Understanding Fork Bombs in 5 Minutes or Less

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  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
  • You've probably seen a fork bomb before, but do you understand how it works? In this video you'll find out.
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  • @EngineerMan
    @EngineerMan  7 місяців тому +433

    Warning: Don't run this on your own system. If you want to test it, create a VM like I did.

    • @VRixxo123
      @VRixxo123 7 місяців тому +24

      Why not. Does it not go away ?

    • @acu01136
      @acu01136 7 місяців тому +16

      Surely hard rebooting the system stops the issue though? With all the normal problems with hard reboots ofcourse.

    • @benargee
      @benargee 7 місяців тому +23

      He probably means that it's the easiest environment to test in and as a general disclaimer to not mess up a system critical machine. At the end of the day you can do whatever you want with your own hardware, just that he's not endorsing it.

    • @daidaloscz
      @daidaloscz 7 місяців тому +56

      Nobody can stop me from running this on our production cluster.
      (I have sudo)

    • @iuhere
      @iuhere 7 місяців тому +8

      Someone (YKIYK) said -
      Why are the warnings at the end of the book 😉

  • @lillii9119
    @lillii9119 7 місяців тому +152

    Short version: it creates a function called : that calls itself infinitely
    Also it calls 2 functions for each function which run at the same time so each step the number of functions is doubled

    • @glukogen5674
      @glukogen5674 7 місяців тому +8

      *Force Multiplication*

  • @demipy
    @demipy 7 місяців тому +231

    I know this classic for over a decade now, but this was such a great video explaining it in detail! Thats the content i love this channel for. No BS straight to the point. ❤

  • @flipperiflop
    @flipperiflop 7 місяців тому +74

    Great explanation! The expanded version really made it go from black magic to "oh it's that simple"

  • @tc2241
    @tc2241 7 місяців тому +51

    I love videos like these. Straight to the point, clearly explained with concise examples and demonstrations

  • @paulm3702
    @paulm3702 7 місяців тому +16

    Wow that's interesting! Love the breakdown of how that code actually worked

  • @alicefraser5799
    @alicefraser5799 7 місяців тому +8

    That's why I love your content EM. Learning so much from you. Keep them coming :)

  • @alexanderaphonin7850
    @alexanderaphonin7850 7 місяців тому +2

    Great video, great explanation! Thank you for putting in the effort each time!

    • @EngineerMan
      @EngineerMan  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for the kind words.

  • @comosaycomosah
    @comosaycomosah 7 місяців тому

    dude idk how i havent came across your content yet but i dig it.

  • @n8style
    @n8style 7 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic explanation, quality video

  • @loverboykimi
    @loverboykimi 7 місяців тому +1

    Great education. Appreciated.

  • @penguinpatroller
    @penguinpatroller 7 місяців тому

    great video. concise and informative

  • @yousefm.b4260
    @yousefm.b4260 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow!! this guy actually explained it very well.. I like it

  • @h3dzer
    @h3dzer 7 місяців тому

    I love this new series

  • @jackflowt
    @jackflowt 7 місяців тому

    Great explanation!

  • @prinnydadnope5768
    @prinnydadnope5768 7 місяців тому

    Very clear, thank you again

  • @headlights-go-up
    @headlights-go-up 7 місяців тому

    great explanation!

  • @BradenJohnYoung
    @BradenJohnYoung 7 місяців тому

    Great explanation

  • @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
    @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 7 місяців тому

    I've seen it a number of times recently. Used to be kind of common, then it seemed to get old and I didn't see it so much, now it seems to be common again.

  • @chawrx3
    @chawrx3 7 місяців тому

    keep it up brother, have a nice day everyone

  • @Evercreeper
    @Evercreeper 7 місяців тому

    Excellent video

  • @warchild3948
    @warchild3948 7 місяців тому +1

    " this is the initial call to fork me"
    How did you say that with a straight face.. Cuz I am rolling 😂 😂

  • @YammoYammamoto
    @YammoYammamoto 6 місяців тому +1

    The colon being a valid function name was what blew my mind. :D

  • @takuya.yagami.
    @takuya.yagami. 7 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @SomeGuyInSandy
    @SomeGuyInSandy 7 місяців тому

    You have to love it!

  • @revx144
    @revx144 4 місяці тому +2

    I actually did this in my phone, good thing I did some buttons and it restarted. I was so scared but I was relieved when it restarted successfully.

