How can you say it was "partially" the pedestrians fault for not stepping out of the way. You are suppose to yield to pedestrians, especially on sidewalks. They cannot react fast enough with a bike traveling at them in the dark going 12-15 mph with a bright light shining in their eyes. This is why a lot of places don't allow bicycles to be ridden on sidewalks. In my city, so many people are being hit by e-bikes on the sidewalk, someone even died. You need to ride more safer man.
And I have changed how I ride, I am more carefull. But also keep in mind there where many things that caused this accident to happen. Some not in my controll. Biggest one being it was very dark. It was an accident. He's OK, I'm OK, and we both learned from it. I don't ride on the sidewalks alot, just when I come up to an intersection. I see alot of ebikers here that only ride on the sidewalks because it's safer, there are no bike lanes, and motorist don't care about bikes of any kind. I don't ride on the sidewalk very often, I try to avoid that but sometimes it's safer. So it's different in every city. But I am more aware now when I ride, and I will do what I feel is safe for me. And I will still get up on the sidewalk out of the road at an intersection. Once I cross the street I'm back on the road again and taking my chances, traffic laws here are merely a suggestion, there is no respect of any kind. Drivers don't care about you. So sometimes it's safer to be on the sidewalk. I never have any issues during the daytime, darkness changes everything and I am much more carefull when it's dark now. Live and learn.
Just adding some context to the conversation.... Must a bicyclist ride on the sidewalk? Is it legal? What about crosswalks? State law does not require bicyclists to ride on the sidewalk. State law also does not prohibit sidewalk riding, but does offer a provision to allow it to be regulated locally through ordinance and posted signs. MCL 257.660c states (Michigan Compiled Laws): (1) An individual operating a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and shall give an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian. (2) An individual shall not operate a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk if that operation is prohibited by an official traffic control device. (3) An individual lawfully operating a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk has all of the rights and responsibilities applicable to a pedestrian using that sidewalk or crosswalk.
I had a crash on my X-Class last year riding home from work at night. Instead of waiting to cross I decided to turn right and go up a ways to another intersection I could use to get back to my normal route. I was on the sidewalk almost to the next intersection I was going to turn. I got to a spot where some cables to a power poll came down and they had the sidewalk make a sudden move to get around it. I didn't see that until I was close tried to maneuver around and caught my right handlebar throwing me off the bike. Luckily felt like barely anything happened to me. My left side mirror was broken off and scratches to the break lever. The right crank arm and pedal was bent, some paint damage near the rear light. Had to go throttle only to get home. It made me realize I had my headlight pointing too far down.
I hit someone before on a regular bike (not ebike) and nearly hit like 3 other people. All of these were at night/early morning and they were all blending in. This was back when I never really road with lights and relied on street lamps. Even then, sometimes people just blend in. I stopped riding on sidewalks when it's dark because of that lol
He had to of seen your headlights? Another reason I get on the sidewalk at intersections is because if you're the only one there the light will never change , because the bike will never trip the sensors and you're stuck there. Glad you're ok.
Hey buddy sorry to hear about your accident I’m glad your doing ok and I hope the other guy is doing ok cause I know getting hit by your bike had to hurt. But I’m sure he’ll be ok in a few days. I’m sure he’s sore also. I hope you wear gloves also besides a helmet. I’ve been riding for a very long time and I never ride without my gloves I can’t ride without them because I’ve been wear gloves my whole life riding and the rest of my riding gear. I live in Clinton Twp.. Michigan. I don’t know where you live in Michigan but some of your other videos show the Gratiot cruse. I didn’t go this year but I will next year. Please ride safe and be careful.
I tried to go around him but he stepped right in front of me. I'm not blaming him for anything and I'm sorry for hitting him. I think we both learned from this. He's OK I saw him the next day and he was wearing lighter colored clothes and he stepped to the side and we let each other pass. And the bike is repaired. So life goes on and I'll always have this incident on my mind when riding in the dark.
Wow, so sorry to hear that. I hope you heal up quickly. Another example of why I don't like to ride out on the street with cars unless it's in a subdivision. I do hope that you heal up and can get back on a bike at some point. I'm sure that you did enjoy riding as I do.
