Don't Jinx it. The left likes to swoop in and buy dying media companies to help parrot the anti-trump brainwashing. Even Fox is owned by the left now. Disney. Literal controlled opposition.
Whether you agree with vice or not, why would you wish bad and hate upon them? You know regular people work there? No one you love pay check to pay check and probably have food stamps. With a mentality like that. Please don’t have children.
Democrat party is like this by design. All their progressive ideas are evil... children on puberty blockers... people cant even define what a woman is are mutilating children and shame us for not "following the science" they actually hate real science. They want to tax carbon, the most neutral harmless elememt on the periodic table. Lefties racially descriminate against white people
@@Aireck174 thus is the inevitably of liberalisim. Liberalisim has to keep progressing. Theres only so much you can progress without having to take rights away from some to give to others
Hamilton Morris I believe was a huge draw to Vice, as he was a chemist minded individual breaking down drugs, usage around the world doing extensive documentaries. He had built quite a following and a lot of hippy-like people I knew watched his content religiously. Vice had these flamboyant, different, talented and quirky enough to stand out personalities, as well as big risk takers. Tye woke shit definitely killed my taste and interest in them, especially up to 2020 and after 2016 elections. It was a nonstop slant against Trump and the like. I just got sick of it.
I like watching VICE documentaries. The problem is when watching, keep in mind every 1 of the shows are from the far, far left opinions. It's really hard when they be bashing the right and conservatives.
I've been told the same for years. I find it funny that this is in reference to a certain way you speak and/or behave. Generally, you probably speak proper and respectful, by my assumption. Therefore, you're not a real n-word.
What Tim says about UA-cam and Vice makes perfect sense when it comes to understanding why UA-cam pushed TYT for as long as they did. TYT was the #1 "news" channel pushed by UA-cam for years. That changed though when the adpolcolypse occurred and UA-cam bent to big corporations and started pushing CNN, NBC, MSNBC, and FOX. I don't know which is worse...
It's so bad I can never type a news event and get a non sponsored/promoted news source. I literally couldn't find coverage from Tim or anybody else unless I went to his channel or just heavily scrolled my "recommended" feed and came across it randomly or through the side tab of a "related video". Sucks when you cannot intentionally search for things effectively anymore. UA-cam was my escape from the corporate press and 2020/2021 was the peak of it being the worst.
@Jeremy K Ikr, now I have specific channels I check for their specific area(s) of expertise; because far too much of the mainstream media is too biased and infested with Wokeish propaganda.
@@Jayremy89 I'm going to play devils advocate for a minute. When it comes to breaking news, stories from channels like Timcast are secondary news sources. Primary sources like main stream media outlets are favored simply due to the fact that they have the resources to break the news first. As far as advertised content I'm clueless because I've had youtube premium since it came out.
I am only subbed to fox news for Gutfeld. He as done his show for what 2 years? Not once have i gotten one clip from fox news in my feed even though i am subbed. I have to actually go to the page to see if new segments from Gutfeld have posted yet. UA-cam was not bumping fox at all lol.
Vice's spiraling to its demise was when Disney gained partial ownership. From a viewers standpoint i remember witnessing the tone, delivery, message and wording immediately changed. That was the moment i unfollwed them and never looked back. I dipped in from time to time to witness how they developed there after and observed a compromised manufactured medium that faded away from what made it so unique in the beginning.
@@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488 that’s average numbers. He’s big on his own. He’s wealthy. No doubt. But I’m talking about the company he’s building. I want it to go platinum.
@@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488 that’s average numbers. He’s big on his own. He’s wealthy. No doubt. But I’m talking about the company he’s building. I want it to go platinum.
0:08: 📺 The corporate press, specifically Vice, has experienced a decline in popularity and financial stability despite their successful documentaries on UA-cam. 3:30: 📺 The speaker discusses the success and changes of the Vice show on UA-cam and HBO. 6:54: 😕 The speaker worked for Fusion and Vice, and while they initially had a positive experience, things changed as the companies grew and became more isolated. 9:56: 🔑 The speaker shares a story about a coworker who was promoted despite lacking competence and being involved in misconduct. 12:40: 📚 The speaker discusses the profile of people hired at Vice and the importance of having both creative and operational skills. 15:59: 💼 The speaker describes the changes that occurred in Vice Media after receiving a $70 million investment, including the replacement of long-time employees with LinkedIn professionals. 19:04: 📺 Shane Smith used assumptive language to make employees believe Vice was a bigger media empire than it actually was. Recap by Tammy AI
Within the first minute or so, you can see why. He's very undisciplined, like a dog distracted by every squirrel. Here, PBD stays on topic because PBD is driving the ship.
His show is a mixture of interviewing guests and presenting and evaluating the news, so it's not a pure interview show. That's why he doesn't let his guests talk as much as other interview shows. 2.o
The same thing happened to me when I was the front runner for a managerial promotion. After 9 years I was passed up for a woman of color with 6 months experience at the same job. I left the museum for a managerial job at a Hilton and things have been great and my former employer has been having major problems since.
Too White is code for you are not Elite or you are not part of the PLUTOCRACY ; these people don't care about race and never did. They care about status and control; they love people like David because he is an Idealogue. Who is it they don't care about? : poor people period.
More people should sue when they are told that. Its still illegal to hire based on race and sex. Civil rights laws were created in the first place because of democrats showing favoritism to white people. We need the republican party that created those laws to now enforce those laws.
I’ve been following and rooting for Pool since the 10 ranting videos a day era. iMO TimPool and PBD would be a beautiful relationship with a broad range of audience reach.
Excellent point Tim made about it being UA-cam influenced for those shows. Honestly, I have always known about Vice but I’ve never specifically gone to them for content, I’d just click on it through UA-cam anyway. Makes perfect sense. Also, Vice used to be the shit, for YEARS. I worked with them for 8 years through a marketing agency and they were the rad anti establishment, no holds barred, unapologetic content n journalism. They went from that to radical woke propaganda n sell outs. All the epic people I knew are ALL GONE. And that’s a decent number of people, at least 30-40 people. They all left once things started to get woke. It’s so sad cuz I always really loved them and what they stood for. It’s a sad reality now and I don’t pay any attention to them anymore.
