Are MUI Goku & Gohan Beast REALLY that strong?!

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  • @animeato6609
    @animeato6609 21 годину тому +141

    “IM MY FATHERS SOONNNNNNNN”
    ^
    Smartest dude in the show btw

    • @SomerandomguySSJ4
      @SomerandomguySSJ4 19 годин тому +8

      Just in case there was any confusion

    • @lightgivemepower6425
      @lightgivemepower6425 19 годин тому +4

      *Smartest dude in the show btw*
      He never was

    • @zetset8098
      @zetset8098 16 годин тому

      That's why there is only Jap dub there is no other.

    • @erendripaeger9875
      @erendripaeger9875 13 годин тому +1

      bulma is the smartest tbh

    • @PokemonZenith
      @PokemonZenith 4 години тому

      ​@@erendripaeger9875Bulma isn't a dude, she's a woman last time I checked

  • @emoelioc722
    @emoelioc722 20 годин тому +97

    1:00 crazy voice crack💀

    • @karri1879
      @karri1879 20 годин тому +9

      I was literally just about to point it out, threw me so off

    • @deaththephoenix8395
      @deaththephoenix8395 17 годин тому +6

      I saw your comment as soon as it happened and had a nice laugh

    • @er5624
      @er5624 9 годин тому +2

      😂😂

    • @runningoutofnames3CS
      @runningoutofnames3CS 6 годин тому +1

      Bros in shambles now 😭

  • @wasaba1498
    @wasaba1498 21 годину тому +73

    I'll remind you that it was Elec who contacted Frieza to lure him in, so it's quite possible that the Frieza we saw in the Granola Saga was only halfway through his training, and Elec interrupted it.
    This can be inferred from the fact that Frieza used his "Black" form in very short intervals to kill Gas and then to KO Goku and Vegeta, not trying to stay in that form. This might mean that he hadn't mastered it well enough to remain in it without side effects (just like the Golden form, which drained huge amounts of stamina before Frieza mastered it better).
    We also know that Frieza set two goals for himself: to overthrow Beerus and then to overthrow both Zenos to be at the very top, so I wouldn't be surprised if, after the events of the Granola Saga, Frieza started training again.

    • @Yugimoto6161
      @Yugimoto6161 19 годин тому +3

      i think itss more like when gku swapped from ssg to ssb jumping inbetween both forms vs dyspo, frieza is trying to conserve as much energy as possible no longer taking any chances of failure like he suffered when he got cocky after first achieving his golden form.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  19 годин тому +21

      See this is something I should've said in the video. Didn't think of it however.

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 19 годин тому

      There's a scary thought

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 19 годин тому +3

      ​@@Yugimoto6161I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that's what he said

    • @Chris_lJohnson
      @Chris_lJohnson 18 годин тому

      ​@Yugimoto6161 that's basically what he said

  • @mathiewi8020
    @mathiewi8020 13 годин тому +8

    "If we stay in the middle of the arena, we're less likely to fall off!"
    - smartest fighter in the show

  • @PluziI
    @PluziI 21 годину тому +152

    MUI Goku and Beast Gohan might be strong, but still don't compare to my guy Monaka sadly.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  21 годину тому +58

      I agree but in the video I'm talking about realistic goals.

    • @lastsamurai5861
      @lastsamurai5861 21 годину тому +8

      oolong clears no diff

    • @Champeonic
      @Champeonic 21 годину тому

      ​@@lastsamurai5861 Puar neg diffs

    • @itsm9818
      @itsm9818 20 годин тому +6

      I mean we don’t know if Monakas been training as hard as Goku and Vegeta but yeah he’s probably still way stronger than them both.

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 19 годин тому

      Krillin.... He already clashed with Goku before in super

  • @ShaudL
    @ShaudL 16 годин тому +6

    5:06 SSJ Goku didn’t fight Broly. He landed a single hit and it wasn’t even from overpowering him it was from being just being a skillful fighter
    After broly ate SSG Vegeta’s punch, vegeta THEN starts pressuring him and winning. It was obvious Vegeta was holding back at first
    Like yeah Goku is stronger definitely but your arguments exaggerate it a little imo

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому +1

      Vegeta does NOT start winning you made that up
      SSJ Goku and Broly deadass have a whole two minute fight and Goku lands at least 4 hits in the fight the rest of the fight they're moving on par with each other and blocking EACH OTHER and this is after Broly power creeps way past what he was at when he fought Vegeta.

    • @twixxo9883
      @twixxo9883 8 годин тому +1

      Vegeta was definitely giving bro the work 😭 I think this guy is bias

    • @twixxo9883
      @twixxo9883 8 годин тому +2

      I just doubled checked too, vegeta knocked broly out into Ikari form 😭😭

  • @miguelperez9906
    @miguelperez9906 21 годину тому +15

    What’s more terrifying than one broly …. Two

  • @SomerandomguySSJ4
    @SomerandomguySSJ4 20 годин тому +11

    3:46 A major difference for me between Beast and SSJ2 is Gohan trained himself similar to Goku’s level before unlocking the transformation. In Super Hero Gohan did a quick speed run to gain power and gets a new form out of it.

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 19 годин тому +1

      I just chalked it up to headcanon that the hybrid sayians get a special form, trunks did in the Goku black Arc with his rage form, Gohan got beast, and if you count it goten and trunks have fusion or super Saiyan 3

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 17 годин тому

      @@Vendetta16134 the trunks one is fan made

    • @Moongads
      @Moongads 4 години тому

      @@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Toei canon is it's own branch of canon, ss rage is by no means a fan creation

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 41 хвилина тому

      @Moongads toei canon IS fan made

    • @SomerandomguySSJ4
      @SomerandomguySSJ4 26 хвилин тому

      @@Vendetta16134 If they actually put work into these forms I would be on board. Trunks and Gohan just got angy af and created a form out of nothing. Gotenks makes sense atleast but if you’re only worth anything when you fuse it’s a bit pathetic.

  • @CharadeTV
    @CharadeTV 16 годин тому +5

    No way Goku is that much stronger than Vegeta in broly. Goku likes to put himself in danger and test his opponents. So that's why he fought in base. Also he was able to observe broly's movements, and along with his experience with ultra instinct, is a reason why he held up in base for a hot second.

  • @PluziI
    @PluziI 21 годину тому +27

    We not skipping over that voice crack at 0:59 😭

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  21 годину тому +7

      I wasn't even talking at 0:59 man...

