Can BOEING 747 land with all engines shutdown?? we tried! BUT, Something happened at 100 knots. FFS

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  • @jynnandtonnyx
    @jynnandtonnyx Рік тому +4

    This was done in real life. The Gimli Glider is the nickname for a Boeing 767 which ran out of fuel at 41,000 the Captain landed on a abandoned runway

  • @e.jacobson8103
    @e.jacobson8103 Рік тому +4

    פעם ראשונה בארוץ. איזה כיף לשמוע עברית. 😊

  • @debradonley8870
    @debradonley8870 Рік тому +17

    No one ever said pilot training was easy. Loved this video! It had me on the edge of my seat, even though it was a simulation.

  • @dianericciardistewart2224
    @dianericciardistewart2224 Рік тому +8

    Hey Captain Boeing! That was very interesting to see what would happen landing the Queen without engine power. Oh, the things you can try in a simulator! But it does keep you prepared and on your toes! That's always a good thing! Good job Captain RVV! This was fun to watch and listen to, Captain Boeing! I actually got a little laugh watching the two of you at the end as you were drifting off the runway - LOL! 🤣Thanks for sharing some of your 'training' sessions with us -- really cool! Stay safe out/up there! Blessings and cheers always, my dear friend!! 💕✈💕✈💕✈😉😉😉

  • @crawford323
    @crawford323 Рік тому +3

    What is the minimum speed needed to hold the nose up after touch down. At what point with full aft yoke will the nose come down on it own? Another words how much aerodynamic braking can utilized after touch down. Also what was the rate of decent at 250 knots once the gear came down? Very good. I enjoyed this very much.

    • @bortfort7939
      @bortfort7939 7 місяців тому

      I don't know the answer on your question, but I can say that the brake accumulators can be used to stop the airplane. They provide 3000 psi but discharge once you release😅

  • @WendyKS93
    @WendyKS93 Рік тому +5

    Captain Boeing is always a superb leader and trainer. Very interesting simulator video. Enjoyed this.

  • @allenmurray7893
    @allenmurray7893 Рік тому +2

    You moved the camera too much, and why did you play with the throttles when the engines were shutdown? Otherwise, this was fun.

  • @AirrowRocket
    @AirrowRocket Рік тому +5

    That was a lot of fun. You came is so fast I was surprised you were able to stop on the runway.

  • @jacklabloom635
    @jacklabloom635 Рік тому +1

    Commercial Airplanes have the glide ratio of a brick. When you loose so much trust, the plane can no longer hold altitude, it is going down and there are low odds there will be a runway close enough. Also, the stress factor in a real emergency is way more than any simulated emergency.

  • @bortfort7939
    @bortfort7939 Рік тому +3

    Great video, have been searching a long time for this scenario in the sim!
    I have some questions:
    How was the APU started with all engines on and all AC busses pwrd?
    Was the APU used to pwr the grd serv bus in turn powering the batt's?
    And did the APU provide bleed air for the DEM pumps (I assume all 4 air driven), if so why did the pneumatic LE's not extend and the gear and TE flaps extend so slowly (with full HYD capability, EDP's and demand pumps)?
    Last questions 😅:
    Why weren't the APU gens turned on?
    Why did you lose hydraulic power on the ground with the demand pumps?
    And why does the brake source light flicker?
    Sorry for all the questions I'm really trying to understand the 747-400😂😅

  • @haimbenavraham1502
    @haimbenavraham1502 Рік тому +1

    Makes you wonder why there's no automatic emergency generator for the hydraulic's.

  • @dadflys-6632
    @dadflys-6632 Рік тому +4

    Excellent simulation. I do this with my Beechcraft Baron sometimes using zero-thrust on both engines.
    Just curious: Would aerodynamic breaking after touchdown..by holding the yoke fully back…have created a tail-strike at that speed?

    • @HotelPapa100
      @HotelPapa100 Рік тому

      At 250 knots she'd probably have lifted off again. They didn't flare completely to keep ram air pressure high.

