Boeing 307 Stratoliner: Short documentary

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • Uncover the journey of the Boeing 307 Stratoliner, an aviation marvel that reshaped the world of commercial air travel. Our video essay delves into the genesis, design, innovation, and enduring legacy of this revolutionary aircraft. Understand how this technological marvel took flight in the 1930s and paved the way for high-altitude passenger air travel, with its innovative pressurized cabin, transforming the way we fly today.
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    Thanks for watching.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 564

  • @francisflood8921
    @francisflood8921 11 місяців тому +21

    I have one of the Sterling silver medalions given to passengers who flew on the Stratoliner for TWA. back in the 1940's

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Truly a beautiful aircraft

    • @Tommyhearnsrighthand
      @Tommyhearnsrighthand 11 місяців тому +3

      My uncle worked for boeing for 30 something years, he died in 2020. He left me his watches and all the boeing merch and memorabilia as I was the only one who ever showed interest in that stuff I guess. His daughters (my cousins) are great but couldn't have cared less lol. There is a bunch of things like that though medallions and pins and pens and clocks and bits and pieces going right back to the 50s

    • @tango22ah
      @tango22ah 3 місяці тому

      That’s very cool

  • @jonsavelle1122
    @jonsavelle1122 11 місяців тому +29

    Nice job. The Stratoliner on display in the National Air and Space Museum was restored by volunteers at Boeing here in Seattle. But they had to restore it twice. After first finishing the job, the plane was on a test flight over Puget Sound when it ran out of fuel. The pilot skillfully ditched in Elliott Bay, in shallow water just off of West Seattle. The plane was recovered and and returned to Boeing, where the same volunteers fixed it again. Then it was flown to Washington, D.C.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +3

      Very cool! Thanks for the info and thanks for watching 🫡🫡

    • @bj-th7ul
      @bj-th7ul 9 місяців тому +1

      (rebuild test fight) "the plane was on a test flight over Puget Sound when it ran out of fuel"... some may be interested in understanding that the plane ran out of fuel because the flight crew was troubleshooting a landing gear extension malfunction... a very unfortunate accident. thanks for sharing, enjoy

    • @roberthartmaier6643
      @roberthartmaier6643 9 місяців тому +2

      The volunteers who restored the B-307 were not "at Boeing". They were volunteers at the Museum of Flight, which is manned by a lot of active and retired Boeing employees, but is separate from the Boeing Company.

    • @peteranninos2506
      @peteranninos2506 Місяць тому

      They didn’t check the fuel level and ran out of gas minutes into the flight. Gross incompetence. The FAA report is quite harsh.

  • @billolsen4360
    @billolsen4360 11 місяців тому +26

    Being able to fly over most serious storms with the pressurized cabin was a great step forward for crews and passengers.

  • @geoh7777
    @geoh7777 11 місяців тому +8

    I'm almost as old as the Boeing 307 airliner and had never heard of it and it's advances in passenger aircraft technology.
    Thanks for airing this documentary.

  • @paoloviti6156
    @paoloviti6156 11 місяців тому +10

    Without any discussion the Boing 307 Stratoliner showed us all the road to fly high. A beautiful moment of aviation history ❤️

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +2

      Your perspective is awesome and very correct. Thank you sir 🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @gilzor9376
    @gilzor9376 11 місяців тому +20

    Great point to emphasize the the pressurized cabin. This is an underrated achievement that the Stratoliner accomplished.
    As history in general is a necessary foundation for any subject, aviation history is not only interesting, but for the future of aviation, the wealth of knowledge available is most helpful for those interested in the advancement of the field. To know the obstacles that were overcome, gives one the confidence that the seemingly impossible today, surely can be achieved.
    Nice job putting this documentary together. Keep at it, I'm sure you will find success.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much. Honestly I didn’t this this was the first pressurized airliner. I had to do a double check. Your are right, thanks for the amazing comment

  • @wunexec
    @wunexec 11 місяців тому +21

    Music has “blips” throughout. Information is great but constantly having sound issues.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +5

      Thank you and sorry for the tech inconveniences

    • @chrispaw1
      @chrispaw1 11 місяців тому +4

      @@dontdeletehistoryits fine for me 👌🏽

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +2

      @@chrispaw1 love that🫡. Thank you

    • @jst7714
      @jst7714 11 місяців тому +1

      I think that was just the background music, sort of “techno”. The music skips but the narration does not.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +2

      @@jst7714yes, you’re right. The skipping is the rhythm

  • @yettobseen
    @yettobseen 11 місяців тому +3

    As much as I flown over 60yrs I’ve not heard of this craft. And I love learning new things about thing that I’m truly interested in. So thank so much for this. JCW

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      🫡🫡💪🏽💪🏽. I appreciate you watching but I even more happy that you have discovered a new craft 🫡

  • @andrewdoubtfire4700
    @andrewdoubtfire4700 11 місяців тому +3

    Surely the inspiration for Thunderbird 2?