  • @iskuben88
    @iskuben88 7 місяців тому

    great video! Brings back memories of crashing uni sun-ray clients ;)

  • @mrdzha9519
    @mrdzha9519 6 місяців тому

    thanks, it was interesting!

  • @rogo7330
    @rogo7330 7 місяців тому +27

    Pipe is not the real issue here that causes program to explode. When you running a function, shell executes whatever command you gave it (and forks itself to execute external programs), but ampersand makes shell not to wait for a job to complete and then return but instead put that job in a background and let user to cleanup it with a wait command manualy.
    What is a job? Job is basically a group of processes with the same Process group ID (read manpage 7 credentials to learn more). Shell, when you launch several command with a pipe between them, first calls fork, then in a child assigns the same PGID as it's PID to itself, then it calls more forks which will inherit the same PGID (despite having new PIDs) with their stdins and stdouts connected one to another, and then each of that child executes whatever command you gave it to execute.
    Why PGID needed? To call kill command on the whole group of processes with the same PGID instead of calling kill to each one of them, or even lose control when initial child died and replaced itself with a new process with new PID. Since PGID is inherited by the child, and if child does not changes it explicitly by calling setpgid, you can just `kill -- -${child_pid}` (notice the minus before the process id and double-minus to make kill take that negative pid not as another option but as a pid value). This is how shell kills the whole pipe sequence at once.
    And yes, if child changes its PGID, its becoming immune to group kill (the game was rigged from the start), which does makes sence, but its hard to work around this if you really want to end all child and grandchildren processes, if at all possible. Try to write cron yourself, you will spend on it at least a hour or two of experimenting with what works and what not if you start from scratch knowing nothing about jobs, PGID, SID, what kill and wait calls allow you to do and what permissions you have to play with for changing processes credentials.

  • @ABaumstumpf
    @ABaumstumpf 7 місяців тому +3

    You can do the same on Windows, but normally the system does not outright crash and you can recover from that (with taskmanager).

  • @lancemarchetti8673
    @lancemarchetti8673 6 місяців тому +3

    Cool! I've created a jpeg bomb of 530 bytes that renders 4 billion pixels to the screen when opened. It freezes my laptop.. lol.
    I achieved this neat trick in Notepad ++ by accident when editing the Hex values in the dimensions sector of the code....

  • @okunamayanad
    @okunamayanad 7 місяців тому

    i understood the fork bomb at 1:00 great title

  • @iangraham6730
    @iangraham6730 7 місяців тому

    Noice 👌 Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @matejhurta5626
    @matejhurta5626 7 місяців тому +2

    I kinda accidentally let it loose on the uni network and it crashed the network for a few days and I got failed :(

  • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
    @VivekYadav-ds8oz 7 місяців тому +10

    Cant you do the same thing without the pipe? It feels like
    f(){f&}; f should do the same job. If you want to increase the forks exponentially, just have each function run two other ones like so:
    f(){f&; f&}; f

    • @ktheveg
      @ktheveg 7 місяців тому +1

      Might be written with a pipe to make things neater or smaller

    • @prontomatias3081
      @prontomatias3081 7 місяців тому

      look at @rogo7330 comments

  • @nnutipa
    @nnutipa 7 місяців тому +12

    Thanks. But the most interesting part with pipe and fork itself were not covered:( You said pipe is what actually creates a fork bomb, but why?

    • @patocarrasco6266
      @patocarrasco6266 7 місяців тому +8

      yeah, I also missed that. In my head, the second argument is waiting for the given input by the first one, so it should remain inactive. The only thing that I know is that the prior is wrong xD

    • @prontomatias3081
      @prontomatias3081 7 місяців тому

      look at @rogo7330 comments

    • @DerMigi
      @DerMigi 6 місяців тому

      @@patocarrasco6266this is the exact same question I have. Does anyone have an answer?

    • @Turalcar
      @Turalcar 6 місяців тому +2

      Piped processes are launched by bash in parallel

  • @SoreBrain
    @SoreBrain 7 місяців тому +1

    It's tempting

  • @Apersonl0l
    @Apersonl0l 7 місяців тому +2

    so it's basically how all my recursion functions go? :))))

  • @cepi24
    @cepi24 7 місяців тому

    How did you replace semicolons with text?

