To prevent further repeat comments: I explicitly stated Michael was PROBABLY the Pizza Sim protagonist. There's enough plausible deniability with how it's presented but every sign points to it not being some random guy. I'm well aware of the all evidence that Michael is in Pizzeria Simulator and I left it open in case Scott decides to imply something else next week. I explicitly state when I estimate a date in this timeline, I don't need implications that the first Freddy's opens in 1983, I just need to state it's open BEFORE Fredbear's shuts down. As for Michael in FNAF 1, sure. Maybe something I don't know about the Survival Logbook implies he's worked at the FNAF 1 establishment, I'll concede on that. But he's definitely NOT Fritz in FNAF 2. If you interpret FNAF 2's Phone Calls as in-the-moment, Phone Guy, the man who trained Jeremy as a new hire, states he'll replace Jeremy on the night shift. It also doesn't help that Night 7 has no phone call, and if Fritz was truly a new hire he'd be getting the same training as Jeremy. (See my Phone Guy video) If you wanna say FNAF 2's calls are pre-recorded, or that Michael works in FNAF 2's Custom Night long after Jeremy's week, that DOESN'T WORK EITHER. The restaurant never reopens after the SAVE THEM police investigation and the Toys are scrapped. If Michael went to the FNAF 2 establishment after 1987 the Toy animatronics would be empty shells in cardboard boxes at that point. As for the Phantoms: There are pieces of those animatronics littered across Fazbear's Fright as the main decorations. Michael can imagine a broken Freddy limping down the hallway 3 feet away from his office because there's a broken Freddy 3 FEET AWAY FROM HIS OFFICE. It's also worth mentioning Michael's very existence in FNAF 4 shows he's been to these restaurants as a customer. He doesn't need several decades of work experience to recognize and hallucinate his dad's robots. Thank you for all the interaction on this video, and don't assume I'm mad about these comments, it's just getting repetitive and I capitalize words because I don't know how to (or if you can) bold and italicize UA-cam comments. You don't need to agree with my videos, I just put new (and sometimes flawed) theories into the world. I've finalized the script for the next video, so I'll see you on the Flipside.
why is foxy repressented as the nightguard in the survival logbook and the office of fnaf3 its literally there? besides that it is shown in the logbook that foxy it's reading a book called "Screws,Bolts and Hairpins" a refference to hand-unit from SL when he literally says this at the begging of night1,the casual bongos as well.
@@Fracc6578 I don't own the Survival Logbook for myself, so I'm probably incredibly unqualified to answer this question, but if you're saying the Logbook depicts the FNAF 3 security guard as Foxy, and Foxy has several references to Sister Location, it's probably using Foxy to depict Michael Afton, since Michael wears a Foxy mask throughout FNAF 4 and Michael has undeniably worked in Fazbear's Fright and CB's Entertainment & Rentals
I like this guy. He takes actual evidence from the games and makes logical inferences based on those. He doesn't have the mindset of "Everything in the game means something", he has the mindset of "These are indie games. There are errors and mistakes. What makes the most sense? Would a writer really write something so illogical, or would a writer write a good story?" So many fnaf theorists seem to just not think about that.
5:18 Dittophobia also includes evidence that Elizabeth was born after the Bite of '83. Rory, the story's protagonist, comes to learn that he's actually 17 and not 7/8 as he was led to believe due to experimental gas (he was kidnapped as a child for said experimental gas). While on the phone with a friend, he learned that his parents had another child since he went missing. He now has a 9 year old sister.
@@glytchbyte7727 Thanks. I probably should add that Elizabeth could have also been really young (either as a baby or toddler) by the time of The Bite of '83 instead of being born after it. Not sure how much that helps or hurts but I forgot to write in my first comment. Onto the sister in Dittophobia: yeah, it was a detail that *really* stuck out to me. As far as I can tell, everything about the sister didn't *need* to be in the story. You could take that detail out of the story and bugger all would change. It really comes across as a deliberate clue.
There's no clear age for game-continuity Elizabeth as far as I'm aware, but given the way she speaks in Sister Location and the fact she was left unsupervised in Pizza World I always imagined her around that 9-10-11 area. With the fact Michael's had Dittophobia-esque experiences and the Dittophobia protagonist having that random younger sister, I think that's some of the best media to go off of.
Might be out of place but I Just watched mat pats goodbye vid and can I say the emotions I felt just hearing the first few words of the vid hit me like a truck
@@glytchbyte7727 I do kinda hope that he dose make appearances through out the coming years in vids or livestreams But I still respect the living hell out of the man
I personally think Mike Schmitt is Michael Afton investigating Freddy's. I believe the immortal and the restless gives us a good look into Mike and William's dynamic, with Mike constantly drilling William asking him about Freddy's dark past, with William eventually slipping up, and then sending Mike to go free Elizabeth or die in SL. I think Mike = Clara because of Mike saying he connects with Clara in the survival logbook, saying "everything is crazy but no one other than me seems to notice". For Fritz it could go either way, but I'm leaning probably not Mike. Other than that I really like your interpretation of the TL, great video!
I agree that Michael Afton has every right to investigate Freddy's, but as it stands the timeline doesn't give him much of an opportunity for FNAF 1, and Fazbear's Fright could honestly fill the investigation role pretty well, given nearly all of it was stolen from the FNAF 1 and 2 restaurants.
You skipped the fact that both Scraptrap and ScrapBaby recognise the FNAF6 protagonist which together with Henry Emily it really narrow it down to Michael Afton.
Thought it may not seemed like at first, but Molten Freddy also recognizes Michael as well, with lines like "TOGETHER AGAIN!" and "WHAT A PLEASENT SURPISE!"
You definitely play as michael in pizza sim because molten freddy says “one big happy family!” And naturally Elizabeth, William, and Mike were deliberately brought back by Henry. Along with Charlie who Henry addresses in his speech.
Furthermore, one of Scraptrap's jumpscare lines says: "You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me." This would imply that whoever we play as has seen either William Afton, or at least Springtrap, before. Of the two named characters we know of who would have seen him, we can safely rule out Henry since we receive his instructions throughout the entire game. That leaves Michael, who would obviously know his dad and who is very very very heavily implied to be FNAF 3's night guard.
