im a big yes fan. Almost 65. To me tormato revealed an internal clash. Ego? Classic yes years had gone. Thats why tormato is odd...with just 2 or 3 interesting parts. They did not like production. Then paris sessions confirmed this crises. It was over . drama therefore was s glass of fresh water
This was my first venture, at 14, into actually going deep listening to music, and my first Yes album. Living in the then backwaters as regards critical reactions, or any information about rock and pop music at all, I didn’t know for many years that so many fans think of it as a weak album. To me, it set a standard.
thanks for watching @billmayo1094. I think some of the tracks are brilliant, but there are some weaker elements, but then again, I think that's true of Fragile.
I'm a Yes-Fan from my DNA on. I do love at most GOING FOR THE ONE, CLOSE TO THE EDGE, THE FIRST ALBUM, TORMATO, ABW&H, 90125, DRAMA, and even UNION. I don't need much of their work after UNION, but I loved TORMATO right from the start in 1978. Maybe because I was born behind the iron curtain I din't knew then every Yes-record prior to it, so I wasn't dissapointed in my expactations. True; the name is a big mistake, the tomato-story ist a failure, not to put "On the silent wings of freedom" as the first track on side A was a failure, but what a great battle between Wakeman and Howe throughout the album. "Madrigal" is a masterpiece! Trevor Horn stated that "Don't kill the Whale" would be rubbish, but, honestly: the whole track sounds more like Trevor Horn than Trevor himself. It's a great song! Of course there are weeker moments on this; it isn't CLOSE TO THE EDGE or GOING FOR THE ONE! I think, there are some wannabe-Gurrus among the proggies to tell us over decades what is good and what is not, some of them deaf in their hearts, and the later generations speaks likewise about that stuff. It's all wrong! Use your own ears, don't follow these bashers!
Favorite songs are "Future Times/Rejoice" and "On The Silent Wings Of Freedom". The rest of the album is a tough sell. As others have said, "Tormato" came after all their best work.
:)...It's great that you see the brilliance of the album...It's a masterpiece, and up there with their other masterpieces...Here in Philly, We received Tormato with open arms...Jon Anderson called in to one of our radio stations, speaking to one of the popular DJ's It was about 6 months before release...He played the recording of Circus of Heaven OVER THE PHONE from Europe...Crackling telephone lines and all...My buddy recorded it on 8 track......When they toured the album in 78 they sold out 4 nights at the Spectrum...Real and true Yes heads loved this album as much as we love Fragile, or Close TTE... I've listened to it thousands of times and love it even more now...:) Good health to you and yours- Cheers!
The Rhino remix is even better: lots of unreleased stuff. Wakeman even said of "Tormato" that it's a really good album, but they didn't have enough time to flesh them out.
My Dad stumbled upon this album obe day and bought it in the late nineties. I loved it ever since i heard it and was amazed at how much some people wrote it off once i watched a lot of reviews. A while back Steve was asked if he ever listened to Van Halen and said that Eddie had him playing faster on this album for sure. The alternate picking says it all.
thanks for watching @dannyholloway2007. The point about Van Halen is interesting. I would never imagine Steve Howe being influenced by another guitarist. I have never really understood his influences he has always sounded (to me at least) unique.
A good album. The songs are shorter, but well constructed. Just take 'Rejoice' it's a mini epic with several movements and a lovely instrumental mid -section. A mini classic!
It was a case of the band doing something different. 'Rejoice' is a mini epic with serval movements in just over 3 minutes, As for 'On the Silent Wings of Freedom' enough said!
OK - you've convinced me to revisit this one. I shrugged it off at the time, but I think I'm ready to hear it out of the context of their previous trajectory.
YES are supposed to do long rambling spacey songs....so TORMATO got a kick in the teeth....I love TORMATO.... FUTURE TIMES/REJOICE....DON'T KILL THE WHALE....RELEASE,RELEASE....ARRIVING U.F.O....ONWARD....ON THE SILENT WINGS OF FREEDOM were all top songs and should have been played more - live.... 'SILENT WINGS' probably in my top 5 yes songs....
Love it. It was a formative time for me and was maybe the second Yes album i bought as it was released. Only a few songs dont work for me, but the others work great.
I don't know why this record is not held in higher esteem, I think it's the last great prog album of the 1970's. Look at what all the major acts of that genre were doing at this time, is it some great coincidence that they all abandoned long and complicated songs ? I don't think so, I think they were forced into it by their labels. Yes was at their peak after Relayer, but were coerced into the solo album thing, which was a big mistake I think. I do not care for Going For The One, but Tormato is great. I love Chris' bass tone.
As a fan of the band from the beginning it was obvious that Tormato was not up to the groups standards -- especially since Going For The One was a "comeback" album of sorts. Even many of the band members admit to this. Add to the fact that the music scene was changing at the time, it came off a little out of date. This too was even evident to the band who altered their sound to a more commercial radio friendly style not too long after its release.
thanks for watching. Your points are really interesting. I must say I really loved 90125 too; although I found the cancer very disappointing. For all its faults I'd rather listen to Tormato than tales of the topographic oceans.
@@missedmusic101 There's some good stuff on Tormato, no doubt. The big problem with Topographic is that it's so rambling. Add some indulgent experimental weirdness that just doesn't work and it's easy to understand the hate for it. I did an edit and made it into a single album, in which case it works a lot better. ua-cam.com/video/lQTMB3OcpMw/v-deo.html
Ah....Tormato......one of the red-headed step children of YES albums. It's much maligned by YES purists, but I have a confession to make: I love Tormato (Drama too). Great album. Future Times is a great album opener. I love its energy and interplay between the instruments. Really, the album could have an improved reputation if just a few things could have been changed: 1. Do something else besides the audience noises in Release Release. It's a great song, and was thrown off by that brief interlude. 2. Have Wakeman re-imagine some of the keyboard lines in Arriving UFO. It's a good song with a funny concept, and he just needed to have spent a little more time coming up with something other than the explosion sounds he makes on that song, which sound like he just came up with it a few minutes before recording it. Just change that one bit and it would have been much better. 3. Put Circus of Heaven on a Jon Anderson solo album instead of on YES Tormato. Yes, I like it quite a bit, but it's too Jon and not enough YES. 4. Muscle up Madrigal with a full band involvement. It's just too tame without the full band grandiosity you'd expect from YES when doing something calm, like the great Awaken. Overall if just a little bit more time was invested in this album by the band, it would have been received much better by those who didn't care for it. It just needed a little more thought-out parts, and direction for what was on it, but really.....it's only little things that account for only a few minutes. The album overall is great, and I love it. I love anything by YES with only the execption of parts of Union, and perhaps most of the songs on Heaven & Earth.