@@woodtickgreg6926 thank you. I'll never ride one again :( traumatized. Don't even like being in a car. I don't have medical insurance and lady who hit Me only has 10k coverage. I can't work due to injuries. But yet I don't have a primary care doctor so can't even file for disability or anything. Trying to get help from state but they said I made to much money this year doing uber so I have to wait till next year to try and apply. At my wits end with all this unfortunately. Our health care system and finances are a complete joke when it comes to helping people out who were hurt bye others :(
Yeah it used to be East Detroit, lol. But the city council decided to try and separate the city from Detroit, stupid. It's still right next door, lol. I get down river once in a while in a semi for work.
Yeah visibility is a big thing. I make the point of never riding the bike without putting on all lights - front and back. That might seem an overkill for a sunny summer's day but it's about me being seen. If a guy in a car is coming out of a side street with the sun in his eyes he might not see you. I have seen plenty of that in the past. Also that big box in the back might give some advantage if the bike falls over on it's side as it could prevent it scraping the paintwork on the frame. A while back I had a new bike roll off down a slope and tumble down concrete steps. The side of it was ruined. Manufacturers should put a catch bracket near the brake lever to stop this happening. I never dreamed of such a thing until the disaster happened to me. So I use a velcro strap to act as a catch for the brake lever for a case like this.
It's possible, maybe like a moped license, dunno. Would be kind of a shame if that happened though because it would force all the ebikes out onto the road where the motorist don't want us, that would be unsafe for all.
@@woodtickgreg6926…. E-bikes can go 40-50mph these days. They belong on the street with motorcycles. I ride a motorcycle and I would never ever expect acceptance to drive on the sidewalk even at 15mph. If you’re too afraid to ride in the street. Quit riding it. Stay on your motorcycle. It’s not fair to sidewalk pedestrians
@WilliamWBG ebikes that can go 40 to 50 mph are electric motorcycles, not ebikes. My ebike doesn't go anywhere near that fast. And most every ebike rider here rides on the sidewalks because it's safer. There are no bike lanes here and we are to slow to ride in traffic. Ebikes have become extremely popular here and everyone rides on the sidewalk, it's the norm here. Most riders including myself slow down and pedal on the sidewalks and are not riding the bikes at high speeds. It's not a matter of being afraid to ride in the street. I ride motorcycles too. But the drivers here are not tolerant of slow ebikes in the street.
I have 2 Ariel Rider bikes (Kepler & X-Class) along with 3 others. Haven't crashed yet, but I HAVE had quite a few close calls, all involving cars. We're talking INCHES. You can never let your guard down. Especially since a lot of the time, other people DO.
you need to get comfortable riding in traffic I do I will not get on a sidewalk illegal in Missouri but to many folks stay on the road where you belong. sometimes you got to take the lane specially at lights get in line like everybody else I do daily.
I hear what your saying brother. But bikes are just not accepted here in traffic, motorist here do not care. It's not worth dying over. Side roads I will ride in. Here most ebikers ride the sidewalks, it's just safer. I'm comfortable riding in traffic, I ride motorcycles in traffic. But it's just different here for ebikers. As more and more people start riding them it may change, hopefully. But right now you just can't ride in traffic, motorist road rage and don't really care about you. Here it's legal to be on the sidewalks, so I just ride a little slower when I have to be on a sidewalk. Most of my commute is on a 30 mph residential road that is wide enough to share with the motorist. Other roads here are not like that.
You sir are very lucky that man did not sue you. He could have gone to the hospital and sued you for medical bills pain and suffering. I’m not exaggerating when I tell you that you are extremely lucky he only called you an asshole. You need to make sure you have insurance to cover situations like this on your e-bike. Many states are requiring the same laws for e-bikes as full blown motorcycles. If someone crashed into you and hurt you, you would expect them to pay for all damages and future potential losses and pain and suffering.
Well neither one of us was seriously injured. It was just an accident. Ebikers here are not required to have insurance. Give me a break and quit preaching, it was a minor incident and everyone is OK. I still see him walking and he sees me. It was just a bunch of circumstances that all came together at the right time to cause the incident. I posted this video so that it would make people think about it and maybe it wouldn't happen to them. Not point fingers at anyone or blame anyone. Have you never been in an accident? No one was seriously hurt thankfully. No need for anyone to be sued, get real. He went on his way and went to work and so did I.