Loved the video, looking forward to the upcoming video about the silly chicken! I also believe Fazbear's Fright was run by some dumb fraternity for Halloween, so I'm glad someone else had the same idea, lol. Counterpoint about the fnaf 4 girl's bedroom: it seems unlikely that it's intended as a nursery for a yet unborn baby, since she has a bed, not a crib, and an obviously played with Mangle toy on the floor, not put away or put back together. While possible that she would be kept somewhere else in the house and grow into that room years later, it would be weird for Scott to show that very lived in bedroom if the story was supposed to imply that she wasn't born yet. P.S.: Totally "out-there" theory, but it's worth noting that the fnaf4 playground girl (the one with the fnaf2 Toy figurines) calls them a "collection," even though she's missing Funtime Foxy/Mangle. It seems odd to use that exact wording instead of just calling them her toys. It's possible that the Mangle toy broke (Chica is missing her beak because the toys are cheap and fragile) and she's playing with the other three having left Mangle behind. This toy girl is playing in the front yard of the fnaf4 minigame house (seemingly directly below/outside of the girl's room on the map), and she's the *only* character who tries to comfort the fnaf4 minigame boy, so it seems possible she could be the missing sister. This of course throws a huge wrench into the Afton family interpretation of fnaf4, though, and that's another rabbit hole.
The full bed is definitely a weird choice, but I'm actually willing to say the Mangled Funtime Foxy makes sense as a hand-me-down toy, since Michael is shown to have Foxy merch through his mask, and Crying Child's Foxy plush is missing it's head. It's not a perfect theory, but the math would check out if Elizebeth is 10-ish when she dies, and it's a family dynamic Scott has written about with the Movie
That's not really a major detail for the purposes of my video, William being the business side of FazEnt means he'd definitely have say in design and marketing, so I didn't feel the need to bring it up
Just one quick thing: The FNAF Help Wanted 1 and 2 tokens say that Freddy Fazbear Pizza was opened in 1983. I might be missing something though. Edit: Also, Henry's dialogue in FNAF 6 is titled HRY223, implying that FNAF 6 takes place in 2023
You right years like that? Lol most people either do 2023 or 23, 223 implies a month/day Also Fazbear Entertainment was founded in 1983, doesnt mean the first location opened that late
I won’t go into most of the stuff that I find dubious about this timeline but I will say Mike is 100% the guard for at least Fnaf one probably Fnaf two you mention how he 100% experience Fnaf four from the logbook, well in Fnaf 4 you can hear the fnaf 1 phone call and I believe he also does passing references to one and two as well in the book. I believe 100% he is in one probably two as well
i just wanted also to say that i'm really enjoying these old style theory videos, even if i don't agree with some things it's refreshing to see this content. keep it up!
They way ive always heard the story is that william told miachel if he didnt come back for a long time, to check the closet of his office Since afton got springlocked he didnt come back, and started Michael's search after finding out the office closet was the elevator to Sister Location under their house, after which he went from location to location trying to find william Also love this channel and excited to see more, i didnt realize this channel was as small as it is cause you and yoyr channel just give off bit channel vibes
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(assuming micheal is the protag) the "odor" thing on the pink slip could also be related to micheals tampering with the animatronics. since theres rotton corpses inside the suits its not unthinkable that he absorbed some of the smell
What’s your explanation on why we don’t see William’s or the big brother’s rooms in Fnaf 4? I’ve always found it odd that we get to see the room of a character who isn’t in the game.
FNAF 4's minigames filter a lot of things from what the real locations would be, just from a game design standpoint. Fredbear's is shown as just a main Show Area and a maintenance room, when the full location would at least need bathrooms and a kitchen, so I don't think it's that important that we don't see rooms for Michael or William. I've always considered the doors in Plushtrap's hallway to lead to areas otherwise unseen in FNAF 4, like additional bedrooms, the bathroom from Sister Location's Real Ending, and maybe a home office with access to Entertainment & Rentals.
I think there’s a wooden door left of the tv in the fnaf 4 mini games, which could mean another room, or another wing of the house. I think it’s the big brothers room, and that the parents aren’t important at that point of the story. Mike might have not been an afton at the time, Scott may have been leaving it up in the air.
I didn't know that about the Movie Novel, but given FNaF World's "Purple Guy" and UCN's "Phone Guy" I don't think it's a stretch to say Scott used a filler name so we could theorize. "Bob" doesn't strike me as the kind of name Scott would finalize for a character, especially considering he dies on the job before Mike takes the nightshift like Phone Guy in FNAF 1, and he's killed by Foxy, who Phone Guy states in FNAF 2 "was always his favorite." I have an entire video on the Fritz is Phone Guy theory, if you wanna check that out.
