Off Camera Secrets | Mario Party 8 - Boundary Break
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Lets take the camera absolutely anywhere we want to learn more about Mario Party Wii!
Every episode I have - • Boundary Break
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Developers are legit gonna start furnishing hidden rooms and then placing bets on who's secrets get on Boundary Break..
Is it weird that I really want that to happen?
I was thinking something similar around 5:57, "I wonder how long it's going to take for game devs to start putting in secret, hidden content just to mess with boundary breakers like Shesez..."
I'm starting to imagine games with secret messages to find like in the days of the Atari and ZX Spectrum, but with modern flair.
I can just imagine a sign in a out of bounds area that acknowledges boundary break
Developers have put secret rooms in before specifically because they know the fans are crazy enough to do these sort of shenanigans, so it wouldn't surprise me.
To a lesser extent was the idea behind the ridiculously placed coin piles in Mario Odyssey. Kinda the devs' way of going " You weren't really supposed to be able to do that, but here's something for your effort."
"Speaking of long cylinders" sounds like one of the world's worst pickup lines
Sounds like Sonic Lost World to me
I dunno man, if I was a chick and somebody pulled that shit on me I'd be standing there like medusa got to me.
Lmao! Love ya dude.
best*
Hey Nitro Rad! Will you ever do a review of BattleTanx?
Remember, if you're ever feeling like your alone in this world, remember there is a Goomba in Mario Party 8 just looking from the void at all the people having fun in the minigame room. You are probably doing better than that right now, so keep your hopes up!
Ethan Montgomery I am that goomba
Aww, now I want to reach into the void and give that poor lonely Goomba a big ol' hug, take him home and make sure he's never lonely again!
Dargonhuman me too man
@@Dargonhuman *sobs* thats so wholesome
Scary
Something you missed: the Gun the Runner minigame starts with some pans over a surprisingly detailed cityscape while showing the 3 players getting into position before focusing on the stage for the minigame itself. I’d be interested in a zoom into that to see how much detail actually was put into it.
That table texture is just hilarious. Like why would they take a picture of a table then replace the original white texture with the white from the photo?
Great video as usual, this one had a lot of cool stuff!
Could be some strange inside joke, as a Game Developer I can tell you that there are some eastereggs that are just for the Devs because noone else can get them because they are some jokes that emmerged during development :D
Ibakon Ferba
Probably, though my first thought was the texture that was supposed to be on the table got corrupted or overwritten by the texture in the frame and the devs figured that was close enough and didn't have the time and/or budget to fix it.
My only guess is that they used it to mimic a reflection without having to waste resources on using some kind of material or etc that reflects.
If you notice, the texture already had a reflection on it, so if they just put it on the tabletop, and made the reflection line up with the red block, it'd look just like a reflection without using more resources than needed, which it does at 10:27
I dunno why it was on the wall though. Probably was just a way for them to see how it looked in-game, and just forgot to clean it up?
It looks like instead of being stuck between two pipes, TheLonelyGoomba is stuck inside an OoB black void.
Maybe he can meet up with the mystery goomba sometime.
It's the Mystery Goomba who likes hanging out in the void. Lonely Goomba is still stuck between two pipes playing that GameBoy.
@Blaze the Dragon Now it's a DS
But the real question is, can we kill this mystery Goomba?
@Yamcha Of The Wolf Fang Fist *something something half a press*
God, you just had to start with that music.. The nostalgia, it burns..
Anti Riku I do not think it is from Mario Party 8, though.
It's from the original Mario Party in the Mario's Rainbow castle board map.
6:16 "And down below you can see the characters balls being stored"
- Shesez 2018
robcraft gaming. (Insert Lenny face here)
(°¿_°). *what*is*my*life
Characters are stored on the balls
haha you sound so excited. This video is just such a happy video
Shesez: what’s up party animals!
Me, eating pancakes alone: interesting....
That's alot of undocumented discoveries just for one video
do sleeping dogs
Well, I imagine there aren't too many professional Mario Party 8 researchers in the world.
Irony truly, truly is a weapon, your username does not lie.
Irony is a weapon Are they really undocmunted?
6:17
*"you can see the characters' balls being stored"*
Woah, you're gonna be doing Bloodborne? Amazing. Huge revelation. Colossal. Great to hear. Wow.
I know Lance! What an amazing thing. I wonder how that came about?!? :)
Wow, I did not expect to see you here! Great work by the way, you and SanadsK are amazing
Shesez or some say She Says, grant us cameras! Grant us Cameras!