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      Mhmmm. I’ll look into the Thunder bird 🦅

  • @JasSta76
    @JasSta76 11 місяців тому +13

    Reading the other comments, I've no tech insights or personal historical gems to share, I just absolutely love the 307 Stratoliner. The Phat-ness, chunkiness of its looks (I've heard the term 'beautifully ugly'!) and not forgetting its 'firsts'. It would've been a nice ride with that cozy interior. And beds! The kinda stuff modern gear is starting to emulate again now. Great lil vid on a mean old school cruiser 👍👍

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +2

      It would have really nice to ride on one of these. Thank you 🫡🫡. You are right a lot of new designs have a retro futuristic touch.

    • @luislaplume8261
      @luislaplume8261 10 місяців тому

      The closest plane to the Stratocaster of 1938 til 1940 today is the Airbus 380 from Europe.

  • @petesellers1694
    @petesellers1694 11 місяців тому +3

    Air Vietnam had one of these flying out of Saigon in the middle 1960`s. Just another of the many different aircraft on display at that time. Busy place.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Incredible, I had no clue. One more research point. Thank you 🙏🏽 🫡

  • @ivanleterror9158
    @ivanleterror9158 11 місяців тому +5

    IMHO the Lockheed Constellation was the most beautiful piston driven airliner ever built.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      The construction was amazing 🤩

    • @pmullins1495
      @pmullins1495 11 місяців тому

      Yes the Super Constellation was a very SEXY looking aircraft . She had 'sex appeal'. 😂

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@pmullins1495 correct

    • @ivanleterror9158
      @ivanleterror9158 11 місяців тому

      @@pmullins1495 If I'm right it was Air Force 1 at the time.

    • @maskedavenger2578
      @maskedavenger2578 3 місяці тому

      The Connie was the most beautiful airliner ever built full stop . I even bought a die cast model of one ,because I like looking at it .

  • @wilkoenig6887
    @wilkoenig6887 11 місяців тому +2

    The 307 is by far my favorite early commercial airliner designs and innovation leaders…an elegant airplane…the advent of war and time foreshortened its presence and influenced many future airliners…

  • @None-zc5vg
    @None-zc5vg 11 місяців тому +4

    The '307" originally had the small tailplane surfaces of the early-model 'B-17' bomber from which it was derived. The small amount of fin-area proved to cause the plane's rudder to 'lock' into a position that left the pilots unable to recover control from the plane's resultant spin, and the prototype and its crew/oassengers were lost in a fatal crash because of this design flaw.
    The '307's seen in these clips show the modified tailplane features that resemble those incorporated into later-production 'B-17' bombers, and the significantly-larger fin/rudder structures prevented any more loss-of-control problems

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Mhmmm. Your on top on it. Thank you sooo much for the information ℹ️ 🫡🫡🫡🫡

    • @wallochdm1
      @wallochdm1 11 місяців тому +3

      My grandfather was scheduled to be on that flight, but was sick. After that crash, Boeing management never flew together and rarely took test or demo flights. I'm pretty sure that they had let a KLM pilot fly the 307 and his maneuvers exceeded the plane's capabilities /deficiencies as mentioned in your post.

  • @trainman9119
    @trainman9119 11 місяців тому +4

    The narrator is incorrect about speed (188 mph) of the 307. Should have stated 190 knots (or around 220 mph).

  • @mikedietrich8356
    @mikedietrich8356 11 місяців тому +5

    I love anything regarding early commercial aviation, great videos. Can't wait to see more.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Thank you soo much your amazing 🫡🫡🤩

    • @dmitryche8905
      @dmitryche8905 11 місяців тому +1

      the largest piston civil aircraft was the Bristol Type 167 Brabazon

  • @claytonpozzer
    @claytonpozzer 5 місяців тому +1

    Excelent video! Congratulations from Brazil!!

  • @jimtongue5361
    @jimtongue5361 11 місяців тому +13

    Well done; so well presented. Hope you do many more

  • @RaptorFromWeegee
    @RaptorFromWeegee 3 місяці тому

    Fascinated by the commonality between various Boeing aircraft through the ages. Like the 247 passed on aspects of itself to the 307 which provided a template for development of the B-17, small bits of which went into B-29, then the Stratocruiser, the B-47, the 347-80, the 707 and beyond.
    Remember reading a pilots biography of his long and storied career. Said, during his first go at the 747, that several parts in the cockpit were the same as the B-17s he flew during the war. Something about the rudder pedals.

  • @user-xj6rr3yv8q
    @user-xj6rr3yv8q 2 місяці тому +1

    Allow me to raise my hand here, "the bends" is from an increase in pressure, is never an issue with a 'decompression' event in a aircraft. Can we mention that Boeing made 10 total airframes?

  • @600322
    @600322 11 місяців тому

    thanks for making it short.Several other clips are on the wait list to be viewed.I also will thank you for making these facts usable for blind persons who are not able to read wikipedia!

  • @gerardmoran9560
    @gerardmoran9560 11 місяців тому +6

    Great video! Recently retired Delta captain here. I only flew the Boeings- 72,73,75 & 76. Almost made the 77 but not quite. Cheers

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      🫡🫡🫡. How was the experience flying the Boeings?

