Very interesting and promising experiment so far! I hope the result is as expected because producing a high valued product from a dirt cheap product could really finance your entire lab forever! Even a small production line could produce good revenue to put towards continuing experiments. I think you are all doing great work and your ambitions of doing great things are true to heart.
I need to say more than wow but words fail me! Even if it turns out unviable then just the amazing mini sculpture artwork would be epic . Imagine hand carvings of Cnc artwork in this metallic look . 😮
It has a look of Iron Pyrite in those golden glints, iron sulfide mineral with formula FeS2 usually found in coal, we had lots of problems with it at the CEGB. Interesting project I look forward to your results, keep em coming.
If there is naturally occuring iron in the coal, adding HCL might convert the iron particles into Iron Chloride, which would act as a catalyst. Without needing to add anything to the coal except for a minor soak in HCL before putting into the oven
You are doing great work Robert, keep it up, there are very few people in your field who are as helpful as you are and the rest of us really appreciate and need your field of expertise to assist us, guys who like building things but only know for example mechanical engineering, so we can build any thing but we dont know the chemistry of the materials, thats were you come in. What is the conclusion about that battery that you printed that went into the electric scooter it looked very promising indeed?
Color change alone is exciting to see! Megaohms to ohms, my knees get weak, lol... Cheap process, no catalyst. It will be nice to say I knew the next Bill Gates, before the rest of the world. Should be a fast track from here. Can't wait to hear the results.
All the labcoats and suits always make it seem like neuroscience when they discuss this stuff. You on the other hand break everything down with this beautiful simplicity that just works. Its mind boggling, and hugely inspiring.
Really nice work Robert. I think if no catalysts are used and the colour change has happened and since it has turned into graphite, meaning it's structure has turned to crystalline format, then your process probably has to include high temp heating,in vacuum chamber. And if all I said above is correct then probably some applied pressure was also used. I might be wrong. But would be glad to hear if I am not. Cheers again mate for nice work. I am a fan of your work.
Hi Rob, just wanted to say that im greatful for all your hard work. I also wanted to tell you that I finally committed myself to follow in your footsteps. I agree when you say that we should do our own experiments, instead of always getting the solutions. Within the last couple of weeks, ive invested over 20k in almost all the lab equipment that you have. I am an Offshore Commercial Lobsterman for 20 plus years, but I will be retiring around January to help move this field forward. I have already been conducting some of my own experiments, and have some interesting results too. From paying close attention to your teachings, I have noticed that you sometimes leave out bits of important info. I imagine its because of trolls. One of them being, theres a particular scource of Graphite that you conduct most of your experiments on. I ordered about 50 Lbs of it, and am dying for it to get here. As long as it gets here with no issues, I plan to order 1 ton of it around Feburary. I will also want 1 KG, (or more if I can work out better price) of HOPG. Anyways, I hope you can find the time to send me an email address so that we can collaborate on future experiments. I plan on using Graphene for electrogravitics, but the experiments that wed be calaborating on, would be very similar. I will be using Graphene capacitors in my project as well. Maybe I can help relieve some of the pressure, and try this or that. Maybe you can help me by moving my shipment of Graphite along. Its only been a week, but ive sent 3 emails to him now, and he hasn't answered any of them. I know hes your buddy, and im hoping you got some pull. Anyways, keep up the good fight. Im here if you need anything on my end. codgod1@yahoo.com
looks beautiful. A bit like some ore I've got from Broken Hill. It was a mix of coal, silver, lead, tin and iron ores. Very silvery and shiny. I'm looking forward to more on this process.
I'm a coal miner, this is exciting! Imagine cheap graphite, leading to (hopefully) cheap graphene! Cheap super strong materials everywhere and at an economical price! What a great possibility! Also nice tomato plants in the background mate!
This is exactly what they need in Northern Territory Australia. Almost everything there closed down (including our workshop where I was working in). Would have experimented on these things if I was still there. They have mountains of coal stockpiled but nothing to use it for.
Stunning! I've got my fingers crossed for the analysis. However, if it's not what you're expecting, even more interesting, given that low resistance!!!
I just made my house smell like an old fashioned gas works... I now have all the windows and doors open to try to get rid of the sulphur smell!!! I took a tiny piece of coal, checked the resistance, couldn't get a reading, then microwaved it in my kitchen microwave. It took a while to heat up, but then started smoking, with all the usual sulphurous coal tar vapours. Luckily I put it in a beaker and put a larger one over the top, so only the beakers are covered in coal tar. Eventually I got fed up with the smoke, so stopped. Once everything had cooled down, the coal had lost loads of weight and looked more silvery. I checked the resistance again and I now get a reading below 30 ohms over a distance of a few mm. No idea whether it's graphite or whether I've converted any of the carbon or just that driving off the tar has left something more like coke. It didn't look as though it got hot enough to graphitize, no obvious bright spots like you get when you microwave graphite powder, unless some of the impurities acted as catalysts. At least it might have fumigated any bugs in the house ;)
I just noticed, the borosilicate beaker I used to contain the coal which I microwaved, has several cracks and has melted in one place under where the coal was located. The coal must have got very hot. There is also a silvery looking deposit on the microwave plate around the location of the melted part of the beaker. It is a ceramic plate with infinite resistance (as far as my AVO is concerned), but this deposit has a resistance of under 1M Ohm. I should have photo'd or video'd it.
