Thanks for doing these videos, Chris. Seems like everyone with a channel does "PSA reveal" videos now but they dont do the finantial breakdown. Chris Sewell - often copied, but never duplicated! Still the best card collecting youtuber around.
Would love to see you circle back to these types of videos about 6 months later and discuss your breakdown of what actually happened with each card. Still have it, sold it for this, traded into these, decided to resubmit, etc… Always enjoy your videos.
Between the skakira card and the womans soccer cards . I assume chris has a daughter. Even with no video shows how the hobby is expressed as family time. Collector, investor, dealer, dad
That Bob McAdoo card was shifting and floating around inside the slab as you held it. That can and will damage a card. For the prices they ask for grading they need to present a lot better product than the current one. Sadly it seems reveals these days from PSA will almost always have one or two cards graded 6 or lower for no good reason. Sad!
I came here to mention the McAdoo card shifting around inside the slab too. I wouldn't be worried about it actually damaging the card, but I'd much prefer to own one of the same grade that doesn't move inside the slab. I know Chris said he doesn't plan on fighting about the two broken slabs, but I would think PSA would happily wave the grading fee on those two. Especially for someone that grades as many cards as Chris that has his following.
@@pncrusePSA doesn’t care about complaints because people keep feeding the monster. Just look at Chris’s order; cracked slabs, shifting cards in holders and low grades on nice cards. Do you really think PSA is “professional”? The good news is that sooner or later a disgruntled ex-employee will come out with the truth about PSA and blow them up…although I bet graders have to sign non-discloser agreements before they work for PSA. I honestly believe the day will come when all those slabbed cards in PSA holders will mean nothing.
That order seemed pretty rough, but once you got to the financial breakdown, you were still quite ahead. It is pretty amazing how the several hits boost the overall bottom line, as you say.
Thanks for sharing, Chris. Glad you had a few big hits to help out. I have a similar sub in assembly right now with a mix of stuff from the last several decades, some PC, some for resale. This video is helping to temper my expectations.
The radical transparency is awesome, Chris. There has to be a buyer out there who understands that collections, like rebellions, are built on Hope Solo.
No explanation for low grades. You're just left to wonder. Extremely long return waiting times. Edit: Then you're also left to wonder about your cards & their grades for months. That could be stressful & I haven't even graded cards yet.
People are blinded by resale 🤷♂️. I cut off ties with them two years ago when they charged me for a card they didn't grade. They're corrupt and IF I ever grade again I'll use SGC
@@jk-califkid5017That’s a damn good point as I never thought of that. I have to do some eBay price searches of vintage PSA and SGC cards that look the same, but the SGC grade is higher.
Is there ever a time where you'd send in a low numbered card knowing it might only get a 6 or 7 and just get it slabbed as authentic? I had two auto jersey cards (2005 Mattingly #/25, and 2005 Todd Helton #/10) that I felt I would be lucky to get an 8. Neither had been graded by PSA before. After going back and forth on it, I decided to just grade them as authentic. Curious your thoughts. Cheers!
Forgive me if you already have a video for this, but could you do a video detailing what to look for to predict 8, 9, 10 before sending in? Also, with that what to look for with raw Vintage where it's more likely to be somewhere between maybe 4-7. Thanks for all you do!
Interesting that the McAdoo didn't come back as minsize since it moving around quite a bit in the holder. i would think you could ask PSA to re-holder the two cracked at no cost to you - don't crack without checking with them.
Always enjoy your PSA reveal videos. I'm curious why your order took so long. Of the 12 orders I've sent in this year either at the $19 or lower special they have been door-to-door 25-55 days. The recent ones have been on the longer side of 50 days since they were part of the $15 special and PSA got backed up. THere is always that 6 in the order that on first glance is a head scratcher but least for me I have found they usually have a half moon / thumbnail like indent that I missed.
You got lucky on your cracked cases. The last order I received had two cracked cases right in the lower left of the cases and damaged both of the cards that I was using to make and sell a set. I was really disappointed, but like you said there isn't much I could do about it.
Nice sub! You got some very nice grades for sure. I have been doing really good with my vintage reveals with my pregrades to what I get from PSA. I just posted a modern reveal that I was very nervous about but got some bangers for sure. Great grades on some serial numbered cards with extremely low pops. New subscriber here!!