I’m not sure if you know this from someone else’s comment or not but the story dittophobia actually starts out in 1983 and extends for a whole 10 years so that kind of breaks where you think Afton robotics was established
Hi sorry for the late comment but I love this timeline! It’s a repetitive comment but I think Schmidt might be the moms maiden name taken on by Micheal after their split (if there is a wife). We never hear Micheal actually be called Micheal Afton to my knowledge, but I’m not sure. Let me know what you think! :D
I like the timeline, I just have one question: You state it's confirmed that fnaf 3 is "30 years after the LAST Freddy Fazbear's closes". I could be wrong, but don't we just know it's 30 years after *A* Freddy's closes, not the last one? If you're familiar with Gibi's Good Ideas, bad Ideas he made the case that fnaf 3 could be in 2015, thus the year when the game came out Also, Funtime Chica is my favorite character so you better do her right >:D
I have heard that argument before, and while I'm pretty sure it's 30 years since FNAF 1 specifically, it doesn't change anything if it's 30 years from 1985. It just means there's a shorter period of dead space between Sister Location and 3. Movie-esque Yellow Rabbit shouldn't need nearly 30 years to decay into Springtrap, and Michael doesn't need nearly 30 years to find another job, so just adjust the years around 2015 and it's the same story
Watching the video here are my thoghts 2:32 it's implied by FNaF 6/FFPS to be before "a wound first inflicted on me that I let bleed out..." 4:10 Well, you chould argue that it's a bed and not a crib. Your explanation but according to the novels she dies at 6-ish Yeats old 8:15 NOT IN FNaF 1 he doesn't need to be a corpes for that as he tampered with the smelly corpes filled animatronics The logbook directly connects FNaF 1 to SL and a lesser point we only hear of 2 Mikes in the games them being the same is all but a strech
While you made a few good points, a lot of this video is founded on misinformation, or at the very least a lack of information. First of all, too many people seem to forget the fact that William got springlocked BEFORE FNaF 1, considering that Phone Guy was still alive when the safe rooms get sealed (which was only done to cover up William's "death" in the first place). Regardless of who the night guard is in FNaF 1, or which year it takes place in (turns out the minimum wage thing might have been miscalculated, so it might be 1992 instead of 1993), the concrete fact of the matter is that the classic animatronics were repaired and still possessed even after William "destroyed" them. Second, Help Wanted 2 has now all but confirmed that the death order was MCI > Charlie > Crying Child. Plus, the Faz-Tokens state that Freddy Fazbear's Pizza itself first opened in 1983, likely very early in the year so that it had about 6 months of success first before the MCI occurred in late June and things began to snowball from there, eventually resulting in 7 dead kids in one year. HW2 provide further proof that these deaths were in 1983, so clearly putting too much weight into the words of separate book continuities when trying to discuss the games is not a good thing. The Bite of '83 was likely not the specific reason that Fredbear's closed. Phone guy says that it was due to multiple and simultaneous springlock failures that made them deem the suits unsafe for employees. But springlock failures are caused when the endoskeletons snap from suit mode back into animatronic mode, and Fredbear was ALREADY in animatronic mode when the bite happened, meaning that realistically it shouldn't have had anything to do with the springlocks. He just... chomped. Instead, it's more likely that Fredbear's got shut down because some employees in the suits got springlocked to death not long after the bite. HandUnit says that Circus Baby's only opened after the success and closing of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, but the only one that was lasted long enough to be successful was the original one, which (although struggling) stayed open for several years after the MCI, while no other location lasted more than a few weeks. Both Circus Baby's AND the FNaF 2 location are dependent on the original location shutting down first, but HandUnit only mentions one location, which leads me to believe that at the bare minimum, Circus Baby's Pizza World's only open day (including Elizabeth's death) and subsequent opening of the rental service all happened before FNaF 2, likely in early 1987. This all begs the question then, how are the Funtime animatronics possessed? It's simple really, aside from Elizabeth, they never managed to kill any kids themselves, so William HAD to have manually injected them with Remnant before he got sealed away, presumably after he realized that Elizabeth possessed Baby. At this point, a new Freddy's location opened in late 1987, and William probably wanted to know if the same had happened to his previous victims, so he became the first night guard in order to access the animatronics. However, after a week of them trying to kill him, he transferred over to the day shift and probably figured that it'd be easier to just kill more kids and harvest Remnant that way, and THOSE kids became the Funtimes. From there, Jeremy finishes his week in FNaF 2 while William is trying to deal with the now hostile Funtimes, at which point he gets Michael (who has probably turned 18 recently if he was around 14 or so when Crying Child died) a job down in the bunker, telling him to help his sister but probably expecting them to just kill him in William's place since they look similar. Michael gets scooped but survives after a week full of Ennard, then, in search of answers, has just enough time to get a guard job at the FNaF 2 location before it closes, but immediately gets fired before he can accomplish much. This explains how there's JUST enough of a window for everything to work while still allowing Michael to still be both Fritz Smith and Mike Schmidt and get fired for his corpse-y odor. And yes, Michael is absolutely still both "Fritz" and "Mike" because of the Phantoms in FNaF 3. Clearly this protagonist encountered the cast from both previous locations in order to hallucinate about them in FNaF 3, plus it's been stated that their burned appearance matters, which would only be the case if our protagonist had a reason to view them as burned. Like, for example, if it were Michael trying to free the souls by setting the locations on fire after the fact. I hope this didn't sound like I was bashing your theory, you clearly put effort into it, I just wanted to set the record straight as thoroughly as I could.
I've spoken on some of your points in other comments, so I won't reiterate everything here, but I wanna mention you state William was Springlocked after MCI and the Safe Room was sealed with him inside, yet he's still around for SAVE THEM in 1987. I know there's been media depicting William surviving a Springlock failure, but if he gets out of the failure shown in the games it negates the fact that Springtrap even exists for FNAF 3. You also state that the Funtimes don't kill anyone themselves, but between the Booking Schedule in ScottGames source code and FT Freddy's obviously used storage tank blueprint, I think it's safe to say they got some kills in and SAVE THEM is still the Toys. I've already made another comment saying the broken animatronic casings around Fazbear Fright is reason for Michael to see the Phantoms, especially considering some of the Phantoms' inaccuracies, like Phantom Freddy being reskinned FNAF2 Golden Freddy, or Phantom Foxy's missing hook. And while I agree FNAF 1 and 2 weren't "massive successes" like HandUnit says, that first restaurant's legacy is still there. I made the majority of that script in the days before HW2, so the new kill order was just something that didn't exist until after the video was finalized, so whoops on that I guess.
@@glytchbyte7727 "you state William was Springlocked after MCI and the Safe Room was sealed with him inside, yet he's still around for SAVE THEM in 1987." This line was extremely confusing until I realized that you probably misunderstood what I said, so apologies. I meant that William got springlocked and sealed away BETWEEN FNaF 2 in 1987 and FNaF 1 in '92/'93, so of course he was still around for SAVE THEM. Remember that once the FNaF 2 location was closed down, the Withered animatronics were sent back to their original location, where William tried to destroy them in secret (presumably to try and harvest more remnant and/or destroy the evidence of his past crimes) but was confronted by the ghosts and springlocked, after which someone (likely Henry) found his body in the safe room and ordered that they all be sealed in order to cover it up, an event that Phone Guy lived long enough to know about before dying prior to FNaF 1 in the early 90's. Thus, it's chronologically impossible for William's springlocking to occur outside of that 5-6 year window from November of 1987 to November of '92/'93, and while it could theoretically happen at any point during that span of time, it makes the most sense for it to happen asap, like early 1988 or maybe even December of 1987, basically right after the Withered animatronics are moved back to their original location and abandoned to rot for a while.