    • @animeato6609
      @animeato6609 21 годину тому +4

      What😭

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  21 годину тому +3

      @@animeato6609 i actually wasn't lmao

    • @PluziI
      @PluziI 21 годину тому +5

      @@sixfromtokyo I was off on the timestamp by like 2 seconds cut me some slack...😭

    • @FunNHonesty
      @FunNHonesty 21 годину тому +6

      @@sixfromtokyowhen you said Gohan bruv. He said 0:59 so it isn’t missed. Great video though😂

  • @bocahcebol2815
    @bocahcebol2815 20 годин тому +7

    6:15 "Frieza especially show a lot of growth" yeah... 5cm + height seem's a lot

  • @kash2590
    @kash2590 21 годину тому +9

    couple of chiaotzu victims sadly

  • @siphezulu5119
    @siphezulu5119 20 годин тому +5

    Beast Gohan one shotting Goku is kinda of exaggerated, Yes his knock Goku out of UI but the thing is that Gohan shocked everyone who was present with is power, Whis, Beerus, Vegeta so it stands to reason that Goku would be shocked as well, in fact he was, because he wakes up and ask what was that ? So him being shocked literally translates to him not being prepared to take on that much power until he turns it up a notch. Yes UI carried him dodging a few of Gohan’s attacks but that could only get him so far. The fact that Goku gets right after he was knocked out of his form proves it wasn’t matter of inferiority on his end, it was matter of being ready. Frieza’s feat on the other hand proved his superiority, I mean he also blitzed Goku, speed = power, usually at least. Goku waking up and duelling the same Gohan more evenly, if not taking control of fight again, Gohan who didn’t power down after he landed that punch, tells the entire story. Goku still believes Frieza than him so both haven’t caught up Frieza.

    • @unrecognizably
      @unrecognizably 16 годин тому +3

      goku was lwk cooking gohan the whole time till gohan did that lmao, and even then he went right back to mui

  • @SonZackSSJ9k
    @SonZackSSJ9k 2 години тому

    The Gohan Glaze is wild with this one, I thought you of all people would know that but it appears Geb get the leg up on you again.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 20 годин тому +7

    I'll be surprised if Frieza managed to get even stronger after the three year time skip if Goku & gang confront him once again.

    • @mcgeeyeeeyeee
      @mcgeeyeeeyeee 13 годин тому

      Will you? Really? Not like it’s the 4th time they’ve done this already in one show

  • @BrandonGarzon-e4i
    @BrandonGarzon-e4i 21 годину тому +13

    I once again agree with six like i kept saying gohan did not show his true power against goku gohan literally says he used the max amount of power he can use WITHOUT losing control which OBVIOUSLY means he has more see people if you would actually read instead of crying but muh mya favorite you would understand better 😂

  • @rinoyujin
    @rinoyujin 17 годин тому +1

    Had a DBZ Legends commercial before this

  • @Austinfdp
    @Austinfdp Годину тому +1

    dang didnt know uncs voice crack still

  • @reddog8841
    @reddog8841 21 годину тому +4

    In the anime: Yes and No, they are strong but they don't get the same glaze as Super Broly did from Akira interview and the movie itself along with Novels and promotional material. But Beast did get more glaze in the Movie continuation then Goku as they pushed him and Cell Max > Goku individually.
    In the manga: Both are the same shit, equal in power and weaker then Beerus which = who cares

  • @Teekayhuey_TK
    @Teekayhuey_TK 7 годин тому

    Hi dude just wanted to elaborate at 4:50 in the light novel its explained that Goku actually outmatched Broly in skill. So much that it made up the difference.
    Goku is very skilled when you actually disect the Goku vs Hit fight, which is his best skill feat to date.

  • @DJLegend16
    @DJLegend16 20 годин тому +5

    About the whole Goku > Vegeta thing.
    Vegeta can definitely be weaker than Goku but viewing it as Base Goku > God Vegeta or even SS Goku is a bit wild to me. Vegeta didn’t damage Wrathful Broly in God mode for sure but we don’t know how much power he went in with. Vegeta is going for the kill (at least moments before) but he never suggest he is going all out or even looks the part. Him and Broly clash a bit but nothing really even has the chance to happen. Vegeta fires no blast or anything at the wrathful Broly. For base Broly Vegeta did try and kill him but he’s not exhausted at all after firing the blast and most likely used only what was needed to kill base Broly before the power up. Goku then takes the stage then and in SS and in base Goku is getting cooked, and does no damage to Broly. Nothing there to suggest that he’s stronger than God Vegeta. He clashes with Broly but so does God Vegeta for a second before Goku took over the fight. Even in God Goku gets overpowered, so their showings are pretty similar in both God forms, it’s just that Goku got more time. Now Broly is bigger and stronger, but again Vegeta is holding back against the weaker Broly and when Wrathful comes up, he doesn’t sustain any damage and doesn’t even get a chance to try to deal any real damage.
    As for the statement in the video about Vegeta chasing to catch up to Goku, imo it was clearly talking about UI Goku. It says Goku’s power is approaching the Gods and that’s something very in line with UI. Even if you want to count it as Blue Goku though, Vegeta trying to catch up is again fine because he can be weaker than Goku, but it being by that much just doesn’t fit with the reasonings given imo.

    • @RandomYnontheinternet
      @RandomYnontheinternet 18 годин тому +1

      Ty

    • @diamantemrobinson
      @diamantemrobinson 9 годин тому +1

      Bro exactly I just said the same thing. He tweaking.

    • @Mexican1632
      @Mexican1632 8 годин тому

      Also the one thing in the cell Max movie was how vegeta was stronger in base than goku.

    • @sc-1918
      @sc-1918 5 годин тому

      @@Mexican1632 they ended up in the same state + goku wa heavily holdingback

    • @Mexican1632
      @Mexican1632 4 години тому

      @@sc-1918 they ended at the same place yes but vegeta was able to stay standing.
      How do you know goku was holding back?

  • @scorpian2722
    @scorpian2722 16 годин тому +3

    Hey Six by any chance are you willing to talk about record of ragnarok?

  • @trisxart2393
    @trisxart2393 20 годин тому +2

    5:00 Six, no, just no... Why does strength always relate to just power? What about Skill? It's why Goku last longer in fights in any form he uses. Plus hes the main character, so they have to get him the spotlight. Also broly punched ssjg vegeta one time and ssjg vegeta took the attack with no damage, he could have kept fighting Broly, but then it was Gokus turn. You lastly have to consider that transformations stack a multiplier on thier base forms, which means theres no reason why gokus super siayan for example would be higher than a 50x. Its always seen that Goku and Vegeta are relative to eachother in power, always.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  20 годин тому +3

      Well in the movie you see Broly and Goku moving relative in speed and no amount of skill makes blocking a punch take less damage so it's 100% power related. Vegeta took no damage but he got sent flying through a mountain and it being Goku's turn I explain in the video he took over on Vegeta's behalf (meaning Vegeta was losing) it being Goku's turn also doesn't matter Broly powers up from when he fought Vegeta and Goku matches it. I also never said Goku's ssj is higher tthan 50x and while it might be SEEN they are relative reality is they aren't

    • @ChaosGodEnerjak
      @ChaosGodEnerjak 19 годин тому +1

      @@sixfromtokyo I don’t think you’re wrong but I do think there’s still an argument that Vegeta is holding and just powering up via transformations rather than using his true power there. Similar to how you could argue he was doing with Katopelsa in the anime or Goku was during his initial match against Caulifla.
      Broly all does tank the initial punch from SSG Vegeta but they continue fighting somewhat evenly briefly before Goku takes over. Later on, both Goku and Vegeta move relative to each other while fighting and evading SSJ Broly with no real sign of power loss from Goku. Their combined blast could be seen as them being portrayed as similar to each other in power.
      As far as Vegeta desperately trying to catch up to Goku, you could interpret that as Vegeta not having forms on par with UI and trying to catch up to Goku’s maximum power.
      Granted, this is DBS, so you could easily say Vegeta just grew in power and was able to match Goku cause that’s just how power-ups work in DBS. On top of that Goku was in the ToP longer so his base power could’ve grown farther than Vegeta’s anyways. I think both interpretations can work either way personally.