I’ve also started tracking my grading wins and losses, and like you it seems like a handful of cards drive all the profit wirh most cards being only a nominal profit or small loss e.g. getting a 9 when I thought it had a shot at a 10
I just got an order back with about 40% psa 10s. What bothers me is the couple of cards that got a 6 or 7, they look the same as the 10s. Hitting a few 10s does pay for the order.
Guessing it was UPS that delivered your damaged package back, all my orders that have been damaged from submissions with cracked slabs have been from UPS. Here they got a massive pay boost for their drivers and yet they are the worst delivery drivers. My brother is a driver for the company and iv worked as a helper for 3 holiday seasons for an extra cash side hustle on top of my normal job and I can tell ya first hand packages are not handled with care from the warehouse to your door, from all parties that touch it majority of the time. Best company to ship or receive packages with is USPS -postal service full stop. UPS just doesnt care and throws packages into the trucks , its straight up air mail crashing all around while in transit. I used to raze the drivers i worked with telling them to chill out on tossing shit around in the truck it was that bad. Havent used UPS since seeing how they neglect peoples packages, especially when its a heavy day.
I can accept psa being tough on grading, but I don't think there is any excuse for stuff coming back from them damaged (even if it happened in shipping, its up to them to make sure everything is well protected IMO)
Would be interesting to see what % of sales are your "packaging" costs. Package being the plastic slab. Generally, packaging costs are 10% or less, of selling price for most businesses. Selling price in your case would be what you receive after commission/fees.
@17:40 wrong! She is Miami royalty(and just royalty all together) right now and someone in Miami will pay way too much for it! SHAKIRA TO THE MOON, but really, set this one high haha
So, if I understand your math, PSA made about $900 (before expenses) and you made $1610 (before expenses) from your order. It’s good to be PSA. I’m sure that less experienced graders don’t capture 2/3 of the increased value!
Thanks for the reveal! When I submit my PSA cards, they usually come back in numerical sequential order, did yours? From the video it seems like it was not in order. Just curious.
You said you weren’t charged for the 2 rejected cards but you put them as a -$40 loss, did PSA charge you for those? Also some of the chrome cards looked like they may have had some slight greening/fading on the surface. Maybe that was the reason for the lower grades .
Question for you going to be submitting some cards to PSA for the first time, what holders should I use for the thicker cards so they don't get damaged?
Just had the same grader as my ratio was 7-10's, 17-9's, and a 6. Hard to think about it. Good cards but didn't get that bump either. Just looses out on potential profits. 80's and 90's cards too. Alot of low pop cards. Thanks for the reveal. You've been on the other side before where you got the grade.👍
Thanks Chris, you just made me realize once again, that I really that I should focus on modern slabs with grades of 10s. Also, maybe I should use a service that cleans, inspects and ships out cards for me as a quality control move. What do you think?
Is there a lot that psa *won't* grade? I have some vintage pop culture and hiphop, but I don't specifically see it on their registries. Think it's a waste of time to try?
It seems so easy. But I consider you an expert and you still hit or miss quite a bit. I'm sure I would miss a lot more. I like these kind of videos, they keep me grounded. And keep me collecting and not try flipping or dealing.
Hey Chris, Pat from Japan here....just wondering , when you crack PSA cards from their holders do you/can you inform PSA so as not to effect the POP count?
I've seen some other UA-camrs recently talking about their cards allegedly getting damaged while in the hands of PSA. Is this becoming an increased problem or is this something that just happens sometimes?
A question about your PC, esp. your Cal Ripken PC as I have a player that I collect hard core also. Why do you care about cards that were made after that player’s career is finished?
Is there something or device that someone who doesn't have the eye like you, that one could use to help send in cards to be graded? That way one won't lose so much money on a card because of lack of knowledge.
Ouch on some of those grades and what was with the cracked holders? Will PSA re-slab those for free since they were damaged in shipping? I really appreciate your financial breakdowns as it really helps me think hard about what to grade and not grade for not only my PC but for profit.
Chris, if you had the '83 Star Lakers team bag (or team set, as you said, if it's no longer bagged), you should send in the James Worthy sometime if it's even halfway decent. That's his first NBA-licensed card.
Are you going to PC any of the Ohtani's? I know you collect HOF rookies, granted he's still young but I don't think any player in MLB history has had a start of a career quite like his.