@@Luigifan305 The sealing of the Safe Room is documented on one of the training cassettes in FNAF 3, specifically after mentions of Spring Bonnie moving, meaning it would've happened between MCI and New and Improved for FNAF 2. It's most likely that the false wall was never finished before the First location closed, or it was ultimately torn down to keep the Springlock costumes in an actively watched establishment, since in FNAF 2's 6th Night Phone Guy says the suit that was used was "a yellow one." The FNAF 3 minigames place the Safe Room on the Northern wall of the Bathroom Hallway, where the camera is positioned in the corner facing South, so that false wall is never actually shown to be there in FNAF 1. We could realistically argue back and forth forever, but there's a detail I'll be bringing up in my next video that reinforces the FNAF 1 > SL > 3 timeline. You won't change my mind on this, so if I can't change your mind I encourage you to call me stupid and walk away. I've been wrong before, and while I don't think I'm wrong on this, if you think I am wrong it's perfectly possible.
How would you explain the phantom animatronics, which have designs from 1 and 2. If we go off of Fazbear Frights "What we found" springtrap causes hallucinations of what a person has seen before?
@@glytchbyte7727tbh don’t find your reason exactly flawless since most of the story nothing except for 4 ever shows or at least implied that Michael Afton was a customer to the animatronic restaurants, meaning that it can’t work with Michael Afton not being Fritz Smith and Mike Schmidt, most especially since the story called What We Found showed or at least hinted that one’s hallucinations were from one’s traumatic past, and with Michael Afton being under the two alias names of Fritz Smith and Mike Schmidt would had at least got trauma or some of it from the animatronics trying to kill him.
@@ethancurtsinger172 Considering Foxy doesn't exist at Fredbear's his mask needed to come from the First Freddy Fazbear's, clearing the Classic animatronics. While there's no solid proof he went to New & Improved as a customer, William is explicitly shown in SAVE THEM to still be around in '87, so his "going to come find you" motive doesn't exist in the few weeks the Toys aren't scraps in boxes. I think the biggest damning evidence is "Schmidt" in FNAF 1. Assuming Michael is the "brave volunteer" from Pizza Sim, we know firsthand that Henry has nothing against Michael, so Michael wouldn't need a fake last name to land a job in Freddy's. Him being an Afton would exclusively help him get hired by Henry, since they both hate William and would be willing to help each other in this cause.
I commented on this in response to someone else, but there's no reason to believe the Safe Room is still sealed in FNAF 1. The false wall was being constructed following reports of Spring Bonnie's movements during MCI, and we know that the suit used in FNAF 2's SAVE THEM is "a yellow one." It's likely either the false wall was never finished or it was torn down to keep the Springlock suits in the active establishment in 1987. I plan on expanding the timeline a little more in my Funtime Chica video, and I have a segment following the locations of the Springlock costumes in my Yenndo video, so if you don't agree with me, we probably won't be changing each other's minds.
@@glytchbyte7727 I get this idea, and I much prefer sister location being later on in the time line like you have it, as the more futuristic/ Sci fi elements make more sense. But having to explain the safe room being blocked up, then unblocked and resealed it's just kinda unsatisfying, but I guess it's the same as the withereds being 'unwithered' and the freddys restaurant opening and closing like 5 times as some people interpret lol. There is always the detail of the animatronics in 'Follow me' FNAF 3 minigames having buttons on their chests like the withereds though...
Michael Afton, after the events of getting Scooped in Sister Location. As for the animatronics, Springtrap would be explicitly violent having the still-conscious body of a serial killer, and I elaborate more on the Phantoms in my pinned comment.
If we know for sure that Michael its the nightguard in fnaf3 then why is he even seeing the original animatronics as phantoms in the first place? If he never experienced fnaf2 and fnaf1 nights
Fazbear's Fright features the old casings for the Classic and Toy animatronics, so you don't need much of a history with the restaurants to imagine a broken Freddy wandering around when there's a broken Freddy 3 feet from the door.
@@glytchbyte7727 So you're saying that a random guy decided to work as the nightguard in this horror attraction before it even opened to the public? This makes 0 sense and gives the nightguard no motivation if you're saying it was a random guy
No, the first Freddy Fazbear's had "two specially designed Springlock suits" and I said it's most likely that the two suits were one of each character. The animatronic lineup of the first Freddy Fazbear's Pizza would be: Freddy, with multiple spares Bonnie, with multiple spares Chica, with multiple spares Foxy, with multiple spares One Fredbear costume One Spring-Bonnie costume The FNAF 4 minigames does show extra Springlock costumes, but that takes place at Fredbear's Family Diner.
I feel really bad hitting you with the "Stay Tuned!" but I am actually addressing that detail in my Yenndo video, so either wait until I elaborate on my opinion on that later, or just form your own opinion on it. Game Realization exists to challenge the current narrative, so I encourage you to challenge me whenever I may be wrong
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I explicitly stated Michael was PROBABLY the Pizza Sim protagonist. There's enough plausible deniability with how it's presented but every sign points to it not being some random guy. I'm well aware of the all evidence that Michael is in Pizzeria Simulator and I left it open in case Scott decides to imply something else next week.
I explicitly state when I estimate a date in this timeline, I don't need implications that the first Freddy's opens in 1983, I just need to state it's open BEFORE Fredbear's shuts down.
As for Michael in FNAF 1, sure. Maybe something I don't know about the Survival Logbook implies he's worked at the FNAF 1 establishment, I'll concede on that. But he's definitely NOT Fritz in FNAF 2. If you interpret FNAF 2's Phone Calls as in-the-moment, Phone Guy, the man who trained Jeremy as a new hire, states he'll replace Jeremy on the night shift. It also doesn't help that Night 7 has no phone call, and if Fritz was truly a new hire he'd be getting the same training as Jeremy. (See my Phone Guy video)
If you wanna say FNAF 2's calls are pre-recorded, or that Michael works in FNAF 2's Custom Night long after Jeremy's week, that DOESN'T WORK EITHER. The restaurant never reopens after the SAVE THEM police investigation and the Toys are scrapped. If Michael went to the FNAF 2 establishment after 1987 the Toy animatronics would be empty shells in cardboard boxes at that point.