An easy and cheap way to make Graphene: An ideal approach is to start with a sugar based surface that is polished extremely smooth. Any imperfections or ridges etc will cause shearing of the Graphene and it will separate. Apply graphite powder onto sugar surface and rub together lightly but thoroughly to enable bonding. Once that is done either honey or a sugary based syrup may be used on top of the rubbed graphite powders. By doing this you can cleave off excess graphite. Pour H2O2 on top of syrup or honey that was applied on top of graphite powder. Simply roll off excess water or suction off. Continue this process until just one or few layers of Graphene remain. Once down to a few layers you can roll the H2O2 under the Graphene thus removing it from the sugar substrate. Check my channel for video :P
+Virtual Reality. For a molten material, rapid cooling results in smaller crystals, whereas slow cooling allows larger crystals to form. For a non-molten material, rapid cooling is more likely to cause fracturing than is slow cooling. My guess would be that very slow cooling is the way to go, because it should leave more of any crystal structure intact.
ok, RWB, I guess your right about that, so therefore, it would be also good to see what size crystal, if any, would be the better way to go . Currently I am not doing any of these experiments, so anyone can try it also.
it takes time for larger crystals to grow, so I understand your comment, and I am now wondering why I expressed my comment that way, but still it would preserve at least one type of crystal structure
Yea! You guys are amazing. Coal ==> Graphite ==> Graphene ==> Building a Wonderful World for Everyone Say, did you get any word from the redo on the ballistic testing or are they still too dumbfounded to release the results? Seems every video you share inspires me to have more fun with my little projects. Oh, I almost forgot; I borrowed my brother's Vitamix to make some graphene in the water-acetone solution and I did't consider that the blender's jar is made from polycarbonate. Acetone and polycarbonate don't play well together. The blundering yet fun learning experience cost cost me $47 to replace my brother's part. I think Vitamix is a bit too proud of their parts (of course it amazes me that we yanks can still buy anything with our fiat greenbacks). Cheers.
I'm thinking seal up the soil heap, probably in that clay mixture of yours that you use for kilns. It acts as a sort of Geode and you can microwave that thing to crystallize the soil heap material. Because you said you use nothing to do it, so you're blasting the carbon that has a clay egg vacuum geode with microwaves maybe.
You took away the volatile from the coal with graphitization. Also the sulphur content has been lowerd. We are doing graphitization for over 30 years. We can supply very good electrographite in any quantity. We can make a large scale furnance for graphitization and turn almost any coal to graphite
that's cool you should do the graphite in sodium sulfate electrolysis and see be what you get if you get a quality graphene I'd say what ever else happens that would make this a big winner!
If you have turned coal into graphite could you then turn graphite into hi grade Graphene a win win. If you can then turn say something cheaper like calcium or sulphur etc into something better or like lithium. That would be icing on the cake. Love your thinking of using things around you and seeing what could be done with them.
Just a thought from someone who loves your programs and what you stand for- even though I do struggle to understand it sometimes- You certainly do stretch my mind ! -- looking at that beautiful piece of cleaned up coal made me wonder --Are you on your way to creating Diamonds ? :--)
That's fascinating, Robert. Thanks. I don't have any here, to work with, but how does that processed anthracite compare with coke in terms of resistivity, crystal structure and composition? It might be worthwhile sending samples of all three forms for analysis.
good stuff i used to work for a company that rewashed spoil heaps running the wash plant so i know theres gold in them there hills black gold that is .
amazing what a little curiosity & creativity can accomplish, hey? sounds like you could use a little powder x-ray diffraction to determine the crytalinity of that. if tou'd like i'll talk to my old university geology department & see if they'll run that for you.
Speaking of Catalysts, your carbon process's may be able to make room temp micro fuel cells. I think you should use your laser cutter to etch some channels in your grafoil and see if you can catalyze a reaction with methanol or other hydrocarbons. Maybe the use of your magnetic hydrogen bonded graphene will make for a good proton conductor. Hope to hear from you again soon
Very exciting, definitely looks graphitic. Are you using a high temperature process like regular synthetic graphite? Will be interesting to see the results of analysis, will you be getting pictures from electron microscopy?
hi Rob theirs some helpful comments on here, mine is a bit long winded but here goes im sensing your changing the molecular structure by burning off gases and other impurities and drawing them out with vacuum leaving you with maybe zinc or copper elements inside maybe i cant be sure so could you test using one large chunk of then cut it into four, use one of the quarters as your base(heat and vacuum)same as you have done, then one with just heat no vac , one with an acid wash first then heat and vac and finally last one with vac and a higher heat say 150 plus. im thinking this would with fine tuning the process and mite yield better results or not.
awesome suggestions mate - but the easiest might be just to get the elemental analysis done and find out what is in there rather than guessing then go from there
Robert, are you sealing the coal before you microwave it? That graphite is superb, I know you said there are tons of papers on Google Scholar, but I like your microwave method. Would you care to share the basic process of this?