    • @jamesalexander3530
      @jamesalexander3530 11 місяців тому +1

      I applied with Delta but rejected cause I wore a small beard (1980s) But EAL hired me right away as ground crew. I would have preferred DAL since EAL went bankrupt soon there after.

    • @gerardmoran9560
      @gerardmoran9560 11 місяців тому

      @@dontdeletehistory I loved it. I started on the 72 and coming from the C-141 it was like going back to the stone age. It was very fast, but the cockpit was noisy (aerodynamic noise) and the systems simple but reliable. The 72 was a well-engineered airplane but primitive compared the Lockheed 141. The 73 was a bit more advanced, fun and easy to fly. The 75/76 was a blast. Flying different models the same day kept it interesting and the 75 was pure joy.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@gerardmoran9560 I have actually been in a c 141 cockpit, the cockpit it tiny.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@gerardmoran9560 mennn! You have a very extensive history and amazing and amazing experiences. I’m so happy for you

  • @Robutube1
    @Robutube1 10 місяців тому

    A beautiful aeroplane. You told its story very well; thanks for furthering my knowledge!

  • @jamesfox6245
    @jamesfox6245 11 місяців тому +8

    You have great skills as a narrator. I enjoy aviation history. You present this well - even though there is limited archival footage available.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much. I hope you find more interesting topic on my channel and yesssss it’s hard to find archived footage.

    • @76629online
      @76629online 11 місяців тому

      Surely you jest.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@76629online 🤔

  • @rustyheckler8766
    @rustyheckler8766 11 місяців тому +1

    Clear, concise and to the point; great job!

  • @rogerrees9845
    @rogerrees9845 6 місяців тому

    Lovely plane.... lovely documentary... thank you.... Roger... Pembrokeshire UK

  • @MrMopar413
    @MrMopar413 11 місяців тому +2

    I never knew of that airplane, till now. That was a good looking airplane. Another point you brought up that I never really thought about during rapid decompression is the bends . That could really mess with people and the flight crew. I was thinking about that Cessna Citation crash in Washington DC. That happened at a reported 35,000 ft. Even if you make it out of it to a lower altitude your mind or mental facilities might not be all there. Then try to land a crippled airplane.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      I’m happy you got to find out about this wonderful airplane. Your right, Decomposing is a very scary difficult issue to deal it.

  • @luislaplume8261
    @luislaplume8261 10 місяців тому

    Hard to beleive that as late as 1975 we still had a passenger plane that had indirect lightbulbs instead of florescent lights as was seen by me in Flushing, Queens, NYC near La Guardia Airport from 1961 ti 1964 when we moved to another neighborhood in Queens. The new subway trains had florescent lights while the old Pre World War 2 subway trains had incandescent light bulbs on the ceiling. 😊

  • @wilburfinnigan2142
    @wilburfinnigan2142 11 місяців тому +1

    The Boeing 307 was a new revolunary plane first pressurised air liner with 3 engines lead the way for the modern 4 engine airliner, a good solid plane that came at the wrong time, WWII Started and it paved the way for mass leaps forward in aircraft design !!

  • @michaelmichniak127
    @michaelmichniak127 4 місяці тому

    Back in the day one of the aircraft was flown by Howard Hughes who also happened to own TWA. In later years this same aircraft was modified to float! Minus the wings and with a modified bottom it became The Cosmic Muffin, a floating 307! As far as I know, it is still in existence! Jimmy Buffett was a fan of this plane/boat too!

  • @gijbuis
    @gijbuis 11 місяців тому +9

    I look at those rectangular windows on the Stratoliner and remember the explanation given for crashes of the early De Havilland Comet. They were said to be due to metal fatigue forming in the corners of the retangular windows. That later turned out to be a myth!

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      ℹ️ℹ️

    • @davidcole8448
      @davidcole8448 11 місяців тому +3

      Although they did indeed fall apart mid air, people were killed, and De Havelland went out of business, and that is no myth.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      @@davidcole8448 ℹ️ℹ️

    • @redblade8160
      @redblade8160 11 місяців тому +1

      @@davidcole8448
      The issues with the De Havilland Comet were all rectified later on. However, by that time, larger aircraft were being built, which put a halt to the Comet's production.

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 11 місяців тому +2

      It wasn't the square windows, it was countersinking the metal (for flush rivets) that created a knife edge where cracks began. Airframers now "dimple" holes instead.

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 11 місяців тому +1

    A beautiful aircraft. The polished aluminium fuselage not only LOOKED great but saved WEIGHT. Todays painted aircraft carry extra weight of paint on the large ones, slowing them down and increasing fuel usage.

  • @georgelolenici6023
    @georgelolenici6023 10 місяців тому

    Well balanced information and clip. Well done makes me want to go back in time and fly in one. Thx

  • @paulazemeckis7835
    @paulazemeckis7835 11 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyed your vid! One thing though...you have a great narrator voice, however it was somewhat drowned by the music. Love the history of aviation! I truly believe it got safe with the 707. Although the DC -3's were/are still workhorses to this day! Am grateful I was born in 1959 and flew for the first time in 1974 from Atlanta to Chicago. Loved it then, still love it now. I am your average avgeek...although in 1986 I had control of a Cessna for 30 seconds around Rome GA. Thrill of a lifetime!