Tim : "but my mom is Korean" that's the wrong argument, because it is playing into the notion of "You should get your position based on your skin color", he's just defending it with "but i'm not entirely white". Instead, he should have argued with "why does my skin color matter?"
That would be great if the argument worked for people who are perceived as white. When you argue that skin color shouldn’t matter and you are perceived as white it is automatically labeled as white supremacy to shut you up for calling out the hypocrisy. The elites, who are predominantly white, fear the white race the most because they question the elites, challenge their edicts and refuse their placations. What better way to maintain power than to get rid of those who will not be submissive or buy into the lies?
@@MrClassicmetal i totally see tims point and if you did hop on YT with a freshy private window there would be vice and many other "content" back then... but the years he's talking about were LITERALLY the golden years of VICEtv... those documentaries were sooooooo good and raw and some rode that fine line of WTF content w/o being gorey or NSFW to an extent... and they hit that super in the field hipster investigative journo vibe... shane smith and the pakistani guy, owners, did some WILD ones too.
Every time he pops up I ask myself why the winter cap agitates me so much and I genuinely don’t have an answer lmao. I just wish it were a baseball cap or something that doesn’t make it look like we’re about to leave a dive bar in the middle of Milwaukee in the winter to go out for a smoke
@@CrookDannyIt's annoying enough when I see a person wearing a stocking cap in the summer but then make that person over 40 and super into skateboarding we're talking nuclear levels of annoyance
This is the type of dude that works for you and pays attention. The check was never number one, it was more of what can I achieve here, what can I learn and what can I give back.
@Gaye Lorde I was raised in a Hippie commune, and was only allowed to read children's books. You might be familiar with this commune, It was called "The Spahn Ranch"
@@gayelorde2577 Sorry, but that's not true. That accusation against tim may work or may hold some water, but patrick for better or worse says what he believes and isn't a con artist in any way. Tim, that holds far more water with because of the way he goes about things or the ''ill criticize someone for doing something then do the exact same thing but don't believe you're lying eyes'' kind of shit.
I occasionally listen to Tim’s show, I generally like him and think he is a good addition to the non-msm reporting out there. After this I have a new found respect for him, he is much brighter and more business savvy than I understood.
I mean yeah he's quite an arrogant little asshole, but even he's admitted that on his content that he's arrogant as fuck. Its one of the problems with the timcast irl podcast in that he never lets anyone else talk, or just berates his cohosts, largely tho its been nice to see people push back and not let him just bully people. For better or worse people like milo and alex jones just got him pipe down and let them talk.
This reminds me of the time when Greg giraldo had talked about applying for a news position and told him he wasn't Hispanic enough. That's what he broke into his hard dialect of a Mexican speaking English and was talking about "the weather is muggy, good day to cross a river"
The main issue with the corporate world. Terrible how they promote or just hire people who have no clue what they're doing and then they get leave or get fired...
He also sits on the fence. For a guy who talks about civil war in the US frequently, he's not the kinda guy you would want in your foxhole. He won't lift a finger for anything other than views
@@jordanbolm8517 Yea he is one of those that really doesn’t have a backbone. If he was on the edge of REALLY getting cancelled, we all know he would cave.
This was truly an outstanding video!! 2 of some of the favorite guys here on UA-cam, In the same-room!! Patrick Bet-David & Tim Pool! So glad that I subscribe to the both of them!!
Sometimes it’s not what you heard but where you heard it and who said it. The very thought that you are not alone in the world of AOC voters and there are three million other people who think like you is very important. It gives people hope. You don’t feel the same way when you hear the same ideas expressed on Telegram, UA-cam or on Podcast. That’s why Tucker was so important and that’s why they had to can him as soon as RFK appeared on his show.
Learning about more of Tim's backstory and reasoning, I see even more why I was drawn to him for information. I dropped out of high school early in the 10th grade to go to work with very similar thoughts as Tim. I got my contractor's license when I was 21, the youngest age a person could legally become a contractor in the State I was in. After 20 years of running my own business, I concluded that there would be no good future for me or my children in the trades any longer due to illegal immigration (I had workers who now live in homeless shelters because they couldn't survive on the money the illegals would work for because the illegals live with 11 other people in a one bedroom apartment and get welfare for all their children), so I went back to school and graduated university with magna cum laude distiction in a discipline comprised of very smart people. Regardless, I recognize Tim's influence and commitment to truth, while calling out blatant lies and propaganda, is extremely important for humanity at this pivotal time.
That’s a great story good for you! I don’t know what trade you were in but illegals aren’t taking work from people that are doing the highest end quality custom work
Yeah BUT also remember Tim Pool and others can not tell all the truth, just some, that IS allowed, IF they told the truth, they would not have a social media presence. “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise,” hmm the question is who is George Soros? who is Zelensky? hmm Another example go look at the huge list of those from Israel who are American business people in media and the CEO of Disney etc then you start to come to the realisation hmm maybe just maybe the "woke" agenda was the same agenda they have done to other nations in the past such as the once Christian nation of Russia turning it into their credo in 1917 and their "woke" agenda on the Russians during the Bolshevik revolution. Another example of this group this one person is responsible for the greatest mass deletion in the 20th century about 10 million Genrikh Yagoda, they have an agenda and we are not part of it, they are at war with us.
Yes. . . Sharing one bedroom with 11 other people -- that's the "glorious" socialist future the WEF and their minions want to comdemn us to. . . but they THEMSELVES want to continue to live like Alissa Heinerscheid of Bud Light -- they want THEIR families to stay in their 7.8 million dollar homes in Manhattan and San Diego and Denver. The Soviet-style pod-tenements are what they want for the rest of us. There's an old Soviet movie, "The Irony of Fate, or Enjoy Your Bath" where a drunk guy accidentally goes "home" to the wrong apartment building. His key fits, the furniture inside is like his own, the refrigerator holds the same sparse food. He climbs into bed and falls asleep, not realizing he's in some random woman's apartment, until she comes home to find some random guy asleep in her bed.
Vice was actually right wing which on rare occasions covered issues related to environmental issues. The real reason why Vice fell was because of MeToo. They had an issue where one of their top employee was accused of seggsual assault. So their solution was to hire more women and post more feminist content. That inevitably made the content to be leftwing. That lead to the downfall of Vice.