Does it look like iron pyrite to anyone else? I know it shouldn't molecularly but it does have that look. The center test would be most interesting to see if it is a full molecular reconstruction or just a surface change. 12-24 hours is a fast for such dense material - even if it does have pourous layers.
Congrats! this is a nice work!! I just wonder and wanna ask that didn't you add any other chemical during your process? and whether could we say literally your process was done from carbon to graphite? or it must be coal? Sorry for my lacking knowledge! and thanks for your shared video
"turning diamonds into graphite" "but why"~leading economists though now that i think about it...turning coal into graphite...makes it easier to turn into artificial diamonds...
That's quite impressive. I was certain at the beginning of the vid that it was only affecting the surface or a mm or two deep inside the bigger chunks. Being wrong can be exciting. Did you happen to notice any obvious changes to shape or size before and after the process? If it is now graphite, the difference in density alone should have either reduced its overall size or made it noticeably more porous, yes?
Rewatched part 1. Sorry Robert I, for a moment, thought that "the process" was just popping the coal in a vacuum oven. Ok watching with interest:) when are you going to publish?
Robert, You mention sending your coal sample away for elemental analysis. Can you let me know where you send it and how much they charge for this service? I have some substances I would like to have identified. Regards, Martin
Try using some of it as an electrode in any electrochemical process that you know is hard on graphite and see how well it performs in comparison. Also what about when it is used as the susceptor in a microwave kiln, how well does it perform?
Hi Robert. Have you taken any before and after measurements of resistance on the same sample? Also what kind of variation are you getting sample to sample? It would be interesting to know the average ratio of before and after values. One last question, have you ground any of the processed lumps and made an ink out of them yet? If so, what kind of resistance per square are you getting is it better than existing methods you used?
Robert Murray-Smith: That's great, hope it eventually becomes a product either as a powder for users to mix their own or finished inks. My interests are in shielding of sensitive electronics, especially electric guitars and their pick-ups. But the applications are only limitted by the imagination. Wish you all the best and success for it.
I don't know if you can (or care to) answer this at the moment but I am curious as to what the "waste" products of your process might be? Probably more to the point, how hazardous or benign are they and could those byproducts be of use or easily neutralised if necessary? I suppose that what I'm really asking is: What, in your estimation, would the environmental impact of the process be and could it be mitigated if necessary?
Given what I've seen of your previous work I suspected as much but it's good to have that confirmation. Please keep up the good work. (I have a sneaking suspicion that you couldn't stop even if you thought you wanted to. lol)
You mad man haha, this is very exciting! Love how you mentioned Elon in the last video, have you seen his most recent appearance at TED? It's really a great watch.
i wanna know what the process is...i got plenty of coal, some of it i think is poor quality (not good for the forge) and could really do with some graphite (been using pencil leads from mechanical pencils...couldn't find just the leads so i got a pack of like 50 pencils)
you could make a gassifier and fuel it with the waste gass, run an electric generator or distill the fumes into petro, and then the "waste" left over in your reactor is what you are making.
Request: I very much am inspired by your videos. I want to begin to learn - if possible - how to print /use graphene for my own micro circuitry for a fun device. Any simple way? Thanks
No apology necessary, I was being mischievous but on the other hand it might be interesting to see how the calorific value has been affected. My home state (Victoria, Australia) is mostly brown coal and we used to burn brown coal briquettes (and char) for home heating (power generation still!). It would be interesting to know if your process would work on brown coal.
Robert Murray-Smith sorry I have been following you for awhile now and if I could be of help that would be excellent I really want to see this technology take of the faster the better.
Hi rob I hope you have turned coal into graphite. Will make battery a bit cheaper. Have you tried incorporating some of the coal into one of you batteries. ( I bet you have already done this.) Then we will know you have turned coal into graphite. I do hope the tests come back and you have turned coal into graphite and it is also of high purity and can be used in battery's.
If the product is too revolutionary - companies will not buy it. Simply, invisible authority will stop the development. What you can do is make something for yourself, something that will help you get cheaper energy or have other purpose. You don't even need to share the experience with anyone.. Help yourself instead of helping the world. Thus, you will help the world too.
i was thinking something similar - not the invisible authority bit - just inertia - but you are right and a product or two would be a good idea - i was thinking of a couple of things and will do vids if they work out
I don't think so first off if it was Robert would have had a heck of a time cutting the big lump in half. Second, the pictures shown in your link are glassy Black, not metallic silver.
