Yo this made me laugh hella hard because when I was like 8 years old I tried to buy one of those human sized hamster balls off amazon. It was surprisingly cheap compared to others... only $60 when all the other ones were like $150+. It came a month later and it was just a fucking 5’ x 5’ poster of a giant hamster ball. Kms
Indeed. LTT also did a video about this and made a point about how Nvidia intentionally locking this card's potential is anti-consumer and also very wasteful.
@@mytoe420 So instead of selling gaming cards to miners.... They turn them into mining cards to sell to miners. As if thats better. Miners buy gaming cards because in a year or 2 they can be sold cheap on the used market, They dont buy mining cards because they have no resale value. What if they were ALL gaming cards, That way if a miner buys it nothing changes but now instead of these mining cards sat on store shelves doing nothing theres now many many more gaming cards available. Instead of making 20,000 GPUs with only 10,000 being gaming cards and the other 50% being miners. How about making 20,000 gaming cards and selling them......as gaming cards. 1 HDMI port, thats all the difference.
3:36 I never understood why there was an idea that 3GB cards would last a long time. By the time the 1060 3GB was released there were already several AAA games that would happily consume more than 3GB of VRAM even on lower settings.
I think its because from I think the gtx 900 era it was rare for a 1080p game to go over 3 gigs, but then textures got higher very very fast. I still think you can get away with 4 gigs though on most games like CW use 4.5
It still takes that GPU a while to chew through it so there is really not that much difference in most games, or there would be more then the same 10% Difference between the 3gb and the 6Gb there has always been.
@@JuanTorres-gn2ss yeah idk what he's on either, some games you might be limited for some settings but stuff's still plenty playable. 3 gb's workable 4 gb's pretty okay 8 gb's golden for at least a while at 1080p
Except that Nvidia doesn't allow display out on mining cards...intentionally to discourage gamers from buying them. Where is our product protection Nvidia?
@@velardechelo So you can play Dota 2 for example on an Xbox one thanks to the gaming pass ? sorry but there is no alternative for a gaming PC if you want a gaming PC. A Console is fine but if you want a gaming PC you are not looking for controller gameplay. I am not hating consoles here just imagine you want to buy a PS5 cause you really wanna play on PS5 for whatever reason and someone just says "just buy a PC till you can buy a ps5". A PC cannot do some stuff people might want from a PS5 while the PS5 cant do stuff a PC could offer you.
@@paladingeorge6098 "doesnt allow display output on mining cards..." completly false. The mining cards dont have ports to cut costs down not to "stop gamers from buying them" or anything close to that lol
I've got news from the future. Two things: 1) You can now install the latest official drivers (v551.52 as of this writing in 2024) for all the mining cards (P10X and CMP HX series) with the help of this project (will post link in different comment in case YT gets mad with links): NVIDIA-patcher, by Alexander Gavrilov. May the GPU gods bless this man. 2) As for the pci-e lanes, at least on the CMP series, you can soder the missing 0402 220nF capacitors on the back of the card to enable the full 16x. No idea if this works on the P10X series, the lanes could be defused in the chip. For the right/low price, mining cards are still viable for gaming and specially CUDA processing. Good hunt.
Even these things are insanely inflated in price right now - bought one on eBay in June to play around with for $35 - just sold it 2 days ago for $110.
@@clementm6620 bro, then you did sth really wrong. Did you sell it in an auction (thats the only way i see you possivly having bad luck and losing money)? i got a 1650 super and could sell it at for at least 1.5 times the price.
You could try an P104-100. Its a 4GB 1070 with no outputs. But there are some older revisions of it, which have a hidden DVI oder HDMI port behind the shield on the back and can also be unlocked to have 8GB, as they can only use 4GB with the stock VBIOS. The newer ones have 8GB, but none of those are buyable for a good price right now. All over 250€.
nice topic, i'm curious if you can "patch"/hack the drivers to support this card or to flash the card bios with the 1050 name. i have had modified intel's drivers in the past with mixed results... (driver issued for windows 10 32bit to work on windows 7 32bit)
@@roymarr6181 i was migrating windows 7 32 (hd clone) from my previous laptop and my new laptop have a intel hd 620, intel provides drivers only for windows 10 32/64 and windows 7 64... so i hacked the drivers to work on windows 7 with some minor issues - some screen blanking once or twice per week - until i have time to install windows 10 64 and transfer all my applications... interesting fact: games was running with higher fps on the hacked driver than the windows 10 counterpart -with some visual glitches tho-
You can get more modern drivers for it, you can either download unofficial drivers, mine are 451.xx havent updated in a while. Probably not a silver bullet solution but stability and performance are generally increased, I havent tested in any newer titles but it is good. I picked mine up for 35$ about a year ago just to use RTX voice and check out some CUDA stuff. You could always rolls up your sleeves and edit the Nvidia installer yourself if you're sketched out by unknown european driver repositories, but, this does require some level of technical ability. Also I'd expect the price to plummet once more as the DAG approaches 3gb on the Ethereum forks such as Eth Classic.
@@hilmanfachrudin5027 it's been over a year sorry, dont have it any longer. Although the last 1060 drivers installed fine 541.xx or something like that. And i dont think it had anything to do with registry mods or anything like that. I dont still have the setup sorry. Also there are guides to change the install .exe i think even Linus Tech Tips did a thing on it.