  • @ericsonhazeltine5064
    @ericsonhazeltine5064 11 місяців тому +2

    Beautiful art deco plane

  • @davehue9517
    @davehue9517 9 місяців тому +1

    When everyone travelled in style and class. Great video

  • @mktwatcher
    @mktwatcher 11 місяців тому

    Well Done. A very nice video on early airline transport technology.

  • @JoshuaC923
    @JoshuaC923 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for all these great story documentaries of lesser known aircraft. Didn't know they just took the wings from the B17

  • @flyski7473
    @flyski7473 11 місяців тому +1

    You will never see dinners like that anymore! Pressurized, wide cabin, those were the days.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Right 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 10 місяців тому

      You'll never see dinners like that anymore due to airfares becoming more affordable than in the past. Back when the Boeing 307 was first flying all seating was pretty much first class and you paid accordingly for that.

  • @ZagJ107
    @ZagJ107 11 місяців тому

    Yoo almost 80k views! That's how you do it! Great job man

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Thank you soo much, working hard daily. I appreciate you 🫡🫡

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    @antman5474 11 місяців тому

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    You is going places.
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      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

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      @antman5474 11 місяців тому +1

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      And God willing

    • @ronaldmessina4229
      @ronaldmessina4229 10 місяців тому

      I am sorry, but your english is not correct

  • @None-zc5vg
    @None-zc5vg 11 місяців тому +1

    The 'DC-10' airliner appeared some thirty years after the 'Stratoliner' and was found to have structural weaknesses that were potentially fatal should sudden decompression occur. When this was demonstrated during a commercial flight (the plane landed safely), the FAA were in a position to command that ALL DC-10 airframes be modified at once to safely cope with sudden cabin-depressurisation in flight. They didn't do so (in order to protect the plane's sales prospects) and an unmodified airframe was consequently lost in a fatal crash that took hundreds of lives.

  • @chriscurtis4082
    @chriscurtis4082 10 місяців тому +1

    Several of these ended up with a French outfit called CITCA, who ran the weekly Saigon-Vientiane-Hanoi (and return) flight for the International Control Commission. I was in Vientiane from 1970 and from memory the last three were registered F-BELU, BELX and BELY. Think by now they were cannibalising for spares and that eventually BELY became the last survivor. Whichever it was would have operated until the "old" Control Commission was wound up in 1972 or possibly early 73.
    Previously CITCA would have had others - certainly the one which was shot down without trace in the 1960s. I also understood that (before my time) they had sold/leased one to Royal Air Lao, who subsequently wrecked it somewhere near Luang Prabang.
    Occasionally I had to load small freight items into the passenger cabin. There was little security and there was something a bit special about unsupervised access to an aircraft which even then was seen as historic. Even got to see the flight deck one day. Happy times.

  • @andywindes4968
    @andywindes4968 11 місяців тому +1

    It amazes me that when the government took over these aircraft at the beginning of the war, they did not utilize them for YIP travel. You can only imagine how much more comfortable (and probably, safer) it would have been for FDR to travel by one of these pressurized planes. A couple more could have been given to the British for Winston Churchill's us. Each of these men, who had significant health issues, would have benefited these men tremendously.

  • @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars
    @PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 2 місяці тому

    An interesting point here are the square windows. In the DH Comet, fatigue at the corners of the windows was blamed for the loss of several aircraft.
    Does anyone know if there was an issue here?

  • @sfchar
    @sfchar 11 місяців тому +4

    The letters TWA didn't stand for Trans World Airlines until 1950. Before that, it was Transcontinental and Western Air. The company kept the TWA brand after Western Air Express split off and became Western Airlines. Hence, "The Transcontinental Line" on the fuselage.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      🤔🤔🤔🧠🧠🧠

    • @EJWash57
      @EJWash57 11 місяців тому

      I'd suggest you look up the Postal Service "forced mergers" of 1930. Western was incorporated in 1925. Five airlines were forced to merge in 1930, Transcontinental Air Transport being one of them, Western Air Express another, along with Maddux Air Lines, Standard, and Pittsburgh Aviation Industries Corporation. The resulting airline was Transcontinental & Western Air (TW&A). Western Air Express split off in 1934 as General Air Lines, changing back to Western Air Express a few months later. Western predates TWA. If you look at the timeline of the late 1920s, into the 1940s, you'll see a LOT of airline mergers. The airlines wee have in the U.S. today are the result of mergers. Not one has been a "stand alone" carrier since their inception.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@EJWash57 sound great I will definitely look it up thank you 🫡

    • @bretthoffman2128
      @bretthoffman2128 11 місяців тому

      @@EJWash57 only 5 Airlines.
      Guess we’ve made progress since then

  • @HAL-xy3om
    @HAL-xy3om 11 місяців тому

    Great show as always my friend!

  • @NJ-on3pn
    @NJ-on3pn 9 місяців тому

    Love your documentary!