As for the Phantoms: There are pieces of those animatronics littered across Fazbear's Fright as the main decorations. Michael can imagine a broken Freddy limping down the hallway 3 feet away from his office because there's a broken Freddy 3 FEET AWAY FROM HIS OFFICE. It's also worth mentioning Michael's very existence in FNAF 4 shows he's been to these restaurants as a customer. He doesn't need several decades of work experience to recognize and hallucinate his dad's robots.
Thank you for all the interaction on this video, and don't assume I'm mad about these comments, it's just getting repetitive and I capitalize words because I don't know how to (or if you can) bold and italicize UA-cam comments. You don't need to agree with my videos, I just put new (and sometimes flawed) theories into the world. I've finalized the script for the next video, so I'll see you on the Flipside.
why is foxy repressented as the nightguard in the survival logbook and the office of fnaf3 its literally there? besides that it is shown in the logbook that foxy it's reading a book called "Screws,Bolts and Hairpins" a refference to hand-unit from SL when he literally says this at the begging of night1,the casual bongos as well.
@@Fracc6578 I don't own the Survival Logbook for myself, so I'm probably incredibly unqualified to answer this question, but if you're saying the Logbook depicts the FNAF 3 security guard as Foxy, and Foxy has several references to Sister Location, it's probably using Foxy to depict Michael Afton, since Michael wears a Foxy mask throughout FNAF 4 and Michael has undeniably worked in Fazbear's Fright and CB's Entertainment & Rentals
You use Asterisks * to bold comments and these things _ to italicize. It can be finnicky but you *_can_* do it!
I like this guy. He takes actual evidence from the games and makes logical inferences based on those. He doesn't have the mindset of "Everything in the game means something", he has the mindset of "These are indie games. There are errors and mistakes. What makes the most sense? Would a writer really write something so illogical, or would a writer write a good story?" So many fnaf theorists seem to just not think about that.
5:18 Dittophobia also includes evidence that Elizabeth was born after the Bite of '83. Rory, the story's protagonist, comes to learn that he's actually 17 and not 7/8 as he was led to believe due to experimental gas (he was kidnapped as a child for said experimental gas).
While on the phone with a friend, he learned that his parents had another child since he went missing. He now has a 9 year old sister.
I didn't know that, but that 9 year old sister does fall in that range of 1983 to 1993 give-or-take a few months. Neat detail
@@glytchbyte7727 Thanks. I probably should add that Elizabeth could have also been really young (either as a baby or toddler) by the time of The Bite of '83 instead of being born after it. Not sure how much that helps or hurts but I forgot to write in my first comment.
Onto the sister in Dittophobia: yeah, it was a detail that *really* stuck out to me. As far as I can tell, everything about the sister didn't *need* to be in the story. You could take that detail out of the story and bugger all would change. It really comes across as a deliberate clue.
There's no clear age for game-continuity Elizabeth as far as I'm aware, but given the way she speaks in Sister Location and the fact she was left unsupervised in Pizza World I always imagined her around that 9-10-11 area. With the fact Michael's had Dittophobia-esque experiences and the Dittophobia protagonist having that random younger sister, I think that's some of the best media to go off of.
Might be out of place but I Just watched mat pats goodbye vid and can I say the emotions I felt just hearing the first few words of the vid hit me like a truck
I know. I've been doing "Game Realization" out of respect, but it's still gonna feel weird with him on his way out.
@@glytchbyte7727 I do kinda hope that he dose make appearances through out the coming years in vids or livestreams
But I still respect the living hell out of the man
@@garry_the_larry5118 same
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I personally think Mike Schmitt is Michael Afton investigating Freddy's. I believe the immortal and the restless gives us a good look into Mike and William's dynamic, with Mike constantly drilling William asking him about Freddy's dark past, with William eventually slipping up, and then sending Mike to go free Elizabeth or die in SL. I think Mike = Clara because of Mike saying he connects with Clara in the survival logbook, saying "everything is crazy but no one other than me seems to notice". For Fritz it could go either way, but I'm leaning probably not Mike.
Other than that I really like your interpretation of the TL, great video!
I agree that Michael Afton has every right to investigate Freddy's, but as it stands the timeline doesn't give him much of an opportunity for FNAF 1, and Fazbear's Fright could honestly fill the investigation role pretty well, given nearly all of it was stolen from the FNAF 1 and 2 restaurants.
You skipped the fact that both Scraptrap and ScrapBaby recognise the FNAF6 protagonist which together with Henry Emily it really narrow it down to Michael Afton.
Thought it may not seemed like at first, but Molten Freddy also recognizes Michael as well, with lines like "TOGETHER AGAIN!" and "WHAT A PLEASENT SURPISE!"
You definitely play as michael in pizza sim because molten freddy says “one big happy family!” And naturally Elizabeth, William, and Mike were deliberately brought back by Henry. Along with Charlie who Henry addresses in his speech.
Furthermore, one of Scraptrap's jumpscare lines says: "You may not recognize me at first, but I assure you, it's still me." This would imply that whoever we play as has seen either William Afton, or at least Springtrap, before. Of the two named characters we know of who would have seen him, we can safely rule out Henry since we receive his instructions throughout the entire game. That leaves Michael, who would obviously know his dad and who is very very very heavily implied to be FNAF 3's night guard.
@@vsnake8663 I never considered that! Thank you for the bonus evidence kind stranger
Loved the video, looking forward to the upcoming video about the silly chicken! I also believe Fazbear's Fright was run by some dumb fraternity for Halloween, so I'm glad someone else had the same idea, lol.
Counterpoint about the fnaf 4 girl's bedroom: it seems unlikely that it's intended as a nursery for a yet unborn baby, since she has a bed, not a crib, and an obviously played with Mangle toy on the floor, not put away or put back together. While possible that she would be kept somewhere else in the house and grow into that room years later, it would be weird for Scott to show that very lived in bedroom if the story was supposed to imply that she wasn't born yet.