thanks for watching @genericusername1365. "the ref-headed step child" - that made me laugh. Your points are very perceptive. Maybe people don't like the album because they can hear how good it might have been
First time I saw Yes was in '73, at the ripe old age of 16. I still love these guys. Maybe me and Tormato got started off on the wrong foot. When I saw that cover, I thought, "what in the world"?!! It's still my least fav. cover. I've listened to this 4 or 5 times. I just don't get it. I'll keep trying. peace & love to all...
thanks for @starshiptrooper7670. I think there's a very different perspective to a band's much when you've grown with them release after release. I feel that way about Radiohead
@@missedmusic101 Your exactly right. Thx for your reply man. After Tormato, when Rick and Jon left, I thought it was the end of the world. But I really like Drama. Then Jon (!) comes back, and Steve (no!) leaves. I enjoyed the Trevor Rabin years (except for Big Generator). I'm going to stop there. I'm starting to sound like a history teacher. lol RIP Chris, Alan and Peter Banks...
There is a distinct lack of pandering to known styles which is key to marketing because most persons want to know what social faction music is for before they buy it. For selling a product to the general public it helps to have the same styles as a desired social faction. For this album the sound combinations, the "orchestration" so to speak are not "correct", they seem original and so resemble no other orchestrations of the time, not even those of other progressive bands, so the crowd turns from you the moment you turn from the crowd. No loss, Yes didn't get the social or financial perks, but they made a great album. Often times intense emotions are less salable than even keel casual emotions in music, Yes could be very romantic when much of the public is not very romantic. I think over all I liked RELAYER the best, it had the most intimate moments where there are many single instrument solos mixed with wild orchestrations and moving melodies plus interesting lyrics. Tellingly its most peoples least favorite of their primary albums.
@@missedmusic101 (only after I wrote all that did I see the part about how they had such contempt for their contractual agreements that they dilibratley marginalized this album!)
Thank you for helping me remember that there are some good songs on this album. But there are also some truly painful songs like "Arriving UFO" & "Don't Kill the Whale." But many of the fans have issues with some of the choices Wakeman and Howe made with the sounds of their instruments, especially Wakeman. But the ones you picked are damn good Yes songs.
I was a new Yes fan when I bought an old warped copy of Tormato. It has its own unique tone and space in which it was recorded in that is so unique. I love Drama but what if the band clicked after this album and went ahead with the recordings that were the Paris Sessions?
thanks for watching @sogggyyy. I think after Tormato the lines up keep changing too rapidly and they never got into the groove of developing or refining a new sound.
thanks for watching @davidcunningham2074 I love relayer but its a hard listen and I need to set aside time to listen to it. Tormarto is much easier to dip in and out of.
As I listen it now, I feel that may be something that bring me to not totally appreciated this album at the time of its release and despite I was a Yes fan is the keyboard : the major part of sounds used by Rick Wakeman are "string section" like. This not give to the tracks the "modernity" and renewal that others instruments seems to intend to bring. (sorry for my poor english, I'm french).
Thanks for watching. Your point about the keyboard is very interesting. You're right. The album does seem to have one foot in the past and the other in the future.
Growing up with YES (seventies) this was the last album, to me, of a legend... as "Lamb, " Trick," "Wuthering," to Genesis. Back to YES... this is an underrated album, kiddo's. And, in my opinion... "Silent Wings" kinda cheesy, but it's all tasty... great musicianship. Dig. Peace on earth.
I think the problem with Tormato at the time was that it was a far departure from the quality of work people were used to from Yes. By today’s standards, sure…it’s nice. But putting it up to The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Relayer and even the come back of Going For The One, this was the worst of all of those (I dare say that at least for first 2 albums had more heart because they were hungry). Just my opinion. Peace.
Always liked it too. More accessible tham some of their earlier ones for the average music fan. Not in the league of Fragile or Closer to the Edge of course, but still good.
thanks for watching @jimnaylor6009. I love this one too. I think if all of their output sensated of 20 min tracks they would not have survived for so long.
Since I posted the video I have started to listen re-listen to the band a lot more and have been wondering what each individual member brought to the sound.
I always felt that this was one of Yes's better albums. I can't understand why it is so unliked.
thanks for watching. I agree with you. I think most of their albums are pretty good, even the not so good ones. The only one I really can't listen to is heaven and earth.
To much heaven on their mind...
Because it followed all of their bestwork
@@missedmusic101 I agree 👍
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I love this album. Even “Circus of Heaven” which is that rarest of rarities from Yes - a song that tells a straightforward story. And I love the little child’s voice at the end. This album is a hidden gem in my book.
I think it's Jon Anderson's son with the voice at the end
Circus of Heaven, for me, just "works" .... would love a "proper" release of the full Wembley 1978 BBC recording of the Tormato tour ... just wonderful ... and Circus on that is just great ... CMcG. Aberdeen, Scotland
Jon's son.
I dug out my old vinyl. Brings back great memories. Anyway the record sleeve has all the lyrics and credits, and for Circus of Heaven the vocals are credited to Jon and Damion Anderson. If I were Jon I would love coming back to this song to hear my child’s 5 or 6 year old (just guessing on that) voice, but either way it is a great song and unique in the Yes catalogue.
As far I can remember, Tormato was my introduction to Yes and I love it.
it's not a bad place to start. Mine was a mixed tape of the yes album and close to the edge. it really changed my musical tastes.
It was my introduction back in 1978, too. It occupies a soft spot in my memory because of that fact.
Same here!