It still astounds me that people buy PSA 10’s over 9’s when nobody can tell the difference most of the time. I don’t have one PSA 10 in my collection as I will gladly buy the 9 at a much cheaper price.
Watching this video makes me feel like PSA is a shi*show. Low grades for seemingly no reason, cards moving around inside holders, bad packing job that results in broken slabs, not grading legit cards. I guess when you’re king of the hill you can do whatever you want and not really be held accountable. I would definitely let them know about the broken slabs even if you don’t want to do anything about them, just so they’re aware and maybe look into how they package large orders.
Way too many PSA 9's, Thats why i dont use PSA anymore.. i use SGC i rather 9.5 than a 9.. Overall great video this lets me know PSA is still harsh with grading..
I mean it shouldn't be easy for a card to get a 10. Even modern cards are prone to, have some sort of defect. I've pulled off centered cards out of packs in the past few years
Thanks for doing these videos, Chris. Seems like everyone with a channel does "PSA reveal" videos now but they dont do the finantial breakdown. Chris Sewell - often copied, but never duplicated! Still the best card collecting youtuber around.
Would love to see you circle back to these types of videos about 6 months later and discuss your breakdown of what actually happened with each card. Still have it, sold it for this, traded into these, decided to resubmit, etc… Always enjoy your videos.
Thats a great idea...
LoL 6 months from now it will all be wayyy worse no covid bump coming anytime soon.
@@collectorinvestordealerI second this idea and I can’t think of anyone who’s actually doing it that way.
I am glad chris is confident enough to acknowledge he owns a shakira card.
Only thing wrong with a Shakira card is not owning one
Between the skakira card and the womans soccer cards . I assume chris has a daughter. Even with no video shows how the hobby is expressed as family time.
Collector, investor, dealer, dad
Shakira 😍
@@itmeyo0😊
Who is Shakara and what does she have to do dressing scanty in a sportscard?
That Bob McAdoo card was shifting and floating around inside the slab as you held it. That can and will damage a card. For the prices they ask for grading they need to present a lot better product than the current one. Sadly it seems reveals these days from PSA will almost always have one or two cards graded 6 or lower for no good reason. Sad!
I came here to mention the McAdoo card shifting around inside the slab too. I wouldn't be worried about it actually damaging the card, but I'd much prefer to own one of the same grade that doesn't move inside the slab. I know Chris said he doesn't plan on fighting about the two broken slabs, but I would think PSA would happily wave the grading fee on those two. Especially for someone that grades as many cards as Chris that has his following.
Totally agree
@@pncrusePSA doesn’t care about complaints because people keep feeding the monster. Just look at Chris’s order; cracked slabs, shifting cards in holders and low grades on nice cards. Do you really think PSA is “professional”? The good news is that sooner or later a disgruntled ex-employee will come out with the truth about PSA and blow them up…although I bet graders have to sign non-discloser agreements before they work for PSA. I honestly believe the day will come when all those slabbed cards in PSA holders will mean nothing.
That order seemed pretty rough, but once you got to the financial breakdown, you were still quite ahead. It is pretty amazing how the several hits boost the overall bottom line, as you say.
Nothing of value to add, other than I love your videos. One of the best channels on UA-cam!
I waited and waited for the hips don't lie, and I'm so glad you delivered
Enjoyed this PSA reveal and impressed with your ability to write upside down ✍️
I used to be a tutor and learned to write upside down :)
Thank you for...everything you put out. You've been an invaluable voice within the hobby and how to practically look at the business of the hobby.
Thanks for sharing, Chris. Glad you had a few big hits to help out. I have a similar sub in assembly right now with a mix of stuff from the last several decades, some PC, some for resale. This video is helping to temper my expectations.
Things I love: This channel. Things I don't love: PSA.
The radical transparency is awesome, Chris. There has to be a buyer out there who understands that collections, like rebellions, are built on Hope Solo.
I have a nearly complete set of the 1998 Leaf Fractal Materials. Would love a sit down to go through it.
Inconsistent grades, cracked cases, expensive grading. Have no idea why y’all continue to drink the PSA kool-aid..
No explanation for low grades. You're just left to wonder.
Extremely long return waiting times. Edit: Then you're also left to wonder about your cards & their grades for months. That could be stressful & I haven't even graded cards yet.