Dude you're a legend to me and my brother. We regularly use "Boundary Break" as a verb and catch every episode! It doesn't matter the game. MGS1 has been our favorite and would definitely love to see more MGS titles :D
I would love to get your autograph. And a low-poly Peach doodle.
Unpopular opinion: Mario party 8 is my favorite mario party
JustThatOneGuy29 same you like the soda game?
ok
Same. Along with the DS
Its not Unpopular opinion
@@eyuptanermavili8658 it kinda is. Many people say it’s the worst one in the series
Great game to start the mario party series with
This one has all sorts of complex environments that the camera just flies trough without stopping
Mario Party 8 is my favorite installment in the series. It makes me sad to see all the hate it receives because of the motion controls. Oh well.
JediGuyKaleb I honestly think motion controls made it better and more unique
It's one of my least favorites and I can guarantee you that motion controls isn't one of my main issues if that reassure you!
Best roster of characters tho and I really love MC Ballyhoo, this guy should totally be back!!
It will forever remain the best game to me.
JediGuyKaleb my favorite was MP2
JediGuyKaleb
It was great. I still play it today.
Boundary Break is one of two channels I have notification turned on for, and I plan to keep it this way
corey purdy You DO know that make UA-cam unsubscribe from other channels automatically, right?
Proto L well, UA-cam is a bit of a huge mess so I don’t doubt that. I don’t really mind though, most of the channels I watch are in my recommended already. Rarely do I check my subscribed feed.
havent had any issues with that so far and its been months
Yes! The first Mario Party I owned is the first Mario Party boundary break episode!
I kind of feel bad for you. It's far from the best one, but it's fun enough.
Pogohg Um ok?
TommyTom why are you reacting like that?
Pogohg Thats my question.
TommyTom I really don't understand what you're talking about. Was what I said really that weird or something?
It took you such a long time, because you cannot rush perfection!
Game devs sometimes instance specific characters that share different code from other characters of that type, so the goomba might be a placeholder that is pre-loaded. But also many game engines can't instance an object unless it's placed somewhere in one of the game scenes, so it could also be that.
6:16
“And down below the ground you can see the characters balls being stored”
"It's the luck of the die! And I'm the die... guy... This is a terrible analogy."
3:20
Depression in a nutshell.
True
The holes appear to be bite marks from the chain chomps.
If we finally got Mario Party on episode 85
Maybe we’ll get Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix on episode 100!
Oh, come now Shesez... You know you were just trying to look up Peaches dress at 5:58, you can't fool us. :)
The debug for the Jak Trilogy was just found in all versions!! It’d be such a good episode!!!
This video brought back so many fond memories of me playing Mario Party 8 when I was younger :)
There needds to be a part 2 to this. You completely forgot to go over the boards. I bet there is some undiscovered content laying out of the eyes on those!
This is my favorite one, mainly because of the motion controls, they're awesome
Ever since I was 6 and my Aunt got the Wii i had always wanted to go inside that tent that you couldn't go into. This video brought back nostalgia and put my childhood curiosity to rest. Can't thabk you enough :)
I love Mario Party, can't wait to see more of them get boundary broken! And fingers crossed for a great new Switch game that can bring back some of the former glory.
Bro you on trending.
Killermy3 man we are full of surprises
YES! Ever since I watched my first boundary break episode, i’ve always wanted you to boundary break my favorite mario party game! Cheers Shesez ❤️
Great video. Won't be at PAX this year, but I hope you have a great time!
Haven't played a lot of these games but the things we weren't allowed to see are super interesting. Great video quality and pacing thank you Shesez (and all the camera creators too). :D
Unlike others, I really like mario party 8, so this makes me happy.
When I was young, my best time for rotation station was...
*16 : 22*
This is my favorite bird watching channel on UA-cam!
Same!
I always thought that the reason why they had the tutorials in the void is because the minigame information screen was being used to preload the character models for a faster boot. So the information screen just has models in the void with a window to the tutorial screen, it loads in models, then those models are used in the game.
Loved this! Full of interesting finds!
1:30 hey, it seems to be precisely in the place where one would put so-called "hardpoints", or "mountpoints", a transform ( == empty object only with position and rotation data) which is used as a parent object under which you put anything the character is supposed to be holding in their hand.
usually it's really made to be empty, to have no geometry, but that's just so it's invisible. this piece of geometry seems small enough to be invisible, and its shape does really look like something to signal the orientation of the axes. so I bet that piece of geometry was there only to help devs correctly place the mountpoint, after which they forgot to turn the geometry off, or they just didn't care because it's so hard to see anyway.
