How do pilots choose which runway to use?
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Do you know what those letters are in the beginning of every runway? How do pilots choose which runway to use and why?
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Dear colleague, I highly appreciate the mention regarding my video on this topic! Thank you very much! It´s about time we meet ;)
amazing to see you there as well dear Captain Joe :)
Nicely said
Yesssss they will FINALLY MEET! make sure to do a vlog if u get a chance to meet ;)! Cant wait
Absolutely! You guys need to do a video together... you both are amazing and an inspiration for all of us 😀
+Captain Joe Credit where credit is due Joe! Sounds like a great plan.
Some airports have preferred runways due to noise constraints.
An example is London Heathrow with a 5-knot tailwind preference for the 27 runway direction.
Another example is the now-closed Hong Kong International (Kai Tak) with a 5-knot tailwind preference for runway 13 in wet weather and a 10-knot tailwind preference in dry weather due to buildings immediately ahead of runway 31.
Literally sitting here studying for my upcoming Law exam but instead I'm watching this which is SOOOO interesting!! 🤩❤️🤩 Thank you Petter!!!!
Mentour and Captain Joe uploads on the same minute! must be a sign
Recently at very large airports where it is difficult for controllers to see the windsock due to distance the controllers came up with an ingenious idea. Although the idea was stolen it is considered quite reliable on standard day standards. The ideal is a patch of lawn is grown on the tower ledge right outside the Head Controllers sight glass. The Head Troller opens the side sight glass and grabs a handful of grass and proceeds to toss it into the air. Which way the grass is blowing in the wind announces the direction of the headwind.
Thank you Mentour Pilot !!! Please make a detailed video on the actual use of flaps and slats and the meaning of the numbers used to set the flaps like for example: "Flaps to four." ; "Flaps to full." etc.
+Advait Shirbhayye On the way.
Excellent video! I have learned so much about aviation from both Mentour and Captain Joe!
Start and land pref. with a head wind. That's the same with flying model aircrafts and when it's a strong wind, it touches down with almost no ground speed at all. Cool to see, but hard to master.
Good video (again).
Thank you for your explanation on why headwind is usually the preferred approach for landings/takeoffs. You make it easy to understand for the non-pilots out there.
Thank you so much for that explanation. I've always wondered how runways got their numbers. 😊
Me too. I did not think they were random .
2:56 "I recommend you to check out Ment...errr...not Mentour(facepalm)....Captain Joe's excellent video on the subject" 😂😂
That cliché😂
but you gotta appreciate the one-take-approach
Hello Captain, you are my mentor & like Teacher, I fly in to Simulation but I'm a serious flight simmer
I'm following from past few years
And I'm happy say have learn a lot about Aviation, such as aircraft
behaviour, weather, etc...
All thanks to you, also I follow Captain joo as well he also so good.
2:57 "Good morning passengers and very welcome to Men-.. errr... Flight Number..."
Thanks for talking about runway selection, and for the explanation of runway numbering. I use that method of numbering when constructing runways in Minecraft, by the way. Keep up the great works! :)
Another brilliant, simple video explaining things for us mere mortals that don't know about this stuff. Brilliant. Look forward to the next upload!
When I was flying light twins from the Channel Islands to Bournemouth(Hurn Airport) England many years ago we were routinely ordered to land on Runway 35 and not Runway 26 even though the wind was from the West ! I questioned this several times and was told the Dart Heralds and Larger Aircraft had priority on Runway 26 ! I thought it was expediency for ATC and we were told to do as we were told ! Also it meant we didn't have to be positioned by ATC due Magnetic Track from Channel Islands.
Yeah... I remember pulling out my Jeppesen and spinning the crosswind components...
Now for fun, have a look at the polar regions where True heading is used fro runways because the mag headings change too much!
Yes. I've watched the Captain Joe video on Runway numbering
I just thought of something - you're giving away all our secrets. How are we supposed to maintain the fiction that we're so special? Just kidding, of course. As usual, a great presentation which I enjoyed.
How to choose runway to use to land:
So we have la Guardia, Teterboro (or something like that) and the Hudson, but which one should we use?
(I know that mentioned airports have multiple runways)
Great class, you should become an instructor at some point in your career. It made total sense to me. Thank you.
I'm pretty sure he IS a simulator instructor etc.
Paulo Gaeta he is, TRE/TRI
Petter is already a line captain in airplanes and simulator. He even tests cadets for type ratings.
Awesome Captain Petter! You should collab with Captain F/O Joe
Thanks. I like your videos so much and decided to become a private pilot so now I am doing some reasrch.
Great channel. Please more on navigation and programming routes. Ta.
I loved that video! It was so detailed and easy to understand. Thank you very much!