People are blinded by resale 🤷♂️. I cut off ties with them two years ago when they charged me for a card they didn't grade. They're corrupt and IF I ever grade again I'll use SGC
Resale is overhyped because if PSA grades a card a 3 and SGC grades the same card a 5, then PSA makes you lose $.
@@jk-califkid5017 that is correct 💯
@@jk-califkid5017That’s a damn good point as I never thought of that. I have to do some eBay price searches of vintage PSA and SGC cards that look the same, but the SGC grade is higher.
Is there ever a time where you'd send in a low numbered card knowing it might only get a 6 or 7 and just get it slabbed as authentic? I had two auto jersey cards (2005 Mattingly #/25, and 2005 Todd Helton #/10) that I felt I would be lucky to get an 8. Neither had been graded by PSA before. After going back and forth on it, I decided to just grade them as authentic. Curious your thoughts. Cheers!
I have not done that but I know a few people who like to do that
Forgive me if you already have a video for this, but could you do a video detailing what to look for to predict 8, 9, 10 before sending in? Also, with that what to look for with raw Vintage where it's more likely to be somewhere between maybe 4-7.
Thanks for all you do!
Would PSA compensate for the cracked cases that occur in shipping?
I'm not actually sure what their policy is there
Interesting that the McAdoo didn't come back as minsize since it moving around quite a bit in the holder.
i would think you could ask PSA to re-holder the two cracked at no cost to you - don't crack without checking with them.
Always enjoy your PSA reveal videos. I'm curious why your order took so long. Of the 12 orders I've sent in this year either at the $19 or lower special they have been door-to-door 25-55 days. The recent ones have been on the longer side of 50 days since they were part of the $15 special and PSA got backed up. THere is always that 6 in the order that on first glance is a head scratcher but least for me I have found they usually have a half moon / thumbnail like indent that I missed.
You got lucky on your cracked cases. The last order I received had two cracked cases right in the lower left of the cases and damaged both of the cards that I was using to make and sell a set. I was really disappointed, but like you said there isn't much I could do about it.
Appreciate the transparency. Great to see the profit/loss breakdown on the cards. Thanks for doing this, Chris. 👍
Thank You for sharing showing It’s Value ,Having an idea on PSA Cards Value
Nice sub! You got some very nice grades for sure. I have been doing really good with my vintage reveals with my pregrades to what I get from PSA. I just posted a modern reveal that I was very nervous about but got some bangers for sure. Great grades on some serial numbered cards with extremely low pops. New subscriber here!!
Would love to see your Ripken PC collection in a future video.
Where are you selling the Shohei
Chris, I am interested in the Kershaw. If you want to move it
“somebody out there has to want this badly” nothing has ever been more true
That’s strange a couple of cards were broken, I have PSA graded cards and it would take a lot of force for them to comeback like that???
"The HITS dont lie" LMAOOOO
Zing!
What about the kaline 🤔
I’ve also started tracking my grading wins and losses, and like you it seems like a handful of cards drive all the profit wirh most cards being only a nominal profit or small loss e.g. getting a 9 when I thought it had a shot at a 10
I just got an order back with about 40% psa 10s. What bothers me is the couple of cards that got a 6 or 7, they look the same as the 10s. Hitting a few 10s does pay for the order.
Guessing it was UPS that delivered your damaged package back, all my orders that have been damaged from submissions with cracked slabs have been from UPS. Here they got a massive pay boost for their drivers and yet they are the worst delivery drivers. My brother is a driver for the company and iv worked as a helper for 3 holiday seasons for an extra cash side hustle on top of my normal job and I can tell ya first hand packages are not handled with care from the warehouse to your door, from all parties that touch it majority of the time. Best company to ship or receive packages with is USPS -postal service full stop. UPS just doesnt care and throws packages into the trucks , its straight up air mail crashing all around while in transit. I used to raze the drivers i worked with telling them to chill out on tossing shit around in the truck it was that bad. Havent used UPS since seeing how they neglect peoples packages, especially when its a heavy day.
Does Solo ever shoot first in shoot-outs?
Love the random tik mark, marking, notice it seems to happen with
Great to have this series back! Some of my fav videos. Sorry to see your results however, seems like lower grades than usual.