Why do certain objects jitter around when you move the camera?
Like at 10:15, the flowers sometimes move independently from the vase if seen frame-by-frame.
The flowers in that vase are a 2D texture that face the camera no matter where it is, while the vase itself is a 3D object.
The way the camera moves (by "jumping" small distances), the flowers get left behind and have to re-adjust to the position of the vase. As the camera isn't supposed to move that way, it's not an issue while playing the game.
I love how this game uses real life images for some of it's textures, like the grass, the flowers and even the hawk.
Some may find it weird, but I think it's pretty charming. :)
You on trending
"And down bellow the ground you can see the character's balls..." Zooms in the direction of the character's pants
Are you going to make a boundary break video about Splatoon 2?
Mr. Sheep ok
Mr. Sheep Technically the switch is hacked, but it’s mostly used by developers.
I’ve seen hacks for splatoon 2 before (which are most likely private), so I’d say it may be possible to create a camera for it in at least a few months or a year
Actually, people have.
Mr. Sheep hacks on the switch have been out for more than a week, as far as I know. Sure, they might be hard to get/make and may be private hacks, but they’re still out there. The whole channel of Samuel Bessega consists of splatoon hacks and splatoon 2 hacks (I’m telling you the channel name because I can’t link videos, since I’m on mobile).
I love the level of detail in some of the unseen parts. It makes me wonder if someone got bored at work. Or got paid by the hour.
Please boundary break Persona 3 or Persona 4! 😮
I wanna see this!
I've always thought this game would be a cool boundary break episode! Thanks for making it!
More sequence break please.
Thanks for being a fan sir. any specific games youd want to see?
@@BoundaryBreak could you do a Boundary Break episode for Mario Party for Nintendo 64, Mario Party 2 for Nintendo 64, and Mario Party 3 for Nintendo 64?
Thanks
So, I have a guess at an explanation for the weird "videos and bowling scores in the void" @5:00
It looks like they do two render passes here, one for any video or live-updating textures, and another for the scene proper. Rather than use a separate render buffer, it looks like they just draw the video/ui straight into the viewbuffer (the one that actually gets drawn to screen) as a sort of "scratch pad" and then use the results of that when rendering the scene, taking that scratch stuff and scaling/stretching/squashing it down to fit the in-scene display.
Since the scene gets rendered completely over top of that "scratch pad", the video/ui pixels get completely clobbered by the scene's pixels, and the player never sees them!
Except for the the void. The Void isn't actually "black", it's "nothing" - as in, the graphics hardware draws *nothing* over that part of the viewbuffer, and therefore you're left with the last pixels that were changed, those being the video/ui scratch space. The viewbuffer looks to be blacked out between frames, but not between video rendering and scene rendering.
You can even see that some things are rendered at quarter-resolution (the videos), which is why they're always in the upper left hand quadrant of the camera's view, no matter where you point the camera in the void.
I grew up playing this game
"I'm a lonely Goomba, stuck in the black void, well guess I'll just keep watching for the rest of my life."
The best party!
Kirby Odyssey
the last* best mario party...
:(
(The deadliest party)
This was probably the first episode of Boundary Break, and what a fun way to start! I'd love to see you go through the other Mario Parties, if they have anywhere near this kind of detail.
How did you get that sound effect? 1:31
Nick Katasonov also want to know
Nick Katasonov That is the sound of pressing Start on the TMNT II NES title screen.
"And down below the ground you can see the character's balls being stored"
Can you boundry break Mario odyssey please
Shelby Petretto i agree
I should mention it takes alot of time to make a working Camera. You saw when the Splatoon Episode came out and when Splatoon orignially came out. Now imagine it on the Switch, where it's difficult to mod.
Shelby Petretto Theres no way to do that right now.
TommyTom why not
ChaosPxl well he did boundry break sonic forces which is on Nintendo switch so why not boundry break Mario odyssey
On the table with the red block on it at the end, the reason the texture shows up on the surface of the table is because they baked the entire scene into the texture map including the lighting and reflections, and the texture coordinates overlap on that part of the table. If you look closely at the other objects in the room you can see they also have baked reflections that only look correct from one angle.
My favourite Mario Party game.
Don't judge me.
I could be the 1st dislike but I don't want to
Don’t care
@@MorganNye my guy i commented this 4 years ago.
Wait! The computer room is in the Matrix?! This is truely mind-blowin’!
The Offscreen Lonely Goomba: I'm a Lonely Goomba, stuck within the void. Guess I'll keep on floating for the rest of my life.