    • @itsamps9100
      @itsamps9100 11 годин тому +1

      Thank you i was just about to comment this

  • @johnyyyboyboy
    @johnyyyboyboy 7 годин тому +4

    *Fun fact about Black frieza* Toriyama has stated that Goku and Vegeta are to surpass Whis within 3 years of Dragon ball timeline before Goku meets with Uub in the world tournament. According to the movie, Broly in fact already is almost if not as strong as Beerus, and Gohan beast is about the same. If you put 1 and 1 together, logic says that Frieza Black already surpassed Beerus by far measures; Frieza Black right now is strong enough to one shot Beerus. *"But we haven't seen Beerus at full power yet"* -Beerus fans coping. Don't expect Goku to fight Beerus to show who is ultimately stronger, because that fight will *never* happen. Instead, the villains that are about to come in the future arcs are an indication of Goku and Vegeta surpassing Beerus. Right now at this moment, Goku and Vegeta aren't aiming to surpass Beerus, they are already on the road to surpassing Whis, and far from it since they got one shot by Black Frieza.
    Personally, I think Black Frieza is not far off from Whis. Here is why:
    Akira Toriyama said that Super will end within 3 years of the story timeline after Goku and Vegeta surpass Beerus, Broly AND Whis.
    He said it in that order in an interview, meaning that Broly is or will be above Beerus. New information from Bandai Namco (2024 October) came out that Vegito blue and Gogeta blue are above Ultra Instinct Goku. Akira toriyama said that Beerus is a 10 (Max power) and Whis is a 15 (Max power)
    There are *3 statements* in the anime that we can use to scale how powerful max power Beerus is:
    1. During the Fused Zamasu fight, when Goku and Vegeta fused to become Vegito Blue, Supreme Kai said *"They might have even surpassed the Gods of destruction!"*
    2. Whis's statement on Beerus's planet in the anime after sparring with both Goku and Vegeta After resurrection of Frieza movie and before the Broly movie "If both of you *worked together* , you can beat Beerus".
    3. Whis's exact words in the Broly movie after Gogeta instant transmissioned in front of him "Oh so you two can *work together* ".
    Confirming Akira Toriyama saying to fans that Vegito blue and Gogeta blue are above Beerus. If that isn't enough, in Akira Toriyama's last interview before his passing he stated that Bandai Namco --Sparking Zero game chart is the true indication of each character's position in the power scale. Proving that Blue Gogeta was in fact not below Beerus.
    Frieza saw Gogeta before the tournament of power and after the tournament he went to train for 10 years to surpass every enemy before him. Black frieza is a form that can take Gogeta on, because it doesn't make sense to be in this black form and not expect them to fuse to try to beat him. Also, Gogeta Blue cannot one shot ultra instinct, neither can Beerus, because Gogeta had a bit of a struggle with Broly himself, who is as powerful as ultra instinct Goku stated by Bandai Namco.
    Granola wished to become the strongest mortal in the universe which includes Broly (9) making Granola at least a (9) as well. We saw that both Goku and Vegeta were almost equal to him.
    Then came another guy (Gas) who was more powerful than Granola. Frieza one shot that guy in his normal form. *"Why did Frieza turn black to one shot Goku and Vegeta then If he is so powerful?"* -Beerus fans coping. Frieza turned black to show superiority, not because he had to, and then proceeded to one shot Ultra Instinct Goku and Ego Vegeta without effort and spared them because they were so below him they became irrelevant to him.
    Like I mentioned before, Bandai (2024 October) came out with information that Ultra instinct Goku is a (9). Full power Jiren is a (9). Which makes Belmod a (9) as well. Beerus was stated to be the strongest God of destruction which is safe to say that everyone else is a (9), *but wait!* According to Bandai Namco, Vegeta Blue evolved is an (8). Whis has also stated that Vegeta would already be a God of destruction in one of the other universes. This means that the weakest among the Gods of destruction must also be an (8). This makes total sense as to why Beerus struggled with the other gods of destruction during the tournament of power in the manga. Let's not forget that before the Gods of destruction match started, the Grand Priest said word by word "Those who refuse to give it their all, shall be *terminated* according to his Majesty". But for the benefit of the doubt for Beerus fans, let's say he didn't showcase his full power. *"B...b..bu... but Beerus still has the incomplete ultra instinct" -Beerus fans coping. That might be true, but remember Akira Toriyama's statement: Beerus is a 10 (Max power). So no matter what power ups he hasn't shown, he will ultimately be a 10. So far Super has lasted 1 year In the anime, and Beerus lived a million years to get to 10. Even if he trained 1 year ever since meeting Goku and Vegeta, it won't put a dent on his full power.
    Also, Remember this, Goku was a (9) before the Moro and Granola arc. Based on how power scaling works in super, I don't think he got much of a budge from that spot, but let's just say he is a 9.5 right now when he fought Gohan beast in the latest Manga chapter.
    At the beginning of the Granola Arc before Goku and Vegeta set off to planet Cereal, Whis was sparring Ultra instinct Goku. Whis stated that Goku has one last form for his ultra instinct, but in order to get it, he has to develop his own unique style. Personally, I would say that Black Frieza is a (12). At this point they have to speed up going up the ladder to reach Whis, because assuming Dragon ball super will end before 2030? How many more power ups can they have, and it is ridiculous if they keep getting any more. I don't think they will surpass Whis individually. Every logic is pointing out that the end of Super of fighting Whis and winning, has to do with fusion.
    *Extra:* Bandai Namco shows Goku red as a (7). This also confirms the statement Beerus made in the *Battle of Gods movie* that he went 70% against Goku. It all makes sense now. Every new transformation Goku and Vegeta get is 10% up from the previous one.
    *"B...bu...bu-bu..but Akira Toriyama said Goku and Vegeta will never surpass Beerus and Whis"* -Beerus fans coping
    *Fact check*
    Akira Toriyama's first interview after the first chapter of Super manga release (drawn by Toyotaro):
    *“Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.,”* said Toriyama.
    He never said *never.* He simply implied that as of right now, they aren't supposed to surpass Beerus and Whis. This interview was more than 10 years ago.
    *"ARGGH!! Bu....bu...bu...bu!! But it was stated that Beerus is stronger than Black Frieza!! I saw it with my own eyes on Dragon Ball UA-camr videos!! They said Beerus can one shot Black Frieza easily eyes closed while eating ice cream! Hakai Hakai Hawk Tuah!!''* -Beerus fans coping.
    *Fact check*
    After Black Frieza was revealed in the Manga, an official description of December 2023 VJump's magazine came out with a side blurb: *Close to even God of Destruction?!*
    Beerus was once again *never* stated to be stronger than Black Frieza.
    "Close" does not mean "below". You can be 0 or 2, but you both are equally close to 1.
    Black Frieza cannot be a (9) obviously, because he effortlessly 1 shot Ultra Instinct Goku. At the very least, for some illogical reason even though he managed to 1 tap Gas in his base form, he will be equal to Beerus, which is unlikely.
    ---------------
    This will be the future of Goku and Vegeta assuming their previous forms from red (7) won't level up to be for example an (8) even after training; The symbol (~) means the transformation still has room to grow until it reaches it's full potential and the word "Fusion" refers to Gogeta or Vegito:
    Red (7)
    Blue (8)
    Ultra Instinct/Ego/Legendary Broly/Gohan Beast (9~)
    Beerus (10)
    Ultra instinct 2 [Goku's version]/Fusion + Blue (11~)
    Black Frieza (12)
    Fusion + Ultra Instinct + Ego (13~?)
    Whis (15)