I suppose this suggestion is not really possible, but here goes... How about a fan ride where you get about 100 of your fans to commit to a short flight where you allow them to walk around the aircraft with you, show them the cockpit, and "behind the scenes" areas inside the aircraft like the crew quarters, then go an a short flight circling the airport where you talk about all the things you are doing while in flight. It shouldn't cost any more per person than any other short flight, or maybe a little more...
Hell, just tell everyone to book some random flight 6 months in the future.
I used to work at a place that was right next to the end of one of the runways of Cleveland Hopkins airport. I remember seeing all the planes lined up waiting to take off and sometimes they would all turn around and taxi to the opposite end. now I know why. head wind
By chance was it the 100th Bomb Group? I've spent many an hour there.
Always wondered about the runway numbers so having them explained, finally knowing it’s about degrees is great and makes perfect sense.
Do you have any thoughts about airports with mostly parallel runways versus airports with many cross runways? In Chicago, for example, they’ve been going through a huge, expensive expansion and reconfiguration of runways, adding new, longer parallel runways, and eliminating all runways that cross other runways - for safety reasons. Getting rid of cross runways appears to be a big safety issue in the US and a lot of airports are doing it. But I have to wonder if eliminating these runways means there will be more crosswinds to deal with?
Thanks for another great video! I was wondering, why do both the Captain and the First Officer push and appear to hold the throttle levers on take off?
I've always wondered - if you are taking off into an intermittent headwind (almost no wind is constantly blowing at a consistent speed), how is it safe to trust the rotation indicator? What if you reach 140 knots or whatever the rotation speed is for a 737, and just as you begin to rotate, the wind dies completely? Aren't you afraid of a stall? Or does the rotation indicator provide a margin for wind fluctuation?
You love speaking but you can tell your purpose simply and short
Most of the time the controllers get together the night before and have their palms read and/or chart the alignment of the stars in the sky. After a long discussion at daybreak (after that morning's mixed drinks) they determine what runway to use by picking numbers written on paper out of a hat.
Hello from Indonesia. Thank you for the information from you and Captain Joe. Im still Junior High School but i want to be a pilot. So i got your videos and i really like the details of the your explanation. :)
Man you understand this stuff for real 😂
Great Video :) Perfect Info for flying
Well that explains a lot. I had always wondered why they had numbers on the runway and now I know.
Phenomenal explanation
Chuck Norris has landed on runway 37
How do pilot/crew member deal with rude or unsettled passenger?
Amir sincara would depend on the severity of the rudeness and disruption resulting from it
There are handcuffs onboard in case you wanted to know ;p
They tell them the plane is overbooked and drag them off,
do a Utube search for 'united airlines'
/s
1) the flight attendant will politely ask you to behave
2) the senior flight attendant will ORDER you to behave
3) the Captain will divert to the nearest suitable airport where the Federal Police will be waiting
4) the Captain may come to the rear and ORDER you to behave using his authority as Captain of the vessel under the laws of the sea
When the doors are closed, He (or She) is Al-Qadi.
5) the Captain and flight attendant will put you in handcuffs and lock you in the lavatory
6) your name will be added to the 'no fly list' with all the other suicide bombers
7) the Police will drag you off and throw you in jail for 'rebellion against the legitimate ruler' (the Captain) and demand a Diya for each and every passenger and crew who you endangered.
Of course it's easy DRAG THEM OFF!
How about parallel runways? Which runway do pilots and ATC choose to land the plane on?
The one with headwind facing usùally.
This means that if the headwind is 150knots, hypothetically of course, a plane could land like a helicopter with full flaps. And take off like a helicopter if the headwind is more than rotate speed.
That has happened, pilots training on tiger moths early WWII caught airborne as wind speeds increased had to have airmen out on the field grab hold of the wings as they landed vertically at above normal landing air speed so as not be going backwards when they touchdown.
As silly as it may sound, it's not just hypothetically possible, I myself have had times when I've had to come in on final with a much higher air speed than normal and a lower flap setting and still had a laughably low ground speed on touchdown.
With gliders, you can (relatively) easily stay stationary in the air or even fly backwards slowly (relative to the ground) in moderately high winds. I've done that myself.
I haven't heard or seen somebody use this for takeoff or landing, I think this is due to the fact that, close to the ground, you have a "boundary layer" where windspeed is reduced compared to at altitude and that you tend to have mechanical turbulence, i.e. turbulence caused by air passing over obstacles such as trees, etc.. In these conditions you want to have some additional speed close to the ground to ensure the aircraft keeps flying and controlable in case the turbulence momentarily reduces the airspeed.
So even for aircraft with stall speeds of maybe 60km/h this is hardly practical, and I don't think anyone would ever want to try this in weather conditions that cause wind speeds of 150kts ;)
Love your videos. Very inspiring and informative. Thank you very much for these.