@@MrClassicmetal idk why i posted that, after i searched his relation to VICE and found out he was con- founder i was thinking why did he leave it to be absorbed/ corrupted by the far left? Made me think of his statements regarding men™ in pop/nerd culture spheres and video game industry which practically results to "leave it the left"
Vice was anti establishment an alternative to mainstream news, they were the grittier group. ''right wing'' what the hell is with people calling anything or anyone anti establishment being ''right wing''
1/3 of every show tim does is tim talking about how awesome tim is. lol. lucky for him-almost all other media is poo so the small amount of signal (vs. noise) is enough for ppl like me to put it on in the background for the 10min of dece content for every hour of record time.
El obedecerle a ella Arruina la Atracción, e interés por ti Para que lo entiendas, ser complaciente con tu chica, es cuando estás obedeciendo o cediendo a sus deseos y demandas; especialmente cuando no quieres hacerlo. Cuando la mayoría de los hombres hacen esto, ven que la hace feliz, y quieren hacerla feliz. Como hombres aprendemos, si hago lo que ella quiere, eso la hace feliz. Después de todo las películas, novelas, y las canciones dicen eso. Todos queremos hacer feliz a nuestra chica, así que, naturalmente, queremos hacer las cosas que le traerán felicidad. El problema con esto es que cuanto más cumplimos con sus deseos y demandas, más disminuye su atracción. Me doy cuenta de que esto es completamente contrario a la intuición, por eso tantos hombres se equivocan. Aparte del adoctrinamiento que recibimos en los medios de comunicación, y el entretenimiento para actuar así. Nuestra forma de pensar masculina no comprende que darle lo que quiere disminuye su atracción. Eso no significa que te querrá menos, pero su atracción disminuirá un poco. Aquí es donde muchos esposos, y hombres en relaciones a largo plazo se equivocan. Piensan que será más fácil aceptar lo que ella quiere para mantenerla feliz. Con el tiempo, su atracción cae tan bajo que el sexo y el afecto físico disminuyen mucho o dejan de existir. Luego, los hombres se esfuerzan aún más por hacerla feliz, por lo que obtienen menos amor y menos sexo, y eso empeora aún más la situación. Es un círculo vicioso que nos deja frustrados e insatisfechos. Y extrañamente, las mujeres también se sienten frustradas e insatisfechas porque ya no eres emocionante, ni desafiante. Tu obediencia arruina la atracción por ella. Recuerda los seres humanos, y sobre todo las mujeres en cuestiones de atracción apreciamos lo difícil, lo que nos cuesta esfuerzo, lo gratis y lo fácil no es apreciado, ya que carece de valor. ¿O te gusta un juego de video donde no tengas que esforzarte, para lograr llegar a la meta?
I quit watching VICE about a year or so ago. It was obvious their content was "woke" and "broke" and I wasn't about to give them any more views on my behalf.
Tim with the “what do you mean guys like me?” thinking he’s the main character when he can’t even take his beanie off bc of insecurity man that’s wild.
Get Woke and go broke! My white self and my GREEN money say Fuck you! I try to spend money with companies that ARE NOT playing the racism game! Everyones money is GREEN!
Whites dont know what real racism is trust me. cause if you did you all would loose your minds. yall are already crazy as it is imagine if your people were enslaved beat eaten dismembered and killed for over 400 years. and thats not even including post slavery
I used to work for Vice and back then we were a magazine and just getting started with the online stuff. We werent a leftist driven entity at all back then.
That's interesting because I always wondered what happened to Gavin McInnes at Vice. I also couldn't understand how someone so right wing could be punk. Unless I'm thinking of someone else. Didn't he used to dress punk?
@@8rr725 Holddd up, at the time of vice being a magazine, being punk wasn't a right wing thing, being anti establishment thing. Its just that the left wing became so establishment dick sucking from out of fucking nowhere, that punk became right wing or well ''right wing''.
Sad when your not “Woke” enough for people they just cancel you out because that’s they know they’re wrong and can’t have a legitimate reason to defend themselves
@@hitman9198 What tim has said is that he created the news faction of vice, which seems to check out or perhaps more accurately was a founding member of it. Not of the company itself. i suppose its how people view,buzzfeed and buzzfeed news, people couldnt tell them apart.
I remember working in the Office with VICE as a start-up in 2000, it was great then. Shane, Surooh and Gavin were down to earth, a bit crazy but great guys, then they became very woke. I just looked and SOROS MANAGEMENT has 10% in it, now I understand what happened...
Pareto Principal: in any group endeavor, 50% of the actual productivity performed by the shareholders root of all participants involved. Generally speaking...but from what I've read it works pretty well on the facts. And btw...Tim ain't no hipster. He ain't a phony! People that identify with labels tend to be caricatures of themselves. Mad respect for both of you.
Pareto Principal is 20% do 80% of the work. Price's Law is the square root of the participants do 50% of the work. This is meant to be constructive. Keep it up the good work spreading the truth.
I could see UA-cam eventually destroying itself honestly, UA-cam keeps making mistakes forgetting what made UA-cam popular in the first place. Censorship will make UA-cam collapse and the advertisers well leave as it tries to copy Netflix and cable tv and is replaced by something that basically just original UA-cam with a different name
Vice had a bunch of content on Ukraine way way before this war started. I don't remember if it was on Vice HBO or VICE on youtube. Does anyone know if that content is still online? I for some reason can't find it
You want to learn about vice prove your free speech. Then bring on GAVIN MCINES That would be the best pod cast you ever host. You won’t be disappointed.
@@bikersoncall Naw lol. I believed the lie time likes to spew too until i decided to look it up once. No hate just informing people cause if hed lie about that just shows how much a grifter he is even if he gets it right sometimes.
@@ZeroDrizzy Right, I like truth, the rest is just noise... But Al Gore really did invent the interweb , and uh... oh yeah, electricity... I believe 'him'. 🤣
Civil Rights Act of 1964 "prohibits the discrimination on basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin" but yet employers think they can do just that with saying "you look too white" now? It was supposed to be neutrality based on merit not to over-discriminate in the reverse direction for "appearances".
Vice used to have amazing content until they went extreme left.