  • @jayreiter268
    @jayreiter268 11 місяців тому +3

    On emergency decent with no engine or cabin compressors working the fuselage can implode . That can happen because the cabin internal pressure is about 11 psi in cruse.. With no pressurization available and the outflow valves closed the aircraft quickly descends into heavy air. If the cabin was allowed to develop a negative pressure of about 2.5psi the fuselage could implode. The valves you are mentioning are cabin negative relief valves. If the 307 used a pneumatic system like the 707 it is a function of the outflow valve. On the 747 the negative pressure valves are two flapper doors in the cargo doors. I did not fully understand pressurization until I was speaking to a 747 in trouble circling over Las Vegas. "I cannot make the cabin descend. Cabin altitude raises toward 14000 feet" I responded you mean you cannot pressurize? After some talk the Flight Engineer realized we were not speaking the same language. On arrival LAX I found a major blown duct.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      🤔🤔 interesting 🧐

    • @Greatdome99
      @Greatdome99 11 місяців тому

      I don't think so. The cabin pressure relief valves are designed to be fail-safe. If they weren't, the airplane would never have been certified.

    • @jayreiter268
      @jayreiter268 11 місяців тому

      @@Greatdome99 Who said they were not fail safe? The negative pressure relief valves do not pressurize the aircraft. They admit ambient air to relieve negative pressure. Negative pressure is a remote occurrence. Most emergency descents happen because of a loss in pressure due to a leak. the leak would help balance negative pressure in decent.

    • @jayreiter268
      @jayreiter268 11 місяців тому

      @@Greatdome99 Have you ever seen the flotation valves in older airliners? They were floating balls to block water raising into the cabin during water landings. Also a remote occurrence. Airliners now have large vents in the floor to prevent collapse of the floor during rapid decompression..

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@jayreiter268 right✅! 🧐

  • @jamesfrost7465
    @jamesfrost7465 10 місяців тому

    Nice, I did not know anything about this classic.

  • @coreymugaas6388
    @coreymugaas6388 11 місяців тому

    Great narration, I love that voice! and cool music too!

  • @danielgoodson703
    @danielgoodson703 11 місяців тому

    Based IAD. Saw one of these on the hard stand/hold area/penalty box(so many names for it) RWY 30 for many months. 2002 approximately.
    Believe it was destined for Udvar-Hazy.

  • @oisiaa
    @oisiaa 9 місяців тому

    Keep up the great work! I have a feeling your channel will catch on before too long when the algorithm smiles up on you.

  • @jamesjwalsh
    @jamesjwalsh 11 місяців тому

    With a pressurized cabin they would have been a good fit for the CBI theatre in WW2, those long flights over "the hump" (Himalayas).

  • @kevinferrin5695
    @kevinferrin5695 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for adding to my education. This is cool.

  • @jfess1911
    @jfess1911 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks. I was aware of the Constellation but not the 307.
    For a really wacky story, Howard Hughes purchased a 307 for a around the world attempt in 1939 and was foiled by WWII. Later the airplane was damaged beyond repair by a hurricane and its remnants were turned into a yacht. Look up "Cosmic Muffin".

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Thank you very very much. I will definitely look it up. Leave up to Hughes to always do something lol

    • @jfess1911
      @jfess1911 11 місяців тому

      @@dontdeletehistory I found the story in the Wikipedia entry on the 307 and just looked for images of the Cosmic Miuffin.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@jfess1911 okay cool that’s definitely helps point me in a good direction 👍

  • @TricksterDa
    @TricksterDa 11 місяців тому

    Loved that glimpse of Howard Hughes near the end. He was the founder of Trans World Airlines.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      😎😎😎

    • @khtlon
      @khtlon 9 місяців тому

      Wasn't the founder. He came into the company after it was founded

  • @robingilmore1444
    @robingilmore1444 9 місяців тому

    Excellent. Thank you

  • @FilmSchool-om3ew
    @FilmSchool-om3ew Місяць тому

    Wow, the amount of space in that thing, like a house.
    Airlines today would never allow passengers to have that kind of space.

  • @jimjoe9945
    @jimjoe9945 11 місяців тому

    The flying cloud 307 was restored twice. After restoration it was taken up for a short flight with minimum fuel and crashed into Elliot Bay off of Alki point in Seattle due to fuel exhaustion. Then restored again.

  • @XRP747E
    @XRP747E 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for giving this rare aircraft some exposure. Only 10 were built.
    Loss of pressurisation results in 'hypoxia' and possible loss of consciousness and even death. It's for that reason that procedures require immediate descent to 10,000 feet or below. This emergency is thoroughly trained for by aircrew.
    The Bends, on the other hand, is an illness that arises from the rapid release of nitrogen gas from the bloodstream and is caused by bubbles forming in the blood and other tissues when a DIVER ascends to the surface of the ocean too rapidly. It is also referred to as Caisson sickness, decompression sickness (DCS), and Divers' Disease. Bends is not aviation related.
    I enjoyed your work. Thank you.