I can accept psa being tough on grading, but I don't think there is any excuse for stuff coming back from them damaged (even if it happened in shipping, its up to them to make sure everything is well protected IMO)
Thats an impressive return considering the state of the market and the sub-optimal grades
Would be interesting to see what % of sales
are your "packaging" costs.
Package being the plastic slab.
Generally, packaging costs are 10% or less,
of selling price for most businesses.
Selling price in your case would be
what you receive after commission/fees.
Wait PSA donsent cover replacement of broken cases during shipping
I actually do not know their policy with that
I had my first PSA submission, I'm hoping it goes well.
@17:40 wrong! She is Miami royalty(and just royalty all together) right now and someone in Miami will pay way too much for it! SHAKIRA TO THE MOON, but really, set this one high haha
So, if I understand your math, PSA made about $900 (before expenses) and you made $1610 (before expenses) from your order. It’s good to be PSA. I’m sure that less experienced graders don’t capture 2/3 of the increased value!
I thought that 2018 babe Ruth was the ohtani ssp?
Where do u go to get the psa?
Thanks for the reveal! When I submit my PSA cards, they usually come back in numerical sequential order, did yours? From the video it seems like it was not in order. Just curious.
The order you saw in the video was the order they came in the box
It seems like psa is grading tougher and their CEO just came out and said they're, "applying their standards more consistently." Do you agree?
There is no question they are graded stricter than a few years ago
You said you weren’t charged for the 2 rejected cards but you put them as a -$40 loss, did PSA charge you for those? Also some of the chrome cards looked like they may have had some slight greening/fading on the surface. Maybe that was the reason for the lower grades .
Good point. That was a mistake on the end sheet.
Very transparent and i appreciate that. Thanks for the video and info.
...I think this is my favorite reveal format that i've seen lol.
Question for you going to be submitting some cards to PSA for the first time, what holders should I use for the thicker cards so they don't get damaged?
I use penny sleeve, thick top-loaders, and team bag for thicker cards
Cool to see the Steve Francis include. Him and Elton Brand shared rookie of the year. I guess that's a little rare.
Very rare. It was only the 3rd time in NBA history...hasn't happened again, since.
I really like these videos. Thanks for sharing.
Just had the same grader as my ratio was 7-10's, 17-9's, and a 6. Hard to think about it. Good cards but didn't get that bump either. Just looses out on potential profits. 80's and 90's cards too. Alot of low pop cards. Thanks for the reveal. You've been on the other side before where you got the grade.👍
They are damaging cards before slabbing them they did it to two cards of mine last month. I'm taking pictures of all my cards now before sending now.
Are these generally cards that you acquire as part of larger collections or singles that you buy to grade?
These are all cards that were acquired in large collections
Thanks Chris, you just made me realize once again, that I really that I should focus on modern slabs with grades of 10s. Also, maybe I should use a service that cleans, inspects and ships out cards for me as a quality control move. What do you think?
I have never used a company like that before so I dont really know
Is there a lot that psa *won't* grade? I have some vintage pop culture and hiphop, but I don't specifically see it on their registries. Think it's a waste of time to try?
There are plenty of items they wont grade, but I dont know about your cards specifically.
Would send them to SGC...good luck
It seems so easy. But I consider you an expert and you still hit or miss quite a bit. I'm sure I would miss a lot more. I like these kind of videos, they keep me grounded. And keep me collecting and not try flipping or dealing.
Hope Solo does sound like a Star Wars character... Sorry about those Ripkens Chris! Still beautiful and rare for sure.
Hey Chris, Pat from Japan here....just wondering , when you crack PSA cards from their holders do you/can you inform PSA so as not to effect the POP count?
I do not although I should probably start doing that
I have only ever cracked one case and have to get around to informing them...i wonder how this process works?@@collectorinvestordealer
PSA doesn't grade Lead autos
Killed me the whole video that you forgot to mark down the 8 on the die cut Griffey. Maybe I’m OCD.
Where are you sending the Star cards to sell? Comc?
Yeah those will go to COMC probably
Do you think Tatis cards will rebound? His PSA 10 base Topp's rookie are going for 35-40 now, they used to be 150.
I really don't know. That isn't something I would try to predict
Probably not
I've seen some other UA-camrs recently talking about their cards allegedly getting damaged while in the hands of PSA. Is this becoming an increased problem or is this something that just happens sometimes?