Of course we gonna love this one ;)
+PENAIRWAYS 😂😂😂
Question Mentor : if you have 20 knots headwind for landing and can perform a safer, shorter stop - over time will that correlate to less wear and tear on the aircraft as well?
great explanation, can you pls tell us the difference between the fixed landing light and retractable landing lights?
The fixed landing lights are in the wingroot, they can only be turned on and off and they do not create extra drag.
The retractable landing lights are located in the lower fuselage centerline, they can be retracted, extended (off) and extended (on). They create extra drag when extended and can be used to reduce airspeed without turning the lights on.
EDIT: This description is valid for the 737NG, in previous generations the location of the lights is different.
Captain Mido channel on the A320, it has two landing lights in the wings, they are controlled by a three position switch: Retract, Extend and ON. an aircraft with with fixed landing lights, they remain visible and do not retract.
Captain Mido channel fixed landing gear means as its name implies it fixed to the fuselage and cannot be move like single slow moving aircraft , were as retractable landing gear means the landing gear can move into an inclosed area such the airfoils (wings) or the under belly or in some turboprop the nacelles, the aim is to reduce as much drag as you go forward into the air.
How can the mountains or the rift valley can have impact on landing and taking off of the plane
Great video as usual Mentour!
+Mikael Sjöström Thank you! Great to hear that you like it!
Parallel runways are not always named "left, centre, right". I know one airport where the parallel runways are "23 main" and "23 grass".
so nice to see your shout out to captain joe. i have followed his channel as well with interest. both of you are a credit to your airlines and your industries. i also see his comment below. i hope you 2 manage to hook up for a beer. i do not earn on the level that you 2 do, in fact, at present i am not doing so well, but regardless, and like many others, i really value the time and effort you both take to make these great videos for us all. i shall sell a kidney (lol) and will shout you the beer with the proceeds by contributing to you via patreon. keep up the great work fellas. tip my hat to you both. cheers
Great ! Info. Thanks. As always ! My favorite one !
Great videos Mentour
Totally cool great video too.and runways the tail winds and head winds you done an excellent job..Thank you so much for your videos and everything you do.
+Brenda Proffitt Thank YOU for supporting the channel!
Mentour Pilot your welcome .
Definitely looking forward to the ATIS video!
Excellent video, explained subject matter clearly.
+ken bosco Thank you! Glad that you liked it!
Hi Mentour, could you make a video about PA (Public Annoucments) its would be really interesting to start learning how to make good PA :) Maby like a BONUS video ? :) Thank YOU! Nice video!!!!
Sanil Sanil mentour has done a video on this: check it, mentour pilot: what is the pilot saying?
Great Video Mentour 🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈
Amazing video
Glad you liked it!
VIDEO TOPIC: I feel safer on planes that show maps with the Progression of the flight. I would feel even SAFER, and less LONELY, if the plane shared a map showing us the nearest planes...for example.... how far is the nearest plane behind us and where is it heading. Could you show us how busy the skies are on a typical transatlantic flight?
Mentour and captain Joe must have a very similar flight roster. 😂
You always make me happy and learn me new things! Thank you :-)
+CaptainJelte Great to hear that you like it!
Mentour Pilot :-)
I like this one, I've learnt a few things. Thanks
You r doing great job friend !
+Maciej Zajac Thank you!
That's great explanation, but please can you through more light on choosing the run way and the collision point, the point at which the air craft stricks the wind ...
The best choose way without turbulence 😉😉 Thank you for video 🤗
Great Video
I thought ATC decided which runway you use …..unless it's an emergency !
Well, they decide according to the principles explained here.
You can always negotiate. I once heard Luton offer an easyJet (IIRC) pilot a choice of directions as they weren't busy ... the pilot chose to land with the tailwind to save some taxi time.
Thanks for another great video mentor!!!!
+Eddie Tweed Thank you for always being supportive!
American a great big fan of both of use you and Captain Joe I hope you both make a video together I like to see that. it'll be great I'm not only a fan but I'm a follower and thank you I always feel safe as a passenger when I fly doing things about a plane thanks to both of y'all videos is very exciting in very entertaining I love it take care of your both
Please can you explain a VOR aproach? Greetings from chile
+Mati Aviacion I can give it a try. I actually talked a bit about it in my livestream yesterday.
Mati Aviacion basically, on a VOR approach, you track the VOR radial to the runway. as you pass the FAF, you may descend to the MDA (minimum descent altitude) until you arrive at the MAP. here's where it gets interesting, if you do not see the runway or approach lights upon reaching the MAP, you must execute a missed approach procedure. the VOR provides no glideslope, therefore it is a non-precision approach.
Aren't wind conditions are often a lot higher than 10 or even 15 knots? Really good video though
Always a pleasure to watch! In relation to runways I have another question.