  • @bcshelby4926
    @bcshelby4926 11 місяців тому

    ...a sleek and classy airliner for its day that was ahead of its time. Sadly the war in Europe would be soon upon us which saw them recommissioned. Amazing that one was still in service in the 1970s.
    Back when engineers instead of bean counters called the shots.
    So wonderful that the last one to be in service was preserved.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Right. with the war this aircraft would made history.

    • @stacase
      @stacase 11 місяців тому

      Still in service in 1970 got my attention too.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@stacase mine too lol

  • @antoniomaruge8218
    @antoniomaruge8218 11 місяців тому

    Great, great work. I’ll love for you to do one about the McDonnell Douglas DC-10 and it’s reputation. Keep up the great work.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Thank you soo so much. Don’t worry I got you coming up soon

    • @stuartlee6622
      @stuartlee6622 7 місяців тому

      The Death Chamber 10.
      Stay away!!!!

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 11 місяців тому +2

    The story goes, Boeing contacted Cliff Garrett, owner of AiResearch in LA, to develop the pressurization system, which included a turbo-compressor and a passive fuselage pressure control valve mounted in the back floor of the plane. Oh yeah, and Boeing had to make the plane airtight, leaky doors and all. AiResearch (now Honeywell) continues to make A/C packs for commercial transports to this day.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Ohh Wow. I will do more research into him. Thank you soo much for the information 🫡

  • @misryluvsco8169
    @misryluvsco8169 9 місяців тому

    My late father-in-law, Willis “Pat” Patterson flew this plane. He moved on to the Constellation, then retired.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  7 місяців тому

      It’s always touching to learn about the personal histories associated with these aircraft. The Boeing 307 Stratoliner was a significant step in aviation history, and pilots like your father-in-law were pivotal in its story. If you’re willing, we’d be honored to include a mention of Willis ‘Pat’ Patterson in our next piece on aviation pioneers.

  • @robertwbingo
    @robertwbingo 11 місяців тому

    Terrific video!

  • @robertbarnier45
    @robertbarnier45 11 місяців тому

    OMG. Thanks. I’ve never seen that aircraft. I love the dinner party. lol.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Any time! I’m glad you divorced something new

  • @pilotsharkshanger9182
    @pilotsharkshanger9182 11 місяців тому

    Enjoyed this very informative. Good pace and is easy to flower along.
    CAVU

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for watching 🫡

  • @robertstamers5099
    @robertstamers5099 11 місяців тому +1

    You have a very pleasant narration voice, that makes listening easy.
    You may want to check your facts though. The last commercial service was in 1975, but not with Pan American which had stopped flying the 307 in the early 1950s.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      🤔🤔🤔

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Thank you very very much I really appreciate it . But Which airline service was it ?

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 10 місяців тому +1

      According to the book, "Famous Airliners," by William F. Mellberg, Pan American sold its three Stratoliners in 1948.

  • @cristianomaddog
    @cristianomaddog 11 місяців тому

    Great Video and background sound track

  • @curtvona4891
    @curtvona4891 11 місяців тому

    Great job! You have a wonderful voice, and your presentation is on point. You have a bright future,

  • @EJWash57
    @EJWash57 11 місяців тому

    Great presentation. Just found your channel. Subscribed.

  • @thetooginator153
    @thetooginator153 10 місяців тому

    I took a plane from San Francisco to Philadelphia as a little boy in the mid sixties and I remember the plane looking like the Stratoliner (definitely a four prop airliner).

    • @mitchellbaxter6314
      @mitchellbaxter6314 7 місяців тому

      A four-prop plane in the 1960's was more likely a DC-6 or DC-7.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  7 місяців тому

      your personal recollection of flying on a plane similar to the Stratoliner adds a touch of nostalgia to the discussion. Memories like yours provide a personal perspective to the history of aviation, reminding us that these machines are part of individual life stories. Thank you for sharing your experience!

    • @rusty41251
      @rusty41251 4 місяці тому

      Could very well have been a Boeing 377. As the 307 was made from the B-17, the 377 was made from the B-29/50.

  • @DougWalp
    @DougWalp 11 місяців тому +6

    Subscribed! Great info. My only constructive criticism is that the background music is a little too loud. The narration is awesome.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому +1

      Got you. Thank you, welcome on board 🫡. Note take 🫡 I appreciate you

  • @timelwell7002
    @timelwell7002 11 місяців тому +1

    Maybe I have strange tastes, but to my eye this is a superb looking 'plane. I LOVE the somewhat dumpy appearance. For me, the 307 Stratoliner is far more aesthetically pleasing than Concorde, or indeed any other passenger aircraft ever made, with the possible exceptions of the Douglas DC-3 or the De Havilland Comet. Until this video, I had never seen one of these before - so many thanks for a great and informative video.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Thank you soo much for watching, I really appreciate it. This plane is beautiful, I love the art-deco styling.

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 10 місяців тому +2

      Doesn't the Lockheed Constellation rank amongst aesthetically pleasing airliners?

    • @timelwell7002
      @timelwell7002 10 місяців тому +1

      @@WAL_DC-6B I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And I am just such a beholder..!