You were lucky that the the guy was unhurt and require treatment. The speed you were traveling at was way to fast for conditions. In the dark slow down when riding on the sidewalk. Consider yourself lucky the next time you may not be
More negative comments....did you even bother to read the rest of the comments before stating the same things over and over again? Obviously not. Have you never had an accident? You should not be so quick to pass judgment on someone especially since you did not see the circumstances. I've never even come close to something like this previously or since then.
Really? To quote AVE, "With great stupidity, comes very little responsibility" It's stupid and irresponsible to be wearing dark clothing at night near cars, or bikes!
I wasn't blaming him! I just said because he was wearing dark clothes it contributed to me not seeing him. Wait until it happens to you and then you'll understand.
How can you say it was "partially" the pedestrians fault for not stepping out of the way. You are suppose to yield to pedestrians, especially on sidewalks. They cannot react fast enough with a bike traveling at them in the dark going 12-15 mph with a bright light shining in their eyes. This is why a lot of places don't allow bicycles to be ridden on sidewalks. In my city, so many people are being hit by e-bikes on the sidewalk, someone even died. You need to ride more safer man.
And I have changed how I ride, I am more carefull. But also keep in mind there where many things that caused this accident to happen. Some not in my controll. Biggest one being it was very dark. It was an accident. He's OK, I'm OK, and we both learned from it. I don't ride on the sidewalks alot, just when I come up to an intersection. I see alot of ebikers here that only ride on the sidewalks because it's safer, there are no bike lanes, and motorist don't care about bikes of any kind. I don't ride on the sidewalk very often, I try to avoid that but sometimes it's safer. So it's different in every city. But I am more aware now when I ride, and I will do what I feel is safe for me. And I will still get up on the sidewalk out of the road at an intersection. Once I cross the street I'm back on the road again and taking my chances, traffic laws here are merely a suggestion, there is no respect of any kind. Drivers don't care about you. So sometimes it's safer to be on the sidewalk. I never have any issues during the daytime, darkness changes everything and I am much more carefull when it's dark now. Live and learn.
Just adding some context to the conversation....
Must a bicyclist ride on the sidewalk? Is it legal? What about crosswalks?
State law does not require bicyclists to ride on the sidewalk. State law also does not prohibit sidewalk riding, but does offer a provision to allow it to be regulated locally through ordinance and posted signs. MCL 257.660c states (Michigan Compiled Laws):
(1) An individual operating a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrians and shall give an audible signal before overtaking and passing a pedestrian.
(2) An individual shall not operate a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk if that operation is prohibited by an official traffic control device.
(3) An individual lawfully operating a bicycle upon a sidewalk or a pedestrian crosswalk has all of the rights and responsibilities applicable to a pedestrian using that sidewalk or crosswalk.
I wish they had folding bar end mirrors that will fold in.. That would be good if the bike falls.
Greg, love your informative how to’s on the x52. We’re about the same age, no one told me crashing takes so long to heal and hurt so much at our age 😂
Thank you for the comments, much appreciated. I try to share what I have learned with others.
I had a crash on my X-Class last year riding home from work at night. Instead of waiting to cross I decided to turn right and go up a ways to another intersection I could use to get back to my normal route. I was on the sidewalk almost to the next intersection I was going to turn. I got to a spot where some cables to a power poll came down and they had the sidewalk make a sudden move to get around it. I didn't see that until I was close tried to maneuver around and caught my right handlebar throwing me off the bike. Luckily felt like barely anything happened to me.
My left side mirror was broken off and scratches to the break lever. The right crank arm and pedal was bent, some paint damage near the rear light. Had to go throttle only to get home. It made me realize I had my headlight pointing too far down.
Makes me wonder if he was texting and not looking.. And what was he doing out? Lol.. Good all is ok now after. 👍
I hit someone before on a regular bike (not ebike) and nearly hit like 3 other people. All of these were at night/early morning and they were all blending in. This was back when I never really road with lights and relied on street lamps. Even then, sometimes people just blend in. I stopped riding on sidewalks when it's dark because of that lol
He had to of seen your headlights? Another reason I get on the sidewalk at intersections is because if you're the only one there the light will never change , because the bike will never trip the sensors and you're stuck there. Glad you're ok.