You may be right. Have a look at this one, www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTHRACITE-COAL-ROCK-SPECIMEN-FOSSIL-FUEL-ROCK-7-8-oz-/351962299726?hash=item51f2967d4e:g:FvUAAOSw9GhYgoqA
well it's not diamond, lol. came accosted this paper, interesting read and check out what happens at temperature changes. add vacuum & electro-magnetic fields & you;ll have a adjustable recipe, www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~scsharip/IMR2.pdf Peace Out!
Sir, another video shows a salt water drop producing a voltage difference of 30mv on a very small piece of graphene film. Can you test it with salt water how much voltage difference this new thing produce? As the resistance is in ohms. reference link ua-cam.com/video/t2adoOnE0uU/v-deo.html
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Very interesting and promising experiment so far! I hope the result is as expected because producing a high valued product from a dirt cheap product could really finance your entire lab forever! Even a small production line could produce good revenue to put towards continuing experiments. I think you are all doing great work and your ambitions of doing great things are true to heart.
thank you mate and thank you for taking the time to say this
Anyone out there that doesn't just love this guy !!! ???? Amazing... flashes of brilliance.. a reason to stay alive !!! Cheers :) :) :)
U are great Mr. Smith..
lol - cheers mate
Well now at least if I get a lump of coal for Christmas, I will now be exceedingly happy! Ha! Fab work Robert and team!
lol - cheers mate
Omg, you're from Herne Bay. I live in Canterbury. I think my partner wants to come visit you. He's such a fan. 🤗🤗🤗
Beautiful work Rob! Congratulations!
cheers mate
I need to say more than wow but words fail me! Even if it turns out unviable then just the amazing mini sculpture artwork would be epic . Imagine hand carvings of Cnc artwork in this metallic look . 😮
it is a lovely looking material mate - one for the fwg museum lol
It has a look of Iron Pyrite in those golden glints, iron sulfide mineral with formula FeS2 usually found in coal, we had lots of problems with it at the CEGB. Interesting project I look forward to your results, keep em coming.
this could be massive robert.
simply awesome mate.
cheers mate
PLease sir wizard dont stop talking and spreading your magestic way of wizardary to us the little people!!
If there is naturally occuring iron in the coal, adding HCL might convert the iron particles into Iron Chloride, which would act as a catalyst. Without needing to add anything to the coal except for a minor soak in HCL before putting into the oven
Love your work, and your videos. Always interesting, and exciting!.
cheers mate
Good work Robert you are a super genius : )
lol - i'm not sure about that mate - but cheers
You are doing great work Robert, keep it up, there are very few people in your field who are as helpful as you are and the rest of us really appreciate and need your field of expertise to assist us, guys who like building things but only know for example mechanical engineering, so we can build any thing but we dont know the chemistry of the materials, thats were you come in.
What is the conclusion about that battery that you printed that went into the electric scooter it looked very promising indeed?
i still need to do an update on that mate -it's running fine - just not enough time in the day lol
Black Gold Rob.Thats what you got.Thanks for sharing
it is interesting stuff mate
Color change alone is exciting to see! Megaohms to ohms, my knees get weak, lol... Cheap process, no catalyst. It will be nice to say I knew the next Bill Gates, before the rest of the world. Should be a fast track from here. Can't wait to hear the results.
we will see mate - stuff always takes longer than you think lol
All the labcoats and suits always make it seem like neuroscience when they discuss this stuff. You on the other hand break everything down with this beautiful simplicity that just works. Its mind boggling, and hugely inspiring.
cheers mate - i don't think it is that hard to be honest - it really is accessible to everyone
Really nice work Robert. I think if no catalysts are used and the colour change has happened and since it has turned into graphite, meaning it's structure has turned to crystalline format, then your process probably has to include high temp heating,in vacuum chamber. And if all I said above is correct then probably some applied pressure was also used. I might be wrong. But would be glad to hear if I am not. Cheers again mate for nice work. I am a fan of your work.
I have certainly read quite a few papers where that has been the approach mate - glad you like the channel
Thank you, Robert and crew! Much appreciated! :)
cheers mate
Hi Rob, just wanted to say that im greatful for all your hard work. I also wanted to tell you that I finally committed myself to follow in your footsteps. I agree when you say that we should do our own experiments, instead of always getting the solutions. Within the last couple of weeks, ive invested over 20k in almost all the lab equipment that you have. I am an Offshore Commercial Lobsterman for 20 plus years, but I will be retiring around January to help move this field forward. I have already been conducting some of my own experiments, and have some interesting results too. From paying close attention to your teachings, I have noticed that you sometimes leave out bits of important info. I imagine its because of trolls. One of them being, theres a particular scource of Graphite that you conduct most of your experiments on. I ordered about 50 Lbs of it, and am dying for it to get here. As long as it gets here with no issues, I plan to order 1 ton of it around Feburary. I will also want 1 KG, (or more if I can work out better price) of HOPG. Anyways, I hope you can find the time to send me an email address so that we can collaborate on future experiments. I plan on using Graphene for electrogravitics, but the experiments that wed be calaborating on, would be very similar. I will be using Graphene capacitors in my project as well. Maybe I can help relieve some of the pressure, and try this or that. Maybe you can help me by moving my shipment of Graphite along. Its only been a week, but ive sent 3 emails to him now, and he hasn't answered any of them. I know hes your buddy, and im hoping you got some pull. Anyways, keep up the good fight. Im here if you need anything on my end. codgod1@yahoo.com
looks beautiful. A bit like some ore I've got from Broken Hill. It was a mix of coal, silver, lead, tin and iron ores. Very silvery and shiny. I'm looking forward to more on this process.