P.S.: Totally "out-there" theory, but it's worth noting that the fnaf4 playground girl (the one with the fnaf2 Toy figurines) calls them a "collection," even though she's missing Funtime Foxy/Mangle. It seems odd to use that exact wording instead of just calling them her toys. It's possible that the Mangle toy broke (Chica is missing her beak because the toys are cheap and fragile) and she's playing with the other three having left Mangle behind. This toy girl is playing in the front yard of the fnaf4 minigame house (seemingly directly below/outside of the girl's room on the map), and she's the *only* character who tries to comfort the fnaf4 minigame boy, so it seems possible she could be the missing sister. This of course throws a huge wrench into the Afton family interpretation of fnaf4, though, and that's another rabbit hole.
The full bed is definitely a weird choice, but I'm actually willing to say the Mangled Funtime Foxy makes sense as a hand-me-down toy, since Michael is shown to have Foxy merch through his mask, and Crying Child's Foxy plush is missing it's head. It's not a perfect theory, but the math would check out if Elizebeth is 10-ish when she dies, and it's a family dynamic Scott has written about with the Movie
William Afton is also the one who designed the cartoon characters Henry Emily based on to create animatronics.
That's not really a major detail for the purposes of my video, William being the business side of FazEnt means he'd definitely have say in design and marketing, so I didn't feel the need to bring it up
Just one quick thing: The FNAF Help Wanted 1 and 2 tokens say that Freddy Fazbear Pizza was opened in 1983. I might be missing something though.
Edit: Also, Henry's dialogue in FNAF 6 is titled HRY223, implying that FNAF 6 takes place in 2023
You right years like that? Lol most people either do 2023 or 23, 223 implies a month/day
Also Fazbear Entertainment was founded in 1983, doesnt mean the first location opened that late
I won’t go into most of the stuff that I find dubious about this timeline but I will say Mike is 100% the guard for at least Fnaf one probably Fnaf two you mention how he 100% experience Fnaf four from the logbook, well in Fnaf 4 you can hear the fnaf 1 phone call and I believe he also does passing references to one and two as well in the book. I believe 100% he is in one probably two as well
i just wanted also to say that i'm really enjoying these old style theory videos, even if i don't agree with some things it's refreshing to see this content. keep it up!
I love these new perspectives, keep it up!
This is the timeline I've always wanted it to be and now I have proof for this
Great video!
They way ive always heard the story is that william told miachel if he didnt come back for a long time, to check the closet of his office
Since afton got springlocked he didnt come back, and started Michael's search after finding out the office closet was the elevator to Sister Location under their house, after which he went from location to location trying to find william
Also love this channel and excited to see more, i didnt realize this channel was as small as it is cause you and yoyr channel just give off bit channel vibes
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(assuming micheal is the protag) the "odor" thing on the pink slip could also be related to micheals tampering with the animatronics. since theres rotton corpses inside the suits its not unthinkable that he absorbed some of the smell
What’s your explanation on why we don’t see William’s or the big brother’s rooms in Fnaf 4? I’ve always found it odd that we get to see the room of a character who isn’t in the game.
FNAF 4's minigames filter a lot of things from what the real locations would be, just from a game design standpoint. Fredbear's is shown as just a main Show Area and a maintenance room, when the full location would at least need bathrooms and a kitchen, so I don't think it's that important that we don't see rooms for Michael or William. I've always considered the doors in Plushtrap's hallway to lead to areas otherwise unseen in FNAF 4, like additional bedrooms, the bathroom from Sister Location's Real Ending, and maybe a home office with access to Entertainment & Rentals.
I think there’s a wooden door left of the tv in the fnaf 4 mini games, which could mean another room, or another wing of the house. I think it’s the big brothers room, and that the parents aren’t important at that point of the story. Mike might have not been an afton at the time, Scott may have been leaving it up in the air.
The guards name at the beginning of the movies name is Bob because the fnaf movie novel calls him Bob in the beginning of the book
I didn't know that about the Movie Novel, but given FNaF World's "Purple Guy" and UCN's "Phone Guy" I don't think it's a stretch to say Scott used a filler name so we could theorize. "Bob" doesn't strike me as the kind of name Scott would finalize for a character, especially considering he dies on the job before Mike takes the nightshift like Phone Guy in FNAF 1, and he's killed by Foxy, who Phone Guy states in FNAF 2 "was always his favorite." I have an entire video on the Fritz is Phone Guy theory, if you wanna check that out.
Matpat 2.0? Im seeing some potential!
The logbook says all mike wanted to make money working at fnaf 1, that’s the same mike as Michael afton in the logbook
I’m not sure if you know this from someone else’s comment or not but the story dittophobia actually starts out in 1983 and extends for a whole 10 years so that kind of breaks where you think Afton robotics was established
Don't forget to take in consideration that details before sister location were retconned because people understood the lore so poorly
Hi sorry for the late comment but I love this timeline! It’s a repetitive comment but I think Schmidt might be the moms maiden name taken on by Micheal after their split (if there is a wife). We never hear Micheal actually be called Micheal Afton to my knowledge, but I’m not sure. Let me know what you think! :D
I like the timeline, I just have one question: You state it's confirmed that fnaf 3 is "30 years after the LAST Freddy Fazbear's closes". I could be wrong, but don't we just know it's 30 years after *A* Freddy's closes, not the last one? If you're familiar with Gibi's Good Ideas, bad Ideas he made the case that fnaf 3 could be in 2015, thus the year when the game came out
Also, Funtime Chica is my favorite character so you better do her right >:D
I have heard that argument before, and while I'm pretty sure it's 30 years since FNAF 1 specifically, it doesn't change anything if it's 30 years from 1985. It just means there's a shorter period of dead space between Sister Location and 3. Movie-esque Yellow Rabbit shouldn't need nearly 30 years to decay into Springtrap, and Michael doesn't need nearly 30 years to find another job, so just adjust the years around 2015 and it's the same story
Watching the video here are my thoghts
2:32 it's implied by FNaF 6/FFPS to be before
"a wound first inflicted on me that I let bleed out..."