Same
Release, Release has so much energy it pumps me up
yes, I totally agree. I really love the track. It's wired that they were not getting on because I think a lot of the trans sound very dynamic and upbeat. I wonder if they will tour this album again. I am nit sure if they are still working through their past albums on tour.
I loved every moment of this album right from the first listening. It is a brilliant collection of songs musically and lyrically. Who ever hated it must be tone deaf. I recall at the time reading newspaper critics slamming it.
The critics then didn’t seem to know what a masterpiece this album was. So glad it’s being listened to via UA-cam. Yes thank you Yes.
Thanks for watching. It's always interesting to hear when the critiques get it wrong. It usually takes me multiple listens of an album over many weeks until I decide. I can only imagine judging music after a few listens.
I’ve always loved this album. Bought it the day it came out.
thanks for watching@billgonzalezjr.4777. I find this one of their most uplifting albums.
Before the Cut out bin bargaining!!
My personal favorite line-up was the "Relayer era with Patrick Moraz" on keyboards ... Too bad it only lasted for one amazing and creative album and a year of solo projects from this line-up. Not many people enjoyed Patrick Moraz's "The Story of I" ... the fruit of these endeavours, but it is one hell of a great album to say the least. Having said this, I love every line-up of Yes from the get-go, all have a special magic to my ears.
thanks for watching. I will give story of I a listen when I can find the time.
I won't use the word "favorite", especially in my musical experiences and adventures. That said, my first two Yes concerts were from the Patrick Moraz era. They would start with "Sound Chaser", the "Gates of Delirium" drum solo featured Alan White's rotating drum set, and Patrick did a piano solo containing bits from the Refugee album I have always loved that Refugee album, and it's cool that the newer CD includes live tracks. I also spent many hours enjoying "The Story of I" as well as Patrick's work with Bruford. I also love his contributions to the four Moody Blues albums that he is on.
I couldn't agree more with your comment about every line-up of Yes. I just ordered 2023 "Mirror to The Sky" and I know I'll love it. I love Jon Davison's voice and songwriting. I even like the Drama line-up and the Fly From Here album. I'm a huge Trevor Rabin fan. My wife and I sang "Onward" and "Time and a Word" to each other during our wedding ceremony in 1981. Tormato didn't get radio play? Who cares? It's a dynamic and wonderful collection of songs.
@@missedmusic101 Since you like Chris Squire's work, your time would probably be better spent listening to "Fish out of Water," where you get to hear more bass guitar as lead. If you like the softer side of Jon Anderson, there's the contemperaneous "Olias of Sunhillow," where he takes center stage without competition from Yes' amazing instrumenalists.
@@rickdoogie749 That refugee album is really great, check out another band featuring P.Moraz ... "Mainhorse" ...
RELAYER and TOPOGRAPHIC are my favourite yes albums....
pity they shit on Patrick and he didn't get to do another one....
After hearing Tormato in 1979 Yes became my favorite band, which remains today!
thanks for watching @rickshearer. I must admit I stoped listening to them after Big Generator and then got back into them around the time Fly from Here was released and then starting working my back through the albums to Big Generator.
@@missedmusic101 🎶👍
don't apologize for what you like! I want suggestions for obscure music!!! AND, I am a YES fan!
what's your favourite album that most people may not know about.
Always loved Tormato. And it’s even dearer to me because when dad was alive, as a lad I’d mix plaster for him at weekends. He didn’t like the music I’d take on a cassette radio I had, he’d make me turn it off and just have the radio on. Then one day I took Tormato on tape and it was blasting away in this empty stripped out house. ‘Who’s this?’ He said. I told him and he said ‘Not bad, you can leave this on.’ That was the only time he said anything like that about the prog bands I was listening to.
That’s a lovely story. I used to force my parents to listen to this on car journeys. They hated it :)
Onward is an absolute masterpiece. Perfection.
Chris wote that.
For some reason I thought it was Jon Anderson!
@@jimilove7773 - recently a friend (and music director/piano player) at my Catholic Church played this song during Communion. I almost fell out of my pew. My wife told me to calm down. Lol. I looked back when he was done and he looked back, nodded and winked.
@@tehayes99 That's a cool story. I'd have the same reaction you had to hearing Onward played on an organ at church.
At my age at the time, I came into Yes during the 90215 period as my entry point into the band. That and the first Asia album.
From there I backtracked to Yes Drama, which is a favorite of mine.
Upon listening to Yes Tormato, I have to say that I was not impressed with the production quality, but I did enjoy many of the songs.
I am not sure if many are aware of this, but there was an error in production, particularly the mastering of this album, which was discovered years later, when it was remastered with additional tracks.
The engineer doing the remastering discovered that the Dolby B was either on or off, and was mislabeled or not check marked on the master tapes.
This was corrected, and the mix and mastering as it was intended to be is on those CDs.
And I’ve gotta tell ya what a difference that made!
It sounds excellent now!
A friend of mine who loathed that album listened to the new remastered copy that I had, and could not believe it was the same album.
Anyways, that’s my take on one of the main reasons that it was not a favorite amongst Yes fans.
thanks for watching. When I started listening to yes they had split up and then got back together for 90125. It was the first Yes concert I went to. Unfortunaltey I found it very disappointing. I saw them perform the Yes album a while back at the Royal Albert Hall and that was much better. I think Steve Howe is irreplaceable
The SACD version sounds very good.
Tormoto would turn people off of Yes, real quick. A lot of people really, really hate anything overly cute, and between Circus of Heaven, Arriving UFO, and Don't Kill the Whale would have them playing a game of Russian Roulette in no time. One of the things that made me really love Yes is the somber tone they set at the sweetest point in Heart of the Sunrise, as Anderson sings "Love comes to you...." Tormoto is too happy, and when Anderson sings, "On the winds of celestial seasons...," it sounds like Anderson is just clutching at cliche'. Overall, the sound of the album is unbalanced, like the treble know broke at the maximum setting and the sentiment too sweet for the taste of a humming bird. Despite all this, these are/were some of the most gifted musicians on the planet at the height of their powers, so it is excellent work, but absolutely not a good introduction to this band.
thanks for watching @ThatsMrPencilneck2U. Your comments are very thought provoking.