Why are some runways not completely flat but slightly wavy? (For example Birmingham Airport UK)
Yeah
Captain Joe is good too
We want to see both of you in a UA-cam vid!
You're so kind
Awesome video Petter
+RS Aviation Thank you!
I understand runway numbers and preference to headwinds. But what about parallel runways? If you have two or more runways going the same direction, why would you not use the runway nearest to the departing gate and taxi all the way around the airport to use the other runway? I see a lot of that go on at airports like PDX, SLC, DEN, and ORD.
Hello, hello. Such a fantastic channel, also Captain Joe. I enjoy a lot with of you guys. Congratulations.
I have a question: on your point of view, what do you think is more risky, take off or landing? I always think it is landing...
All the best,
Gonzalo
Awesome! What about a aerodrome operating minima video?
+James Speirs I will see what I can do!
Mentour Pilot no stress 😉
I enjoy watching your videos. Can you explain how you properly fly in a circle to land approach
Awesome!!!
given a strong enough and stable headwind, could any airplane in theory take off vertically?
In theory, yes.
With gliders, you can (relatively) easily stay stationary in the air or even fly backwards slowly (relative to the ground) in moderately high winds. I've done that myself.
I haven't heard or seen somebody use this for takeoff or landing, I think this is due to the fact that, close to the ground, you have a "boundary layer" where windspeed is reduced compared to at altitude and that you tend to have machanical turbulence, i.e. turbulence caused by air passing over obstacles such as trees, etc.. In these conditions you want to have some additional speed close to the ground to ensure the aircraft keeps flying and controlable in case the turbulence momentarily reduces the airspeed.
So even for aircraft with stall speeds of maybe 60km/h this is hardly practical, and I don't think anyone would ever want to try this in weather conditions that cause wind speeds above the stall speed of a 737 ;)
I agree both dutch girl, captain joe and you should do a fun video
Despise the fact that you sometimes recommend Cap. Joe's videos you've got your own specific blogging style . I like your peculiar way of explanation!
Great to hear. As long as "peculiar" means good. :)
Awesome Video
Awesome Channel
+Amir sincara Thank you! Feel free to share it with your friends!
your cooking videos are real good but you should do more airplane videos.
How does the pilot know which STAR to use for arrival? As always awesome vid Peter !
FikerzZ Gaming it is included in the CFP
Runway 20 and 02, no that's not going to confuse anyone.
Can you do a video about the approach briefing? Thanks Peter
Aside from engine failure, what sorts of other failures might cause you to abort take off before you reach the decision speed?
A bird strike cracked windsdshield a thrust reverser deploying suddenly an obstacle in front of your plane. Animal or another plane. Etc.there's a video as such.
So when you have to input a runway to land whilst setting up FMC before takeoff do you guess the runway or find out what it is at the time and hope it doesn’t change?
Add demonstration or animation sometimes please, is head wind the wind coming from the nose of the aircraft rushing to tail or the one coming from the tail going to the nose?
Great video
+Kevin Mooney Thank you!
I asked you this question on the live yesterday, also on mentour app. Btw, if you could make a quick video of the seat position. As when you said during the live chat when I asked how is seating determined in a 737.
+Abrar Hasan I will see what I can do.
thanks nice vedioe
I think the question we all have is, how you can tell what runway you ve been told to use...
My question: Do you use both ends of a runway for landing /taking off. OR is it fixed ?. Only ne end for taking off/landing?. From your explanation,I understand that both ends are used for both landing and taking off..
did you know that Louisville international (ksdf) was built where it is because it was spot that did not flood in the ohio river flood of 1937. and now look it is the 7th busiest cargo airport in the world 3rd in the US
Ah... before I forget, again. I thought airports flipped the runway ends (directions) at certain hours of the day (dawn / dusk) for various reasons (sun in pilots eyes during landings, wind direction at night, whatever...)?
Maybe I need to re-watch this episode? I don't believe the pilot has the choice of runways except in emergence's?
If the runways are numbered by compass bearing, how do they deal with magnetic declination over time? Do they need to renumber the runways every so often?
Hello
Can you please post airport signs and how it works. Thank ya
Greetings from Malaysia! Enjoy and learned so much from your videos!
I would like to know do pilots already know which runway to be used for landing at the destination airport to be used for landing before they takeoff?
Take KUL for instance, it has 3 runways (14L/32L, 14R/32R and 15/33) and as per your explanation the KUL ATC probably will decide which particular runway to be used subject to weather, wind direction and probably the number of flights approaching at specific time of the day (and I assume busy international airport will dedicate one runway for taking off while the other for landing at a given specific period).
Do pilots know which runway to land before departure or only after they enter Malaysia airspace and guided the approach by KUL ATC? Are there designated "routes" to approach from either end of the runway? Those "routes" are pre-determined or as and when instructed by ATC?
Thanks!