4:10 Well, you chould argue that it's a bed and not a crib. Your explanation but according to the novels she dies at 6-ish Yeats old
8:15 NOT IN FNaF 1 he doesn't need to be a corpes for that as he tampered with the smelly corpes filled animatronics The logbook directly connects FNaF 1 to SL and a lesser point we only hear of 2 Mikes in the games them being the same is all but a strech
Movie Mike has 3 siblings like Michael both younger with they sister being the youngest
Freddy Fazbear's Pizza was founded in 1983. Security Breach Faz Token says hello.
I didn't know that detail. It doesn't change much though, just pin the First Freddy's a couple months before the Bite
While you made a few good points, a lot of this video is founded on misinformation, or at the very least a lack of information.
First of all, too many people seem to forget the fact that William got springlocked BEFORE FNaF 1, considering that Phone Guy was still alive when the safe rooms get sealed (which was only done to cover up William's "death" in the first place). Regardless of who the night guard is in FNaF 1, or which year it takes place in (turns out the minimum wage thing might have been miscalculated, so it might be 1992 instead of 1993), the concrete fact of the matter is that the classic animatronics were repaired and still possessed even after William "destroyed" them.
Second, Help Wanted 2 has now all but confirmed that the death order was MCI > Charlie > Crying Child. Plus, the Faz-Tokens state that Freddy Fazbear's Pizza itself first opened in 1983, likely very early in the year so that it had about 6 months of success first before the MCI occurred in late June and things began to snowball from there, eventually resulting in 7 dead kids in one year. HW2 provide further proof that these deaths were in 1983, so clearly putting too much weight into the words of separate book continuities when trying to discuss the games is not a good thing.
The Bite of '83 was likely not the specific reason that Fredbear's closed. Phone guy says that it was due to multiple and simultaneous springlock failures that made them deem the suits unsafe for employees. But springlock failures are caused when the endoskeletons snap from suit mode back into animatronic mode, and Fredbear was ALREADY in animatronic mode when the bite happened, meaning that realistically it shouldn't have had anything to do with the springlocks. He just... chomped. Instead, it's more likely that Fredbear's got shut down because some employees in the suits got springlocked to death not long after the bite.
HandUnit says that Circus Baby's only opened after the success and closing of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, but the only one that was lasted long enough to be successful was the original one, which (although struggling) stayed open for several years after the MCI, while no other location lasted more than a few weeks. Both Circus Baby's AND the FNaF 2 location are dependent on the original location shutting down first, but HandUnit only mentions one location, which leads me to believe that at the bare minimum, Circus Baby's Pizza World's only open day (including Elizabeth's death) and subsequent opening of the rental service all happened before FNaF 2, likely in early 1987.
This all begs the question then, how are the Funtime animatronics possessed? It's simple really, aside from Elizabeth, they never managed to kill any kids themselves, so William HAD to have manually injected them with Remnant before he got sealed away, presumably after he realized that Elizabeth possessed Baby. At this point, a new Freddy's location opened in late 1987, and William probably wanted to know if the same had happened to his previous victims, so he became the first night guard in order to access the animatronics. However, after a week of them trying to kill him, he transferred over to the day shift and probably figured that it'd be easier to just kill more kids and harvest Remnant that way, and THOSE kids became the Funtimes.
From there, Jeremy finishes his week in FNaF 2 while William is trying to deal with the now hostile Funtimes, at which point he gets Michael (who has probably turned 18 recently if he was around 14 or so when Crying Child died) a job down in the bunker, telling him to help his sister but probably expecting them to just kill him in William's place since they look similar. Michael gets scooped but survives after a week full of Ennard, then, in search of answers, has just enough time to get a guard job at the FNaF 2 location before it closes, but immediately gets fired before he can accomplish much. This explains how there's JUST enough of a window for everything to work while still allowing Michael to still be both Fritz Smith and Mike Schmidt and get fired for his corpse-y odor.
And yes, Michael is absolutely still both "Fritz" and "Mike" because of the Phantoms in FNaF 3. Clearly this protagonist encountered the cast from both previous locations in order to hallucinate about them in FNaF 3, plus it's been stated that their burned appearance matters, which would only be the case if our protagonist had a reason to view them as burned. Like, for example, if it were Michael trying to free the souls by setting the locations on fire after the fact.
I hope this didn't sound like I was bashing your theory, you clearly put effort into it, I just wanted to set the record straight as thoroughly as I could.
I've spoken on some of your points in other comments, so I won't reiterate everything here, but I wanna mention you state William was Springlocked after MCI and the Safe Room was sealed with him inside, yet he's still around for SAVE THEM in 1987. I know there's been media depicting William surviving a Springlock failure, but if he gets out of the failure shown in the games it negates the fact that Springtrap even exists for FNAF 3. You also state that the Funtimes don't kill anyone themselves, but between the Booking Schedule in ScottGames source code and FT Freddy's obviously used storage tank blueprint, I think it's safe to say they got some kills in and SAVE THEM is still the Toys. I've already made another comment saying the broken animatronic casings around Fazbear Fright is reason for Michael to see the Phantoms, especially considering some of the Phantoms' inaccuracies, like Phantom Freddy being reskinned FNAF2 Golden Freddy, or Phantom Foxy's missing hook. And while I agree FNAF 1 and 2 weren't "massive successes" like HandUnit says, that first restaurant's legacy is still there. I made the majority of that script in the days before HW2, so the new kill order was just something that didn't exist until after the video was finalized, so whoops on that I guess.
@@glytchbyte7727 "you state William was Springlocked after MCI and the Safe Room was sealed with him inside, yet he's still around for SAVE THEM in 1987."
This line was extremely confusing until I realized that you probably misunderstood what I said, so apologies. I meant that William got springlocked and sealed away BETWEEN FNaF 2 in 1987 and FNaF 1 in '92/'93, so of course he was still around for SAVE THEM. Remember that once the FNaF 2 location was closed down, the Withered animatronics were sent back to their original location, where William tried to destroy them in secret (presumably to try and harvest more remnant and/or destroy the evidence of his past crimes) but was confronted by the ghosts and springlocked, after which someone (likely Henry) found his body in the safe room and ordered that they all be sealed in order to cover it up, an event that Phone Guy lived long enough to know about before dying prior to FNaF 1 in the early 90's.
