Just want to thank you for your daily inspiration. I ran my first marathon in 2019 with a time or 4:34. 2 weeks ago I ran my 2nd marathon with a time of 3:35. Excited about the future!
QOD: running the Amsterdam marathon tomorrow! It's going to be my first official one and you kinda were the one that got me hooked into running it and running in general because if you search YT for the Amsterdam marathon all your videos pop up and I didn't stop since!! I'm really excited and a bit nervous as well but I gotta believe in the training and the work I put in! A goal = 3:30 B goal = 3:40 and C goal = sub 4 hours and finish with a smile 😁! Thanks for all the creative content and keep up the work!
@@SethJamesDeMoor I am back in Amsterdam too :D For my second marathon, after the last Amsterdam edition in 2019 ^^ Aiming for a sub 3 hours ! Good race to you Kevin, and Detroit HM tune-up race ;-)
Racing my first marathon tomorrow in Grand Rapids Michigan! Shooting for sub 4. Got into running about a year ago and found inspiration through your videos. Butter my bread🤙🏼
Found the channel by chance, but the first shoe I remember you reviewing is the baby blue NB Beacons! How cool that you showed them. Watched all vlogs since.
Currently running in the three and again like the first the major problem I have is around 250miles they started to feel very flat, don’t expect a long lifetime other than that, great ahoe
This is great! I took off over a year of running and am recently getting back into it. I have a fresh pair of the Rincon 1 I bought back then to use as a daily trainer and get back in shape.
I did my first marathon on Sunday this weekend! In Perth, Western Australia. Shout out to the amazing WA Marathon Club crew and volunteers at all the stations and for everyone getting out of bed at 6.30 am on a weekend to cheer us all on along the course. I finished 4:48:33 and is very happy with that, being my first!
Still have my Rinçons 1s. Did 800km in them. Guess it depends on how you run, how much you weigh. Sure there’s obvious wear but they managed 500 miles!!! Great shoes for the money that’s for sure!
Thanks for the daily inspiration and input Seth! With your early morning posts it's become part of my routine to finish the run, stretch out and enjoy what you're sharing while I use the foam roller. Thanks and keep going!!🔥🔥🔥
Remember the baby blue!! Good that you kept the rincon V1/V2 as comparison.QD: Had my A race last week end so still in full recovery mode, no running this weekend. That feels a little strange but I know it’s the right thing to do for the body!
I had the first rincon, it was great shoes for me. It already had over 900km, ranging from road to trail running. Now im in process searching the rincon 3
Woohooo the weekend is finally here, running Amsterdam Marathon, inspired by your vlog of the race! It's my first marathon but I've put a lot of work in and I'm aiming for sub 2:35! Also great timing, third iteration of my first proper running shoe, what a hero!
Racing in Amsterdam this weekend. Been watching your videos from a couple of years back to get inspiration👍 3:15 ish would be nice. Rocking the Alphafly's!
I'm giving some back to the running community this weekend by volunteering as a Steward at a local race in the UK 🇬🇧 I'd love to be racing but we all need those stewards so I'm making it happen for other this time round. Happy racing everyone 👍
QD: im running the 4 Bridges Half Marathon tomorrow in Chattanooga, TN. This will be my 4th year running it. I’m 66 and hope to beat my PR of 1:51 Thanks for your inspiration.
At what point do the shoe companies have enough respect for this man that they won’t charge him anymore? I would of let him have them years ago. At the very least it would give an honest review which is valuable, but in addition it broadcasts it to an Audience that is interested in running. Should pay for itself! Love the channel! What an inspiration, it’s hard getting consistent, not to mention over years!
QD: Racing the Liverpool Rock n Roll Marathon next weekend (plus the 5k the day before). Going to be really interesting as this will be the last ever Liverpool Rock n Roll Marathon. I havent quite decided whether to try my hardest or just enjoy the run and soak in the amazing scouse atmosphere.
I'm doing the Naperville Half Marathon in Naperville, IL. This will be my third, but first "official" half. My goal is to run the whole thing without a walking or stopping. And... Goal ACHEIVED!! I ran it all, 2:29.
Good food for thought with the rincons, i have always go e for the clifton because of durability, the 3's might be a new addition 👍 Qod 6 hour race, hoping to set a course record if training has gone to plan? Keep up the good work Seth 🏃
Tucson Wicked Half Marathon tomorrow(11/17). A-goal is 1:38. B-goal is retribution! This is the same exact course I ran on in March that didn't go so well. Leading up to the race I had a niggle in my left arch that turned in to full blown 10/10 PF within the first 2mi. Finished the race but felt pretty disheartened. Good thing it's close to Halloween, so people wont be worried when they see a monster on the course! I'm coming for you silverbell loop!