cheers mate - i've got a couple coming up when i get a chance to make them
I'm a coal miner, this is exciting! Imagine cheap graphite, leading to (hopefully) cheap graphene! Cheap super strong materials everywhere and at an economical price! What a great possibility! Also nice tomato plants in the background mate!
lol - summer is coming mate - i always grow my own
Me too, it's autumn here in Australia and I grow mine over the winter, going the Black Russians and rouge de marmande tomatoes.
we live near the biggest grower of toms in europe but the price is still high - i'm a cheapskate mate and they taste better lol
Cannot compare the taste! Cheers Robert
His tomato plants are bigger than mine.
This reminds me of phonon resonance transmutation stuff I have come across. Coolest stuff you do, Rob.
Please go on...
I did.
'Green' playlist bookmarked.
absolutely superb !
cheers mate
This is exactly what they need in Northern Territory Australia. Almost everything there closed down (including our workshop where I was working in). Would have experimented on these things if I was still there. They have mountains of coal stockpiled but nothing to use it for.
that is such a shame mate
Stunning! I've got my fingers crossed for the analysis. However, if it's not what you're expecting, even more interesting, given that low resistance!!!
absolutely
Have you tried intercalating and microwaving it?
nope
I just made my house smell like an old fashioned gas works... I now have all the windows and doors open to try to get rid of the sulphur smell!!!
I took a tiny piece of coal, checked the resistance, couldn't get a reading, then microwaved it in my kitchen microwave. It took a while to heat up, but then started smoking, with all the usual sulphurous coal tar vapours. Luckily I put it in a beaker and put a larger one over the top, so only the beakers are covered in coal tar.
Eventually I got fed up with the smoke, so stopped. Once everything had cooled down, the coal had lost loads of weight and looked more silvery. I checked the resistance again and I now get a reading below 30 ohms over a distance of a few mm. No idea whether it's graphite or whether I've converted any of the carbon or just that driving off the tar has left something more like coke. It didn't look as though it got hot enough to graphitize, no obvious bright spots like you get when you microwave graphite powder, unless some of the impurities acted as catalysts.
At least it might have fumigated any bugs in the house ;)
I just noticed, the borosilicate beaker I used to contain the coal which I microwaved, has several cracks and has melted in one place under where the coal was located. The coal must have got very hot. There is also a silvery looking deposit on the microwave plate around the location of the melted part of the beaker. It is a ceramic plate with infinite resistance (as far as my AVO is concerned), but this deposit has a resistance of under 1M Ohm.
I should have photo'd or video'd it.
"My God mate!"...I can hardly believe it...When can we expect the characterization analysis results?..My mind is racing!
An easy and cheap way to make Graphene:
An ideal approach is to start with a sugar based surface that is polished extremely smooth. Any imperfections or ridges etc will cause shearing of the Graphene and it will separate. Apply graphite powder onto sugar surface and rub together lightly but thoroughly to enable bonding. Once that is done either honey or a sugary based syrup may be used on top of the rubbed graphite powders. By doing this you can cleave off excess graphite. Pour H2O2 on top of syrup or honey that was applied on top of graphite powder. Simply roll off excess water or suction off. Continue this process until just one or few layers of Graphene remain. Once down to a few layers you can roll the H2O2 under the Graphene thus removing it from the sugar substrate.
Check my channel for video :P
awesome - already did mate - nice work
If you heat it up, maybe rapid cool down would preserve the crystal structure better.
give it a go and see mate
+Virtual Reality. For a molten material, rapid cooling results in smaller crystals, whereas slow cooling allows larger crystals to form. For a non-molten material, rapid cooling is more likely to cause fracturing than is slow cooling. My guess would be that very slow cooling is the way to go, because it should leave more of any crystal structure intact.
ok, RWB, I guess your right about that, so therefore, it would be also good to see what size crystal, if any, would be the better way to go . Currently I am not doing any of these experiments, so anyone can try it also.
it takes time for larger crystals to grow, so I understand your comment, and I am now wondering why I expressed my comment that way, but still it would preserve at least one type of crystal structure
Yea! You guys are amazing. Coal ==> Graphite ==> Graphene ==> Building a Wonderful World for Everyone
Say, did you get any word from the redo on the ballistic testing or are they still too dumbfounded to release the results? Seems every video you share inspires me to have more fun with my little projects.