I’m going to give it a shot because of this video. I bought it the day it was available and maybe listened to it 10 times. They are my favorite band. I owe it to them.✌️❤️🤘
Thanks for watching
Thank you! Lots of great moments on this album. It's just different from their previous work
yes, totalt agree. I really like the album. Thanks for watching
Some of Chris Squire's gnarliest bass tones are on this album. On the record sleeve he's listed on some tracks as playing "Harmonized Rickenbacker bass"... I think he was playing through an Eventide Harmonizer unit. It also sounds like he's using a wah pedal sometimes. I actually went out and got myself a De Armond "Thunderbolt" bass wah pedal after I got this album back then.
thanks for watching @c.a.t.732. As a teenager I dreamed of owning a Rickenbacker - sadly it never happened (too expensive!)
This has been one of my favorite Yes albums since it came out, The song structure were much less chaotic than their more celebrated offerings, lending more gravitas to the solo sections of any given track. And any album with a song as beautiful as Onward has to be a classic.
thanks for watching @richardwillis6936. I really like onwards and those other great Anderson tracks like soon, wondrous stories and time and a word
I just listened to the whole album this morning. I was feeling a bit depressed, and even though I don't listen much prog rock nowadays, it appeared on my mind and it was the perfect choice. They are very happy tracks, but the surprise and awe element present in so many yes albums is also there. It made me excited about life again and ended up going for a nice walk in cloudy Lima where I live.
I don't know if it has to do with the fact that I first listened to this album when I was 15 and discovered prog rock through it (and Fragile). It could be the connection to those happy times. But I really enjoy every single one of the tracks in it. I love how they make me feel. And I appreciate how inventive each of them are too. It doesn't make much sense to me to compare Tormato with other albums... it's just different. And stands out on its own.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. Music is very much tied to memories, and listening to tracks can take us back to the past. It's great when the connections are happy ones. Walking through Lima and listening to Yes seems so cool!
Alan White said Tormato was a great album that was never finished.
thanks for watching @timharrison1158. There are a few albums by groups I like that I wish they would go back and rerecord and fix some of the weaker elements
@@missedmusic101 My biggest gripe with Yes is how they treated the studio tracks from Keys To Ascension 1 & 2 as just bonus material on a live album, instead of finishing them and releasing them as a full album in its own right. If that had happened, Open Your Eyes would never have existed as a Yes album. We can thank stupid Yes management for that debacle.
Tormato is one of Yes's best albums. In my opinion Alan White is definitely at his best. As a drummer his playing on this album influenced my drumming to a new level. I think this album should of been as popular if not more than 90125.
Thanks for watching. It's hard for me to appreciate the drumming. So it's good to hear your comments. Do you know this drummer? ua-cam.com/video/kPY4MfzdAkQ/v-deo.html
Some of Alan’s best drum work is on Silent Wings of Freedom. Listen closely, it’s brilliant playing!
thanks for watching @henryramsay3842, I must say I find it hard to appreciate drumming. At school I had a friend who was a drummer and he'd go crazy when listening to yes and rush
Crazy time signatures... how about King Crimson?
The bass lines in Silent wings are fantastic
Solidly my #5 Yes album.
I'm not sure why some people are down on it. It's an album that lifts my spirits
i always liked Tormato ..Don’t Kill the Whale being my fav track from the album ✌️😎
thanks for watching @1guitbox1. Don't kill the whale doesn't seem to be a universally loved song, but as a teenager I thought it was great and I love whales!
I love Tormato. Going For The One is my favorite Yes album... but Tormato is also wonderful.
Thanks for watching. I'm going to have to listen to going for the one again. I like it, but it is one of the classic ones I listen to the least. I really need a peaceful place and no disturbances to appreciate Awaken.
Actually Tormato which is brilliant was Yes's last contractual obligation that they hated so Yes decided to do the entire album themselves and put all those royalties in their own pockets. Check out the credits on the album, the boys giving the business the finger. Release Release imo is the best track pure rock out prog. LSD & Close To The Edge ah memories.
thanks for watching.
There are absolutely no bad Yes albums. They're either fabulous, great or awesome in their own ways, each a musical world of their own.
thanks for watching @nickedname7048. I agree, even when they are at their worse they are miles above most other bands.
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I have enjoyed the album since I saw them in the round. It was the 3rd time I saw them after RELAYER. & GFTO. I was turned onto YES with Starship Trooper & TYA when I was 21 in 1972. I have followed YES since then & they have been & always will be my favorite band. I enjoy the JA,SH,CS, RW, & AW linsup the best, but I have enjoyed all the lineups including the current lineup JD, SH, BS, GD, & JS. I just love YES period!!!
Thanks for watching. They are an outstanding band(s)
I have been a fan of Yes for more than 45 years, having been born in a cold Siberia. Relayer is my fave, but I love Tormato from the day one I heard it. I don't know why some folks don't appreciate it. Totally agree with you. Underrated is the name of the game.
wow thanks for your commet @anatoliyzhalnin8393 . How did you first hear about Yes?
@@missedmusic101 it's a long story. I used to have a Russian-Jewish buddy, who was a couple of years older than me. We ended up in the rock band where I played drums. It was around 1973. We liked what we were playing!!!! It was the best time I ever had!!! One day Misha said" I can astound you!" I said with what. He said Brain salad surgery by Emerson Lake and Palmer. And he played Tocatta, the second track on the album and I went lost completely after hearing it Out of my mind!!! As they say in an American jazz syntax "cool gone cat" That's when I was Initiated to the prog family:):):) A couple of years later a had a chance to buy an original LP by Yes having heard Close to the edge and the Oceans by that time. It was Relayer I paid 60 rubles which was a pretty good dough back then And I fell in love with Yes right there and then. Genesis and Yes are my faves!!
You had to be there. I was. These were great times.
thanks for watching @barrysoutthere.
This is my first time watching/listening to your channel. Most other programs describe the music and lyrics in great detail but leave me waiting to hear a few 🎶.