QD: I found the channel looking for reviews for the Rincon one 👟 haven't miss missed a single episode since 😎 still in my rotation for long run ! have run over 450 miles (776Km) 🏆 and still enjoying them - no major wear out
Create a "Museum of Running Shoes." Their could be a department devoted to each brand. ;-) I have enjoyed your reviews and that of others very, very much. So much I ended becoming a bit of a shoe collector. I now have 13 pairs of shoes with the Reebok Floatride Energy 3 and the Puma Velocity Nitro on the way. This morning I will be running a local 10K in my hometown of Pomona, Ca. My goal, 9:30 pace in my S/E Speeds.
QD: raced today in Middelburg, The Netherlands 🇳🇱 5 loops on a city course. 6.75km in total. 3.31 per km finished 6sth overall in a time of 23:40. Shaving 1:22 off my time from 2019 😁 consistand training and a higher volume paidoff today 😊
Shout out to the Beacon v1. Such a great shoe. I got a pair because of your feedback. Also the Rincon 1, and most probably the v3 as I skipped the v2 while I have other brands in rotation. Novablast also another highlight from your channel and FODRunner :) If not because I can´t find my size for the Rincon 3, I would buy a pair right away.
Got my first pair of Rincons, Rincon 3s, last month. My daily trainers are Cliftons, I was about to retire a pair of Clifton 7s, and wanted something that contrasted with my Clifton 8s. As a fairly recent newcomer to running I am advised that varying shoes is good practice, and it seems to work for Seth. Whatever, I am impressed with the Rincons and the price. They have a similar feel to the Carbon X2s I'm doing my event running and long runs in. I'll be checking on their durability. They are £115 in the UK. That's cheap for a pair of Hoka anythings, but it's a lot for a little old pensioner.
No races scheduled for me until late May 2022. It is now spring marathon base building time, but I won’t say there won’t be any racing until then. I am still trying to find a half marathon tube up in March/April and may pop into a 5k for fun!
QD: Amsterdam half marathon, I'm going to try 01:35:00. This is my first race where I have a goal besides just attending. I'm a bit nervous but also very excited and looking forward to it!
I actually got a lot of miles out of my Rincon 2s last winter. For what ever reason the Rincon 3 didn't wow me on foot compared the Mach 4 which I've lived in all summer. I find it interesting with Hokas 3 everyday trainers you got the Rincon and Mach at lighter weight than the Clifton and at the same or cheaper price. Not sure where they have the Clifton going in the future to differentiate itself. QD: no race for me this weekend. Running a Marathon out in Western PA on NYC Weekend. Hopefully in 2023 I can run my home the big apple!
I loved the OG Rincon A LOT (after a “meh” initial phase though). Squeezed out 200 miles before they went lifeless almost overnight. Midsole wear&tear wasn’t too bad, but I guess it gave up because of my heavy 🍑 in the end. So durability is definitely an issue in the Rincon lineup, but I like to think about it as a feature, not a bug, justifying buying new shoes 😂
QD: I’m racing my second half marathon on Sunday in western Maryland. I’m hoping to go sub 1hr 21 mins. I ran 1:24.45 in my first half earlier this year but my training has been a lot better this time around and I’m racing a flatter course.
QD: I will be racing Paris Marathon tomorrow Sunday ! Will be my first at 44 yo, and it is the 44th Edition. I prepared myself to do it in 3h30 with eyes up, pumped arms and quick feet ;) Love LOGO #4 with 2 legs only... but I said this on Strava already. Look forward to the next marathon (Biarritz, France June 5th), with the new logo on my singlet ! Onward and Upward !
QD: Sadly there is still no racing yet here in Victoria, Australia, although it will happen soon, just not yet. Having said that we got Flotrack so we can watch the marathon majors which is something at least. I would like to comment on the Rincon series. I tried on the original version in 2019 and found them to be too narrow for my feet across the toe box. I understand that the 2 & 3 are a bit wider, but COVID has limited my ability to try them on because we in regional Victoria have been unable, at times, to visit the capital and our local Hoka stockist won't stock them because of their low longevity (yes Iasked and that's what they said). I ran in my first pair of Saucony Endorphin Speed yesterday, and hit 800km (500mi). They are now wearing through the outer sole in places and the mid sole is breaking down but they are still wearable for short easy and recovery runs. I have never had a more durable shoe in my running career, dating back to the 1980s. Durability is the biggest challenge with the Rincon, I'm not sure it's worth it.