Oh, I almost forgot; I borrowed my brother's Vitamix to make some graphene in the water-acetone solution and I did't consider that the blender's jar is made from polycarbonate. Acetone and polycarbonate don't play well together. The blundering yet fun learning experience cost cost me $47 to replace my brother's part. I think Vitamix is a bit too proud of their parts (of course it amazes me that we yanks can still buy anything with our fiat greenbacks). Cheers.
lol - awesome mate - i had to buy a glass version - i should have said - sorry it never occured to me - the plastics are still ongoing mate
I'm thinking seal up the soil heap, probably in that clay mixture of yours that you use for kilns. It acts as a sort of Geode and you can microwave that thing to crystallize the soil heap material. Because you said you use nothing to do it, so you're blasting the carbon that has a clay egg vacuum geode with microwaves maybe.
The anticipation is palpable.
awesome lol
You took away the volatile from the coal with graphitization. Also the sulphur content has been lowerd. We are doing graphitization for over 30 years. We can supply very good electrographite in any quantity. We can make a large scale furnance for graphitization and turn almost any coal to graphite
that's cool you should do the graphite in sodium sulfate electrolysis and see be what you get if you get a quality graphene I'd say what ever else happens that would make this a big winner!
awesome idea mate cheers
Who would've thought the microwave could be so handy
every lab should have one mate
Looks really cool
cheers mate
If you have turned coal into graphite could you then turn graphite into hi grade Graphene a win win. If you can then turn say something cheaper like calcium or sulphur etc into something better or like lithium. That would be icing on the cake. Love your thinking of using things around you and seeing what could be done with them.
cheers mate
I just hope that no-one patents good ideas like this and turning it into a monopoly, then capitalising on the prices that they set.
they can try mate but it an exercise in futility if they do
Just a thought from someone who loves your programs and what you stand for- even though I do struggle to understand it sometimes- You certainly do stretch my mind ! -- looking at that beautiful piece of cleaned up coal made me wonder --Are you on your way to creating Diamonds ? :--)
one of things i love about the stuff i do mate is you never know what you are going to find - cheers
That's fascinating, Robert. Thanks. I don't have any here, to work with, but how does that processed anthracite compare with coke in terms of resistivity, crystal structure and composition? It might be worthwhile sending samples of all three forms for analysis.
good stuff i used to work for a company that rewashed spoil heaps running the wash plant so i know theres gold in them there hills black gold that is .
where there's muck there's money mate - the Yorkshire man in me coming out lol
Hi. Nice work.
Did you test the Ohms in the center of that large coal you cut in half.?
ys mate - same reading
That's good. Can't wait until your lab results for what's it's makeup is.
me neither lol - just organising that now mate
amazing what a little curiosity & creativity can accomplish, hey? sounds like you could use a little powder x-ray diffraction to determine the crytalinity of that. if tou'd like i'll talk to my old university geology department & see if they'll run that for you.
awesome mate a of XRD is certainly needed
Speaking of Catalysts, your carbon process's may be able to make room temp micro fuel cells. I think you should use your laser cutter to etch some channels in your grafoil and see if you can catalyze a reaction with methanol or other hydrocarbons. Maybe the use of your magnetic hydrogen bonded graphene will make for a good proton conductor. Hope to hear from you again soon
interesting ideas mate - cheers
Very exciting, definitely looks graphitic. Are you using a high temperature process like regular synthetic graphite?
Will be interesting to see the results of analysis, will you be getting pictures from electron microscopy?
I think I am probably going to have to mate - it would good to see the structure
hi Rob theirs some helpful comments on here, mine is a bit long winded but here goes im sensing your changing the molecular structure by burning off gases and other impurities and drawing them out with vacuum leaving you with maybe zinc or copper elements inside maybe i cant be sure so could you test using one large chunk of then cut it into four, use one of the quarters as your base(heat and vacuum)same as you have done, then one with just heat no vac , one with an acid wash first then heat and vac and finally last one with vac and a higher heat say 150 plus. im thinking this would with fine tuning the process and mite yield better results or not.
awesome suggestions mate - but the easiest might be just to get the elemental analysis done and find out what is in there rather than guessing then go from there
Robert, are you sealing the coal before you microwave it? That graphite is superb, I know you said there are tons of papers on Google Scholar, but I like your microwave method. Would you care to share the basic process of this?
Does it look like iron pyrite to anyone else? I know it shouldn't molecularly but it does have that look. The center test would be most interesting to see if it is a full molecular reconstruction or just a surface change. 12-24 hours is a fast for such dense material - even if it does have pourous layers.
it's silver - pyrite is gold - I tested the center - same as the surface - did i not say that? Sorry if I didn't.