    • @Est_1.997
      @Est_1.997 3 години тому

      Majin vegeta is a 7 in sparking zero & SSG Goku is a 7. The sparking zero game is not a true indicator of strength of characters

    • @raikiriramen6257
      @raikiriramen6257 3 години тому +1

      ​@@Est_1.997 Kid Buu is 7 and he used to be stronger than Beerus. Master Roshi is a 2 and was managing well against 5's in the tournament of power.
      If you read the whole thing, the guy is saying that the power boost isn't that much of a difference. Red Goku and Vegeta are stronger than Majin Vegeta, but they are both categorized in 7 because the difference in power is smaller than the difference between red and blue.

  • @zetset8098
    @zetset8098 16 годин тому

    Let's start with chapter 101 and conversation between Goku and Beerus. Beerus said: "And once you're stronger than me I'will nominate you as the next god of destruction". That's mean candidate of god of destruction must be minimum strong as Beerus.
    In chapter 103 Whis and Beerus talking about Gohan as a candidate because they see how strong he is. The only one problem is his personality, they say nothing about his power.
    How many times Beerus and Whis was talking about someone in that way?
    I think Gohan in raw power can be even stronger than we think.

  • @darrellsimon4462
    @darrellsimon4462 19 годин тому

    To be fair broly might not remember what he did during the broly movie once he snapped

  • @royalrolla
    @royalrolla 19 годин тому

    piccolo a master manipulator trying to mess w gohans emotions for a power up 😂😂😂

  • @unclephillymya
    @unclephillymya 21 годину тому +2

    Keep cooking those DragonBall videos and we'll keep eating 6ix-sama

  • @JimmyHopkins-bw9jb
    @JimmyHopkins-bw9jb 20 годин тому +2

    Yall really be talking about dbz power levels like itll amount to any impressive feats. The same fast punch, ki blast bs

  • @SHEANGOMES
    @SHEANGOMES 2 години тому

    4:45 Vegeta is pretty objectively not going full power in God form unless youre implying that BASE GOKU is several TRILLIONS of time stronger than God Vegeta...
    This is Blue Goku vs Krillin all over again, and DB fans continue to be unable to read between the punches

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 20 годин тому +1

    Maybe the intergalactic tyrant's endgame is dethroning the two Omni Kings so that he'll rule over the entire Multiverse. Just like in the videos from UA-camr Rising Fist.

  • @tmmmedia731
    @tmmmedia731 12 годин тому

    Energy is real. Levitation is not only possible people do it today. The more people study energy and gain the awareness, the stronger that source of energy gets.
    Study hermetics taoism Buddhism yoga etc. dig deep it’s all there out in the open. But people just laugh cuz they don’t believe

  • @teeboz6237
    @teeboz6237 2 години тому

    DBS Broly is not the anime continuity( it’s the manga continuity. Shueshia and TOEI literally threw an entire canon tour in 2027 before it’s released to clear up what was canon and what wasn’t. It came down to DB volumes 1-42, Jacos manga, DB minus, FnF and DBS Broly. The 2 movies because they didn’t have full manga adaptations and that hasn’t changed. We know in the manga that Goku and Vegeta just before the movie ere about equal and straight after too. So the difference in performance is simply Vegeta testing the antagonist and then Goku getting his time to shine, that’s it. They’re equal in the movie because they are in the manga. In fact, Vegeta was even more fatigued than Goku when they fought Broly together and did just as well. They couldn’t have fused without them being equal either and there was zero talk of matching power levels, just straight to fusion.

  • @matijajunger4800
    @matijajunger4800 18 годин тому +1

    Based on the last DBS chapter I would say Goku, Broly, Gohan and Vegeta are relative to each other rn based on the showings.
    There are a lot of caveats there as Goku was winning before and after Gohan used his boost as Gohan can't maintain that lvl of chi as it appears. After hitting Goku he had a sweat mark and got pushed back by UI right after while he also appeared to be irritated.
    Goku also said he wasn't trying to beat him and also blitzed him at one point. I mean he didn't try to use his "Susanoo" for example.
    Going all out berserk Gohan or Broly would be the strongest rn tho. Hard to say how much stronger Broly is now etc.
    Black Frieza is likely stronger then any of them tho as he should be the big villain to beat.

    • @Slyrock-1000
      @Slyrock-1000 15 годин тому

      When Gohan boosted his chi and hit Goku it knocked Goku out of UI. In a real fight he would've blitzed and killed him immediately. Also Goku wasn't saying he wasn't trying against Gohan he was saying there was no need to finish the fight because the fight wasn't about getting victor out of it which is why he was fine not finishing this fight

    • @matijajunger4800
      @matijajunger4800 14 годин тому +1

      @Slyrock-1000 Gohan landed 2 hits on Goku and knocked him out of UI for a moment. He didn't knocke him out and Goku immediately went back to UI and was winning after that again. He even looked to Broly mid fight and knocked Gohan back and said Broly should fight Gohan.
      I never said Goku wasn't trying because he was. Goku however obviously based on the fight and his own words didn't go all out and Gohan did as he said so himself.
      They are obviously relative.
      That being said I think Gohan would win a real fight as he is just stronger when he riles up his chi and would win a beam clash if it came to that and could maybe go berserk as he implied something akin to that.