I am the one who found out how to get them working with the regedits : 3 (Mirro Reaper) And yes the card you got along with the other P10* - 90 variants are locked at PCI-E X4 1.1 while the P106 - 100 are locked at X16 1.1
I was lucky enough to get a Red Devil RX480/8GB at height of Pandemic for $100 and it games awesomely at 1080p What a beast , never goes over 63C , dual BIOS , triple fans , giant heatsink. 12 inches long. I upgraded my Pentium G3220 to a i5 4690 for $50 at same time and am happy , really happy. FPS on games I play 150-300.
Mining cards can be repurposed for another use - Stable Diffusion for AI-based image generation. Bought Nvidia P104 mining GPU for $25 and it is quite dirt cheap. Although this mining GPU were totally different than standard GPU from most of features from standard GPU were stripped out to only having PCIe 1.1 x4, at least this mining GPU could do the job.
Just to generally comment on mined GPUs, they aren't that scary, just get a mined GPU that was handled nicely and you're good to go. I got myself a mined rx 570 and it works like a charm, the temps were a bit of a problem but that's fixed now.
I make love to my gpu, there's a lot of sticky stains on it but I tell myself it's good for the cooling as the sticky stuff obsorbs the heat so every day I put lots of man juice on it
With Samsung B-Die RAM @ 3400 CL14, expect GTX 750 ti performance. When I was using it at the time, I was quite happy. The most stressful game I had at the time was Division 2, and I was running at custom medium settings @ 900p and maintaining a 45-50 fps average.
@@cheburekman696 That might be a stretch but in some case yeah. When I ran Firestrike benchmarks I was running nearly identical scores to an OCed 4770k and a GTX 750 ti.
If you can manage to installer the latest NVidia drivers on it, all you have to do is enable GPU scheduling and all your games will run using your gpu and it will even allow you to access the NVidia control panel
You can in fact use newer drivers in Linux. The open source driver works without problem on my pop is setup. On Linux you can also sidestep the atleast 4th Gen Intel issue as I can run my 106-100 on 2600k without issues. But on windows making 2nd and 3rd gen work is a huge pain in the backside.
There was this short-lived and unsuccessful at the time tech-gimmick called Lucid Virtu, it was present on Z68 chipset and maybe on some H67/H61 boards, hence Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge (2000/3000 series CPUs). It natively supported, among other things, passing discrete gpu signal through the igpu port, through bios/uefi, so low-level stuff, independent of the operating system. It was generally pointless but the performance decline was almost none. It would be a REALLY cool video if you could find a mobo like that and test it out with such a mining card.
Hey, would using a Xeon that uses the ivy bridge platform support Lucid Virtu? Thinking about putting together a build that would use Lucid Virtu. If it works, I will make a video of how well it does. (If xeons work) Intel Xeon E3-1275 V2 Nvidia P104-100 (slightly better, comparable to a 1070-1080) 16-32 GB ECC Memory (saves money because it’s a Xeon!)
The thing about mining is that the cards get obsolete MUCH faster than with gaming. 2017 cards are basically trash for mining, and soon they won't even work due to mining blocks getting bigger than 6gb. For peak profitability you want an RTX 30 series card, there's no way around it, you need that fast GDDR6 memory for power efficient ETH mining. If anyone is lucky enough to own an RTX 30 card, I recommend letting it mine overnight every night or when you're not gaming during the day, the card is going to pay for itself in 2-4 months. My 3060 ti gets about 4 dollars worth of ETH every night (and the price could spike if you keep the tokens).
When did you scoop this card? As a miner, I know they've shot up in price recently, considerably! These cards are especially great at mining Ravencoin, right now. I like my P106-090s, and I'm sad that they're getting on.
2019: The next gen GPUs are going to be beasts. 2020: The next gen GPUs are nearly here. 2021: Hmmm. This hamburger from the dumpster taste decent enough. 😑😐😑😐
This was further down in the comments but I thought it needed some more attention. Follow up vid idea? "I read on Linus forums that you can actually run on the latest drivers on Linux. - Didn't try myself though." -Edgar Zakarian
at least its 3 gig . much harder for the miners to be profitable with these and more profitable machines in the future . there should be a surplus of these cards available for budget options and should be resupported by Nvidia as its basically running in laptop mode on a desktop , just allow us to specify when we use an exclusively mining card . or a separate gpu in the main slot and have it output via that gpu. it would be simple for Nvidia to pull off.it was already accepted previously
Btw,one of the Russian-speaking UA-camrs have found an Radeon mining GPU, with a Display port,or HDMI only,hiden by a card bracket. After re-arenging the GPU selection jumper resistors,and burning the usual bios,he got a regular video card. I just don't remember, which one was it, originally.
I'm curious about something RGinHD that I honestly would like you to try out. How would editing software work with the P106? Would the GPU have good enough videoplayback in an editing setup and support for Nvidia hardware? And... Can the P106 be used in a dual PC setup where the 2nd PC uses streaming or recording software like OBS? Would the P106 would use NVENC encoder in the 2nd PC? I think it might be a cheap and useful solution for those looking for a card to help in those unique fields. I would personally like to know.
Something that might be useful in windows 10 preview version 20190 and up microsoft added the option to select specific GPU so its possible to have a old video card to use as video output in the system and P106 so select P106 as specific GPU par aplication without having a integraded GPU
Can we just appreciate that Nvidia protected the mining products from gamers but they won't protect the gaming products from miners. On second thought, no lets not appreciate that. I am so mad with Nvidia about the 30 series right now.