Very coal Bob, very coal! I mean Cool. LOL
lol - cheers mate
That was a mighty fine vacuum oven yawl got there I tell you what.
things are getting much more lab like aren't they lol
Yeah like I'm not that jealous..well maybe a bit...One thing I had a vacuum oven 12 years ago...not as flashy as your that's for sure
lol
Isn't the only thing that you did to it is heated it in a vacuum oven?
Enjoyed the video guys. Any thoughts on using graphene in glass production?
not until now lol - cheers mate
Congrats! this is a nice work!!
I just wonder and wanna ask that didn't you add any other chemical during your process? and whether could we say literally
your process was done from carbon to graphite? or it must be coal?
Sorry for my lacking knowledge! and thanks for your shared video
nothing else was added - i don't know if it would work with other carbons as i have only done coal but i can give it a go and see
"turning diamonds into graphite"
"but why"~leading economists
though now that i think about it...turning coal into graphite...makes it easier to turn into artificial diamonds...
yeah maybe
That's quite impressive. I was certain at the beginning of the vid that it was only affecting the surface or a mm or two deep inside the bigger chunks. Being wrong can be exciting. Did you happen to notice any obvious changes to shape or size before and after the process? If it is now graphite, the difference in density alone should have either reduced its overall size or made it noticeably more porous, yes?
noticeably more porous but the process will have resulted in the loss of some material - i will know more when the results of the analyisis comes back
So how long until you change the world Robert?
week after next mate - lol - i wish!
I worked in construction for a while after secondary school and our reply when asked when we'd be finished was always, "Two weeks."
You already have changed the world Bob,
Rewatched part 1. Sorry Robert I, for a moment, thought that "the process" was just popping the coal in a vacuum oven. Ok watching with interest:) when are you going to publish?
after i have verified the results mate
From coal mining family even further North you, how did this progress? I've looked through the back catalogue but can't see anything
WOW!!
lol - It's beautiful stuff mate
Robert, You mention sending your coal sample away for elemental analysis. Can you let me know where you send it and how much they charge for this service? I have some substances I would like to have identified.
Regards,
Martin
i just look up a lab on the net mate and send it to the first one that gets back to me
I bought a power supply and ordered some lab grade sodium sulfate. I'm sure you are already testing but I would love to help.
Try using some of it as an electrode in any electrochemical process that you know is hard on graphite and see how well it performs in comparison. Also what about when it is used as the susceptor in a microwave kiln, how well does it perform?
dunno - but i think i will go with the course i laid out mate - but cheers
Is this process that you've mentioned the drying in the vacuum oven or sth else?
I'd be happy to test some for ya.
what kind of test mate?
Hi Robert.
Have you taken any before and after measurements of resistance on the same sample?
Also what kind of variation are you getting sample to sample?
It would be interesting to know the average ratio of before and after values.
One last question, have you ground any of the processed lumps and made an ink out of them yet?
If so, what kind of resistance per square are you getting is it better than existing methods you used?
yes mate - of course it drops from around 4 Mohm to around 1 ohm on average
Robert Murray-Smith: That's great, hope it eventually becomes a product either as a powder for users to mix their own or finished inks.
My interests are in shielding of sensitive electronics, especially electric guitars and their pick-ups.
But the applications are only limitted by the imagination.
Wish you all the best and success for it.
I don't know if you can (or care to) answer this at the moment but I am curious as to what the "waste" products of your process might be? Probably more to the point, how hazardous or benign are they and could those byproducts be of use or easily neutralised if necessary? I suppose that what I'm really asking is: What, in your estimation, would the environmental impact of the process be and could it be mitigated if necessary?
it's a pretty clean process mate
Given what I've seen of your previous work I suspected as much but it's good to have that confirmation. Please keep up the good work. (I have a sneaking suspicion that you couldn't stop even if you thought you wanted to. lol)
lol - it is a bit of a passion mate
cooking coal neat stuff
You mad man haha, this is very exciting! Love how you mentioned Elon in the last video, have you seen his most recent appearance at TED? It's really a great watch.
i'll have to give that a watch lol
cheers rms! You guys are prolific! Is this a hydrothermal route?
there are lots of routes mate - google scholar will point out a few very interesting ones
How much energy does the process use? The Acheson process doesn't use a catalyst either, but makes up for it by using lots and lots of electricity.
it doesn't use nearly as much as that
Awesome!!
How about whitby jet? If all else fails you could maybe use the process to turn black jet into fantastic jewels?
now there's a thought lol
Talk to us about how to dope graphene to increase conductivity
ok will do
i wanna know what the process is...i got plenty of coal, some of it i think is poor quality (not good for the forge) and could really do with some graphite (been using pencil leads from mechanical pencils...couldn't find just the leads so i got a pack of like 50 pencils)
check out google scholar there are loads of ways of doing this
its most likely off gassing the hydrogen compounds. you are essentially gassifying it. the waste from that process can be burned.
fair enough
you could make a gassifier and fuel it with the waste gass, run an electric generator or distill the fumes into petro, and then the "waste" left over in your reactor is what you are making.
a wood gassifier should work
i could mate - if it was acting like that - but to be honest you are making an assumption and going with it - but that's fair enough by me
Hi can you provide us with the methodology/ your process
When you pass an electronic current through this does it change it's molecular structure?
no idea mate
Request:
I very much am inspired by your videos.