    • @Slyrock-1000
      @Slyrock-1000 14 годин тому

      @matijajunger4800 both were going full power according to the dragon ball official website and Toyotaro. They just weren't using killing intent meaning when Gohan knocked him out of UI even though it was for a second thats all the time Gohan would need to blitz and kill a base Goku. Goku also was not winning the fight after that point he merely pushed him back which did zero damage. But yes I agree with you that Gohan wins a real fight between the two

    • @matijajunger4800
      @matijajunger4800 14 годин тому

      @Slyrock-1000 Where did Toyotaro say this and on which website exactly is this stated?
      The only clean hit Gohan landed was when he riled up his chi. The rest of the time he didn't hit Goku while Goku was hitting him so yes Goku was winning.
      In the end Goku looks at Broly mid fight and hits Gohan with his palm so he flies away. No one even took any real damage. Not even Goku who got knocked out of UI for a moment.

    • @Slyrock-1000
      @Slyrock-1000 9 годин тому

      @@matijajunger4800 it's on the official website. Also Goku was in pain if Gohan wanted there's no way Goku in base was about to survive a bltiz from Beast Gohan

  • @blackxel6414
    @blackxel6414 13 годин тому

    Nope. No one will ever be able to convince me that Base or SSJ Goku is stronger than SSJG Vegeta in the Broly movie

  • @dziosdzynes7663
    @dziosdzynes7663 18 годин тому +1

    They might just be on par with farmer with the shotgun

  • @THEICON5146
    @THEICON5146 19 годин тому

    I want this same video for Ultra Ego Vegeta please next

  • @leafbladie
    @leafbladie 20 годин тому

    5:40 in the story boards for the scene there was no mention of ultra instinct so probably not the intent of the scene. The novelization makes no mention of it either.

  • @Jay-XVIII
    @Jay-XVIII 21 годину тому +3

    I’m early!!! Let’s get it!!

  • @LizardKingRequiem
    @LizardKingRequiem 11 годин тому

    Its crazy how earth, a “backwater planet”, manages to create time travel and robots stronger than martial arts masters that have trained throughout the cosmos for decades and acheived techniques of the Gods.
    But meanwhile, the universe whose entire universe SURVIVAL team was robots (or most of them idk only aniraza mattered lmao) and whose G.o.D is literally in a MECH SUIT, was basically just FODDER LMAOOOO

  • @ImCelest
    @ImCelest 14 годин тому +1

    Broly is stronger than both of them

  • @funnymano7497
    @funnymano7497 21 годину тому

    more dbz content plz

  • @foster9315
    @foster9315 10 годин тому

    If you’re right and Goku in base form is as strong as Vegeta in SSG then holy shit are power levels truly dead in super lmao
    No matter which multiplier you’re going with this is such an insane difference in level. This might be the biggest gap between these two we’ve ever seen, even considering SSJ3 in Buu saga

  • @lowkeyajin2965
    @lowkeyajin2965 19 годин тому

    I been saying Goku was stronger than vegeta in the Broly movie. Supported by the fact that fatigued base Goku was fighting full powered Jiren in the t.o.p but ppl be calling cap on that.😂

  • @romhacher5160
    @romhacher5160 18 годин тому

    I could be wrong but piccolo states that The power boost goku got from the failed ritual was nothing more then “briefly becoming stronger” so it’s doubtful that the energy lasted in the beerus fight since it went away so quickly, also goku is getting energy from gohan and Vegeta, but kid trunks and goten and especially fetus pan are not giving goku a noticeable boost in comparison to the potara that multiples goku and Vegeta and god goku is stronger then that,
    Goku with their energy at the very best is like 4 times stronger then he normally would be,
    And that boost is signified by the white sparkly effect goku gets and we see it go away within like 20 seconds, i feel like the saiyans poring their energy into goku is a very weak argument for why the initial god form would be stronger then later uses and a better argument would have to do with goku absorbing it into his base

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      That's not really what I was talking about I'm saying that same thing happens in the ritual anyway.

  • @kyl0ooart
    @kyl0ooart 20 годин тому +2

    I think the statement of vegeta trying to catch up to goku is from the fact that goku has reached ui and vegeta doesnt hasnt come close to that. while vegeta was fighting broly in god form he doesnt take any significant damage or even show fatigue before goku jumps in.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  20 годин тому

      Goku can't even use UI willingly at this point and the statement is made about his current power since it says he's approaching the gods so no.

    • @RandomYnontheinternet
      @RandomYnontheinternet 18 годин тому

      Agreed at that time it was different

  • @tape2263
    @tape2263 20 годин тому

    can we please get a video of how strong goten and trunks are in high school? even the gammas decided to glaze them in the fight against cell max in the manga. they even fought against broly in the last chapter unfused

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 20 годин тому +1

    Thank you for cooking another top tier Dragon Ball Super video. 👍

  • @alexdeghost2729
    @alexdeghost2729 21 годину тому +1

    Yes

  • @Kidkinsey
    @Kidkinsey 5 годин тому

    Bro what are you talking about? SSG is clearly a 10000x multiplier

  • @rif5556
    @rif5556 9 годин тому

    Trying to powerscale Dragon Ball Super is a hell of a thing to do man 😭 DBS scaling is the epitome of nonsense

  • @ChezThefootballer
    @ChezThefootballer 14 годин тому

    13:43 obviously gohan the goku Frieza did against was a weakened goku who was in tui which is his weaker than mui plus gokus stronger I think it’s not fair to say Frieza was holding back just because did that to gas doesn’t mean he was holding back against goku yeah he might of not wanted to kill them but that doesn’t mean he was holding back btw gas was on deaths door

  • @OmniDivin
    @OmniDivin 9 годин тому

    Moro isn't stronger than the Gods of Destruction lol. The text says he surpasses God referring to the Grand Supreme Kai.

  • @IlyMelley
    @IlyMelley 16 годин тому +1

    13:40 i would say frieza. He did this to an ultra ego vegeta as well, and vegeta even comments on how they need to catch up to frieza now, meaning they arent on his level just yet

  • @GGDAWG7
    @GGDAWG7 20 годин тому

    Wasn’t Goku also relatively tired from fighting for so long when Freiza one shot him? Also was he potentially letting his guard down? Yes he was on MUI, but Goku does Goku things and might not have expected Black Frieza to be so powerful that he took that punch and knocked him out of MUI. Meanwhile he’s training with Beast Gohan and actively in the mindset of battle and he got one shot.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  20 годин тому +3

      @@GGDAWG7 No, he just got healed by the namekian guy. UI dodges on its own there is no letting guard down "goku does goku things" doesn't mean anything lmao.

    • @GGDAWG7
      @GGDAWG7 19 годин тому

      @ hmm fair, I haven’t read the chapter myself and everyone who talks about it cuts bits and pieces of it so didn’t quite understand how the fight and encounter with Frieza played out.

  • @diggs825
    @diggs825 16 годин тому

    Goku was not about to go Ui in the Broly movie.

  • @NotCharAznable
    @NotCharAznable 3 години тому

    It doesn’t matter when the writing is so inconsistent.