Yeah I remember those days
I remember that too
The beggining of the collapse.
Its just racist, say exactky like it is then it would change
story of our country, friend..
I cannot describe how happy it makes me knowing Vice is filing for bankruptcy. You all deserve it!
Except for the hard working folks losing there jobs. The top level management ruined the Co.
Why do they deserve to be bankrupt?
@@Davido50 And those who supported those Top Management by working for them can reap what they have sown!
Don't Jinx it. The left likes to swoop in and buy dying media companies to help parrot the anti-trump brainwashing.
Even Fox is owned by the left now. Disney. Literal controlled opposition.
Whether you agree with vice or not, why would you wish bad and hate upon them? You know regular people work there? No one you love pay check to pay check and probably have food stamps. With a mentality like that. Please don’t have children.
So progressive they became regressive 😂😂😂
Democrat party is like this by design. All their progressive ideas are evil... children on puberty blockers... people cant even define what a woman is are mutilating children and shame us for not "following the science" they actually hate real science. They want to tax carbon, the most neutral harmless elememt on the periodic table. Lefties racially descriminate against white people
full circle haha
Go woke go broke
When you get to the top of the hill of equality the only way to keep progressing is by going down the hill towards equity.
@@Aireck174 thus is the inevitably of liberalisim. Liberalisim has to keep progressing. Theres only so much you can progress without having to take rights away from some to give to others
It’s nice that you got Tim a chair. He usually prefers to sit on a fence
😂😂 that's awesome
😂
Perfect
Haha!
😅
Hamilton Morris I believe was a huge draw to Vice, as he was a chemist minded individual breaking down drugs, usage around the world doing extensive documentaries. He had built quite a following and a lot of hippy-like people I knew watched his content religiously.
Vice had these flamboyant, different, talented and quirky enough to stand out personalities, as well as big risk takers.
Tye woke shit definitely killed my taste and interest in them, especially up to 2020 and after 2016 elections. It was a nonstop slant against Trump and the like. I just got sick of it.
Hamilton Morris was the best
It used to be the most badass, bleeding edge thing I’d ever seen, but that Vice is long dead and gone
Ok scammer
@@fieldfairy9845
@@HamhockandHemorrhoids they actually just released a new episode after a long time, I believe a few days ago you should check it out!
I like watching VICE documentaries. The problem is when watching, keep in mind every 1 of the shows are from the far, far left opinions. It's really hard when they be bashing the right and conservatives.
This dude is crying reverse discrimination without any evidence
@@unapologeticallyblackados The evidence: THEY ARE BROKE! (For a Reason)!
@@unapologeticallyblackados No he isn't just read the comment. Your are misunderstanding the comment.
Vice in the middle 2000s was pretty non partisan. 2010s was the beginning of the end.
F diversity. diversity is a racist tool utilized to keep white pple out everything. diversity benefits one race and one race onkly
Ive been told I'm too white, and I'm a dark skinned black guy 😐😐😐. Not joking
White could also mean in a cultural way. Like white isn't just meant as a race. It's the way someone talks or behaves.
I've been told the same for years. I find it funny that this is in reference to a certain way you speak and/or behave. Generally, you probably speak proper and respectful, by my assumption. Therefore, you're not a real n-word.
When black people accuse other black people of this it usually means your highly educated and act in a professional manner. You should say thanks.
Racists expect you to be eating chicken and watermelon. I can’t stand the whole race garbage.
People are nuts.
What Tim says about UA-cam and Vice makes perfect sense when it comes to understanding why UA-cam pushed TYT for as long as they did. TYT was the #1 "news" channel pushed by UA-cam for years. That changed though when the adpolcolypse occurred and UA-cam bent to big corporations and started pushing CNN, NBC, MSNBC, and FOX. I don't know which is worse...
I feel like UA-cam actually addressed the corporate news bias after they replaced the trending page with shorts.
It's so bad I can never type a news event and get a non sponsored/promoted news source. I literally couldn't find coverage from Tim or anybody else unless I went to his channel or just heavily scrolled my "recommended" feed and came across it randomly or through the side tab of a "related video".
Sucks when you cannot intentionally search for things effectively anymore. UA-cam was my escape from the corporate press and 2020/2021 was the peak of it being the worst.
@Jeremy K Ikr, now I have specific channels I check for their specific area(s) of expertise; because far too much of the mainstream media is too biased and infested with Wokeish propaganda.
@@Jayremy89 I'm going to play devils advocate for a minute. When it comes to breaking news, stories from channels like Timcast are secondary news sources. Primary sources like main stream media outlets are favored simply due to the fact that they have the resources to break the news first.
As far as advertised content I'm clueless because I've had youtube premium since it came out.
I am only subbed to fox news for Gutfeld. He as done his show for what 2 years? Not once have i gotten one clip from fox news in my feed even though i am subbed. I have to actually go to the page to see if new segments from Gutfeld have posted yet. UA-cam was not bumping fox at all lol.
And now Vice is bankrupt and Timcast is booming 🤣
Tim cast won't make it 5 more years
He's a grifter on the altright and contrarian agenda 😂
@@jimmicrackhead12 "alt right" ok leftoid
@@jimmicrackhead12 awww 🤣
@@jimmicrackhead12 Why you big mad?
Tim talking about how he was told that his new boss was beneath him. Welcome to the reality thousands of people go through.
I don’t think he was told that, he discovered it.
But Tim deserves it. All he does is punch down.
I worked there for 5 years. The writing was on the wall since 2016 with the launch of Viceland.
As soon as I saw them being worried about being called out for tactless and raunchy humor and subject matter I knew it was over.
Vice's spiraling to its demise was when Disney gained partial ownership. From a viewers standpoint i remember witnessing the tone, delivery, message and wording immediately changed. That was the moment i unfollwed them and never looked back. I dipped in from time to time to witness how they developed there after and observed a compromised manufactured medium that faded away from what made it so unique in the beginning.
Valuetainment will become big one day. I believe it. Patrick is learning about the industry from all angles. I wish him well.
@@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488 rookie numbers
Patrick is a scamming life insurance salesman
yea, several TikTok kid channels w 13M+ followers
@@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488 that’s average numbers. He’s big on his own. He’s wealthy. No doubt.