I want to begin to learn - if possible - how to print /use graphene for
my own micro circuitry for a fun device.
Any simple way?
Thanks
i dunno mate - sorry
WOW!
lol - cheers
So pencils are metallic grey, are they graphite crystilline carbon also?
yes but it is mixed with clay as a binder - it is also what controls the hardness of the pencil
I know this isn't the purpose of the conversion but are the burning qualities of the new substance? Have you created a better burning coal?
sorry mate - i have no idea - but i can test it for that
No apology necessary, I was being mischievous but on the other hand it might be interesting to see how the calorific value has been affected. My home state (Victoria, Australia) is mostly brown coal and we used to burn brown coal briquettes (and char) for home heating (power generation still!). It would be interesting to know if your process would work on brown coal.
I don't think i can get that here in the UK mate
Hi rob what would happen if you use the same proses on existing graphite could you improve on its purity.?
dunno mate i guess i could try it
are you going to turn any of this into graphene so you can test yourself how good a graphite material it is?
yes - when i am ready
Robert burn both the coal and your potential graphite, that will give a good indication for sure
ok mate - cheers
You super heated it in a kiln
as I mentioned before I was looking for lump graphite to make graphene I'm wondering if this wouldn't fill the need.
dunno mate - i plan on doing the tests to find out what exactly i have first though if that's ok
Robert Murray-Smith sorry I have been following you for awhile now and if I could be of help that would be excellent I really want to see this technology take of the faster the better.
Robert Murray-Smith it funny though after watching your videos I started looking for coal mines near me!
it takes time mate
awesome lol
would you class this as annealed coal?
i wouldn't class it as anything yet mate - we still have quite a bit of work to do
Hi rob I hope you have turned coal into graphite. Will make battery a bit cheaper. Have you tried incorporating some of the coal into one of you batteries. ( I bet you have already done this.) Then we will know you have turned coal into graphite. I do hope the tests come back and you have turned coal into graphite and it is also of high purity and can be used in battery's.
I have tried it mate - it works fine - i also tried it as a supercapacitor - that works too - i am planning a couple of follow up vids on this
That's awesome waiting in anticipation!
SHIT!!how long must I wait till part3...this looks awesome
working on part 3 now mate lol
awesome,I can't wait to see it.keep up the great work Robert
cheers mate
hmm so cool if it is good graphite. my quick rubbish guess would be heat the coal in a furnace with no oxygen and using charcoal brickets? lol
lol - not quite that simple mate - but give it a go
Try coal bricks I think might come closer . I am going too🤗
Autoclave over night? ;)
give it a go
awesome go for it
i'd buy a 6 ohm graphite powder! (5 micron?)
I do have it for sale.
awesome
If the product is too revolutionary - companies will not buy it. Simply, invisible authority will stop the development. What you can do is make something for yourself, something that will help you get cheaper energy or have other purpose. You don't even need to share the experience with anyone.. Help yourself instead of helping the world. Thus, you will help the world too.
i was thinking something similar - not the invisible authority bit - just inertia - but you are right and a product or two would be a good idea - i was thinking of a couple of things and will do vids if they work out
Looks like nongraphitizable glassy (vitreous) carbon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glassy_carbon
I don't think so first off if it was Robert would have had a heck of a time cutting the big lump in half. Second, the pictures shown in your link are glassy Black, not metallic silver.
it cut very easily with a standard hacksaw blade
Then it could not be vitreous carbon. Cheers.
You may be right. Have a look at this one, www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTHRACITE-COAL-ROCK-SPECIMEN-FOSSIL-FUEL-ROCK-7-8-oz-/351962299726?hash=item51f2967d4e:g:FvUAAOSw9GhYgoqA
Goes this modified coal still burn?
yes
The soot off of this coal might be very special.
yeah maybe
cool
low cost diamond
indeed
I like your videos firstly, your proses is producing heavy emissions? So cleaning that emissions is a costly process.
no heavy emissions
well it's not diamond, lol. came accosted this paper, interesting read and check out what happens at temperature changes. add vacuum & electro-magnetic fields & you;ll have a adjustable recipe, www.personal.rdg.ac.uk/~scsharip/IMR2.pdf Peace Out!
awesome mate - cheers
woop woop first
lol - congrats
Sir, another video shows a salt water drop producing a voltage difference of 30mv on a very small piece of graphene film. Can you test it with salt water how much voltage difference this new thing produce? As the resistance is in ohms.
reference link
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yep - no worries
Your arrogance is well-earned.