Please build a budget 4K gaming pc that targets 4K 30fps in new AAA titles or even 60fps in older titles. With console equivalent settings (or just medium to high)
I have one of these cards in my PC for Folding@Home. Not the fastest due to the power limit of the VBIOS compared to an actual 1060 but does the job for a good price via eBay! I broke a fan blade by sticking my finger in it, so ended up swapping the cooler from a dead Zotac 1060 AMP! card, making it cooler and a bit quieter. The VBIOS on these only lets the fans go as low as 40% so I ended up running them from a PWM header on my motherboard so I had more control over the noise!
Can you take the heatsink off, get down to pcb and see if there is a place to solder on any kind of video outputs? I was trying to research these cards to see if there is any way to add video outputs..
Could u add Valheim to your collection of tested Games please, it's a pretty new title, released in Early february, the graphics is Low-Poly but even my Vega 56 is troubling to get 60fps on the highest settings in FHD and i am wondering how better and weaker hardware is comparing to it. It's in Early Access, so performance should get better in a few months. At least i hope it like it was in The Forest. Despite it's a pretty nice title and very addicting If U like the Settings. It's a vikings-survivalgame, but survival is relatively easy until U meet a new enemy. Then it gets pretty tough. It's easy to understand and already full of content and the generated atmosphere is fantastic
It's unfortunate that this time around there is a silicon shortage at the same time as a mining craze, because releasing mining-specific cards again was a smart move the first time around.
Nvidia should unlock the drivers. As it stands they're just going onto the ewaste pile. And as there's a GPU shortage at the moment this would be a good way to alleviate both issues
I got one of those 2 years ago for 85€. It wasn't as cheap as I'd have liked, but I needed to build a few PCs that could run LoL and Fortnite for some tournaments I organized back then. Also mine was a regular 6GB one, but it's not different from this one in terms of compatibility. Luckily I don't use this GPU for my main PC...
i have to wonder, how well this would work in linux, if its even possible to use a method like used here with the linux drivers... i mean, if it was possible, it should also be quite possible for proton/etc to have an optimized path for these weird setups.... if nvidia would just allow the cards to be used this way, now that miners are dumping them, the value would still be lower then a true gpu video card, since they still require an apu style setup, or at least a card with video output, but...if they allowed these to be used as accelerator cards, even with a "this is not an officially supported configuration, no support will be offered or provided" type click threw would be fine.. i mean... if they allowed them to become a system accelerator, work for video encoding for example, as well as an old skool style 3d accelerator card, hell, i know people who would buy them knowing their limits an flaws, but also more then willing to accept them... if it allows them to play some games and accelerate encoding/video processing/etc.. i still would like to see how fast/slow a GPU(cuda/app/opencl/etc) based Opus encoder could process Flac files into Opus files... at the same quality/getting the same output file consistently cpu or gpu driven.. i see no down side for nVidia at this point, they are selling every card they make, often directly to miners, and doing this, would help give them a bit of positive press and sentiment "this worked pretty well, i think i will buy whatever i can afford from them next time" (genuinely how a few people i know ended up supporting Radeon cards, they got or had older cards that nolonger get/got windows driver support, but that have very good Linux drivers, and with versions of linux like Solus, Linux is nolonger a gaming joke, most games i own on steam are now supported via proton /play on linux/wine/etc... where the cards work better then they did in windows with the "gold" windows drivers.. surreal.. i have found quite a few games that actually run better under linux, mostly because they are translating dx to vulkan and helping lesser the bottleneck dx9-11 games tend to have when it comes to threading/core use/etc... ESO and GW2 genuinely run alot smoother, GW2 runs at a much higher base and average framerate and teh min fps is no less then 10fps higher... even better then using the gw2 dx9-12proxy... amazing stuff really... and, one of the guys was a huge nVidia fanboi, who had never owned anything else... but...the cards fan failed and it cooked itself(got so hot the plastic blower shroud warped ... ) one of our friends gave him an older radeon card he had that was pretty amazing in its day but its windows drivers..not as amazing..in linux.. even i will say.. its impresssive how well that dual 4k card he was given does... both gpu's even work in most titles... i would love to see hardware like this thats just being dumped because its reason for being made and sold is nolonger valid or meaningful.... actually be made useful...
@@sandrocarletto9386 Yeah I think eth needs at least 4GB of VRAM now. So these cards are essentially e-waste, on top of how wasteful mining already is. Nvidia nerfing the drivers for them is a dick move really, since nobody will use them for mining anymore letting gamers use them would save at least a few from ending up as literal trash, but Nvidia wants people to pay through the nose for their newer gaming cards instead.
Rx 470 4gb mining cards with dvi ports were good buys but nowadays I am still having issues with using it with a dvi to hdmi cable. Have to see if it still even works after going straight dvi.
to be fair its a great card for its purpose, got 10 of these for 500€.. set some stuff, aaaand, 230 mh/s for 500€... paid in 20 days, i'll say its well worth
A buddy of mine gave me a dead GTX 1080 a few months ago, and I tried to get it working without success. I listed it up on eBay for an auction and somebody PAID $280 + SHIPPING for it. Absolutely mad, although I still have no GPU :(
They need to pump out some 3060 12gb mining cards. I would def buy 12 of them if they were in stock. Could make some decent money that way. But miners always want graphics cards with display outs as they have resale value. If crypto crashes again miners can make a good amount of their investment back selling the cards. At current prices they could even make a decent profit selling these cards off.
