I'm going to play with this! Over exposing seems so antithetical to good practice to me I'm always afraid of blown highlights. I'll dive into configuring zebras.
My approach involves setting the zebras to a value of 240, switching the mode to "highlight," and paying close attention to the histogram. This way, I try to capture as much light as possible. One downside with Nikon cameras is the lack of a CineEI feature, like on the Sony FX3. With CineEI, you can adjust the display ISO to show a normally exposed image on the monitor, while the actual file is 1.7-2.0 stops overexposed. Similarly, RED cameras allow ISO adjustments as metadata only, so changes affect the monitor exposure but not the RAW file. For my Nikon Z8, I see two options when shooting in bright conditions: either disable the display LUT (Rec.709) or use an external monitor like the Atomos with PQ color space, which doesn’t clip highlights as the Z8’s monitor does with the Rec.709 LUT.
I actually just made a 1 stop and 2 stop overexposure LUT for my shinobi. Those get me really close when exposing by eye, and keep me from underexposing. I can see Nikon beginning to implement things like this in the future. I imagine a lot of cinema knowledge is coming from the RED acquisition.
Thank you for taking time out to respond. This video is awesome, as a nikon shooter with a Z8 i find myself shooting video but struggle trying to understand exposer and vetting that right. Im not sure if its in your video pipeline, but that will be something awesome to sbare in detail as there are nkt many nikon creators out here in the wild.
This is a great video, thanks for making it. One question is, if in shooting in a very low light location where I have no control of the lighting, am I best using iso 6400 and using ND to bring it down to correctly exposed at f/5.6 for example then open up again to f/2.8? And if setting the zebras midtones to 95 is correct for exposure based off Nikon’s recommendation, what would your 2 stops over put that number at and would you just be setting your aperture correctly from the outset?
I've found the same thing. Nikon's LUT is absolutely garbage. The sensor likes to be overexposed and brought down in post. Having a LUT that makes properly exposed footage look overexposed is crazy. When you turn on the exposure preview in camera it makes it look like your highlights are blown out even if they're clean. I've been Colorizers ACES LUTs for NLOG, which let you monitor with the shot more exposed while clearly showing when the highlights start clipping. Doing this makes final footage so much cleaner.
Nikon's display LUTs are awful haha, you're correct. I just made a 1 stop exposure compensation lut to monitor my footage, and you're right, it's so much better
That's all youtube. Perfectly clean on my end. I might throw the comparisons alone up on a different site that doesn't compress if I have time though. Before upload the difference was crazy
Great work with this video. congrats bro. i have another question. Why z6III show wrong minutes remain on the card? i shoot in my tests in 128gb 2 hours and 45 minutes in H265 4k 10 bit color, but everytime z6III show me 42 minute remaine, 35 min, 37 min. i dont understand why. THX A LOT FOR YOUR VIDEOS. sorry for my bad english
I haven't checked! I honestly never shoot on anything but base ISO. The Z6III is much noisier than the A7Siii in general, so I'd imagine that would hold true at those ISOs as well.
The first one (0 Stops) shows once again that flickering in the background. I really hope Nikon releases an NLOG 2, and perhaps a firmware update to minimalize the flickering
I heard a rumor they were working on a fix! Fingers crossed it's true! If they fix that and their horrendous display assist LUT then this thing would be dang near perfect.
@@TannerSimpsonMedia - Yep. It’s why I’m holding out. Hoping for a fix. Z8 while phenomenal, is too big and heavy when using a stabilizer. Z6 III best bang for the buck, actually even punching well above its price weight
Such a valuable video ! Thx a lot
Love your Videos and would love to see a "When to use raw" "When to use h265" "When to use flat Profile/log" comparison!
I'm going to play with this! Over exposing seems so antithetical to good practice to me I'm always afraid of blown highlights. I'll dive into configuring zebras.
My approach involves setting the zebras to a value of 240, switching the mode to "highlight," and paying close attention to the histogram. This way, I try to capture as much light as possible.
One downside with Nikon cameras is the lack of a CineEI feature, like on the Sony FX3. With CineEI, you can adjust the display ISO to show a normally exposed image on the monitor, while the actual file is 1.7-2.0 stops overexposed. Similarly, RED cameras allow ISO adjustments as metadata only, so changes affect the monitor exposure but not the RAW file.