I remember when I bought this LP, it was a return to their classic lineup and departure from album artwork; Yessongs was my first album. This album had a whole new sense of direction... Madrigal would fit on an earlier studio album...UFO and don't kill the whale were something completely unexpected. I'm pleased you chose Tormato 🍅 and glad I checked it out ✌️
thanks for watching jesusamaya8943. I will have to look at another album when I get the time. Since posting the video I have been listening to a lot of Yes!
For me, it is perfect !
Thanks for listening @yvesg.377 . I think the album's great too.
I really like this album. I’ll listen to it on acid with my headphones with my buddies back in the day.
thanks for watching. @kellyheath6952 . Do you think acid and yes were a thing?
@@missedmusic101 Oh yes
The first time I heard the entire album was while I was tripping on some blotter😂
The bass lines on Rejoice 👌. “10 true summer’s long” - ‘68 to ‘78, the best Yes.
thanks for watching @kcornish . he was n amazing bass player, no-one else really sounds like him. I love the sound of the bass especially when it becomes a lead instrument
The golden years for sure Kevin! Chris was/is amazing. Fish Out of Water is a classic. Chris's voice and bass brought to the fore. Some of those bass lines on Tales From Topographic Oceans are just (I'm at a loss for words).
p.s. the next time u hear a thunderstorm, don't worry. That's just Alan and Chris getting ready to jam!
Love this album! AlwAYS HAVE!
thanks for watching @jimilove7773. I agree, its an album I come back to more so than the others.
My favorite Yes album! My first concert was in 1979 for their tour of this album. Magical. Features the rare Birotron
thanks for watching @ronmueller1164. what a great period to see them live
I'm with you amigo, a unique and very fine album
I love Tormato, always have!
thanks for watching @barryscanlon1690 . I'm nt sure why it's a divisive album. The songs are great.
Always loved it.
The last two minutes of “On the Silent Wings of Freedom” have always been some of my favorite moments from the entire Yes catalog. As a teen in the early 80s I had a hard time believing it was the same band that played “Owner of a Lonely Heart”!
thanks for watching @DJasonBolt. Yes, 90125 was a radical change, but after the initial shock It really grew on me. It sounds a bit dated now but at the time Trver Horn's production sounded quite radical.
great beautiful daring album.
Thanks for watching @SergioLopez-cj2vx. It's one of my favourite Yes albums
I have always loved their music a lot more than their lyrical themes - and this is no exception, but I think this is a very strong musical project
thanks for watching @richfaille6244. When I was a teenager, I liked that their lyrics made little sense to me. I could let my imagination run wild.
@@missedmusic101 agreed, and the lyrics prior to this album were in that category, they were so non-sensical that you just sang along without thinking much about them.
I remember when my brother brought this album home and played it over and over again. The beauty of vinyl is the you will listen to the whole album start to finish. There is no choosing which track to play, you put the needle down and you didn't pick it up until the side ended. Future Times/Rejoice was a song i was heavily influenced by for the fact that my brother played it at maximum volume, and i loved it. Such wonderful memories. Also, Release, Release is a great guitar driven song with an epic Allan White drum solo. Too bad yes didn't play these songs live very often after the Tormato tour,
thanks for watching @nathelm . Unfortunaltey my teenage self would lift up the tonearm and try and plonk it down on the next track I wanted to listen to. Hence all my final were soon very scratched. There are still song that when I listen to them today I expect them to jump at a certain point or continually pay the same groove.
Tormato is one of all-time favorite Yes albums. I remember seeing the Yesshows tour INThe Round 1978 at MarketSquare Arena in Indianapolis. What a show. I personally think that every track on this album is strong. There's not a bad one on the whole album. My favorites are Future Times/Rejoice, Arriving UFO, and SWOF. If you get a chance to see the TORMATO promo video of SWOF, you will not be disappointed. Thanks for posting this video.
Thanks for watching. Your lucky you got to see the tour. I never saw Anderson squire and Howe all play together
Fantastic Album following on from the awesome Going for the One
Thanks for listening
I got to see Yes on the Tormato tour at Madison Square Garden so it's a sentimental favorite of mine.
thanks for watching @georgeedward1226. As a kid it always sounded to me like a band had really made it if they played Madison Square Garden.
Indeed.
Loved that album - especially "release, release"
P.S. I did see this tour (in the round) with Jon Andersons son - there was a lot of musical competition at the time, including punk rock, which pulled people away from the dinosaur bands of the early 70s
did the stage revolve?
I got into Yes listening to "Relayer". I loved that dense sound and admired, as a guitarist, the complexities. I saw them for the first time on the 1977 "Going For The One" tour, and, for many years, cherished and wore out the bootleg cassette I had of this show. By the time I heard 3 songs off the new album on the Friday Rock Show I was a huge Yes fan, having bought and caught up on the albums preceding Relayer. I loved Tormato, and the following , well, tour is a bit of a stretch as they only played a few dates at the old Wembley Arena, was a must. I secured a ticket for Friday the 28th of October 1978, and what proved to be that line up's final series of dates, went to see what I still regard as Yes's finest moments. The live versions of the album tracks they played were far superior to the rather flat studio versions. But the whole of that show was mind blowing, including the very best version of Starship Trooper I have ever heard, and have seen Yes many times since then, in almost all of the band incarnations. Like you I fail to see why Yes fans have such a downer on this album. Sure there are no 15+ minute prog epics, but some of the songs are simply sublime. Circus of Heaven is surely twee, but On The Silent Wings Of Freedom is a cracking track, as are the opening 2, Future Times/Rejoice. The production is a bit, well, flat, lacking the sparkle of Going For The One and Relayer, but it is still a fantastic album, way superior to some of the later albums which have, IMHO, have failed to capture the magic again.
Thanks for watching @zoffo62. I saw them too at Wembley Arena for the 90125 tour. Looking back on it they must have had a huge following to be playing arenas. The only other time I saw them was at the royal Albert hall. I'd love to see them again but can't bring myself to buy tickets to concerts over a year in advance of the actual gig.
Thanks a lot for the video, which has changed my perspective on Tormato qiute a bit.