Most reviewers did the same mistake back then calling the 3GB variant of 1060 the better choice while many viewers based on their previous experience told you that it would age fast. And we were right.
You should try adding the card's hardware ID to the .ini list inside the nvidia driver installer (you can extract them) I had a gtx 650ti boost i did this with and was able to install newer drivers and they worked fine
I vote for "Things I bought without reading the description properly" to be a new series! Next episode, a picture of a RTX 3080!
You can also get very nice boxes of these expensive and not available graphics cards to put in your GT 710...
I hate them scams, see way too many ☹️
@@trollfacegamung5512 It is for the bots. To scam scalpers.Not for people with brains
Yo this made me laugh hella hard because when I was like 8 years old I tried to buy one of those human sized hamster balls off amazon. It was surprisingly cheap compared to others... only $60 when all the other ones were like $150+. It came a month later and it was just a fucking 5’ x 5’ poster of a giant hamster ball. Kms
@David Cassidy lewis Sorry, i don't understand...
nvidia: makes a mining gpu so miners dont buy all the gaming gpus
miners: buys gaming gpus for mining
gamers: buys mining gpus for gaming
nvidia: stop
Stonks...
I hate how true this is ;_;
make sense why miners dont want to buy mining cards due to their very low resellability
Just ignores linear time.
This GPU deserved better than a nerfed driver IMO. Actually it's a wasted potential.
Indeed. LTT also did a video about this and made a point about how Nvidia intentionally locking this card's potential is anti-consumer and also very wasteful.
@@SteenG3yL they can do one thing, or they can be like sony and have nothing available for consumers
@@SteenG3yL Everything NVidia does is anti-consumer
@@mytoe420 So instead of selling gaming cards to miners.... They turn them into mining cards to sell to miners.
As if thats better.
Miners buy gaming cards because in a year or 2 they can be sold cheap on the used market, They dont buy mining cards because they have no resale value.
What if they were ALL gaming cards, That way if a miner buys it nothing changes but now instead of these mining cards sat on store shelves doing nothing theres now many many more gaming cards available.
Instead of making 20,000 GPUs with only 10,000 being gaming cards and the other 50% being miners.
How about making 20,000 gaming cards and selling them......as gaming cards.
1 HDMI port, thats all the difference.
@Unknown Nomad so freaking true....looking at you pascal 😏
3:14 Nice parking skills
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@@RandomGaminginHD when will you make a gta 5 parking tutorial
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Miners don't even want mining cards. Gamer: if we could game on these we would not have to worry about miners.
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Well said, sir Napoleon Bonaparte. We shall propose such prosperous treaty soon enough and establish peace all around the kingdom.
It's hilarious how it worked out that way 😂
Gaming cards just have better resell value the resell value of mining cards is like non existent.
This is the most UNO reverse card thing I've ever heard.
3:36 I never understood why there was an idea that 3GB cards would last a long time. By the time the 1060 3GB was released there were already several AAA games that would happily consume more than 3GB of VRAM even on lower settings.
I think its because from I think the gtx 900 era it was rare for a 1080p game to go over 3 gigs, but then textures got higher very very fast. I still think you can get away with 4 gigs though on most games like CW use 4.5
It still takes that GPU a while to chew through it so there is really not that much difference in most games, or there would be more then the same 10% Difference between the 3gb and the 6Gb there has always been.
What are you on my 1060 3gb is able to run games still
@@JuanTorres-gn2ss yeah idk what he's on either, some games you might be limited for some settings but stuff's still plenty playable. 3 gb's workable 4 gb's pretty okay 8 gb's golden for at least a while at 1080p
@@JuanTorres-gn2ss but it loses out to even a 4gb rx470, let alone an 8gb model.
Miners: WE WANT GAMING CARDS. RELEASE THE BOTS.
gamers: I guess we'll take mining cards, if they're available anyway.
Except that Nvidia doesn't allow display out on mining cards...intentionally to discourage gamers from buying them. Where is our product protection Nvidia?
The Smart way to get into gaming with this awful times for those who wanted a PC , is by getting an xbone used fat and gaming pass...
@@paladingeorge6098 Out of curiosity, does this work for home streaming server? I'm not terribly sure if these would work that way.
@@velardechelo So you can play Dota 2 for example on an Xbox one thanks to the gaming pass ? sorry but there is no alternative for a gaming PC if you want a gaming PC. A Console is fine but if you want a gaming PC you are not looking for controller gameplay. I am not hating consoles here just imagine you want to buy a PS5 cause you really wanna play on PS5 for whatever reason and someone just says "just buy a PC till you can buy a ps5". A PC cannot do some stuff people might want from a PS5 while the PS5 cant do stuff a PC could offer you.
@@paladingeorge6098 "doesnt allow display output on mining cards..." completly false. The mining cards dont have ports to cut costs down not to "stop gamers from buying them" or anything close to that lol
Guess we have try every avenue at the moment 🙏🏼
Dude you probably can't even get one of these.
Maybe on eBay for 300 dollars used.