For my Nikon Z8, I see two options when shooting in bright conditions: either disable the display LUT (Rec.709) or use an external monitor like the Atomos with PQ color space, which doesn’t clip highlights as the Z8’s monitor does with the Rec.709 LUT.
I actually just made a 1 stop and 2 stop overexposure LUT for my shinobi. Those get me really close when exposing by eye, and keep me from underexposing. I can see Nikon beginning to implement things like this in the future. I imagine a lot of cinema knowledge is coming from the RED acquisition.
Nice video. 02 stops over has a colour shift to a bit warm colour when you atop down. Just an observation.
I see that too, subtle but noticeable
Thanks a lot! Just landed the Z6III and will test, this looks good!
Thank you for taking time out to respond. This video is awesome, as a nikon shooter with a Z8 i find myself shooting video but struggle trying to understand exposer and vetting that right. Im not sure if its in your video pipeline, but that will be something awesome to sbare in detail as there are nkt many nikon creators out here in the wild.
Thx!
This is a great video, thanks for making it. One question is, if in shooting in a very low light location where I have no control of the lighting, am I best using iso 6400 and using ND to bring it down to correctly exposed at f/5.6 for example then open up again to f/2.8? And if setting the zebras midtones to 95 is correct for exposure based off Nikon’s recommendation, what would your 2 stops over put that number at and would you just be setting your aperture correctly from the outset?
This is because N-Log underexposes by 2 stops to protect the highlights. If there aren't highlights to protect you should always overexpose im N-Log.
Kasey from camera conspiracies needs to watch this video, cause his nikon footage is even noisier than your 0 stop footage 😂😂
ETTR never fails
This is why all cinematographers "expose to the right" with lighting or aperture.
I've found the same thing. Nikon's LUT is absolutely garbage. The sensor likes to be overexposed and brought down in post. Having a LUT that makes properly exposed footage look overexposed is crazy. When you turn on the exposure preview in camera it makes it look like your highlights are blown out even if they're clean. I've been Colorizers ACES LUTs for NLOG, which let you monitor with the shot more exposed while clearly showing when the highlights start clipping. Doing this makes final footage so much cleaner.
Nikon's display LUTs are awful haha, you're correct. I just made a 1 stop exposure compensation lut to monitor my footage, and you're right, it's so much better
Awesome video. I noticed some banding in the background on the over exposed clips. Is that from UA-cam or do you see those as well?
That's all youtube. Perfectly clean on my end. I might throw the comparisons alone up on a different site that doesn't compress if I have time though.
Before upload the difference was crazy
Great work with this video. congrats bro. i have another question. Why z6III show wrong minutes remain on the card? i shoot in my tests in 128gb 2 hours and 45 minutes in H265 4k 10 bit color, but everytime z6III show me 42 minute remaine, 35 min, 37 min. i dont understand why. THX A LOT FOR YOUR VIDEOS. sorry for my bad english
Great video!!how is the noise performance compare with a7siii or z6ii at iso 25600-40000
I haven't checked! I honestly never shoot on anything but base ISO. The Z6III is much noisier than the A7Siii in general, so I'd imagine that would hold true at those ISOs as well.
@TannerSimpsonMedia Thank you very much 🙏!!!!
The first one (0 Stops) shows once again that flickering in the background. I really hope Nikon releases an NLOG 2, and perhaps a firmware update to minimalize the flickering
I heard a rumor they were working on a fix! Fingers crossed it's true! If they fix that and their horrendous display assist LUT then this thing would be dang near perfect.
@@TannerSimpsonMedia - Yep. It’s why I’m holding out. Hoping for a fix. Z8 while phenomenal, is too big and heavy when using a stabilizer. Z6 III best bang for the buck, actually even punching well above its price weight
Wow, interesting. I shoot with a Z8 and Z9 and I'll have to see if I get the same results.
I'd love to know your results.
Its jack!!!love your channel and the tips you give with nikon.
3:11 Why +2 stops is not brighter compared to +0 stops?
I brought the exposure down in davinci resolve to match.
Hey bro love your videos
Thanks man!