But I’m talking about the company he’s building. I want it to go platinum.
@@beezowdoodoozoppitybopbopb9488 that’s average numbers. He’s big on his own. He’s wealthy. No doubt.
But I’m talking about the company he’s building. I want it to go platinum.
0:08: 📺 The corporate press, specifically Vice, has experienced a decline in popularity and financial stability despite their successful documentaries on UA-cam.
3:30: 📺 The speaker discusses the success and changes of the Vice show on UA-cam and HBO.
6:54: 😕 The speaker worked for Fusion and Vice, and while they initially had a positive experience, things changed as the companies grew and became more isolated.
9:56: 🔑 The speaker shares a story about a coworker who was promoted despite lacking competence and being involved in misconduct.
12:40: 📚 The speaker discusses the profile of people hired at Vice and the importance of having both creative and operational skills.
15:59: 💼 The speaker describes the changes that occurred in Vice Media after receiving a $70 million investment, including the replacement of long-time employees with LinkedIn professionals.
19:04: 📺 Shane Smith used assumptive language to make employees believe Vice was a bigger media empire than it actually was.
Recap by Tammy AI
Man, Tim is way better as a guest than he is as a host, usually he doesnt let his guests talk, but here with these guys mediating he is great.
Agreed
Within the first minute or so, you can see why. He's very undisciplined, like a dog distracted by every squirrel. Here, PBD stays on topic because PBD is driving the ship.
His show is a mixture of interviewing guests and presenting and evaluating the news, so it's not a pure interview show. That's why he doesn't let his guests talk as much as other interview shows. 2.o
@@lemonysnick5171 😢
I love Tim but yeah lol
Its so nice seeing someone talk over Tim for a change
Hear! Hear!
The same thing happened to me when I was the front runner for a managerial promotion. After 9 years I was passed up for a woman of color with 6 months experience at the same job. I left the museum for a managerial job at a Hilton and things have been great and my former employer has been having major problems since.
And everyone kissed, and my hair grew back, then my son got into an Ivy League college, and then everyone kissed again
This is why the U.S. is extremely uncompetitive. We have become a third world country.
You should file a lawsuit
@@armondshakir3655 Shutup clown
@headbrown5629 I seriously thought about it, but I would have to ask friends, some that still work there who have families to testify in court.
I love it when I hear I’m too white. I just reply( You should see my ass) 😂😂☘️
navel
lol... I love it, great comeback!
Too White is code for you are not Elite or you are not part of the PLUTOCRACY ; these people don't care about race and never did. They care about status and control; they love people like David because he is an Idealogue. Who is it they don't care about? : poor people period.
@@sheilaharrison8547 Thank you.
More people should sue when they are told that. Its still illegal to hire based on race and sex. Civil rights laws were created in the first place because of democrats showing favoritism to white people. We need the republican party that created those laws to now enforce those laws.
I’ve been following and rooting for Pool since the 10 ranting videos a day era. iMO TimPool and PBD would be a beautiful relationship with a broad range of audience reach.
Tim is no Tucker Carlson. Far from it. Tim's more of a crybaby who suffers from little man syndrome
Excellent point Tim made about it being UA-cam influenced for those shows. Honestly, I have always known about Vice but I’ve never specifically gone to them for content, I’d just click on it through UA-cam anyway. Makes perfect sense. Also, Vice used to be the shit, for YEARS. I worked with them for 8 years through a marketing agency and they were the rad anti establishment, no holds barred, unapologetic content n journalism. They went from that to radical woke propaganda n sell outs. All the epic people I knew are ALL GONE. And that’s a decent number of people, at least 30-40 people. They all left once things started to get woke. It’s so sad cuz I always really loved them and what they stood for. It’s a sad reality now and I don’t pay any attention to them anymore.
@Harry M don't get mad at Tim if he makes a profit from UA-cam. He is anti woke and he's for a parallel economy. He's good but far from perfect
@@harrym9655 My impressions are that he used to be better.
I picture running into Tim strolling the beach in south Florida, he’s still rocking the hat and shirt mid day, lol.
And his path never differs too far to one side of the beach.
He takes it off to brush his teeth.
Tim : "but my mom is Korean" that's the wrong argument, because it is playing into the notion of "You should get your position based on your skin color", he's just defending it with "but i'm not entirely white". Instead, he should have argued with "why does my skin color matter?"
That would be great if the argument worked for people who are perceived as white. When you argue that skin color shouldn’t matter and you are perceived as white it is automatically labeled as white supremacy to shut you up for calling out the hypocrisy.
The elites, who are predominantly white, fear the white race the most because they question the elites, challenge their edicts and refuse their placations. What better way to maintain power than to get rid of those who will not be submissive or buy into the lies?
Correct ,but we live in a culture of highly racialized thought.
Vice's work on ISIS & Ukraine' war in the East were so so good. Loved the old Vice.
The one about Liberia was very interesting to me. Very well done!
@@MrClassicmetal i totally see tims point and if you did hop on YT with a freshy private window there would be vice and many other "content" back then... but the years he's talking about were LITERALLY the golden years of VICEtv... those documentaries were sooooooo good and raw and some rode that fine line of WTF content w/o being gorey or NSFW to an extent... and they hit that super in the field hipster investigative journo vibe... shane smith and the pakistani guy, owners, did some WILD ones too.
I bet Tim's beanie was part of the reason why they didn't want him for on-screen talent.
Every time he pops up I ask myself why the winter cap agitates me so much and I genuinely don’t have an answer lmao. I just wish it were a baseball cap or something that doesn’t make it look like we’re about to leave a dive bar in the middle of Milwaukee in the winter to go out for a smoke
@Danny Crook i hate the beanie look too. It looks hobo/hippie/pothead which kind of equates to low iq, low work ethic, etc.
@@CrookDannyIt's annoying enough when I see a person wearing a stocking cap in the summer but then make that person over 40 and super into skateboarding we're talking nuclear levels of annoyance
The beanie has long ago grafted onto his head.
It's because he's bald and super self-conscious about it. He wears it constantly. He thinks it's part of his image, too.