@@phoenixzappa7366 used by miners no less
@@phoenixzappa7366 evga midweek madness sometimes has this for around 100
@@phoenixzappa7366 In the u.s., about $100+ on ebay.
1060, 3GB, is about $150-$200.
Lmao this is a completely unrealistic solution. The used market is a r*pe fest tho...
I've got news from the future. Two things:
1) You can now install the latest official drivers (v551.52 as of this writing in 2024) for all the mining cards (P10X and CMP HX series) with the help of this project (will post link in different comment in case YT gets mad with links): NVIDIA-patcher, by Alexander Gavrilov. May the GPU gods bless this man.
2) As for the pci-e lanes, at least on the CMP series, you can soder the missing 0402 220nF capacitors on the back of the card to enable the full 16x. No idea if this works on the P10X series, the lanes could be defused in the chip.
For the right/low price, mining cards are still viable for gaming and specially CUDA processing. Good hunt.
Even these things are insanely inflated in price right now - bought one on eBay in June to play around with for $35 - just sold it 2 days ago for $110.
That’s insane, I’m still seeing a few for around £50 here but I’m sure prices will shoot up soon
@@RandomGaminginHD Buy 10 of these for 45 and sell them for 100. Then you have the money to buy a new... GT 1010! :-D
@@RandomGaminginHD if you want to hear insane then remember that the gtx 1050 ti has re released with some sellers selling them at £700 or more
@@RandomGaminginHD Can you share the link with me, please?
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P106's have risen in price, similar to that of consumer graphics cards. This crazy stock and price rising thing is nuts.
Just sold my 1660s for the price i brought it new. Lost literally pennies. Crazy times we live in now.
@@clementm6620 bro, then you did sth really wrong. Did you sell it in an auction (thats the only way i see you possivly having bad luck and losing money)? i got a 1650 super and could sell it at for at least 1.5 times the price.
Ah yes, why buy a scarcely available gaming card when you can buy used mining cards...
@Hansy imaging calling someone else dumb then not spelling your comment correctly.. Irony.
I really like this new series. I think "things that I didn't read the description for" has got legs
You could try an P104-100. Its a 4GB 1070 with no outputs. But there are some older revisions of it, which have a hidden DVI oder HDMI port behind the shield on the back and can also be unlocked to have 8GB, as they can only use 4GB with the stock VBIOS. The newer ones have 8GB, but none of those are buyable for a good price right now. All over 250€.
Last time I was this early Half-Life 1 was considered a technological leap.
I’m wondering how this would perform on Linux with Optimus
I read on Linus forums that you can actually run on the latest drivers on Linux. - Didn't try myself though.
nice topic, i'm curious if you can "patch"/hack the drivers to support this card or to flash the card bios with the 1050 name. i have had modified intel's drivers in the past with mixed results... (driver issued for windows 10 32bit to work on windows 7 32bit)
I was wondering that too but i think the gpu architecture is slightly different as well. Might brick it haha
some ppl try to flash bios,make an hdmi output for it,,,nothing work
@@roymarr6181 i was migrating windows 7 32 (hd clone) from my previous laptop and my new laptop have a intel hd 620, intel provides drivers only for windows 10 32/64 and windows 7 64... so i hacked the drivers to work on windows 7 with some minor issues - some screen blanking once or twice per week - until i have time to install windows 10 64 and transfer all my applications... interesting fact: games was running with higher fps on the hacked driver than the windows 10 counterpart -with some visual glitches tho-
@@valeries0817 i think the driver hacking is the safer way.. there is no such driver on the internets?
@@docwhogr nope =( registry tweaks is currently the best way to use this card
I literally just saw this exact card on eBay and was debating on whether to buy it or not 😂😂
....for how much?
uh no lol
@@landonolson6753 right lmao ppl actually think this is viable
@@Fractal_blip $150 Australia Dollars
@@huzayfahchoudhury2554 hmmm idk man there's so much that 150 could be better put toward imo.
You can get more modern drivers for it, you can either download unofficial drivers, mine are 451.xx havent updated in a while. Probably not a silver bullet solution but stability and performance are generally increased, I havent tested in any newer titles but it is good. I picked mine up for 35$ about a year ago just to use RTX voice and check out some CUDA stuff. You could always rolls up your sleeves and edit the Nvidia installer yourself if you're sketched out by unknown european driver repositories, but, this does require some level of technical ability. Also I'd expect the price to plummet once more as the DAG approaches 3gb on the Ethereum forks such as Eth Classic.
Worth a revisit?
where do you get the unofficial drivers?
Link please for those unofficial driver
@@hilmanfachrudin5027 it's been over a year sorry, dont have it any longer. Although the last 1060 drivers installed fine 541.xx or something like that. And i dont think it had anything to do with registry mods or anything like that. I dont still have the setup sorry. Also there are guides to change the install .exe i think even Linus Tech Tips did a thing on it.
I am the one who found out how to get them working with the regedits : 3 (Mirro Reaper)
And yes the card you got along with the other P10* - 90 variants are locked at PCI-E X4 1.1 while the P106 - 100 are locked at X16 1.1
I was lucky enough to get a Red Devil RX480/8GB at height of Pandemic for $100 and it games awesomely at 1080p
What a beast , never goes over 63C , dual BIOS , triple fans , giant heatsink. 12 inches long.
I upgraded my Pentium G3220 to a i5 4690 for $50 at same time and am happy , really happy.
FPS on games I play 150-300.