  • @ambc8970
    @ambc8970 11 місяців тому

    I had never heard of this aircraft before. I thought the DC3 was the trendsetter of that era. I flew many tomes with a DC3. The last time I’m march 1964. Also on the DC4, 6 and 7 ( panam fights from Suriname =former Dutch Guyana to cayenne in French Guyana. Ooh yesss panam made the going great.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      You have flown in some iconic planes ✈️

    • @ambc8970
      @ambc8970 11 місяців тому +1

      @@dontdeletehistory yes . Also on the constellation in 1955. Air France constellation between point a pitre (Guadeloupe) and Paris le bourget with 1 stop in Lisbon. I am now 73 yrs old. I

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@ambc8970 thank you so much for sharing. Your an inspiration. I can’t wait to travel the world 🌎

  • @ricx9584
    @ricx9584 8 місяців тому +12

    I love aviation history and the old films that feature the era they're from. The "music" really spoils the story 😮.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  7 місяців тому +4

      It's fantastic to hear you enjoy aviation history and the rich stories it offers. Your feedback on the background music is taken seriously, as we strive to enhance the narrative without detracting from the historical ambiance. We'll consider this closely in our audio selections going forward.

    • @PeterKreft
      @PeterKreft 3 місяці тому +2

      @@dontdeletehistory I agree, just skip the elevator music.

    • @Fusselinchen82
      @Fusselinchen82 27 днів тому

      Awesome video...but please leave out the music...it's only distracting from the subject and annoying as well.

    • @Great-Documentaries
      @Great-Documentaries 26 днів тому +1

      @@dontdeletehistory Ignore these 90-year-olds. If you make tired, boring videos like they used to watch 50 years ago, you'll lose your audience. They want every video on UA-cam to be done as if it white supremacists were still in charge and the Cold War was still going on. They want you to sound like Edward R Murrow. They are the last people you should take advice from and they won't be around to whine much longer.

  • @billgrandone3552
    @billgrandone3552 11 місяців тому

    It's amazing to see the seeming fragility of the undercarriage and tires of the 307 compared to the jumbo jets of today,

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Ohhhhh yesss.

    • @raymarshall6721
      @raymarshall6721 11 місяців тому

      Except they were more rugged in terms of what they did compared to today's. That is the same system that got many damaged B-17s to safety with severe airframe damage with hard and crash landings. Today's aircraft have very specific parameters they have to meet for landings to avoid damage

    • @billgrandone3552
      @billgrandone3552 11 місяців тому

      @@raymarshall6721 I can image, but compared to the Stratoliner the one's today look almost over engineered. Of course they are not considering the sheer weight of a modern aircarft and their lload capacities of people, goods, aand fuel and the relative speed at which thet take off and land.

  • @johnstout64
    @johnstout64 11 місяців тому +2

    A excellently written and informative narrative coupled with an exhaustive curation of film and images. Bravo, young man!

  • @jimzeller3747
    @jimzeller3747 11 місяців тому

    It goes to show how quickly aircraft technology advanced in the war years. They built ten, the war started, the war ended and it was obsolescent (that's a hard word to spell).

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Lol definitely hard to spell. But yes you are absolutely right on this.

  • @teeembeee
    @teeembeee 10 місяців тому

    Just to clarify....you will not get the bends during a rapid decompression in a pressurized aircraft. You do need to get on oxygen right away but the bends is not a concern. Other than that, this is a great documentary on an aircraft that I knew nothing about. It was beautiful!

    • @sandervanderkammen9230
      @sandervanderkammen9230 9 місяців тому

      Rapid depressurization from high altitude can cause barotrauma..

    • @teeembeee
      @teeembeee 9 місяців тому

      different than the bends which was mentioned several times in the article@@sandervanderkammen9230

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  7 місяців тому

      I’m glad to hear you found the documentary enlightening. Clarity on technical aspects such as decompression in pressurized aircraft is crucial, and I appreciate you bringing up the point about the “bends” not being a concern in such situations. It’s feedback like yours that enriches the educational aspect of these documentaries.

  • @stephenmajor5498
    @stephenmajor5498 11 місяців тому

    Now I know where the phrase "bring a big appetite" originated. That is why the 179 lbs. per person made sense in those days . Once you've included 7lbs. of chicken, soups, coffee, before and after dinner drinks and a loaf of bread for each passenger, you'll have to add another 50lbs. for each person's luggage.
    Oh crap! I forgot about feeding the engines! I'm sure there were a lot fuel critical moments well before takeoff and several return trips to the gate to prioritize a few minor details.
    Thanks for showing us that big, beautiful beast.😊

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      😂, your amazing. Thank for watching 🫡

    • @stephenmajor5498
      @stephenmajor5498 11 місяців тому

      @@dontdeletehistory Thank you, my brother. I'll look forward to your next video just after I hit the subscribe button! Keep up the great work with your background information as you work out the bugs in the audio. Again, nice work.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      @@stephenmajor5498 thank you soo much fam. 🫡🫡. And we are definitely definitely working on it. I promise.