Can you imagine seeing someone wearing a winter hat in Florida?😂 Tim, bro embrace the baldness or get a baseball cap lol
I’ve never understood why it has to be that winter hat 😂
He must have a very weird shaped head.
lmaoo it’s his brand at this point, not even sure he’d still be tim pool if he took it off
It's grafted onto his skin by now.
We can accept his hair line, its ok Tim.
Vice went woke then broke.
I unsubbed from Vice but 16.8 mill subs isn't broke!
Not really. They were booming for a long long time while woke.
@@bluenose7984 You should take an economics class.
This is the type of dude that works for you and pays attention. The check was never number one, it was more of what can I achieve here, what can I learn and what can I give back.
Tim Pool consistently has great analysis
milk toast fence sitting analysis
He just repeats what 4chan and Reddit says and puts it on UA-cam 😂😂😂
Yeah, like when he said he founded vice.
Jack Murphy
@@russell2910 he never once said that. Once again another idiot is lying to try and sound cool
Pat and Pool a national Treasure
@Gaye Lorde 🤣😂🤣😂
Imagine being worshipped because big tech allowed you to stay on the platform
@Gaye Lorde I was raised in a Hippie commune, and was only allowed to read children's books. You might be familiar with this commune, It was called "The Spahn Ranch"
@@gayelorde2577 Sorry, but that's not true.
That accusation against tim may work or may hold some water, but patrick for better or worse says what he believes and isn't a con artist in any way.
Tim, that holds far more water with because of the way he goes about things or the ''ill criticize someone for doing something then do the exact same thing but don't believe you're lying eyes'' kind of shit.
I occasionally listen to Tim’s show, I generally like him and think he is a good addition to the non-msm reporting out there. After this I have a new found respect for him, he is much brighter and more business savvy than I understood.
Tim loves the sound of Tim.
Nothing wrong with that
I mean yeah he's quite an arrogant little asshole, but even he's admitted that on his content that he's arrogant as fuck.
Its one of the problems with the timcast irl podcast in that he never lets anyone else talk, or just berates his cohosts, largely tho its been nice to see people push back and not let him just bully people.
For better or worse people like milo and alex jones just got him pipe down and let them talk.
Tim: this guy is beneath me
Wtf 😂😂😂
This reminds me of the time when Greg giraldo had talked about applying for a news position and told him he wasn't Hispanic enough. That's what he broke into his hard dialect of a Mexican speaking English and was talking about "the weather is muggy, good day to cross a river"
Legend has it Tim Pool showers with that toopid beanie on his head
Got to keep it clean somehow
To sum it up, competence works and privilege doesn’t.
The main issue with the corporate world. Terrible how they promote or just hire people who have no clue what they're doing and then they get leave or get fired...
Tim is just an American man who is a truth seeker…who also seeks to be fair minded. A good guy 👍
He's a grifter who makes millions on platforms that censors people's free speech
He also sits on the fence. For a guy who talks about civil war in the US frequently, he's not the kinda guy you would want in your foxhole. He won't lift a finger for anything other than views
@@jordanbolm8517
Yea he is one of those that really doesn’t have a backbone. If he was on the edge of REALLY getting cancelled, we all know he would cave.
Sure, and Biden got 600 million votes
He’s also a giant grifter and bald.
This was truly an outstanding video!! 2 of some of the favorite guys here on UA-cam, In the same-room!! Patrick Bet-David & Tim Pool! So glad that I subscribe to the both of them!!
😂 the co host constantly interrupt and you can tell Tim is not use to that. Lmao.
Regularly watch both of these guys! Love the collaboration.
Sometimes it’s not what you heard but where you heard it and who said it. The very thought that you are not alone in the world of AOC voters and there are three million other people who think like you is very important. It gives people hope. You don’t feel the same way when you hear the same ideas expressed on Telegram, UA-cam or on Podcast. That’s why Tucker was so important and that’s why they had to can him as soon as RFK appeared on his show.
Patrick loves giving these long never-ending examples....we get the point
Yeah thats been his problem since day 1
@@PharmacyAve he's a very special guy
Hyped up on scripts
His hypotheticals are often wiyyyyyyyuuuuuuhhhhhllllduh - so many of them during the Pakman appearance that I had to take a little break 😂
I get the point fast. I had to learn that many people don't get the point slow. They need long winded examples to get the point very slow.
Learning about more of Tim's backstory and reasoning, I see even more why I was drawn to him for information. I dropped out of high school early in the 10th grade to go to work with very similar thoughts as Tim. I got my contractor's license when I was 21, the youngest age a person could legally become a contractor in the State I was in. After 20 years of running my own business, I concluded that there would be no good future for me or my children in the trades any longer due to illegal immigration (I had workers who now live in homeless shelters because they couldn't survive on the money the illegals would work for because the illegals live with 11 other people in a one bedroom apartment and get welfare for all their children), so I went back to school and graduated university with magna cum laude distiction in a discipline comprised of very smart people. Regardless, I recognize Tim's influence and commitment to truth, while calling out blatant lies and propaganda, is extremely important for humanity at this pivotal time.
That’s a great story good for you! I don’t know what trade you were in but illegals aren’t taking work from people that are doing the highest end quality custom work
Yeah BUT also remember Tim Pool and others can not tell all the truth, just some, that IS allowed, IF they told the truth, they would not have a social media presence.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise,” hmm the question is who is George Soros? who is Zelensky? hmm
Another example go look at the huge list of those from Israel who are American business people in media and the CEO of Disney etc then you start to come to the realisation hmm maybe just maybe the "woke" agenda was the same agenda they have done to other nations in the past such as the once Christian nation of Russia turning it into their credo in 1917
and their "woke" agenda on the Russians during the Bolshevik revolution. Another example of this group this one person is responsible for the greatest mass deletion in the 20th century
about 10 million Genrikh Yagoda, they have an agenda and we are not part of it, they are at war with us.
Yes. . . Sharing one bedroom with 11 other people -- that's the "glorious" socialist future the WEF and their minions want to comdemn us to. . . but they THEMSELVES want to continue to live like Alissa Heinerscheid of Bud Light -- they want THEIR families to stay in their 7.8 million dollar homes in Manhattan and San Diego and Denver.
The Soviet-style pod-tenements are what they want for the rest of us.