  • @Chris_lJohnson
    @Chris_lJohnson 18 годин тому

    I think goku just didn't think vegito could beat beerus and wanted to try and see if this super saiyan god could. Since ssg was a mystery he wouldn't be able to actually know if God would be stronger than vegito. He then said ssg was the strongest ki he's ever felt. But he didn't actually feel ssj3 vegitos power level since he never used it. And I'm sure goku and vegeta got stronger over the time skip of 4 years. So ssg would have an even bigger Amp over buu saga ssj3 vegito which goku was compared to. Vegito would be stronger than his buu saga self.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      He says ssg was power beyond his imagination though meaning it was even greater than he thought it would be.

  • @Hakaishin-225
    @Hakaishin-225 11 годин тому

    Theyre only a fraction of my glorious goat Tien's full power

  • @pressurefrmtheraw1072
    @pressurefrmtheraw1072 20 годин тому

    I want a gohan broly goku 17 buu vegeta and piccolo arc so bad. They the only ones who should confront black frieza. Keep krillin and 18 asses at home. And idc for goten and trunks

  • @Vendetta16134
    @Vendetta16134 20 годин тому

    I do agree the beast form is unearned, however at the same time it is kind of implied now that all the hybrid saiyans have that kind of special transformation like trunks with his rage form in the Goku black Arc, gohan with beast, and if you count it which I personally do gotanks with super Saiyan 3 or fusion for Goten and trunks. also with the whole Goku throwing hands with broly while God Vegeta is overpowered by him you could argue broly isn't trying his best against Goku until later in the fight due to his biology because Vegeta is their target, not goku. Like while fighting Vegeta broly and Vegeta were way more destructive than Goku and broly were, there was no clear sign that broly was having doubts against Vegeta like against Goku when Goku froze him in place. If you want to argue that. Also on the contrary to popular belief I think Vegeta was holding back on broly up to a certain point. I also think gohan has the better feat for it but I'm not 100% cuz we don't know to the extent that both of them were holding back until we see them actually fight to kill again. but all in all good video man

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 17 годин тому

      trunks form never happened in the manga

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 12 годин тому

      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 I'm aware but it does exist, kinda like the ssbe and perfected blue in the manga deal.

    • @sc-1918
      @sc-1918 4 години тому

      " it is kind of implied now that all the hybrid saiyans have that kind of special transformation" no its not what are you talking about

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 2 години тому

      @sc-1918 my phrasing is wrong but what I'm saying is each have a transformation/power up the others can't use

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 39 хвилин тому

      @@Vendetta16134 only gohan does, anybody can use fusion.

  • @thevipez8740
    @thevipez8740 9 годин тому +2

    This is a terrible video
    "One shots goku"
    You mean when Goku gets up right after, isn't knocked out, took basically zero damage (Toyotaro doesn't even draw the small scratches in some panels), makes a *JOKE* face, then goes right back into MUI like nothing happened?
    This is a one shot?????????? Bro what💀
    Goku was completely unfazed by it and took essentially zero damage and continued like nothing even happened. While later on in the fight Goku completely *OVERPOWERS* Gohan to the point that Gohan gets visibly angry. Gohan at no point ever made Goku visibly angry during the fight, while Goku not even going all out completely overpowering Gohan made him visibly angry, that should tell you who was stronger in this fight lol

    • @thevipez8740
      @thevipez8740 9 годин тому +1

      And you say too that its up for interpretation which "one shot" is more impressive Frieza vs gohans????????????????
      Frieza stone cold KNOCKS OUT both Goku and Vegeta, Gohan doesn't even damage Goku in any significant way, LOL WHAT IS THIS VIDEO LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 32 хвилини тому

      except that's all in your head so nothing you said is relevant at all

  • @kaienglish271
    @kaienglish271 20 годин тому

    I don’t think Goku has even come close to closing the Gap between him and Frieza. I think Frieza would still one shot all of them. I also believe Gohan in later arcs won’t be able to improve as much as Goku and Vegeta.

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 19 годин тому

      Why wouldn't Gohan be able to improve when he has far more potential than both Goku and Vegeta? Lols

    • @kaienglish271
      @kaienglish271 18 годин тому

      @ Gohan has kinda already said what his Max power is unless he goes berserk. Goku and Vegeta currently have forms that get stronger as their mindset changes. Gohan won’t reach angel and GOD levels of power but they will

    • @cheeseburgerfreddy6350
      @cheeseburgerfreddy6350 18 годин тому

      @@kaienglish271 Who said they'll reach angel levels of power? And what makes you think Gohan can't go further with his beast form? Whatever Goku can do, Gohan can do better just accept it Gohan is better than them.

    • @kaienglish271
      @kaienglish271 17 годин тому +1

      @ Well the fact they literally told Goku there are levels to UI and he’s at the bottom , Vegeta hasn’t used destruction properly. What suggest Gohan can go any further this is his peak. Gohan literally can’t idk what u been reading.

  • @GreyLeo
    @GreyLeo 19 годин тому

    I stand by this Gohan Beast is as strong as Gas the super old version. Not really a threat for Frieza but impressive compared to Goku and others

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 17 годин тому +1

      no that gas is just above handicapped ui, whereas gohan fought a calm ui after a year or so of training.

  • @user-clo
    @user-clo 14 годин тому

    chiaotzu victims

  • @TrevorD19
    @TrevorD19 19 годин тому

    Gohan is 1/4 demon, true/false.

  • @SpeakHerMusic
    @SpeakHerMusic 21 годину тому +4

    5:26 this feels nit picky. Using this logic how is gokus base stronger than ssg vegeta when he never really took much damage goku just jumped in their fight

    • @arpadszabo661
      @arpadszabo661 20 годин тому +1

      That part wasn’t nitpicky, just blatantly false. Like, okay, Goku is probably somewhat stronger than Vegeta, but saying that Goku in base is stronger than ssg Vegeta, because “ssg is not that much of a multiplier anymore” is just wild. If base Goku was that much stronger than Vegeta that Vegeta can’t catch up to him even after going ssg, then their fight in base form during superhero wouldn’t be an almost draw victory for Vegeta, but Goku would kill him with one punch.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      Yea reducing my argument to just "SSG isn't that much of a multiplier anymore" is peak disingenuous and to respond to your super hero point Vegeta would simply have gotten stronger, if you go by the manga continuity that is shown to be 100% true we see him get a lot stronger.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      You don't have to take damage to show you're weaker than someone in Dragon Ball. Vegeta blatantly got pressed out by Broly and Goku did far better against Broly who powered up even further.