I remember when it came out I was dissapointed about the cover and the absence of an epic track like on the previous albums. I think one has to understand that artists follow their own path and we can decide whether we like their product or not. In the course of time I started to accept any Yessong in its own right, because they always stir up emotions in me. On the other hand, Yes without Jon' s gifted and unique voice is a different story or band.
thanks for watching @klausschlichting1591
I think the lead single from Tormato ought to have been On the Silent Wings of Freedom
in its entirety.
I see it as being like Roundabout
for the New Wave generation.
That could’ve changed everything.
DJs would’ve sometimes used the first two and a half minutes of the song for making announcements,
just like they did in 1977 with the first eighty or so seconds of David Bowie’s Sound and Vision.
That helped push that particular song to Number 3 in the UK charts.
Silent Wings is a classic that never got proper attention.
Also, calling the album Tor,
as originally intended,
would’ve been best.
thanks for the comment, its a really interesting point. When I got into Yes they had split up and I never thought they would realise another album. Then came 90125 and that was really different!
"On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is 7:45 long. Radio stations might have accepted such a long single from Paul McCartney/Wings or Chicago, but not from a group so out of the pop mainstream as Yes. The band was successful without singles, and they resented "Roundabout" being cut drastically to make a single, so I'm not surprised by their decision.
As an avid fan of Yes when this album came out I bought it and it just didn’t have the bombast and multi facet textures their prior works had. My vinyl sat rarely played for almost ten years and then putting it on it made sense and became a favorite.
When released it just didn’t fit what they had been doing prior. Taken as a starting point or as a fresh return it really is awesome…
thanks for watching @user-fu4jf1si4g. its really interesting that your feelings towards an album can change over the years. I think there must be a lot of good albums that flopped because they just didn't fit into the way fans thought the group should progress. I think that's true for Queen's Hot Space, it got very bad reviews but there are some great songs on it. I didn't really get into queen until The Works so for me Hot Space was just another album rather than a progression in the band's career.
'the boy-child Solomon...the islands of Arabia...' I love it when Jon sticks his head into the astral flow!
thanks for watching
78 was the first year I got to see Yes at Wembley and Tormato was the featured album of the tour. Loved it ever since and Silent Wings is certainly one of my favourite all time Yes tracks
thanks for watching @richardpicking4459. From the comments on here that tour sounded really good. I saw the 90125 tour. I had been into yes for a few years but they no longer existed and I thought they never would again. So the anticipation of seeing them live was high, but I thought Trevor Rabbin butchered all of Steve Howe's guitar parts. I left the concert so disappointed.
Great album. Just love it. I don't need a thousand CTTE's. Would bore me anyway. Yes are still alive 2023. Any other group of that caliber from the 70's ??? Does say a lot. Doesn't it ???
thanks for watching @bellyofanarchitect . I saw them a few years ago, it must have been the last tour before Chris Squire died and they were still excellent.
@@missedmusic101 Saw them last on the OYE Tour in Vienna. Was f... great. Problem with Austria is, Prog groups very seldom come here. It's the home of Mozart and Schlager. Last seen Marillion and Steven Hackett. And that's a f... surprise!
Thank you for re introducing me to this great album.
I bought the vinyl when it was first released. I wasn't too keen on it way back then. I put that down to being introduced to Yes through CTTE , TFTO and Relayer . All three having long form songs . I guess that's just the way I viewed Yes back then.
An idea to consider.
thanks for watching @normanmacfarlane6724. I think if a fan was following yes from the beginning then Tomato is a shock. I only started listening to them in the early 80s so for me it was just another Yes album. I guess if you waited a year for a new release from the band then Tomato might have been a disappointment. Especially is one was hoping they would revert back to long songs.
I love it and loved it on release too. Never understood the so-called or so-claimed hate for it as Silent Wings of Freedom and Release, Release alone make this an incredible purchase.
thanks for watching @FireMunki63 - totally agree with you
Hi. Thanks. Im a big yes fan. Almost 65. To me tormato revealed an internal clash. Ego? Classic yes years had gone. Thats why tormato is odd...with just 2 or 3 interesting parts. They did not like production. Then paris sessions confirmed this crises. It was over . drama therefore was s glass of fresh water
Thanks for your insight. Drama is one album I have never been able to get into.
This was my first venture, at 14, into actually going deep listening to music, and my first Yes album. Living in the then backwaters as regards critical reactions, or any information about rock and pop music at all, I didn’t know for many years that so many fans think of it as a weak album. To me, it set a standard.
I don't see it as weak. I really love the earlier albums but they needs space and time to listen to. You could play this one in the car.
It's probably more popular now than when it came out. I wouldn't say "brilliant" but yeah, several good tunes.
thanks for watching @billmayo1094. I think some of the tracks are brilliant, but there are some weaker elements, but then again, I think that's true of Fragile.
I'm a Yes-Fan from my DNA on. I do love at most GOING FOR THE ONE, CLOSE TO THE EDGE, THE FIRST ALBUM, TORMATO, ABW&H, 90125, DRAMA, and even UNION. I don't need much of their work after UNION, but I loved TORMATO right from the start in 1978. Maybe because I was born behind the iron curtain I din't knew then every Yes-record prior to it, so I wasn't dissapointed in my expactations. True; the name is a big mistake, the tomato-story ist a failure, not to put "On the silent wings of freedom" as the first track on side A was a failure, but what a great battle between Wakeman and Howe throughout the album. "Madrigal" is a masterpiece! Trevor Horn stated that "Don't kill the Whale" would be rubbish, but, honestly: the whole track sounds more like Trevor Horn than Trevor himself. It's a great song! Of course there are weeker moments on this; it isn't CLOSE TO THE EDGE or GOING FOR THE ONE! I think, there are some wannabe-Gurrus among the proggies to tell us over decades what is good and what is not, some of them deaf in their hearts, and the later generations speaks likewise about that stuff. It's all wrong! Use your own ears, don't follow these bashers!
Thanks for watching. I read your comment with interest. I must say I am not a fan of ABW&H - maybe I need to revisit it.
If nothing else, the sonic experimentation was advanced and very cool sounding. Overall, I like the record alot.
thanks for watching
Mój ulubiony Yes( i Drama).
thanks for watching
To all the Gary’s in South Shields
Favorite songs are "Future Times/Rejoice" and "On The Silent Wings Of Freedom". The rest of the album is a tough sell. As others have said, "Tormato" came after all their best work.