3:20 “I’m a lonely Goomba, stuck inside the void, we’ll I guess I’ll have to wait, to be featured on Boundary Break!”
This Is the only Mario party game that I ever had! Loved it!
You know, I'd love to see a video on one of the main two Klonoa games. The whole world is so varied and beautiful, I think it would be cool to see some off-camera stuff and find what Namco tried to hide away.
Like the new intro into the boundary break sign
That last one is really interesting, it looks like they wanted a specular reflection on the table, but the engine couldn't do it or they were trying to save on resources, so they rendered the table with a reflection separately then put that as the texture for the in-game version of the table. Since the camera doesn't move it doesn't have to react like a real reflection, only look enough like one.
That's really clever!
+Shesez - This is one of your best episodes, checking out games with so many different styles of gameplay / mechanics / presentation like the Mario Party series is a perfect fit for this show. Well done. I think Mario Party 10 and Nintendoland would be a couple of good ones to check out too if you get the chance. Keep up the great work Shesez!
I would have loved to see how Boo's Haunted Hideaway works in action.
I love mario party 8. And seeing all these new discoveries from a great UA-camr.
That thing in toad's hand may be something they used as a locator to attach things to his hand.
"Down below you can see the character's balls being stored" LOL
The sprites are batched in the main menu rendered many at a time. They wouldn’t have enough model slots to render them all anyway. The FMVs are a framebuffer copy rendered in a background layer but they couldn’t hide it with the way they draw them.
Duuuude today I was thinking about a mario party video! This totally surprised me!
I was expectating some boards or animations when the characters eat candies or step on traps.
Anyways, good job! I really love this series :)
This is the first ever Mario Party game, and first Wii game for the matter, I've ever played. I am so grateful I got to see you destroy it ;)
This is what I want when I watch boundary break, looking in buildings, finding goombas
I'm wondering of any of the game boards have any secrets to hide. Will you ever do a part 2 showing off how the boards work? I've always been curious to see what is outside of the camera on Koopa's Tycoon Town.
honestly i dont remember mario party 8 looking that good what- but im happy i finally get to see some of the more hidden parts of one of the games i played as a kid haha
Mario Party 8 was my first Mario Party, so this will be interesting for sure.
A very different game to break indeed! Poor Goomba though..
Ah, Mario Party. I wasn't struck on 8 personally but Mario Party 4, hell yes, that's one of my favourites.
I seriously love this show! It’s one of the only shows on UA-cam I watch every week!! Thanks man! Keep making such great content!
5:29 that is probably because those things are Elements that update during the game, they are probably UI that is rendered somwhere on a texture, but still needs to be somewhere to be rendered from. Maybe they could not have disabled render Layers on the Wii that are not rendered by the main camera, so they just made it render in screenspace behind everythign else.
I’m so happy that i found your channel. The German UA-camr iblali talked about your channel and this series.
Amazing work 👏🏽😊
🎵He's a lonly goomba, out there in the void, he doesn't have his gameboy, so he looks annoyed!🎵
Do Off Camera Secrets on Super Mario Sunshine. Would love to see that.
I suggested this last episode cant wait for more. There should be more zoom outs of the boards.
I wanted you to do this game as boundary break for a while since this is one of my favorite games!
This game deserves a part 2 for Boundary Break! especially for the main boards, andthe following minigames!
Sugar Rush,
Paint Misbehavin,
Kartastrophe,
Thrash N Crash,
Blazin Lassos
Loco Motives
the three challenge minigames
Yes! A Boundary Break on my favourite Game of my Childhood! Thank you soo much!
That lonely goomba is not stuck between two pipes. :O
Undocumented Discovery #1 - Paper Plane Toad Hand - 1:31
Undocumented Discovery #2 - Tires and Crates in the Building - 2:38
Undocumented Discovery #3 - Lonely Goomba at Hub World - 3:23
Undocumented Discovery #4 - Blue Animated Curtain - 3:37
Undocumented Discovery #5 - Unused Environment - 6:45
I like the fact that you included the original Mario Party soundtrack
This was the perfect video for a Lonely Goomba cameo...
6:18 "You can see the characters balls..." *moves camera between Luigis Legs* xD
6:17 “and down below the ground you can see the players balls being stored” XD
- We need someone to model a bird for the game. Any volunteers?
-YES, this is my opportunity to shine. ME! *I'll do the bird!*
Now everyone will respect me for my work! 8:15
One of my Favorite Mario Parties :3!!! Thanks for making this boundry break!
Your channel just keep getting better man.
Keep up the excellent work!
Much love from Argentina!