Not often I disagree with you Seth but I would not recommend the Rincon series over the Cliftons. With the Rincon 1 and 2 which I owned both the fit from the lacing was sub par and the foam dies quickly. I have several Clifton models which fit perfectly and are capable of 350 plus miles. You would have to buy 2-3 pairs of Rincons to get the same amount of mileage from one Clifton. Until they prove that the new foam holds up and the lock down from the bad lacing is improved I will stay away from the Rincon.
I have both and equally like them. I think Rincon are better all round. Lighter, similar cushion on Rincon and a bit more comfort on clifton. If I could only have 1 ++probably Clifton for long term.
Survivalrun in Neede 14km, but i guess nobody here knows this sport i guess :') . Kind of similar to OCR but with a greater emphasis on the obstacles which are more technically challenging.
The durability issues with the Rincon 1 turned me off of that shoe, maybe I’ll have to pick up the version 3 to see how much improvement there has been. Like you, I still have my version 1s laying around somewhere for comparison.
Fortunately for Hoka, some folks who experienced this midsole durability durability issue still gave them a second chance with other models. I was like "nope" and didn't come back - there are other strong candidates in the fast-day category, and I wasn't partial to Hoka. I kept my flattened Rincon 2 as a casual wear, and it's a nice conversation starter.
QOD: Tomorrow morning I am running a half marathon in Guangzhou, which is also my tune up race for the upcoming marathon in November in Shanghai. I hope to run it in 1h40ish . This race unfortunately is not an official one, is a charity run to raise money for homeless people. Let's go guys, wish you all a great run this weekend!
Hey Seth, you don’t need to explain why you save the your shoes 😊. But I can tell you this - I like you comments and opinions on new version of the shoes and don’t care much about older version when watching videos. I will take your word for it n no need to see the shoe in your hand.
After 100 miles I started to feel like these shoes were dying. I'm heavier than the average runner, but for me the midsole just went so fast in the Rincon over other shoes.
Loving the rincon 3 at the moment. Would love to see hoka do a nylon plated version, similar to what the have done with the carbon verson of the bondi and made the bondi X.
@@DaveIrish66 yes and no. It depends on the type amd style they use. The saucony speed still has some torsional aspects to it. Sketchers use a H plate configuration in the fore foot only. Adidas do a stringer/rod style similarly found in sufing/bodyboard construction with their foams. In bodyboards if the foam has to many deep creases the foam looses projection/snap and the board feels dead, like in running shoes, So the stringer help keep recoil.
See the rocket X mate. I have Rincon 2 and rocket X... Definitely don't need plate in Rincon imo. Rincon is a daily light that can be used for easy to tempo to up to 1/2 marathon. Plate will increase price as well. Rocket X is the way to go if you want plate. Love that shoe as well 👟
@@Bodhished totally get your point, but what if you don't want carbon and you find it too stiff and agressive. There is a missed market there that Hoka could tap into. I didn't like the rincon 1 or 2 as much as I loved the rincon 3. The fit is way better, foam way softer. The price of the rincon with a nylon plate would put it the same price as the saucony endorphin speed 2. Quick question does the rocket x fit like the the rincon 1 and 2 cause they where to narrow. Cheers mate
Rincon 1 was my first of your videos Seth. Been watch everyday since! I miss the early days of being able to binge watch hours and hours of your past videos to try to catch up. It took me a while to realize this was a daily vlog and catching up was nearly impossible! Keep up the great work!!
QUESTION: how do you feel about shoe companies who dare to achieve. By this i mean, small evolutions of a shoe v big change. Example.. Pegasus.. steady evolution.. New balance rebel v1 (great shoe) would have been easy to tweak… however v2.. huge change (I loved/love the V1) .. but the v2 is awesome. I respect NB more for daring to do, but appreciate Nike knows it’s market
250-300 miles?! No way, these were dead at around 200 miles maybe even less. I’ve had two pairs of the first version because I loved the shoe and can’t complain for $115.
At Rincon’s value proposition though, a similarly performing pair of shoes lasting 300 mi would be worth over $170. Mine did the same thing around 140 mi, so it was even worse.
Rincon is the best shoe I’ve ever had for comfortable but fast 1/2 marathons but the durability is horrible! Rincon 1 only lasted 140 miles. Really curious about version 3 but worried the midsole will die early.
i have got a pair of rincon 1 they have about 850k. After 50-100k the outsole got a bit ripped off but not too bad. The upper still looks very good! In the heel there is sign of wearing. I should post a foto. The midsole is not as it was, but they did just surprise me.