There's an old Soviet movie, "The Irony of Fate, or Enjoy Your Bath" where a drunk guy accidentally goes "home" to the wrong apartment building. His key fits, the furniture inside is like his own, the refrigerator holds the same sparse food. He climbs into bed and falls asleep, not realizing he's in some random woman's apartment, until she comes home to find some random guy asleep in her bed.
cool story bro. verbal diarrhoea
Yeah. Tim said he founded vice. He's so honest.😊
the beanie has told this story hundreds of times!
Yeah but PBD's audience doesn't entirely overlap. And the lens PBD is putting around it is a little different. Adds different texture to the story.
I love your response 'define that' ,making sure they're spitting facts, excellent journalism mate.
I cant take tim pool serious with that beanie on his head.
Nah, you wearing the beanie every day had them like "he is too crunchy for us even."
Thank you Team PBD
Nice interview. Why is your outtro music three times louder than the talking?
Vice is like DVDs, great while it lasted😂 for those of us that had to use VHS 📼🤔
Good example of 'creators' and 'operator' roles in terms of company life.
Tim pools beanie is the reason Vice let him go . They said take off the beanie and he refused , that’s the facts
For you maybe
@@hitman9198 Dude he's trolling, having a little fun at tim's expense, its the internet its not too serious.
Tim Pool has changed the way I view corporate media over the past 10 years.
so you watch fox news now? is that what you're saying?
@@andrewdeen1 Fox News is corporate media if you didn't know.
I like Tim, very smart and calm!!!
But phony as hell haha
Vice was actually right wing which on rare occasions covered issues related to environmental issues. The real reason why Vice fell was because of MeToo. They had an issue where one of their top employee was accused of seggsual assault. So their solution was to hire more women and post more feminist content. That inevitably made the content to be leftwing. That lead to the downfall of Vice.
Sounds about right for someone like gavin
@@meesteranonymous8177 How so, what about Gavin?
@@MrClassicmetal idk why i posted that,
after i searched his relation to VICE and found out he was con- founder i was thinking why did he leave it to be absorbed/ corrupted by the far left?
Made me think of his statements regarding men™ in pop/nerd culture spheres and video game industry which practically results to "leave it the left"
@@meesteranonymous8177 Gavin left Vice long before any of that happened. About 10 years before that.
Vice was anti establishment an alternative to mainstream news, they were the grittier group.
''right wing'' what the hell is with people calling anything or anyone anti establishment being ''right wing''
There's something about this Tim Pool guy that makes me not trust him. It's weird.
1/3 of every show tim does is tim talking about how awesome tim is. lol. lucky for him-almost all other media is poo so the small amount of signal (vs. noise) is enough for ppl like me to put it on in the background for the 10min of dece content for every hour of record time.
I stopped listening to him. Talks about himself, interrupts others and kicked others off his show
You should always be recording during meetings so when shit like this is said you can sue the crap out of them.
Tim cast is the shit, that you for having him on
El obedecerle a ella Arruina la Atracción, e interés por ti
Para que lo entiendas, ser complaciente con tu chica, es cuando estás obedeciendo o cediendo a sus deseos y demandas; especialmente cuando no quieres hacerlo. Cuando la mayoría de los hombres hacen esto, ven que la hace feliz, y quieren hacerla feliz. Como hombres aprendemos, si hago lo que ella quiere, eso la hace feliz. Después de todo las películas, novelas, y las canciones dicen eso. Todos queremos hacer feliz a nuestra chica, así que, naturalmente, queremos hacer las cosas que le traerán felicidad. El problema con esto es que cuanto más cumplimos con sus deseos y demandas, más disminuye su atracción.
Me doy cuenta de que esto es completamente contrario a la intuición, por eso tantos hombres se equivocan. Aparte del adoctrinamiento que recibimos en los medios de comunicación, y el entretenimiento para actuar así. Nuestra forma de pensar masculina no comprende que darle lo que quiere disminuye su atracción. Eso no significa que te querrá menos, pero su atracción disminuirá un poco. Aquí es donde muchos esposos, y hombres en relaciones a largo plazo se equivocan. Piensan que será más fácil aceptar lo que ella quiere para mantenerla feliz. Con el tiempo, su atracción cae tan bajo que el sexo y el afecto físico disminuyen mucho o dejan de existir. Luego, los hombres se esfuerzan aún más por hacerla feliz, por lo que obtienen menos amor y menos sexo, y eso empeora aún más la situación. Es un círculo vicioso que nos deja frustrados e insatisfechos. Y extrañamente, las mujeres también se sienten frustradas e insatisfechas porque ya no eres emocionante, ni desafiante. Tu obediencia arruina la atracción por ella. Recuerda los seres humanos, y sobre todo las mujeres en cuestiones de atracción apreciamos lo difícil, lo que nos cuesta esfuerzo, lo gratis y lo fácil no es apreciado, ya que carece de valor. ¿O te gusta un juego de video donde no tengas que esforzarte, para lograr llegar a la meta?
Vice going down, I love it!!
I quit watching VICE about a year or so ago. It was obvious their content was "woke" and "broke" and I wasn't about to give them any more views on my behalf.
Patrick's knowledge is so deep.
Gavin Mcinnes challenges Tim Pools claim that he was a founding member of Vice. Gavin said it was founded in 1994. Tim did not join until 2013/2014
I thought Tim claimed he was a founding member of the Vice News (live reporting) as opposed to the magazine.
He was fired because he wouldnt remove his hat.
LOL
Tim with the “what do you mean guys like me?” thinking he’s the main character when he can’t even take his beanie off bc of insecurity man that’s wild.
I loved Ryan Duffy's Vice documentary on Scopolamine. Very well done.
Tom pool had NOTHING to do with vice. Bring on GAVIN MCCINES ! He’s the founder of vice!
But everything to do with Vice News
No. Vice news already existed. It was t called vice news. All he did was change the title.
@@joshjosh575 and Shane Smith credits Tim for the success of that division 🤷🏻♂️
Vice requested he removed his hat and he was having none of it.
Too White 😂😂😂🎉
His mom is Korean tho
@@PharmacyAve Koreans are more conservative than white people.
He doesn't look white, looks fine, but
not white.
Bro, he looks Hispanic.