Thus, it's chronologically impossible for William's springlocking to occur outside of that 5-6 year window from November of 1987 to November of '92/'93, and while it could theoretically happen at any point during that span of time, it makes the most sense for it to happen asap, like early 1988 or maybe even December of 1987, basically right after the Withered animatronics are moved back to their original location and abandoned to rot for a while.
@@Luigifan305 The sealing of the Safe Room is documented on one of the training cassettes in FNAF 3, specifically after mentions of Spring Bonnie moving, meaning it would've happened between MCI and New and Improved for FNAF 2. It's most likely that the false wall was never finished before the First location closed, or it was ultimately torn down to keep the Springlock costumes in an actively watched establishment, since in FNAF 2's 6th Night Phone Guy says the suit that was used was "a yellow one." The FNAF 3 minigames place the Safe Room on the Northern wall of the Bathroom Hallway, where the camera is positioned in the corner facing South, so that false wall is never actually shown to be there in FNAF 1. We could realistically argue back and forth forever, but there's a detail I'll be bringing up in my next video that reinforces the FNAF 1 > SL > 3 timeline. You won't change my mind on this, so if I can't change your mind I encourage you to call me stupid and walk away. I've been wrong before, and while I don't think I'm wrong on this, if you think I am wrong it's perfectly possible.
How would you explain the phantom animatronics, which have designs from 1 and 2. If we go off of Fazbear Frights "What we found" springtrap causes hallucinations of what a person has seen before?
See my pinned comment, I elaborate on that as well as other points people have brought up
@@glytchbyte7727tbh don’t find your reason exactly flawless since most of the story nothing except for 4 ever shows or at least implied that Michael Afton was a customer to the animatronic restaurants, meaning that it can’t work with Michael Afton not being Fritz Smith and Mike Schmidt, most especially since the story called What We Found showed or at least hinted that one’s hallucinations were from one’s traumatic past, and with Michael Afton being under the two alias names of Fritz Smith and Mike Schmidt would had at least got trauma or some of it from the animatronics trying to kill him.
@@ethancurtsinger172 Considering Foxy doesn't exist at Fredbear's his mask needed to come from the First Freddy Fazbear's, clearing the Classic animatronics. While there's no solid proof he went to New & Improved as a customer, William is explicitly shown in SAVE THEM to still be around in '87, so his "going to come find you" motive doesn't exist in the few weeks the Toys aren't scraps in boxes. I think the biggest damning evidence is "Schmidt" in FNAF 1. Assuming Michael is the "brave volunteer" from Pizza Sim, we know firsthand that Henry has nothing against Michael, so Michael wouldn't need a fake last name to land a job in Freddy's. Him being an Afton would exclusively help him get hired by Henry, since they both hate William and would be willing to help each other in this cause.
didn't Willam make the funtimes and the bunker?
I think Henry is also a killer
Shouldnt William be dead by the fnaf 1 game as phone guy is alive to comment on the safe rooms being sealed
I commented on this in response to someone else, but there's no reason to believe the Safe Room is still sealed in FNAF 1. The false wall was being constructed following reports of Spring Bonnie's movements during MCI, and we know that the suit used in FNAF 2's SAVE THEM is "a yellow one." It's likely either the false wall was never finished or it was torn down to keep the Springlock suits in the active establishment in 1987. I plan on expanding the timeline a little more in my Funtime Chica video, and I have a segment following the locations of the Springlock costumes in my Yenndo video, so if you don't agree with me, we probably won't be changing each other's minds.
@@glytchbyte7727 I get this idea, and I much prefer sister location being later on in the time line like you have it, as the more futuristic/ Sci fi elements make more sense. But having to explain the safe room being blocked up, then unblocked and resealed it's just kinda unsatisfying, but I guess it's the same as the withereds being 'unwithered' and the freddys restaurant opening and closing like 5 times as some people interpret lol.
There is always the detail of the animatronics in 'Follow me' FNAF 3 minigames having buttons on their chests like the withereds though...
i don't understand one thing: in your timeline who are we playing as in fnaf 3 and why do the Animatronics attack the player?
Michael Afton, after the events of getting Scooped in Sister Location. As for the animatronics, Springtrap would be explicitly violent having the still-conscious body of a serial killer, and I elaborate more on the Phantoms in my pinned comment.
If we know for sure that Michael its the nightguard in fnaf3 then why is he even seeing the original animatronics as phantoms in the first place? If he never experienced fnaf2 and fnaf1 nights
Fazbear's Fright features the old casings for the Classic and Toy animatronics, so you don't need much of a history with the restaurants to imagine a broken Freddy wandering around when there's a broken Freddy 3 feet from the door.
@@glytchbyte7727 So you're saying that a random guy decided to work as the nightguard in this horror attraction before it even opened to the public? This makes 0 sense and gives the nightguard no motivation if you're saying it was a random guy
@@Fracc6578 No, I get I worded it weird, but I'm saying Michael was in Fazbear's Fright and doesn't need previous work experience to see the Phantoms.
wait, so are 2 Fredbears and 2 Springbonnies?
No, the first Freddy Fazbear's had "two specially designed Springlock suits" and I said it's most likely that the two suits were one of each character.
The animatronic lineup of the first Freddy Fazbear's Pizza would be:
Freddy, with multiple spares
Bonnie, with multiple spares
Chica, with multiple spares
Foxy, with multiple spares
One Fredbear costume
One Spring-Bonnie costume
The FNAF 4 minigames does show extra Springlock costumes, but that takes place at Fredbear's Family Diner.
What exactly were the fnaf 1 hallucinations then? It's me implies a connection.
I feel really bad hitting you with the "Stay Tuned!" but I am actually addressing that detail in my Yenndo video, so either wait until I elaborate on my opinion on that later, or just form your own opinion on it. Game Realization exists to challenge the current narrative, so I encourage you to challenge me whenever I may be wrong
@@glytchbyte7727 I now really wanna know how that connects
@@yourmajestysilveroftherats4609 "Stay Tuned!" I guess.
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