Mining cards can be repurposed for another use - Stable Diffusion for AI-based image generation.
Bought Nvidia P104 mining GPU for $25 and it is quite dirt cheap. Although this mining GPU were totally different than standard GPU from most of features from standard GPU were stripped out to only having PCIe 1.1 x4, at least this mining GPU could do the job.
I was wondering about this. I have a p106 I’m able to use as a renderer in blender. I may try using it with stable diffusion.
You can try to rename nvapi64.dll to nvapi64_.dll, this should bypass driver checks and allow games to launch.
Now the question is:
After modding the drivers on it, can it be SLI'd with another 3gb 1060?
Just to generally comment on mined GPUs, they aren't that scary, just get a mined GPU that was handled nicely and you're good to go.
I got myself a mined rx 570 and it works like a charm, the temps were a bit of a problem but that's fixed now.
I make love to my gpu, there's a lot of sticky stains on it but I tell myself it's good for the cooling as the sticky stuff obsorbs the heat so every day I put lots of man juice on it
@@thealien_ali3382 wtfff
For low end system this is a good card, though if only the drivers were updated/continued
Honestly I'd rather play all these games on the 3400g, and try my hand at overclocking the RAM and frequency
First sensible comment I've seen 😆
Or use the card for mining and the igpu for gaming
With Samsung B-Die RAM @ 3400 CL14, expect GTX 750 ti performance. When I was using it at the time, I was quite happy. The most stressful game I had at the time was Division 2, and I was running at custom medium settings @ 900p and maintaining a 45-50 fps average.
@@MaxDad7 more like gtx 1050
@@cheburekman696 That might be a stretch but in some case yeah. When I ran Firestrike benchmarks I was running nearly identical scores to an OCed 4770k and a GTX 750 ti.
I think this should be revisited, am playing the Last of us part 1 on a $15 p106-100 with latest Nvidia drivers
If you can manage to installer the latest NVidia drivers on it, all you have to do is enable GPU scheduling and all your games will run using your gpu and it will even allow you to access the NVidia control panel
No one makes videos like you, Amazing job mate always makes the unusual yet much needed niche videos amazing job once again
with Linux(ubuntu,popOS) u can use newest driver without registry tweak,just game!(with integrated graphic,ofc)
You can in fact use newer drivers in Linux. The open source driver works without problem on my pop is setup. On Linux you can also sidestep the atleast 4th Gen Intel issue as I can run my 106-100 on 2600k without issues. But on windows making 2nd and 3rd gen work is a huge pain in the backside.
what are u gonna play in linux anyway
@@urnoob5528 nearly my entire steam library. why do you ask? its not like olden times where it was hard to play games on linux.
oh I'm so glad you did this
i forgot i bought one of these for $50 last year before i moved and i just found it in one of my boxes
"Cheap", in my country it costs twice as 1060
@waffeltek a 1060 is better
@waffeltek Much, much better.
You're really David attenborough of video card
I used to have one for this. It was a world of headaches that happened to run games sometimes.
+1 for being honest about buying it without reading the description properly
A modern mining card would be a 3060 or 3050 with GDDR6X and a backplate with cooling fins.
There was this short-lived and unsuccessful at the time tech-gimmick called Lucid Virtu, it was present on Z68 chipset and maybe on some H67/H61 boards, hence Intel Sandy/Ivy Bridge (2000/3000 series CPUs). It natively supported, among other things, passing discrete gpu signal through the igpu port, through bios/uefi, so low-level stuff, independent of the operating system. It was generally pointless but the performance decline was almost none.
It would be a REALLY cool video if you could find a mobo like that and test it out with such a mining card.
Hey, would using a Xeon that uses the ivy bridge platform support Lucid Virtu? Thinking about putting together a build that would use Lucid Virtu. If it works, I will make a video of how well it does.
(If xeons work)
Intel Xeon E3-1275 V2
Nvidia P104-100 (slightly better, comparable to a 1070-1080)
16-32 GB ECC Memory (saves money because it’s a Xeon!)
The thing about mining is that the cards get obsolete MUCH faster than with gaming. 2017 cards are basically trash for mining, and soon they won't even work due to mining blocks getting bigger than 6gb. For peak profitability you want an RTX 30 series card, there's no way around it, you need that fast GDDR6 memory for power efficient ETH mining.
If anyone is lucky enough to own an RTX 30 card, I recommend letting it mine overnight every night or when you're not gaming during the day, the card is going to pay for itself in 2-4 months. My 3060 ti gets about 4 dollars worth of ETH every night (and the price could spike if you keep the tokens).
When did you scoop this card? As a miner, I know they've shot up in price recently, considerably!
These cards are especially great at mining Ravencoin, right now.
I like my P106-090s, and I'm sad that they're getting on.
How to set up Steve's GTA V benchmark:
1. 1x Franklin
2. A grenade
3. The nearest civilian or car
4. Go ham with the trigger
Make a video testing the rare intel core solo CPUs. I'm sure that this would be interesting.
This is a very good time for Nvidia to start supporting driver development for this GPU to supplement the high demand/low supply situation.
2019: The next gen GPUs are going to be beasts.
2020: The next gen GPUs are nearly here.
2021: Hmmm. This hamburger from the dumpster taste decent enough. 😑😐😑😐
one year ago i bougt a 1060 6gb for 110€ on ebay. Today i cannot find one under 250€
crazy prices
This was further down in the comments but I thought it needed some more attention. Follow up vid idea?