I have personally not noticed an increase in that
It happened to my order of 19 cards.I had a 1966 NL leaders, #215, a sweet card that came back a 3. I was steamed. Never use them again.
A question about your PC, esp. your Cal Ripken PC as I have a player that I collect hard core also. Why do you care about cards that were made after that player’s career is finished?
I do not collect any Ripken cards after he retired. He retired in 2001
Thanks Chris! The hops dont lie😂
Personally I would stay far away from Hope Solo. Excellent share.
Is there something or device that someone who doesn't have the eye like you, that one could use to help send in cards to be graded? That way one won't lose so much money on a card because of lack of knowledge.
A magnifying glass and a good lamp. 🙂
Definitely a spot-light or strong table lamp will help a lot
So what r u using to measure the cards? In this video you make it out that the card is to size from your measurements.
Shohei is so hot right now, you can slap just about any card in a PSA 8 slab and it will at least pay for the grading fee.
Thanks for sharing
Do more ohtani cards please.. we all want to know more about them.. especially because they are all about to go up in value
Ouch on some of those grades and what was with the cracked holders? Will PSA re-slab those for free since they were damaged in shipping? I really appreciate your financial breakdowns as it really helps me think hard about what to grade and not grade for not only my PC but for profit.
I am not sure about PSA's policy on the cracked holders.
The chrome Duncan seems to have a little greening / hulking…. They may have dinged u on surface for that…. Something they have been doing lately….
Yeah good catch on that
My kobe Kickstart came back a 5. That's a tough card to grade high.
Shakira card easily the best of the bunch.
Chris, if you had the '83 Star Lakers team bag (or team set, as you said, if it's no longer bagged), you should send in the James Worthy sometime if it's even halfway decent. That's his first NBA-licensed card.
Great catch. Yeah I had already sent in the Worthy and the Magic (just forgot to mention the Worthy)
Looks like your grader got cut off in traffic on the way to work that day lol
I truly believe PSA suppress psa 10 cards to the common collector unless you are a Vegas Dave type collector who knows the president personally.
Your bump in value on the Shakira automatically goes to pay for her tax evasion settlement
Great content!!! Keep it coming…
Any plans on switching to tag? Seems like it’s the future of grading. I have a feeling a lot of ppl with older psa 10s don’t really have a 10 card.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned, but PSA will reholder those cards for free. Vancouver still stinging from The Franchise’s draft year rebuke!
3.5 months? How did it take that long?
I think thats fairly standard at the moment
That's rough when they advertise like a month for the $19. They should refund some portion@@collectorinvestordealer
Are you going to PC any of the Ohtani's? I know you collect HOF rookies, granted he's still young but I don't think any player in MLB history has had a start of a career quite like his.
No, I'll sell all the Ohtanis. Hes still too young for me :)
The Hips Don’t Lie!
Awesome
It still astounds me that people buy PSA 10’s over 9’s when nobody can tell the difference most of the time. I don’t have one PSA 10 in my collection as I will gladly buy the 9 at a much cheaper price.
Thanks for the video.
Hello wanna sell the ANT MAN
Breaking even on 9s with a "bump"on 10s is not the greatesr business model but it just goes to show how down the market is.
Watching this video makes me feel like PSA is a shi*show. Low grades for seemingly no reason, cards moving around inside holders, bad packing job that results in broken slabs, not grading legit cards. I guess when you’re king of the hill you can do whatever you want and not really be held accountable. I would definitely let them know about the broken slabs even if you don’t want to do anything about them, just so they’re aware and maybe look into how they package large orders.
The leaf is probably the fact that they probably weren't licensed
Enjoy the content!
Was the Hope Solo card denied due to failing a PBT?
I hear Chris plans to sell the Shakira card whenever, wherever
I feel you on the Shakria boy. (see what I did there?) Could not be helped after your hips pun.
PSA should refund the grading fee on the two that were messed up…. IMHO.
Way too many PSA 9's, Thats why i dont use PSA anymore.. i use SGC i rather 9.5 than a 9.. Overall great video this lets me know PSA is still harsh with grading..
I mean it shouldn't be easy for a card to get a 10. Even modern cards are prone to, have some sort of defect. I've pulled off centered cards out of packs in the past few years