@@schlossstadtlauferin8431 Danke für die Antwort. Denke eher an die Haltbarkeit der Mittelsohle/foam beim Rincon. Laufe unterschiedliche Marken..., bzgl. foam überzeugt mich HOKA bisher nicht.
Maybe you could compromise? For instance set a limit like after 3 or 4 versions or 3-4 years , then donate ? Aware you partially are a professional shoe reviewer but you could donate after a few versions. Also doesn’t the foam get stiff to some extent with age so cannot totally make accurate comparisons on feel with several years old shoe to newest version ?
Q: I tend to take penny pinching to the next level. You had me thinking the other day when you calculated the price per year for your favorite shirt(s) at a higher price point. Wondering if you have a video or considered a breakdown list on your best value training shoe? ie: most mileage shoe for the lowest price? I tend to keep my pricey shoes for race day (or minimal use for training). What would be your list for the (1)Best Training shoe(s) w/ the (2)Most Mileage for (3)The Lowest Cost? 🤔
I’m a mature runner and find that the weight of any running shoes is not really as important as overall fit. I have been running in the Rincon Three and Pegasus 37. For me the Hoka is head and shoulders superior to the Nike including stability.
I think the poor durability makes this an expensive shoe. They definitely need to improve this. I've had 2 pairs of rincon 2 and the midsole was flat and useless at the midfoot strike area after 200km. I'm 85kg so maybe works better for a slightly lighter run but I don't get this problem in any other shoe
I got 550 miles out of my Rincon 1 without any issues at all. Granted that pair was mostly treadmill, but also a fair amount on Kansas country roads. Honestly, I will probably keep them in rotation just to get them to 600 miles. No tears or anything, but the foam has definitely lost its spunk. Replacing them with some Rincon 2's I got for very cheap. I will get the 3 for sure.
Hoka really has to refresh their product lines. They've lost the maximalist niche and they lack a high performance foam. The Mach 4 is a good shoe but that's about the only popular shoe they have on the roads.
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Just want to thank you for your daily inspiration. I ran my first marathon in 2019 with a time or 4:34. 2 weeks ago I ran my 2nd marathon with a time of 3:35. Excited about the future!
QOD: running the Amsterdam marathon tomorrow! It's going to be my first official one and you kinda were the one that got me hooked into running it and running in general because if you search YT for the Amsterdam marathon all your videos pop up and I didn't stop since!! I'm really excited and a bit nervous as well but I gotta believe in the training and the work I put in! A goal = 3:30 B goal = 3:40 and C goal = sub 4 hours and finish with a smile 😁! Thanks for all the creative content and keep up the work!
QoD: Amsterdam Marathon, First timer so finishing is the A Goal 😊 rocking the CarbonX2’s tomorrow!
Love Amsterdam, enjoy the journey Kevin
@@SethJamesDeMoor I am back in Amsterdam too :D For my second marathon, after the last Amsterdam edition in 2019 ^^ Aiming for a sub 3 hours ! Good race to you Kevin, and Detroit HM tune-up race ;-)
Good luck! I'm not quite there yet, I'll be there for the half marathon!
Hey im joinning my mom for a 5k race tomorrow.. Also in Carbon X2s.. my favorite fast shoe.. even short distance 😂 good luck !!
Racing my first marathon tomorrow in Grand Rapids Michigan! Shooting for sub 4. Got into running about a year ago and found inspiration through your videos. Butter my bread🤙🏼
I found the channel back in July 2019!! You had 12k subs, love the Rincons and your journey!
Long timer !
Found the channel by chance, but the first shoe I remember you reviewing is the baby blue NB Beacons! How cool that you showed them. Watched all vlogs since.
Wow James, you're an original!!
Currently running in the three and again like the first the major problem I have is around 250miles they started to feel very flat, don’t expect a long lifetime other than that, great ahoe
Agree, spot on there. Great shoe but still it's that overall lifespan.
Loop the lake half marathon, Syracuse NY on Sunday. Looking for that sub 1:30! Have a great day DGR
Go out there and crush it!
This is great! I took off over a year of running and am recently getting back into it. I have a fresh pair of the Rincon 1 I bought back then to use as a daily trainer and get back in shape.
Found you looking for Rincon and Clifton 6 reviews and been here ever since! Love all that you do and how inspiring you are!
Lets gooo DGR Strong, thanks for all the work you do Seth
I did my first marathon on Sunday this weekend! In Perth, Western Australia. Shout out to the amazing WA Marathon Club crew and volunteers at all the stations and for everyone getting out of bed at 6.30 am on a weekend to cheer us all on along the course. I finished 4:48:33 and is very happy with that, being my first!