"I read on Linus forums that you can actually run on the latest drivers on Linux. - Didn't try myself though."
-Edgar Zakarian
it can't use shadowplay? so what's recording software that you're using on this clip 6:38 ?
i think that flashing the bios of the card unlocks a lot of its potential
at least its 3 gig . much harder for the miners to be profitable with these and more profitable machines in the future . there should be a surplus of these cards available for budget options and should be resupported by Nvidia as its basically running in laptop mode on a desktop , just allow us to specify when we use an exclusively mining card . or a separate gpu in the main slot and have it output via that gpu. it would be simple for Nvidia to pull off.it was already accepted previously
Btw,one of the Russian-speaking UA-camrs have found an Radeon mining GPU, with a Display port,or HDMI only,hiden by a card bracket.
After re-arenging the GPU selection jumper resistors,and burning the usual bios,he got a regular video card.
I just don't remember, which one was it, originally.
I'm curious about something RGinHD that I honestly would like you to try out.
How would editing software work with the P106? Would the GPU have good enough videoplayback in an editing setup and support for Nvidia hardware?
And...
Can the P106 be used in a dual PC setup where the 2nd PC uses streaming or recording software like OBS? Would the P106 would use NVENC encoder in the 2nd PC?
I think it might be a cheap and useful solution for those looking for a card to help in those unique fields. I would personally like to know.
Everyone: Mines on gaming GPUs.
This dude here: Watch me!
Can you do a review on the Pentium Gold G6600? I'm not sure if it's worth it and I dont know if there are better alternatives
You remind me of myself when i was a kid. always testing out hardware and shit. keep up the really cool work man
Can't you flash a 1060 3gb bios onto that card and use it with the updated drivers?
Something that might be useful in windows 10 preview version 20190 and up microsoft added the option to select specific GPU so its possible to have a old video card to use as video output in the system and P106
so select P106 as specific GPU par aplication without having a integraded GPU
Can we just appreciate that Nvidia protected the mining products from gamers but they won't protect the gaming products from miners.
On second thought, no lets not appreciate that. I am so mad with Nvidia about the 30 series right now.
Please build a budget 4K gaming pc that targets 4K 30fps in new AAA titles or even 60fps in older titles. With console equivalent settings (or just medium to high)
Video idea: is the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950x worth it in 2021?
I have one of these cards in my PC for Folding@Home. Not the fastest due to the power limit of the VBIOS compared to an actual 1060 but does the job for a good price via eBay!
I broke a fan blade by sticking my finger in it, so ended up swapping the cooler from a dead Zotac 1060 AMP! card, making it cooler and a bit quieter. The VBIOS on these only lets the fans go as low as 40% so I ended up running them from a PWM header on my motherboard so I had more control over the noise!
Can you take the heatsink off, get down to pcb and see if there is a place to solder on any kind of video outputs? I was trying to research these cards to see if there is any way to add video outputs..
What about if you did this with a eGPU enclosure, you could get around the issue that it doesn't have display outputs.
I hadn’t thought of that to be honest but yeah it should work with the same driver/ tweak
have you tried using it with The Beast external gpu adapter with a laptop? just curious, might work
why you dont try Ocam for capturing gameplay when shadowplay is not working?
Could u add Valheim to your collection of tested Games please, it's a pretty new title, released in Early february, the graphics is Low-Poly but even my Vega 56 is troubling to get 60fps on the highest settings in FHD and i am wondering how better and weaker hardware is comparing to it. It's in Early Access, so performance should get better in a few months. At least i hope it like it was in The Forest.
Despite it's a pretty nice title and very addicting If U like the Settings. It's a vikings-survivalgame, but survival is relatively easy until U meet a new enemy. Then it gets pretty tough. It's easy to understand and already full of content and the generated atmosphere is fantastic
Really informative video that I really enjoyed. Thanks!
It's unfortunate that this time around there is a silicon shortage at the same time as a mining craze, because releasing mining-specific cards again was a smart move the first time around.
How’s NVEnc and NVDec on these cards?
Can they be used as accelerator card for old computers to enable video capture and editing?
Haven't been watching this channel for a while, glad to be back, but I'm missing something. Whatever happened to Dave?
Nvidia should unlock the drivers. As it stands they're just going onto the ewaste pile. And as there's a GPU shortage at the moment this would be a good way to alleviate both issues
I got one of those 2 years ago for 85€. It wasn't as cheap as I'd have liked, but I needed to build a few PCs that could run LoL and Fortnite for some tournaments I organized back then. Also mine was a regular 6GB one, but it's not different from this one in terms of compatibility. Luckily I don't use this GPU for my main PC...
I got a rx 480 8GB miner card for 100$ a couple years ago and still kicks modern games asses
Just finished watching Linus's video only to find a notification about this one.