@@PharmacyAve His mom is Korean and Japanese
Google saying Netflix is their biggest rival and wanted to compete with it is the most dig shit I've heard this year.
No body said he was too white... they said his beanie is too stupid.
We can't all wear towels on our heads. 👳♂️💀
Trust me you want him to keep it on
Source?
State-mandated racism, under the cover of private sector HR mandates, has returned to America. So it goes.
Get Woke and go broke! My white self and my GREEN money say Fuck you! I try to spend money with companies that ARE NOT playing the racism game! Everyones money is GREEN!
Well I'm on the left and we believe all white people should be fired
Whites dont know what real racism is trust me. cause if you did
you all would loose your minds. yall are already crazy as it is imagine if
your people were enslaved beat eaten dismembered and killed for over 400 years.
and thats not even including post slavery
The guitar riff at the end…what song is it from? Please tell me! I’ve been trying to find out for MONTHS 😓
I used to work for Vice and back then we were a magazine and just getting started with the online stuff. We werent a leftist driven entity at all back then.
That's interesting because I always wondered what happened to Gavin McInnes at Vice. I also couldn't understand how someone so right wing could be punk. Unless I'm thinking of someone else. Didn't he used to dress punk?
@@8rr725 Because the left is pro-establishment, pro-corporation, pro-war now. Times have changed.
@@8rr725 Holddd up, at the time of vice being a magazine, being punk wasn't a right wing thing, being anti establishment thing.
Its just that the left wing became so establishment dick sucking from out of fucking nowhere, that punk became right wing or well ''right wing''.
Sad when your not “Woke” enough for people they just cancel you out because that’s they know they’re wrong and can’t have a legitimate reason to defend themselves
Tim put out a video saying he was a Vice founder. Vice was around for like 20 years before he started lol
He was a founder of vice news not nice
Gavin McInnes said Pool was a literal nobody at Vice 😂🎉
People always tell me I'm too White, and my response is that I wish I was even more White. My goal is to be Ultra White to the Max.
Work on being an albino, that should get you there, worked for
Johnny and Edgar Winter.
He's that busy explaining the mundane he doesn't get to the point.
Tim Pool professional fence sitter. I honestly can not believe you had him on.
Your point being?
@@hamdankhan319that was the point🙄
Fallout is one word but nice interview!
Tim Pool, on his podcast, flatout said he created Vice. It's hard to believe a word this fool says. He lies.
No he didn't lol. I've been watching Tim on UA-cam since 2014. Lol do you think it makes you special lying?
@@hitman9198 What tim has said is that he created the news faction of vice, which seems to check out or perhaps more accurately was a founding member of it.
Not of the company itself.
i suppose its how people view,buzzfeed and buzzfeed news, people couldnt tell them apart.
I remember working in the Office with VICE as a start-up in 2000, it was great then. Shane, Surooh and Gavin were down to earth, a bit crazy but great guys, then they became very woke.
I just looked and SOROS MANAGEMENT has 10% in it, now I understand what happened...
Pareto Principal: in any group endeavor, 50% of the actual productivity performed by the shareholders root of all participants involved. Generally speaking...but from what I've read it works pretty well on the facts. And btw...Tim ain't no hipster. He ain't a phony! People that identify with labels tend to be caricatures of themselves. Mad respect for both of you.
Pareto Principal is 20% do 80% of the work. Price's Law is the square root of the participants do 50% of the work. This is meant to be constructive. Keep it up the good work spreading the truth.
I could see UA-cam eventually destroying itself honestly, UA-cam keeps making mistakes forgetting what made UA-cam popular in the first place. Censorship will make UA-cam collapse and the advertisers well leave as it tries to copy Netflix and cable tv and is replaced by something that basically just original UA-cam with a different name
The square cube effect. Something can only become so big before it collapses in on itself.
YT would have collapsed a long time ago if there was ever s true alternative for people to go to.
I still remember how amazing VICE was during Syria and Crimea days.
I used to watch those docs again and again.
That Simon Ostrovsky fellow tried very hard to get some anti-Russia grift from the people of Crimea. It was good to see him fail.
😆
Vice made great content. They were my go to News Source for a while.
“Diversity and Inclusion” doesn’t always mean diversity and inclusion. 😢
Diversity is not strength, they lied to us.
Vice had a bunch of content on Ukraine way way before this war started. I don't remember if it was on Vice HBO or VICE on youtube. Does anyone know if that content is still online? I for some reason can't find it
can we please just got to work and feed our families?
Limas fake dollar was one of the best work I ever seen.
You want to learn about vice prove your free speech. Then bring on GAVIN MCINES That would be the best pod cast you ever host. You won’t be disappointed.
If they bring on Andrew tate, they can bring in Gavin, and Gavin claims he started Vice
@@jfast787 Gavin doesn’t claim. He is the founder of vice. Absolutely. Shane was the business end of vice.
He did start it along Shane and Suroosh. No claim but fact.
Dropping Gavin was the beginning of the end
Tim pool didn’t start vice Gavin McGinnis did.
I think there's a joke in there somewhere lol, like
AL Gore starting the internet?
@@bikersoncall its the truth but its easily proven with one search
@@bikersoncall Naw lol. I believed the lie time likes to spew too until i decided to look it up once. No hate just informing people cause if hed lie about that just shows how much a grifter he is even if he gets it right sometimes.
@@ZeroDrizzy Right, I like truth, the
rest is just noise... But Al Gore really
did invent the interweb , and uh... oh
yeah, electricity... I believe 'him'. 🤣
@@bikersoncall hahaha at least he didn’t claim to invent darpanet
You guys interact well together. I would like to see more of you both together.
Only tools and Waldo wear winter hats indoor and or in warm climates
His hair is cut to look like a beanie , it’s hair not hat .
Bring Tim on Valuetainment along with tucker
Tim pool is a fence sitting grifter. Controlled opposition that was evident with the Alex Jones or Kanye interviews.
Grifter? 😂🤣 Please.
PBD wants in on the grift
yeah he's become unbearable. he takes no real position under the auspice of being 'balanced'
Civil Rights Act of 1964 "prohibits the discrimination on basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin" but yet employers think they can do just that with saying "you look too white" now? It was supposed to be neutrality based on merit not to over-discriminate in the reverse direction for "appearances".