Still have my Rinçons 1s. Did 800km in them. Guess it depends on how you run, how much you weigh. Sure there’s obvious wear but they managed 500 miles!!! Great shoes for the money that’s for sure!
Not only a Shoedio, but also a Shoeseum in the DeMoor house! Love it ❤️
Thanks for the daily inspiration and input Seth! With your early morning posts it's become part of my routine to finish the run, stretch out and enjoy what you're sharing while I use the foam roller. Thanks and keep going!!🔥🔥🔥
I can't wait to see the DGR Running Shoe Museum some day!
Remember the baby blue!! Good that you kept the rincon V1/V2 as comparison.QD: Had my A race last week end so still in full recovery mode, no running this weekend. That feels a little strange but I know it’s the right thing to do for the body!
Onward and Upward!
I brought the rincon 1 on your advice years ago and just recently went back to it for training. Great shoe. Versatile is the word for this shoe.
Still wearing my rincon 1's! Bought them after the 2's came out.
I had the first rincon, it was great shoes for me. It already had over 900km, ranging from road to trail running. Now im in process searching the rincon 3
Woohooo the weekend is finally here, running Amsterdam Marathon, inspired by your vlog of the race! It's my first marathon but I've put a lot of work in and I'm aiming for sub 2:35!
Also great timing, third iteration of my first proper running shoe, what a hero!
Racing in Amsterdam this weekend. Been watching your videos from a couple of years back to get inspiration👍 3:15 ish would be nice. Rocking the Alphafly's!
I'm giving some back to the running community this weekend by volunteering as a Steward at a local race in the UK 🇬🇧 I'd love to be racing but we all need those stewards so I'm making it happen for other this time round. Happy racing everyone 👍
QD: im running the 4 Bridges Half Marathon tomorrow in Chattanooga, TN.
This will be my 4th year running it.
I’m 66 and hope to beat my PR of 1:51
Thanks for your inspiration.
At what point do the shoe companies have enough respect for this man that they won’t charge him anymore? I would of let him have them years ago. At the very least it would give an honest review which is valuable, but in addition it broadcasts it to an Audience that is interested in running. Should pay for itself!
Love the channel! What an inspiration, it’s hard getting consistent, not to mention over years!
QD: Racing the Liverpool Rock n Roll Marathon next weekend (plus the 5k the day before). Going to be really interesting as this will be the last ever Liverpool Rock n Roll Marathon. I havent quite decided whether to try my hardest or just enjoy the run and soak in the amazing scouse atmosphere.
I think this is the first Rincon model that comes in Wide. IM HYPED!
I'm doing the Naperville Half Marathon in Naperville, IL. This will be my third, but first "official" half. My goal is to run the whole thing without a
walking or stopping. And... Goal ACHEIVED!! I ran it all, 2:29.
Not sure what shoe brought me to the channel but def remember the rincon 1 and the baby blue vlogs
Love the Rincon lineup. Hoping to pick up the Rincon 3 in a few months! Thanks for the comparison of the 3 shoes!
Good food for thought with the rincons, i have always go e for the clifton because of durability, the 3's might be a new addition 👍
Qod 6 hour race, hoping to set a course record if training has gone to plan?
Keep up the good work Seth 🏃
You're getting more and more clever with the intro sneak peaks. I need to know what shoe you'd buy the Rincon over!
Tucson Wicked Half Marathon tomorrow(11/17). A-goal is 1:38. B-goal is retribution! This is the same exact course I ran on in March that didn't go so well. Leading up to the race I had a niggle in my left arch that turned in to full blown 10/10 PF within the first 2mi. Finished the race but felt pretty disheartened. Good thing it's close to Halloween, so people wont be worried when they see a monster on the course! I'm coming for you silverbell loop!
QD: I found the channel looking for reviews for the Rincon one 👟 haven't miss missed a single episode since 😎 still in my rotation for long run ! have run over 450 miles (776Km) 🏆 and still enjoying them - no major wear out
Create a "Museum of Running Shoes." Their could be a department devoted to each brand. ;-) I have enjoyed your reviews and that of others very, very much. So much I ended becoming a bit of a shoe collector. I now have 13 pairs of shoes with the Reebok Floatride Energy 3 and the Puma Velocity Nitro on the way. This morning I will be running a local 10K in my hometown of Pomona, Ca. My goal, 9:30 pace in my S/E Speeds.