Hey buddy sorry to hear about your accident I’m glad your doing ok and I hope the other guy is doing ok cause I know getting hit by your bike had to hurt. But I’m sure he’ll be ok in a few days. I’m sure he’s sore also. I hope you wear gloves also besides a helmet. I’ve been riding for a very long time and I never ride without my gloves I can’t ride without them because I’ve been wear gloves my whole life riding and the rest of my riding gear. I live in Clinton Twp.. Michigan. I don’t know where you live in Michigan but some of your other videos show the Gratiot cruse. I didn’t go this year but I will next year. Please ride safe and be careful.
I'm in Eastpointe my brother. Yup I always wear a helmet and gloves. I hope to see you out there one day!
I have a X class , I’m coming to Michigan next week for a high school baseball coaching job. Let’s do a meet up next year. Donnie
I would love to do that!
Ouch he was nasty sorry it happened be careful he could have seen you your bright lights people not want to yield to any thing .
I tried to go around him but he stepped right in front of me. I'm not blaming him for anything and I'm sorry for hitting him. I think we both learned from this. He's OK I saw him the next day and he was wearing lighter colored clothes and he stepped to the side and we let each other pass. And the bike is repaired. So life goes on and I'll always have this incident on my mind when riding in the dark.
My ebike days are over .. truck pulled out in front of me I was going 23mph .. 4 facial fractures fractured c2 .. I'm hurt for life. :(
Wow, so sorry to hear that. I hope you heal up quickly. Another example of why I don't like to ride out on the street with cars unless it's in a subdivision. I do hope that you heal up and can get back on a bike at some point. I'm sure that you did enjoy riding as I do.
@@woodtickgreg6926 thank you. I'll never ride one again :( traumatized. Don't even like being in a car. I don't have medical insurance and lady who hit Me only has 10k coverage. I can't work due to injuries. But yet I don't have a primary care doctor so can't even file for disability or anything. Trying to get help from state but they said I made to much money this year doing uber so I have to wait till next year to try and apply. At my wits end with all this unfortunately. Our health care system and finances are a complete joke when it comes to helping people out who were hurt bye others :(
She may only have 10k insurance coverage but you can sue her personally. Why did you not hire a lawyer?
Oh your in Michigan? Anywhere near Downriver? I hate our roads here for bike riding. No bike lanes here either 😭
No I'm quite a bit north of you. Eastpointe Michigan.
@@woodtickgreg6926 that's not so far. I bought my dog in Eastpointe .. Or it was that area but they changed the name since.
Yeah it used to be East Detroit, lol. But the city council decided to try and separate the city from Detroit, stupid. It's still right next door, lol. I get down river once in a while in a semi for work.
@@woodtickgreg6926 I'm not far from 94 and I-75 in Taylor.. Yeah I think in early 90's is last time I went up to your area.
what is the name of that trunk ?
It's a Givi brand. I purchased it from Amazon.
Yeah visibility is a big thing. I make the point of never riding the bike without putting on all lights - front and back. That might seem an overkill for a sunny summer's day but it's about me being seen. If a guy in a car is coming out of a side street with the sun in his eyes he might not see you. I have seen plenty of that in the past. Also that big box in the back might give some advantage if the bike falls over on it's side as it could prevent it scraping the paintwork on the frame. A while back I had a new bike roll off down a slope and tumble down concrete steps. The side of it was ruined. Manufacturers should put a catch bracket near the brake lever to stop this happening. I never dreamed of such a thing until the disaster happened to me. So I use a velcro strap to act as a catch for the brake lever for a case like this.
these are going to be like Drones.....they will require a License for these every 3 yrs
It's possible, maybe like a moped license, dunno. Would be kind of a shame if that happened though because it would force all the ebikes out onto the road where the motorist don't want us, that would be unsafe for all.
@@woodtickgreg6926…. E-bikes can go 40-50mph these days. They belong on the street with motorcycles. I ride a motorcycle and I would never ever expect acceptance to drive on the sidewalk even at 15mph.