Thanks for watching. They are definitely the strongest tracks. Release/Release and onwards are good too.
I love Tormato, a great álbum! Of course, Yes is my preferred band ever. TORMATO is not a masterpiece, but it's a really great album!
thanks for watching. They are one of the few bands I never grow tired off
:)...It's great that you see the brilliance of the album...It's a masterpiece, and up there with their other masterpieces...Here in Philly, We received Tormato with open arms...Jon Anderson called in to one of our radio stations, speaking to one of the popular DJ's It was about 6 months before release...He played the recording of Circus of Heaven OVER THE PHONE from Europe...Crackling telephone lines and all...My buddy recorded it on 8 track......When they toured the album in 78 they sold out 4 nights at the Spectrum...Real and true Yes heads loved this album as much as we love Fragile, or Close TTE... I've listened to it thousands of times and love it even more now...:) Good health to you and yours- Cheers!
thanks for watching @godbluffvdgg and sharing that great story.There's something really quaint about playing the album over the phone to America.
The Rhino remix is even better: lots of unreleased stuff. Wakeman even said of "Tormato" that it's a really good album, but they didn't have enough time to flesh them out.
Thanks for watching. what is the Rhino remix?
My Dad stumbled upon this album obe day and bought it in the late nineties. I loved it ever since i heard it and was amazed at how much some people wrote it off once i watched a lot of reviews. A while back Steve was asked if he ever listened to Van Halen and said that Eddie had him playing faster on this album for sure. The alternate picking says it all.
thanks for watching @dannyholloway2007. The point about Van Halen is interesting. I would never imagine Steve Howe being influenced by another guitarist. I have never really understood his influences he has always sounded (to me at least) unique.
It's clearly a work of brilliance, certainly as compared to the recent drivel that's been served up by some band purporting to be Yes.
Thanks for watching. The album does seem to divide option. I really like it
A good album. The songs are shorter, but well constructed. Just take 'Rejoice' it's a mini epic with several movements and a lovely instrumental mid -section. A mini classic!
thanks for watching @keithplant2860 . I love rejoice
Biblical lyrics
Wonderful music
Jon doing what Jon does
Madigral is great
Circus
Future times
All good
See it all.....
yes, I find it a very uplifting album. I love the twist at the end of circus of heaven
It was a case of the band doing something different. 'Rejoice' is a mini epic with serval movements in just over 3 minutes, As for 'On the Silent Wings of Freedom' enough said!
Thanks for watching Keith - I couldn't agree more.
OK - you've convinced me to revisit this one. I shrugged it off at the time, but I think I'm ready to hear it out of the context of their previous trajectory.
there really are a couple of excellent tracks on the album
YES are supposed to do long rambling spacey songs....so TORMATO got a kick in the teeth....I love TORMATO....
FUTURE TIMES/REJOICE....DON'T KILL THE WHALE....RELEASE,RELEASE....ARRIVING U.F.O....ONWARD....ON THE SILENT WINGS OF FREEDOM were all top songs and should have been played more - live....
'SILENT WINGS' probably in my top 5 yes songs....
Thanks for watching. I really love release, release and silent wings of freedom.
Unique bass sound on this album to. He using a harmonizer on bass and wah pedal
thanks for your comment- I love the bass sound on this album
Love it. It was a formative time for me and was maybe the second Yes album i bought as it was released. Only a few songs dont work for me, but the others work great.
thanks for your comment @rogerisold . I hope the albums brings back some good memories for you.
Nice job here on your video. I always liked Tormato. And, this may be the Yes record that I most often listen to!
thanks for listening @rickhager3288. its a really great album
Funny my name is the same as the below message and i agree with him 100%.
Hi, interesting review
thanks for watching.
I don't know why this record is not held in higher esteem, I think it's the last great prog album of the 1970's. Look at what all the major acts of that genre were doing at this time, is it some great coincidence that they all abandoned long and complicated songs ? I don't think so, I think they were forced into it by their labels. Yes was at their peak after Relayer, but were coerced into the solo album thing, which was a big mistake I think. I do not care for Going For The One, but Tormato is great. I love Chris' bass tone.
Thanks for watching. I agree that going for the one is a bit patchy.
Madrigal had some interesting elements...
heard that jon and rick wrote the songs then gave to steve saying “ok steve, now add the guitar”, and that’s what it sounds like
from what I've read, it doesn't seem like the happiest of times for them.
yes it is..
As a fan of the band from the beginning it was obvious that Tormato was not up to the groups standards -- especially since Going For The One was a "comeback" album of sorts. Even many of the band members admit to this. Add to the fact that the music scene was changing at the time, it came off a little out of date. This too was even evident to the band who altered their sound to a more commercial radio friendly style not too long after its release.
thanks for watching. Your points are really interesting. I must say I really loved 90125 too; although I found the cancer very disappointing. For all its faults I'd rather listen to Tormato than tales of the topographic oceans.
@@missedmusic101 There's some good stuff on Tormato, no doubt. The big problem with Topographic is that it's so rambling. Add some indulgent experimental weirdness that just doesn't work and it's easy to understand the hate for it. I did an edit and made it into a single album, in which case it works a lot better. ua-cam.com/video/lQTMB3OcpMw/v-deo.html
I saw them perform this live.. it changed my opinion of the album :) for the better.
your lucky. I think the only live recording from that album I've heard is don't kill the whale
Ah....Tormato......one of the red-headed step children of YES albums. It's much maligned by YES purists, but I have a confession to make: I love Tormato (Drama too). Great album. Future Times is a great album opener. I love its energy and interplay between the instruments. Really, the album could have an improved reputation if just a few things could have been changed: 1. Do something else besides the audience noises in Release Release. It's a great song, and was thrown off by that brief interlude. 2. Have Wakeman re-imagine some of the keyboard lines in Arriving UFO. It's a good song with a funny concept, and he just needed to have spent a little more time coming up with something other than the explosion sounds he makes on that song, which sound like he just came up with it a few minutes before recording it. Just change that one bit and it would have been much better. 3. Put Circus of Heaven on a Jon Anderson solo album instead of on YES Tormato. Yes, I like it quite a bit, but it's too Jon and not enough YES. 4. Muscle up Madrigal with a full band involvement. It's just too tame without the full band grandiosity you'd expect from YES when doing something calm, like the great Awaken. Overall if just a little bit more time was invested in this album by the band, it would have been received much better by those who didn't care for it. It just needed a little more thought-out parts, and direction for what was on it, but really.....it's only little things that account for only a few minutes. The album overall is great, and I love it. I love anything by YES with only the execption of parts of Union, and perhaps most of the songs on Heaven & Earth.