  • @maxwellq6891
    @maxwellq6891 11 місяців тому

    nicely done!

  • @haroldellis9721
    @haroldellis9721 11 місяців тому +1

    Pre War pressurized flight? I had no idea. Subscribed.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      Welcome onboard, thank you very much. I hope you enjoy the journey with me 🫡

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 11 місяців тому

      haroldellis Pay attention it was mentioned in the video, it was the first of its kind, the 307 was in response to the DC3 which Douglas developed the DC4 during the war, and post war Boeing came out with the 377 Stratocruiser, based on the B29/50/KC97 only 10 were built and the war started and BORING had to concentrate of the B17 B29 and the USAAC comandered all of them for VIP transport only long range pressurized transport available...

  • @johnbaggus9966
    @johnbaggus9966 9 місяців тому

    Wow! Well done 👍 very informative

  • @turkey0165
    @turkey0165 11 місяців тому +3

    I'll never forget that Boeing test pilot ditching into Puget Sound in the restored Stratoliner because he failed to check the fuel ⛽️ level and ran the aircraft out of gasl comming back from Everett to Seattle! Pilot Error! How long ago was that?

  • @vietnammodeling
    @vietnammodeling 11 місяців тому +2

    Very interesting. Please turn down the background music or raise the volume of the narration. It's sometimes hard to hear what you say.

  • @williamscoggin1509
    @williamscoggin1509 9 місяців тому

    Can't deal with the messed-up soundtrack, makes me want to throw something at the TV. Really wanted to enjoy this.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  7 місяців тому

      It’s a shame the soundtrack detracted from your viewing experience, @williamscoggin1509 The Boeing 307 Stratoliner’s story is indeed a fascinating one, and it’s crucial that the media supporting it enhances rather than diminishes

  • @ouroboris
    @ouroboris 11 місяців тому +2

    Fascinating documentary of an historic aircraft! But on a side note - I found the background music to be rather difficult to listen to. Perhaps something a bit smoother next time.

  • @mrpeel3239
    @mrpeel3239 8 місяців тому

    Such a solidly built aircraft! Anyone have the link to the aerial footage over NYC @ 6:22?

  • @Sean_Coyne
    @Sean_Coyne 11 місяців тому +2

    Being the first commercial airliner with a pressurised cabin, one immediately notices the (thankfully relatively few) rectangular cabin windows. The use of these sharp corners in the later de Haviland Comet, the first commercial jetliner which was also pressurised, was what contributed to metal fatigue, fracture lines and tragic break ups in mid air after repeated pressurisations.

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  11 місяців тому

      When it comes to pressurization it’s very very complicated.

    • @gijbuis
      @gijbuis 11 місяців тому +3

      see my comment - the break up of the De Havilland Comet later turned out later not to be due to the rectangular windows

    • @Sean_Coyne
      @Sean_Coyne 11 місяців тому

      @@gijbuis Is that a fact? How interesting, I had no idea. All the info I have seen showed fatigue cracks emanating from the window frames. Live and learn. :-)

    • @petercreed2471
      @petercreed2471 11 місяців тому +2

      Yea that's a common misconception spread accidentally from inaccurate media reporting. And it's not like there was the www. To look up the accuracy of such reports

  • @spaceace1006
    @spaceace1006 9 місяців тому

    I guess that dealing with noise was an issue for those piston engine planes!
    Of course, the first turbojets weren't exactly quiet! The introduction of turbofan
    engines began to abate some of the noise and of course, greatly decrease fuel
    consumption while at the same time, increasing power!

    • @dontdeletehistory
      @dontdeletehistory  7 місяців тому

      It’s fascinating to consider how each technological leap changed the experience of flying

  • @rogerwilco4736
    @rogerwilco4736 10 місяців тому +1

    Think you've got so closeup footage of a Douglas DC 3 cockpit mascerading as a Stratoliner

  • @Darren-kk9ij
    @Darren-kk9ij 11 місяців тому

    Nice job. You’re a good writer.

  • @cosimodalessio642
    @cosimodalessio642 9 місяців тому

    Thanks! Great video! “May I have another, Sir?”

  • @Paper246
    @Paper246 11 місяців тому

    Y’know, the creation of the 307 reminds me of that from the tu 104. Wings and tail stolen, but entirely new fuselage.

    • @Paper246
      @Paper246 11 місяців тому

      Or is it the other way around?

  • @crabkilla
    @crabkilla 4 місяці тому

    Dressed-up passengers. Luxury food. Unbridled optimism. Boy, have things gone downhill since.

  • @jeramiebradford1
    @jeramiebradford1 11 місяців тому

    Good show! keep 'em coming. new subscriber here

  • @rusty41251
    @rusty41251 4 місяці тому

    Boeing chose to limit the pressurization to 2.5psi. This was conservative as this was the first airliner to have it. But it limited the "practical" cruising altitude to 14-15,000 feet before the cabin reached 10,000. Pan Am did not operate the last 307 flight in 1975!

  • @jamesstuart3346
    @jamesstuart3346 9 місяців тому

    Great video. Learn something every day! 😂