If you’re too afraid to ride in the street. Quit riding it. Stay on your motorcycle. It’s not fair to sidewalk pedestrians
@WilliamWBG ebikes that can go 40 to 50 mph are electric motorcycles, not ebikes. My ebike doesn't go anywhere near that fast. And most every ebike rider here rides on the sidewalks because it's safer. There are no bike lanes here and we are to slow to ride in traffic. Ebikes have become extremely popular here and everyone rides on the sidewalk, it's the norm here. Most riders including myself slow down and pedal on the sidewalks and are not riding the bikes at high speeds. It's not a matter of being afraid to ride in the street. I ride motorcycles too. But the drivers here are not tolerant of slow ebikes in the street.
I have 2 Ariel Rider bikes (Kepler & X-Class) along with 3 others. Haven't crashed yet, but I HAVE had quite a few close calls, all involving cars. We're talking INCHES. You can never let your guard down. Especially since a lot of the time, other people DO.
Which would you reccomend, X class or kepler?
you need to get comfortable riding in traffic I do I will not get on a sidewalk illegal in Missouri but to many folks stay on the road where you belong. sometimes you got to take the lane specially at lights get in line like everybody else I do daily.
I hear what your saying brother. But bikes are just not accepted here in traffic, motorist here do not care. It's not worth dying over. Side roads I will ride in. Here most ebikers ride the sidewalks, it's just safer. I'm comfortable riding in traffic, I ride motorcycles in traffic. But it's just different here for ebikers. As more and more people start riding them it may change, hopefully. But right now you just can't ride in traffic, motorist road rage and don't really care about you. Here it's legal to be on the sidewalks, so I just ride a little slower when I have to be on a sidewalk. Most of my commute is on a 30 mph residential road that is wide enough to share with the motorist. Other roads here are not like that.
I have crashed many times and I am 65 year's old.
Hi Greg, I was wondering if you could help me put a chain on my X classic I could pay you for your time
Where do you live?
Clinton Township
Sure not a problem. When do you want to do it? And have you purchased the new chain?
I ordered it today it’s supposed to come Thursday. The weekend would be good
Cool I work a half day on Saturday so maybe we can do it in the afternoon. What happened to your chain?
You sir are very lucky that man did not sue you. He could have gone to the hospital and sued you for medical bills pain and suffering.
I’m not exaggerating when I tell you that you are extremely lucky he only called you an asshole.
You need to make sure you have insurance to cover situations like this on your e-bike.
Many states are requiring the same laws for e-bikes as full blown motorcycles.
If someone crashed into you and hurt you, you would expect them to pay for all damages and future potential losses and pain and suffering.
Well neither one of us was seriously injured. It was just an accident. Ebikers here are not required to have insurance. Give me a break and quit preaching, it was a minor incident and everyone is OK. I still see him walking and he sees me. It was just a bunch of circumstances that all came together at the right time to cause the incident. I posted this video so that it would make people think about it and maybe it wouldn't happen to them. Not point fingers at anyone or blame anyone. Have you never been in an accident? No one was seriously hurt thankfully. No need for anyone to be sued, get real. He went on his way and went to work and so did I.
You were lucky that the the guy was unhurt and require treatment. The speed you were traveling at was way to fast for conditions. In the dark slow down when riding on the sidewalk. Consider yourself lucky the next time you may not be
More negative comments....did you even bother to read the rest of the comments before stating the same things over and over again? Obviously not. Have you never had an accident? You should not be so quick to pass judgment on someone especially since you did not see the circumstances. I've never even come close to something like this previously or since then.
I don't get that! Blaming someone he is wearing dark clothes on sidewalks. Is YOUR FAULT.
Really? To quote AVE, "With great stupidity, comes very little responsibility"
It's stupid and irresponsible to be wearing dark clothing at night near cars, or bikes!
@@danmac4132 U R Idiot
I wasn't blaming him! I just said because he was wearing dark clothes it contributed to me not seeing him. Wait until it happens to you and then you'll understand.
@sonnyDee you mean the bike with all the lights on, on it🙄
@@Pepadai you seem nice🙄