Been here since Turbo 1. I do believe that was one of the first vlogs I watched. Can’t wait for the battle of the Pegasus
QD: raced today in Middelburg, The Netherlands 🇳🇱 5 loops on a city course. 6.75km in total. 3.31 per km finished 6sth overall in a time of 23:40. Shaving 1:22 off my time from 2019 😁 consistand training and a higher volume paidoff today 😊
Shout out to the Beacon v1. Such a great shoe. I got a pair because of your feedback. Also the Rincon 1, and most probably the v3 as I skipped the v2 while I have other brands in rotation. Novablast also another highlight from your channel and FODRunner :)
If not because I can´t find my size for the Rincon 3, I would buy a pair right away.
Got my first pair of Rincons, Rincon 3s, last month. My daily trainers are Cliftons, I was about to retire a pair of Clifton 7s, and wanted something that contrasted with my Clifton 8s. As a fairly recent newcomer to running I am advised that varying shoes is good practice, and it seems to work for Seth. Whatever, I am impressed with the Rincons and the price. They have a similar feel to the Carbon X2s I'm doing my event running and long runs in. I'll be checking on their durability. They are £115 in the UK. That's cheap for a pair of Hoka anythings, but it's a lot for a little old pensioner.
No races scheduled for me until late May 2022. It is now spring marathon base building time, but I won’t say there won’t be any racing until then. I am still trying to find a half marathon tube up in March/April and may pop into a 5k for fun!
Letsss gooo from the UK 🇬🇧
You beat me to the first comment 😂
Can't say that I've saved that many shoes but I still have the shoe box to my 5 1/2 size B New Balance 420's from 1982!
QD: Amsterdam half marathon, I'm going to try 01:35:00. This is my first race where I have a goal besides just attending. I'm a bit nervous but also very excited and looking forward to it!
I actually got a lot of miles out of my Rincon 2s last winter. For what ever reason the Rincon 3 didn't wow me on foot compared the Mach 4 which I've lived in all summer. I find it interesting with Hokas 3 everyday trainers you got the Rincon and Mach at lighter weight than the Clifton and at the same or cheaper price. Not sure where they have the Clifton going in the future to differentiate itself.
QD: no race for me this weekend. Running a Marathon out in Western PA on NYC Weekend. Hopefully in 2023 I can run my home the big apple!
I love the Mach 4 and the Carbon X2. Will have to try the Rincon 3 for the full trifecta. Ha!
In Atlantic City, marathon tomorrow.
I loved the OG Rincon A LOT (after a “meh” initial phase though). Squeezed out 200 miles before they went lifeless almost overnight. Midsole wear&tear wasn’t too bad, but I guess it gave up because of my heavy 🍑 in the end. So durability is definitely an issue in the Rincon lineup, but I like to think about it as a feature, not a bug, justifying buying new shoes 😂
QD: I’m racing my second half marathon on Sunday in western Maryland. I’m hoping to go sub 1hr 21 mins. I ran 1:24.45 in my first half earlier this year but my training has been a lot better this time around and I’m racing a flatter course.
QD: I will be racing Paris Marathon tomorrow Sunday ! Will be my first at 44 yo, and it is the 44th Edition. I prepared myself to do it in 3h30 with eyes up, pumped arms and quick feet ;) Love LOGO #4 with 2 legs only... but I said this on Strava already. Look forward to the next marathon (Biarritz, France June 5th), with the new logo on my singlet ! Onward and Upward !
Nice Review on the Rincón shoes, I would like to see a comparison between Rincón 3 and the Clifton 8.
QD: Sadly there is still no racing yet here in Victoria, Australia, although it will happen soon, just not yet. Having said that we got Flotrack so we can watch the marathon majors which is something at least. I would like to comment on the Rincon series. I tried on the original version in 2019 and found them to be too narrow for my feet across the toe box. I understand that the 2 & 3 are a bit wider, but COVID has limited my ability to try them on because we in regional Victoria have been unable, at times, to visit the capital and our local Hoka stockist won't stock them because of their low longevity (yes Iasked and that's what they said). I ran in my first pair of Saucony Endorphin Speed yesterday, and hit 800km (500mi). They are now wearing through the outer sole in places and the mid sole is breaking down but they are still wearable for short easy and recovery runs. I have never had a more durable shoe in my running career, dating back to the 1980s. Durability is the biggest challenge with the Rincon, I'm not sure it's worth it.
Not often I disagree with you Seth but I would not recommend the Rincon series over the Cliftons. With the Rincon 1 and 2 which I owned both the fit from the lacing was sub par and the foam dies quickly. I have several Clifton models which fit perfectly and are capable of 350 plus miles. You would have to buy 2-3 pairs of Rincons to get the same amount of mileage from one Clifton. Until they prove that the new foam holds up and the lock down from the bad lacing is improved I will stay away from the Rincon.