  • @willmckeand
    @willmckeand 7 місяців тому +1

    Pipe bomb would've been a great name for this

  • @joey3070
    @joey3070 6 місяців тому

    Delightful

  • @davidserrano2091
    @davidserrano2091 7 місяців тому +1

    Time to run it on my system

  • @Baltr
    @Baltr 7 місяців тому +1

    are you able to pipe it multiple times inside the same command to make it crash the system faster?

    • @alexholker1309
      @alexholker1309 6 місяців тому

      I don't think it would make a meaningful difference. You'd crash the system in fewer generations, but it would take longer to resolve each instance of the process.

  • @theoreticalaxolotl2804
    @theoreticalaxolotl2804 Місяць тому

    My roommate will love this prank

  • @saptamdutta
    @saptamdutta Місяць тому

    hey guys i want to know what other pranks have u done like this?

  • @repairstudio4940
    @repairstudio4940 7 місяців тому

    Awesomeness 🎉

  • @GeorgeAlexanderTrebek
    @GeorgeAlexanderTrebek 7 місяців тому

    Spoon Nuke next plz

  • @tobiashelbing1233
    @tobiashelbing1233 7 місяців тому

    Great!

  • @EnglishRain
    @EnglishRain 7 місяців тому

    Nice didn't know you could limit number of processes for a user

  • @siri-v18-non-intelligence-b-2
    @siri-v18-non-intelligence-b-2 2 місяці тому

    do you need the &?

  • @DUMBDUDEGAMER
    @DUMBDUDEGAMER 7 місяців тому

    I wonder how this does on WSL

  • @sam_ldm
    @sam_ldm 7 місяців тому

    what if i write this in my bashrc ?

  • @garrysingh4484
    @garrysingh4484 7 місяців тому

    Awesome 👍

  • @L-Coder
    @L-Coder 6 місяців тому

    type the command 'gnome-terminal' (or any other command that opens a bash shell) in the end of the .bashrc file and save it and then see the magic when you open a terminal.😂 You might to do it in the .zshrc file depending on the type of shell you are using (bash or zsh = Bourne Again Shell or Z shell).

  • @shahfaisal3923
    @shahfaisal3923 7 місяців тому

    you won a subscriber

  • @Drogobo
    @Drogobo 7 місяців тому

    what do you mean by "friends on linux"?

  • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
    @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 7 місяців тому

    when you use fish shell for several good reasons and the "expert professionals" roll their eyes at you.

  • @macethorns1168
    @macethorns1168 7 місяців тому +4

    The only reason I was confused when I first saw this was that I didn't know you could use a colon as a function name. It makes much more sense as f(){f|f&};f
    It seems many modern 'nux systems default to limiting the number of forks a process can start now.

  • @hkkis7836
    @hkkis7836 7 місяців тому

    Could you please show your hotkeys for the editor?

  • @louisdrouard9211
    @louisdrouard9211 7 місяців тому

    Does not :(){:&;:&} do the same thing (without pipe) ?

  • @richarduton
    @richarduton 7 місяців тому +1

    This isn't a fork bomb it's a picture of a cat.

  • @m3sm4r2010
    @m3sm4r2010 7 місяців тому +1

    fyi: i have tested this code on my android phone and it works 😂

  • @mynameismynameis666
    @mynameismynameis666 7 місяців тому

    forbidden emojis are teh most powahful

  • @RlainTheFirst
    @RlainTheFirst 7 місяців тому

    What about :(){:&;:&);:
    Also exponential or linear?

    • @patfre
      @patfre 7 місяців тому

      It will do the same as at 4:25

  • @victorsubbiah6077
    @victorsubbiah6077 6 місяців тому

    shouldn't proliferating dummy processes just hang the system forever?
    why would it crash the system anyway?

  • @connorallen162
    @connorallen162 7 місяців тому +1

    Oh THAT's why you don't want everything to be run by the root user

  • @adrianbool4568
    @adrianbool4568 7 місяців тому

    Fork me, that was a good video! ;-)

  • @devviz
    @devviz 7 місяців тому

    if you set the video playing speed fast enough you can almost hear "fork me" to another very similar term

  • @philipzhu5194
    @philipzhu5194 7 місяців тому

    What happens if instead of piping, you start 2 background processes each time? like :(){:&:&};:

  • @docker31c
    @docker31c 6 місяців тому +1

    So i got trolled in a stackoverflow question...