    • @SpeakHerMusic
      @SpeakHerMusic 14 годин тому

      @sixfromtokyo you don't have to take damage but there also was nothing about that scene that implies what you took from it. Like not even in the slightest. Vegeta got pushed back didn't have a single scratch on him then broly powers up some unspecified amount and boxes with goku who isn't doing nearly as good as you think. Idek if he got a single hit in on broly for like 90% of the exchange. He's running for his life the entire time and when broly finally gets him, by your own description, he's beat so bad he struggled to get into blue. I don't see how both fights could be compared when they're so drastically different and it seems like you're giving goku a shit ton of credit for playing keep away for 5 seconds when the end result seems closer to nothing about his exchange with broly scales him above vegeta by much. Definitely not his base over ssg

    • @SpeakHerMusic
      @SpeakHerMusic 14 годин тому

      @arpadszabo661 yeah I'd say goku is probably around 2x stronger than vegeta at the most at this point in the series

  • @maritimesteak8540
    @maritimesteak8540 16 годин тому

    Nah goku and vegeta performing differently against broly is just artistic license i believe your belief comes from a misunderstanding about why broly did worse against goku then he did vegeta. Gonu may be stronger but claiming it's that big of a gap while ignoring other potential factors is dishonest imo i have to disagree with you on this point

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      What other factors did I ignore? I gave evidence to back the point and made it consistent multiple times over. "Artistic License" doesn't even make any sense but going with what I think you meant it doesn't change my argument either it can be an artistic decision bc Goku is simply stronger than Vegeta.

  • @liambotha2467
    @liambotha2467 14 годин тому

    "A simple perspective might change ur mind" - no its an ass pull. The fact that gohans potentials been unlocked 1000 times, his awakened new power over an over and suddenly he gets a form that surpasses God level powers which make no sense. The fact that ultimate Gohan trained in dragon ball super to be on par with Goky SSB was already crazy. They just needed to overcome the power creep and try nd make irrelevant characters relevant again. Piccolo and Gohan are just to nostalgia bait and they lost their place in the story a long time ago. Goku and Vegeta have had actual good journies and training that we've seen. If Gohan could've just powered up from trauma to this level why couldn't he do so any other time in the series. Why can't other just jump 15 levels of power to be the strongest

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  14 годин тому

      wasn't really tryna say it wasn't an asspull just saying the form has cool things about it as well.

    • @sc-1918
      @sc-1918 4 години тому

      he naver trained ultimate and in super hero we learn that he was slacking and rusty meaning he either weaker or barely stronger than how he was in moro, moro arc gohan was weaker than base goku

  • @matthewpletsch7523
    @matthewpletsch7523 19 годин тому

    They still all lose too Archie Sonic.

  • @CoryJonesMusic
    @CoryJonesMusic 20 годин тому

    Crashout with shotgun still no diffs

  • @Godzillagamr999
    @Godzillagamr999 20 годин тому +12

    Every time I see Beast Gohan I just get reminded of how much I hate this form and how they did Gohan so dirty by giving it to him.

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 19 годин тому

      Hell screw that!!! they did piccolo dirty!!!! At least Gohan's in the top now and haven got to beat the villain..... and I can't stress this enough.....AGAIN!!!

    • @unrecognizably
      @unrecognizably 16 годин тому +3

      @@Vendetta16134piccolo beat two ssb level threats stop chatting

    • @zetset8098
      @zetset8098 16 годин тому

      ok

    • @ironicname5901
      @ironicname5901 16 годин тому

      Okay

    • @Vendetta16134
      @Vendetta16134 12 годин тому +1

      @@unrecognizably beat two ssb level opponents with a power up he wished for and a transformation that genuinely seemed fair to give him due to him still training and his Latent potential then being favored by shenron , but you're right don't think it's being overshadowed by beast when Gohan did little to no training for it. No your right, Gohan deserved this undeserved super Saiyan 2 moment again. Stop chatting simp

  • @jaketheanimation
    @jaketheanimation 16 годин тому

    Fusing would be pointless if goku and vegeta didn’t have the same base form power if the power difference was as great as you claim vegeta would’ve just held the fusion back goku lowering his energy by THAT much would make fusing worthless broly would’ve packed gogeta even in blue the only reason gotenks didn’t have this problem was because the difference was ever so slight between goten and trunks power and was due to their age differences

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      No, Goku had gotten beaten up so they were at the same level. Funnily enough Goku asks Piccolo for a Senzu bean FIRST then when Piccolo says no he suggests fusion so what you said might be spot on for a FP Goku.

  • @EastHaki89
    @EastHaki89 20 годин тому +1

    All Saiyans fusing would be scary

  • @diamantemrobinson
    @diamantemrobinson 9 годин тому

    Goku and Vegeta were equals in Broly. They just fight differently. Goku is ahead because of UI not because of power. Vegeta was trying to get UI even after this.
    They don't clarify what form if Goku and Vegeta the gamas are equal to it could just be base as we only see Goku and Vegeta in base.
    Bruh Gohan Beast doesn't surpass SSB Gogeta nor Broly 🤦🏿‍♂️. Broly is on par with Beerus and Gogeta SSB is above that. The manga and movies is super consistent with their power. Vegito SSB full power final Kamehameha was equal to Beerus. Gogeta SSB further surpassed that level.

  • @zeth4545
    @zeth4545 Годину тому

    Pfft.. Mr. Popo still solos.

  • @bitviper3430
    @bitviper3430 21 годину тому

    Apparently not because they are both weaker than black frieza who is still weaker than Beerus

  • @superrobo
    @superrobo 19 годин тому

    It's not a one shot he gets punched in the stomach then kicked to the face and when he emerges again he's holding his cheek, so it's a two shot

    • @Slyrock-1000
      @Slyrock-1000 15 годин тому

      It is a one shot. The shot to the gut Goku actually caught it then the kick is the clean blow

    • @superrobo
      @superrobo 6 годин тому

      @Slyrock-1000 ahh that makes sense

    • @sc-1918
      @sc-1918 4 години тому

      thats a no shot, he barely took damage and was ready to fight right away

    • @Slyrock-1000
      @Slyrock-1000 3 години тому

      @sc-1918 barely took damage???? He said ouch ouch and was literally knocked out the form. Whis did Goku a similar way early in the Granolah arc

    • @superrobo
      @superrobo 3 години тому

      @Slyrock-1000 yeah it's barely, he instantly went back in MUI like nothing happened

  • @AsterikTeenus
    @AsterikTeenus 21 годину тому

    Okay, but can they beat Goku?

  • @PabloNeves26
    @PabloNeves26 19 годин тому

    What the heck is a korin?

  • @justinedwards5299
    @justinedwards5299 14 годин тому

    Vegeta preformed better than Goku vs Broly, both before and after. To say Goku in base, or ssj is stronger than god Vegeta is stupid. Especially showing blue vegeta still preformed better than goku. Despite all that we know the gammas are nowhere near Goku and Vegeta level despite the statement.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  14 годин тому

      Vegeta was fighting a weaker Broly, plain and simple. blue Vegeta performing better than Blue Goku is also a blatant lie.

    • @justinedwards5299
      @justinedwards5299 3 години тому

      @ round 1 vegeta was heavily suppressed as well. It was more of a sparring match that Vegeta was winning unanimously. it’s not tho, when blue goku and vegeta go up again Broly, Vegeta doesn’t get hit, and lands more hits. Vegeta only get hit by Broly 3 times in the entire movie.