I have both and equally like them. I think Rincon are better all round. Lighter, similar cushion on Rincon and a bit more comfort on clifton. If I could only have 1 ++probably Clifton for long term.
Agree. Got 330 in my Clifton 6. 140 in Rincon 1. For a fast ,shorter distance shoe I switched to Saucony Kinvara 11
Survivalrun in Neede 14km, but i guess nobody here knows this sport i guess :') . Kind of similar to OCR but with a greater emphasis on the obstacles which are more technically challenging.
Have to say Rincon is definitely a must shoe in rotation. Don't use it too often so it lasts! Maybe once every 7 days.
I am a big hoka fan,I think if they put a tpu plate into Rincon, it will take you to next level.
The durability issues with the Rincon 1 turned me off of that shoe, maybe I’ll have to pick up the version 3 to see how much improvement there has been. Like you, I still have my version 1s laying around somewhere for comparison.
Yeah, this was bad. The midsole of my Rincon 1 was dead after 100 miles. Nothing left... The outsole was fine, but the feel was totally gone.
have 2 rincon 1s myself... already retired, got the rincon3...
I had a similar exp with Rincon 2. Midsole felt so flat around 130-140 miles in.
Agreed. It is a nice training shoe to start but it just doesn’t last. There are so many better options at and around that price range.
Fortunately for Hoka, some folks who experienced this midsole durability durability issue still gave them a second chance with other models. I was like "nope" and didn't come back - there are other strong candidates in the fast-day category, and I wasn't partial to Hoka. I kept my flattened Rincon 2 as a casual wear, and it's a nice conversation starter.
QOD: Tomorrow morning I am running a half marathon in Guangzhou, which is also my tune up race for the upcoming marathon in November in Shanghai. I hope to run it in 1h40ish . This race unfortunately is not an official one, is a charity run to raise money for homeless people. Let's go guys, wish you all a great run this weekend!
Wonderful Tommaso! Thanks for the update
Rumor says Nike will release full length zoomx shoes with a lower stack height, possibly a replacement for the turbos.
Seth when is the start time of the Detroit Half and is there a live stream so that I can watch?
Hey Seth, you don’t need to explain why you save the your shoes 😊. But I can tell you this - I like you comments and opinions on new version of the shoes and don’t care much about older version when watching videos. I will take your word for it n no need to see the shoe in your hand.
After 100 miles I started to feel like these shoes were dying. I'm heavier than the average runner, but for me the midsole just went so fast in the Rincon over other shoes.
The new Salomon carbon shoe has interesting carbon design. Could help all carbon shoes become a little lighter.
The lifespan of the Rincon 1's foam rivals that of the bananafly...
Loving the rincon 3 at the moment. Would love to see hoka do a nylon plated version, similar to what the have done with the carbon verson of the bondi and made the bondi X.
Would love to see a Clifton X
So does a plate in these shoes affect the Neutral/stability aspect of the shoe?
@@DaveIrish66 yes and no. It depends on the type amd style they use. The saucony speed still has some torsional aspects to it. Sketchers use a H plate configuration in the fore foot only. Adidas do a stringer/rod style similarly found in sufing/bodyboard construction with their foams. In bodyboards if the foam has to many deep creases the foam looses projection/snap and the board feels dead, like in running shoes, So the stringer help keep recoil.
See the rocket X mate. I have Rincon 2 and rocket X... Definitely don't need plate in Rincon imo. Rincon is a daily light that can be used for easy to tempo to up to 1/2 marathon. Plate will increase price as well.
Rocket X is the way to go if you want plate. Love that shoe as well 👟
@@Bodhished totally get your point, but what if you don't want carbon and you find it too stiff and agressive. There is a missed market there that Hoka could tap into. I didn't like the rincon 1 or 2 as much as I loved the rincon 3. The fit is way better, foam way softer. The price of the rincon with a nylon plate would put it the same price as the saucony endorphin speed 2. Quick question does the rocket x fit like the the rincon 1 and 2 cause they where to narrow. Cheers mate
I find the upper slightly more snug mid foot on the 3 than the 2.
I have big feet.
Eternity? I guess Seth plans on being immortal
Rincon 1 was my first of your videos Seth. Been watch everyday since! I miss the early days of being able to binge watch hours and hours of your past videos to try to catch up. It took me a while to realize this was a daily vlog and catching up was nearly impossible! Keep up the great work!!
QD: Marathon Brugge tomorrow. Hopefully sub 3:15
You got this!!