  • @rebel478
    @rebel478 7 місяців тому

    Oh no I'm wrong, your right eyebrow is still always higher than the other one

  • @K_Forss
    @K_Forss 6 місяців тому

    I remember my first attempt at a fork bomb, it was perhaps 15 years ago in high school and I wrote it in C, it didn't really work too well, I probably had some more advanced scheduler than I thought and while it slowed down my computer I was able to still kill the process. But I added a small malloc (about 4k if I remember correctly) in the loop ant it totally freezed my computer in seconds. Fun times
    Edit: If I had known more when I was young I'd probably done a mix of forking and daemonizing to try to hit it harder

  • @KangJangkrik
    @KangJangkrik 7 місяців тому +1

    Ran this on production server for fun, bos didn't seem really enjoy it

  • @mikerope5785
    @mikerope5785 7 місяців тому

    i was sad when browsers started detecting and halting infinite javascript recursions

  • @HiddenTreasure-xj7yt
    @HiddenTreasure-xj7yt 7 місяців тому

    I made a batch bomb in the 90s.

  • @danielbaker1248
    @danielbaker1248 3 місяці тому

    Fork me, this is interesting!(:

  • @Cassandra_Johnson
    @Cassandra_Johnson 7 місяців тому

    ah yes, for(;;){fork();} good times...

  • @iuhere
    @iuhere 7 місяців тому

    stress testing without a stop 🛑 button 😅

  • @The_Pariah
    @The_Pariah 7 місяців тому

    So you watched Dave's Garage and made your own fork bomb video. K.

  • @cni_povkit
    @cni_povkit 7 місяців тому +5

    "Fork me". That's what she said.

  • @kiyasuihito
    @kiyasuihito 6 місяців тому

    Hilarious 🎉

  • @ai-spacedestructor
    @ai-spacedestructor 7 місяців тому

    the VM setup is questional, you said you had to restart your system and the VM. sounds like you gave it too much pc resources or using some vm i never heard about before which doesnt asign a limited number of resources in order to run it.

    • @EngineerMan
      @EngineerMan  7 місяців тому

      I only had to restart the VM, not my whole system.

    • @ai-spacedestructor
      @ai-spacedestructor 7 місяців тому

      @@EngineerMan you did say in the video something about your vm and the whole system after it crashed. might have misunderstood but to me it did sound like you said you had to restart the whole system.

  • @Angelinajolieshorts
    @Angelinajolieshorts 4 місяці тому

    Can you please tecah us these skills. Please 🙏🙏🙏

  • @cmoor8616
    @cmoor8616 6 місяців тому

    Reminds me of the prankster batch files for cmd.exe I used to make during my windows years. The simplest I managed to create (DO NOT RUN THIS)
    %0 >> %0
    %0
    With an empty line after,

  • @chromosome24
    @chromosome24 6 місяців тому +1

    I prefer the spoon bomb

  • @clockblower6414
    @clockblower6414 7 місяців тому +1

    You can fix a lot of problems in Linux by running sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda

  • @googleuser4720
    @googleuser4720 7 місяців тому

    Is your name a Daniel?

  • @florianmattausch8563
    @florianmattausch8563 7 місяців тому

    It is Not exponential. it is just times 2.

    • @patfre
      @patfre 7 місяців тому +4

      Exponential is repeated multiplication. So it is exponential because it is multiplying by 2 over and over

  • @n0tjak
    @n0tjak 7 місяців тому

    hi :)

  • @Alex-eq1cs
    @Alex-eq1cs 2 місяці тому

    Systemd solution this.... Límite del 30% de procesos máximos del sistema.

  • @colonthree
    @colonthree 7 місяців тому

    Cat :3

  • @enty-3035
    @enty-3035 4 місяці тому

    %0|%0 is the windows version it is fun

  • @rebel478
    @rebel478 7 місяців тому

    How is your eyebrow straight again

  • @cruz1ale
    @cruz1ale 7 місяців тому

    fork bombs are for dorks

  • @MrGeekGamer
    @MrGeekGamer 7 місяців тому

    "There is ways"
    There are.

  • @mikebresnahan8682
    @mikebresnahan8682 7 місяців тому

    Being an old fart, I have to point out that the fork bomb existed prior to linux, albeit with the same shell syntax you describe. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb

  • @darienverdugo290
    @darienverdugo290 7 місяців тому

    What if i run it on an instance 🥸