  • @cronuslite6358
    @cronuslite6358 19 годин тому

    The amout of times discussion around super scaling has changed makes it hard for me to enjoy this video. Vegeta and Goku aren't equal anymore, god was a fusion level increase now its not, and im still upset that a fresh super saiyan kale and caulifa are anywhere near a god goku.
    And it's not even that this video is bad. Its just watching several super scaling videos and the power of UI is changing, is ego equal to mui, broly is the strongest no mui is the strongest. I can't enjoy or follow any narrative so it all just sounds like rambling to me now.

  • @Jsipki265
    @Jsipki265 21 годину тому

    Six please powerscale how long is Goku’s pubic hair in MUI 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🗿

  • @danielendless
    @danielendless 17 годин тому +2

    There's a loooot of headcanon in this one

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  15 годин тому

      Like what?

    • @BeastBoy557
      @BeastBoy557 9 годин тому

      @@sixfromtokyobase goku being stronger than god vegeta is stupid. Anyway you look at it

    • @kinginblack2845
      @kinginblack2845 5 годин тому

      ​@@BeastBoy557 Logically seems stupid but might be attributed to Goku simply being a much better fighter ,but feats do point to being Goku much superior to Vegeta atleast during the events of broly movie simply based on their performances

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k 2 години тому

      @@kinginblack2845It’s not as Vegeta literally does just as well as Goku did against Broly and if you watch Goku Vs Broly, Goku didn’t do anything until he went God.

  • @ExplosiveGrape
    @ExplosiveGrape 21 годину тому

    Atleast planetary.

  • @thevipez8740
    @thevipez8740 9 годин тому +2

    This video is beyond Gohan levels of glaze and cope LOL
    Why not even talk about idk, HOW THE FIGHT ENDED LOLLLLLLLLLLL
    The fight ends by SUPPRESSED Goku casually fighting FULL POWER Beast Gohan, gets *BORED,* one taps Gohan away completely and utterly overpowering him, to the point that Gohan actually gets visibly angry by getting dealt with so casually by Goku
    Nice of you to very conveniently just ignore this aspect of the fight, as well as Goku straight up saying that during the entire fight he was holding back lol😂

    • @SonZackSSJ9k
      @SonZackSSJ9k 2 години тому +1

      lol, Fr, check out the MightofGebaruh’s response to Revolushane.
      But fr Gohan is a massive fraud lmao

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 34 хвилини тому

      the full power gohan who stated he was holding back to maintain control? Nice of you to conveniently ignore that part.

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 34 хвилини тому

      goku never said that either

    • @thevipez8740
      @thevipez8740 28 хвилин тому +1

      @@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Read the chapter yourself, he literally says its the MAX power of his beast form
      He was in no way "holding back", he literally is huffing and puffing because of how much strain it put on him to go full power
      The "maintain control" has to do with the fact that he cant go beyond that point, he can't use his ki properly. Like Vegeta asked if he would be able to CONTROL all this ki, meaning, that if he tried powering up even further it would be too much for his body to handle and he would probably just pass out / not actually be able to fight because of the strain
      We literally see him huffing and puffing because of the strain, do you think this equals holding back? LOL
      If he is extremely strained and huffing and puffing from that max power burst, if he tried going even further beyond his max, you think he wouldnt pass out?
      He is extremely strained and huffing and puffing from using 100%, if he tried to go 110%, you think he would be fine? No he would pass out LOL

    • @thevipez8740
      @thevipez8740 26 хвилин тому +1

      @@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Goku never said what?

  • @TheDagger55
    @TheDagger55 21 годину тому +1

    !

  • @animeato6609
    @animeato6609 21 годину тому +3

    Favorite part about this video so far is that everytime six makes an argument
    He always precogs the debunks I have in my head😂

  • @antoneopitts2212
    @antoneopitts2212 20 годин тому

    I don't think goku is that much stronger than vegeta to where his base (goku) is stronger than god (vegeta) in base. If that's the case then goku should've washed vegeta when they both fought in base in the super hero movie and not get touched by him once. So they have to at least close in power.

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  19 годин тому

      They were just training and as evident by the fact they didn't transform they weren't giving it their all. Why would Goku one shot his sparring partner even if he could?

    • @antoneopitts2212
      @antoneopitts2212 18 годин тому

      @@sixfromtokyo Isn't just having a power level of just a few hundred thousand more like punching a brick wall (like in the cooler movie), so if goku's base can match vegeta's god form then vegeta should be breaking his hand on impact.
      Plus if vegeta was really that much weaker, then training with him would be practically pointless because he wouldn't be pushing goku at all even in base.

    • @sc-1918
      @sc-1918 4 години тому

      @@antoneopitts2212 did you watch dragon ball? you can spar with someone weaker than you or reduce your power lvl

  • @unclephillymya
    @unclephillymya 21 годину тому +7

    Weaker than 50 Cent Freeza 🤷‍♂️ ............

  • @Vinedsteel
    @Vinedsteel 9 годин тому

    Anti spiral

  • @goldenyak629
    @goldenyak629 19 годин тому

    Not, not really. It's all a trick.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 20 годин тому +1

    *Beerus:* "Nah, I'd still win."

  • @anubisgravatate7544
    @anubisgravatate7544 16 годин тому

    Strong but not stronger than. Goku ten years later in gt

  • @imhappy873
    @imhappy873 21 годину тому

    No views 22 seconds? bro fell off

  • @SisirMaddali-ol2wy
    @SisirMaddali-ol2wy 21 годину тому

    Not strong enoguh to beat mr satan

  • @issjuskara
    @issjuskara 21 годину тому

    first

  • @FMBeelz
    @FMBeelz 20 годин тому +7

    Superman victims 😎

    • @banettebrochacho5636
      @banettebrochacho5636 19 годин тому +4

      I mean, you’re right, but like, no shit.

    • @Prodigy_717
      @Prodigy_717 19 годин тому +1

      True

    • @5acred7
      @5acred7 19 годин тому +4

      Lol get a load of This Guy 🤓

    • @WaveHashira
      @WaveHashira 19 годин тому +3

      It's impressive how you brought up Superman when he wasn't even mentioned once in the video..... 🤦🏿

    • @darkestwilightt
      @darkestwilightt 15 годин тому

      ​@WaveHashira he doesn't have to be in the video 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @OldFolkz
    @OldFolkz 21 годину тому +2

    No they arent that strong. They both lose to GT goku

    • @alexdeghost2729
      @alexdeghost2729 21 годину тому +8

      Maybe in lala land

    • @sixfromtokyo
      @sixfromtokyo  21 годину тому +16

      lying for no reason?

    • @CoolOkay_
      @CoolOkay_ 21 годину тому +2

      Confident and wrong is crazy combo

    • @PluziI
      @PluziI 21 годину тому +5

      Get the GT verse past Big Cabba 🤣

    • @unclephillymya
      @unclephillymya 21 годину тому +2

      Get his ass outta here @six

  • @cole_p_warren
    @cole_p_warren 15 годин тому +1

    It was cool listening to Swag's most recent stream, you guys should make more content!
    Also Kendrick is overrated