thanks for watching @genericusername1365. "the ref-headed step child" - that made me laugh. Your points are very perceptive. Maybe people don't like the album because they can hear how good it might have been
First time I saw Yes was in '73, at the ripe old age of 16. I still love these guys. Maybe me and Tormato got started off on the wrong foot. When I saw that cover, I thought, "what in the world"?!! It's still my least fav. cover. I've listened to this 4 or 5 times. I just don't get it. I'll keep trying. peace & love to all...
thanks for @starshiptrooper7670. I think there's a very different perspective to a band's much when you've grown with them release after release. I feel that way about Radiohead
@@missedmusic101 Your exactly right. Thx for your reply man. After Tormato, when Rick and Jon left, I thought it was the end of the world. But I really like Drama. Then Jon (!) comes back, and Steve (no!) leaves. I enjoyed the Trevor Rabin years (except for Big Generator). I'm going to stop there. I'm starting to sound like a history teacher. lol RIP Chris, Alan and Peter Banks...
There is a distinct lack of pandering to known styles which is key to marketing because most persons want to know what social faction music is for before they buy it.
For selling a product to the general public it helps to have the same styles as a desired social faction. For this album the sound combinations, the "orchestration" so to speak are not "correct", they seem original and so resemble no other orchestrations of the time, not even those of other progressive bands, so the crowd turns from you the moment you turn from the crowd.
No loss, Yes didn't get the social or financial perks, but they made a great album. Often times intense emotions are less salable than even keel casual emotions in music, Yes could be very romantic when much of the public is not very romantic.
I think over all I liked RELAYER the best, it had the most intimate moments where there are many single instrument solos mixed with wild orchestrations and moving melodies plus interesting lyrics. Tellingly its most peoples least favorite of their primary albums.
Thanks for watching. Your points are very perceptive
@@missedmusic101 (only after I wrote all that did I see the part about how they had such contempt for their contractual agreements that they dilibratley marginalized this album!)
Thank you for helping me remember that there are some good songs on this album. But there are also some truly painful songs like "Arriving UFO" & "Don't Kill the Whale." But many of the fans have issues with some of the choices Wakeman and Howe made with the sounds of their instruments, especially Wakeman. But the ones you picked are damn good Yes songs.
Then I must be a masochist because I love both of those songs.
@@nathelm You are allowed to love whatever you love. This is all just opinion. Peace.
thanks for watching @skyblueo .I like the sounds they achieve on don't kill the whale, but I would skip arriving UFO.
It's a very good album. Not the best Yes album, but a good one. Direct and simple songs.
thanks for watching @rballester1963. Even not the best is pretty good when your considering a band like Yes.
Those rocks
Yes tor
Pinnacles
Again an idea revisited by Jon on Invention of knowledge LP.....leyline points on earth
thanks for watching @John-rb3yv. that seems to make sense!
I was a new Yes fan when I bought an old warped copy of Tormato. It has its own unique tone and space in which it was recorded in that is so unique. I love Drama but what if the band clicked after this album and went ahead with the recordings that were the Paris Sessions?
thanks for watching @sogggyyy. I think after Tormato the lines up keep changing too rapidly and they never got into the groove of developing or refining a new sound.
They are some very strong tracks on this album like the Silent wings of freedom . I must prefer it to Relayer say.
thanks for watching @davidcunningham2074 I love relayer but its a hard listen and I need to set aside time to listen to it. Tormarto is much easier to dip in and out of.
Even silent wings...second part is odd...as a yes fan i have to accept it
Arriving UFO and Circus Im not keen on but the rest it pretty cool!
Thanks for watching. I completely agree with you.
As I listen it now, I feel that may be something that bring me to not totally appreciated this album at the time of its release and despite I was a Yes fan is the keyboard : the major part of sounds used by Rick Wakeman are "string section" like. This not give to the tracks the "modernity" and renewal that others instruments seems to intend to bring. (sorry for my poor english, I'm french).
Thanks for watching. Your point about the keyboard is very interesting. You're right. The album does seem to have one foot in the past and the other in the future.
Growing up with YES (seventies)
this was the last album, to me, of a legend...
as "Lamb, " Trick," "Wuthering," to Genesis.
Back to YES... this is an underrated album, kiddo's.
And, in my opinion... "Silent Wings" kinda cheesy,
but it's all tasty... great musicianship.
Dig.
Peace on earth.
thanks for watching @kevinogracia1615 - there's nothing wrong with a good piece of cheese!
@@missedmusic101 I suppose, if it's aged properly. Peace on earth.
Tormato and Drama just very good albums.
thanks for listening @chrisdiloreto8379. I never really got into Drama - not sure why. I am going to listen to it again.
I think the problem with Tormato at the time was that it was a far departure from the quality of work people were used to from Yes. By today’s standards, sure…it’s nice. But putting it up to The Yes Album, Fragile, Close to the Edge, Relayer and even the come back of Going For The One, this was the worst of all of those (I dare say that at least for first 2 albums had more heart because they were hungry). Just my opinion. Peace.
It does not have the same feel as those earlier albums and is a little more laid back. The three albums you mentioned are very special to me
Always liked it too. More accessible tham some of their earlier ones for the average music fan. Not in the league of Fragile or Closer to the Edge of course, but still good.
thanks for watching @jimnaylor6009. I love this one too. I think if all of their output sensated of 20 min tracks they would not have survived for so long.
The return of Wakeman was crucial
Since I posted the video I have started to listen re-listen to the band a lot more and have been wondering what each individual member brought to the sound.