QUESTION: how do you feel about shoe companies who dare to achieve. By this i mean, small evolutions of a shoe v big change. Example.. Pegasus.. steady evolution.. New balance rebel v1 (great shoe) would have been easy to tweak… however v2.. huge change (I loved/love the V1) .. but the v2 is awesome. I respect NB more for daring to do, but appreciate Nike knows it’s market
Its a great question. Worthy of a vlog alone. Stay tuned!
@@SethJamesDeMoor be honoured if ya did that! Thank you 🙏.. superb channel - keep up the good work
QoD: ran Denver colfax full today (my first marathon), made it in 3:59:41 beating my goal by 19 seconds,
congrats!💪
250-300 miles?! No way, these were dead at around 200 miles maybe even less. I’ve had two pairs of the first version because I loved the shoe and can’t complain for $115.
At Rincon’s value proposition though, a similarly performing pair of shoes lasting 300 mi would be worth over $170. Mine did the same thing around 140 mi, so it was even worse.
Rincon is the best shoe I’ve ever had for comfortable but fast 1/2 marathons but the durability is horrible! Rincon 1 only lasted 140 miles. Really curious about version 3 but worried the midsole will die early.
Can you do something like this for the Mach lineup? Or even the clifton.
Yes 👍🏻
Thanks seth.
i have got a pair of rincon 1 they have about 850k. After 50-100k the outsole got a bit ripped off but not too bad. The upper still looks very good! In the heel there is sign of wearing. I should post a foto. The midsole is not as it was, but they did just surprise me.
bereits nach 50-100k?😱 gruss aus berlin
@@michaelr.8402 Ja, aber es sah schlimmer aus, als es war. Jetzt ist zt immer noch etwas Profil vorhanden.
@@schlossstadtlauferin8431 Danke für die Antwort. Denke eher an die Haltbarkeit der Mittelsohle/foam beim Rincon. Laufe unterschiedliche Marken..., bzgl. foam überzeugt mich HOKA bisher nicht.
Maybe you could compromise? For instance set a limit like after 3 or 4 versions or 3-4 years , then donate ? Aware you partially are a professional shoe reviewer but you could donate after a few versions. Also doesn’t the foam get stiff to some extent with age so cannot totally make accurate comparisons on feel with several years old shoe to newest version ?
I like too see Rincon 4 whith carbon plate
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Q: I tend to take penny pinching to the next level. You had me thinking the other day when you calculated the price per year for your favorite shirt(s) at a higher price point. Wondering if you have a video or considered a breakdown list on your best value training shoe? ie: most mileage shoe for the lowest price? I tend to keep my pricey shoes for race day (or minimal use for training). What would be your list for the (1)Best Training shoe(s) w/ the (2)Most Mileage for (3)The Lowest Cost? 🤔
I’m not Seth but the nova blast 1s on sale might be your best bet they last forever
For some time now I am looking to buy the rincon 1. Anyone know where I can put my hands on hoka rincon 1? I am based in EU
Found the channel at Nike Vaporfly 4%
Long timer!!!
I’m a mature runner and find that the weight of any running shoes is not really as important as overall fit. I have been running in the Rincon Three and Pegasus 37. For me the Hoka is head and shoulders superior to the Nike including stability.
If you wear a yellow cap, the resemblance is uncanny with Valentino Rossi lol
Not sure who he is but
Just purchased Rincon 2s at a discount. These are my first Hoka’s after a couple of ASICS. Not been out in them yet, but looking forward to it
Keep us posted on the ride
Simsee Halfmarathon in Bavaria Germany🇩🇪🇳🇴🏃🏻♂️🏔Just for fun👍
I think the poor durability makes this an expensive shoe. They definitely need to improve this. I've had 2 pairs of rincon 2 and the midsole was flat and useless at the midfoot strike area after 200km. I'm 85kg so maybe works better for a slightly lighter run but I don't get this problem in any other shoe
I've been with you before the baby blues where conceived.
I got 550 miles out of my Rincon 1 without any issues at all. Granted that pair was mostly treadmill, but also a fair amount on Kansas country roads. Honestly, I will probably keep them in rotation just to get them to 600 miles. No tears or anything, but the foam has definitely lost its spunk. Replacing them with some Rincon 2's I got for very cheap. I will get the 3 for sure.
I’ll be honest, I gave up on the Rincon 2 at 100 miles. Gave them away. They were no longer fun shoes to run in.
Hoka really has to refresh their product lines. They've lost the maximalist niche and they lack a high performance foam. The Mach 4 is a good shoe but that's about the only popular shoe they have on the roads.
Summary of Rincon shoes for me= Too narrow, causes blisters, dies at 150 miles
Pegasi 😂😂😂
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