Yeah this guy just copied Linus
How couldn't you use the capture card? Aren't those simply intercepting the video signal from the cable?
i have to wonder, how well this would work in linux, if its even possible to use a method like used here with the linux drivers... i mean, if it was possible, it should also be quite possible for proton/etc to have an optimized path for these weird setups....
if nvidia would just allow the cards to be used this way, now that miners are dumping them, the value would still be lower then a true gpu video card, since they still require an apu style setup, or at least a card with video output, but...if they allowed these to be used as accelerator cards, even with a "this is not an officially supported configuration, no support will be offered or provided" type click threw would be fine.. i mean... if they allowed them to become a system accelerator, work for video encoding for example, as well as an old skool style 3d accelerator card, hell, i know people who would buy them knowing their limits an flaws, but also more then willing to accept them... if it allows them to play some games and accelerate encoding/video processing/etc..
i still would like to see how fast/slow a GPU(cuda/app/opencl/etc) based Opus encoder could process Flac files into Opus files... at the same quality/getting the same output file consistently cpu or gpu driven..
i see no down side for nVidia at this point, they are selling every card they make, often directly to miners, and doing this, would help give them a bit of positive press and sentiment "this worked pretty well, i think i will buy whatever i can afford from them next time" (genuinely how a few people i know ended up supporting Radeon cards, they got or had older cards that nolonger get/got windows driver support, but that have very good Linux drivers, and with versions of linux like Solus, Linux is nolonger a gaming joke, most games i own on steam are now supported via proton /play on linux/wine/etc... where the cards work better then they did in windows with the "gold" windows drivers.. surreal.. i have found quite a few games that actually run better under linux, mostly because they are translating dx to vulkan and helping lesser the bottleneck dx9-11 games tend to have when it comes to threading/core use/etc... ESO and GW2 genuinely run alot smoother, GW2 runs at a much higher base and average framerate and teh min fps is no less then 10fps higher... even better then using the gw2 dx9-12proxy... amazing stuff really... and, one of the guys was a huge nVidia fanboi, who had never owned anything else... but...the cards fan failed and it cooked itself(got so hot the plastic blower shroud warped ... ) one of our friends gave him an older radeon card he had that was pretty amazing in its day but its windows drivers..not as amazing..in linux.. even i will say.. its impresssive how well that dual 4k card he was given does... both gpu's even work in most titles...
i would love to see hardware like this thats just being dumped because its reason for being made and sold is nolonger valid or meaningful.... actually be made useful...
This GPUs are totally useles nowdays... they can't even be used to take profit on mining...
they cant mine eth anymore right?
@@sandrocarletto9386 Yeah I think eth needs at least 4GB of VRAM now. So these cards are essentially e-waste, on top of how wasteful mining already is. Nvidia nerfing the drivers for them is a dick move really, since nobody will use them for mining anymore letting gamers use them would save at least a few from ending up as literal trash, but Nvidia wants people to pay through the nose for their newer gaming cards instead.
@@sandrocarletto9386 ETH DAG size is over 4GB already... Some 4 GB still can mine in zombie mode but with less hash power...
@@Middcore mining cards are a bad idea anyway since if eth crashes miners can just sell the cards to gamers and afaik thats exactly what happens
You can't do ETH and RVN with these, rest is fine, but performance is going downhill. Really disappointing;
Could be handy if you’re playing with Different SLI?
Rx 470 4gb mining cards with dvi ports were good buys but nowadays I am still having issues with using it with a dvi to hdmi cable. Have to see if it still even works after going straight dvi.
AMD mining cards have a DVI connector. Are they any better?
Is it possible to use it for compute on Linux? I want to use a few of these for Blender Cycles and maybe EEVEE.
2:45 what about radeon relive? :v
the video output is on the Vega...
Any chance you could try it on Linux? It wouldn't have the driver issues I don't think.
Can you use it as a dedicated GPU for a laptop? Using the integrated display.
Hello I have a biostar a320 mh MB and a ryzen 3 3200 g and when I connect the gpu to the MB the screen goes black, please help, I am desperate
There also is a p104 which is around a 1080/1070 and a p102 which is close to a 1080ti
to be fair its a great card for its purpose, got 10 of these for 500€.. set some stuff, aaaand, 230 mh/s for 500€... paid in 20 days, i'll say its well worth
did do very good research on it then
Can you do a video about changing an power conector to an gpu?
There's new workaround for newest driver for p106
You should take a look
A buddy of mine gave me a dead GTX 1080 a few months ago, and I tried to get it working without success. I listed it up on eBay for an auction and somebody PAID $280 + SHIPPING for it. Absolutely mad, although I still have no GPU :(
They need to pump out some 3060 12gb mining cards. I would def buy 12 of them if they were in stock. Could make some decent money that way. But miners always want graphics cards with display outs as they have resale value. If crypto crashes again miners can make a good amount of their investment back selling the cards. At current prices they could even make a decent profit selling these cards off.
Maybe you could try a radeon mining card, I've seen some mining versions with dvi output
Most reviewers did the same mistake back then calling the 3GB variant of 1060 the better choice while many viewers based on their previous experience told you that it would age fast. And we were right.
Someone should make Compilation Clip about all these "Hello (everyone) and Welcome to Another Video,now" :D:D. Legendary
You should definitely try this with a laptop, if it works with that it could be quite good.
never do it....1x bandwidth makes it feel just like intel hd graphics..tried it before
What about Linux? There's a slight chance Nvidia didn't nerf those drivers. Worth a try.
maybe force flash a 1060 3gb vbios??? or a 1050?? am quite interested if the vbios flash is successful
You should try adding the card's hardware ID to the .ini list inside the nvidia driver installer (you can extract them) I had a gtx 650ti boost i did this with and was able to install newer drivers and they worked fine
do u not understand the problem......