    • @dadflys-6632
      @dadflys-6632 Рік тому

      @@HotelPapa100 I totally agree!

  • @nickrynenberg4364
    @nickrynenberg4364 Рік тому +7

    That was unreal, always wanted to know what happens when you land a 747 with no engine power. I imagine it would be very stressful thing especially if you have a very heavy load. Thanks for showing it. 👍

    • @XB10001
      @XB10001 Рік тому

      It's stressful on any airplane, even a glider.

    • @andresouza2314
      @andresouza2314 Рік тому

      That already happened...

    • @NoTAtchoum
      @NoTAtchoum Рік тому

      @@XB10001 that is... the whole point of a glider, the only source of stress is if you have a reason to go around like runway incursion, otherwise it's just a landing

    • @XB10001
      @XB10001 Рік тому

      @@NoTAtchoum or a rope break during launch, downdrafts close to final (though it is ok if you are at about 1/2 spoilers), miscalculations on approach, etc.
      It's not juat having a reason to go around.
      I used to fly gliders.

    • @NoTAtchoum
      @NoTAtchoum Рік тому

      @@XB10001 had a rope incident on takeoff, not a rope break tho, it is indeed scary but you're trained for that and yeah for the approach if you did it right, you're about half speedbrakes, if you have downdrafts just stow them a bit and correct (happens a lot on one of the runways of my home airfield)

  • @spelldaddy5386
    @spelldaddy5386 Рік тому +1

    On the ground, could you use differential braking to maintain the centerline?

  • @KD0LRG
    @KD0LRG Рік тому +2

    Looks like you can walk away so it was a great landing.

  • @SaxKitty00
    @SaxKitty00 Рік тому +2

    😯 that was tense! Great job landing with all engines out 👍 in the unlikely event…. 744 becomes massive glider ✈️ fly safe have a great day dear Captain ✈️❤️🥰

  • @misskittyny
    @misskittyny Рік тому +2

    Excellent Training Video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Beautiful ❤️ Such Patience Captain G with a sense of humor ❤️🇺🇸❤️✈️❤️

  • @alialtun1508
    @alialtun1508 Рік тому +1

    Hello dear colleague I wish ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ ♥️ you good flights

  • @Dstew57A
    @Dstew57A Рік тому +1

    Don’t you ever get complacent Captain Boeing…we love you!

  • @imkeerock
    @imkeerock Рік тому +1

    That was fun. Enjoyed the video.

  • @tinkertailor7385
    @tinkertailor7385 Рік тому +1

    But we know a 747 can land with all engines out and do it successfully. Just ask the Canadian pilots who fueled up their aircraft and calculated liters as gallons and ran out of fuel. They glided to and landed at an abandoned military airstrip that now hosted drag races....

  • @thunderbolt513
    @thunderbolt513 Рік тому +1

    Although a nice and funny outcome, I hope you'll never have to deal with such a situation for real. Happy landings from Portugal Capt.

  • @EdOeuna
    @EdOeuna Рік тому +1

    Interesting that the APU doesn’t do much in the air. It’s common to mess about in the 777 sim after a session, with dead stick approaches and the likes. Clearly Boeing redesigned the hydraulics so that you’ve always got a pressurised system.

  • @fauziakhan-wx3wk
    @fauziakhan-wx3wk Рік тому +1

    Congratulations Captain very nice video❤😎♥️

  • @catlady4765
    @catlady4765 Рік тому +1

    That was awesome Capt!! You are a great teacher!! Thankful it didnt really happen!

  • @OG29
    @OG29 Рік тому

    SFO = TKO 1988. It happened (due unexpected headwinds).
    Lost last main on approach and landed on the APU. Lost the APU on rollout. No casualties or damage to the aircraft.
    I was on board.

  • @NeroontheGoon
    @NeroontheGoon Рік тому

    APU would have to be producing air and electrical to run the ADP’s for hydraulics. Otherwise the flaps would be lowered in FLAPS ALT mode and gear would be lowered in GEAR ALT mode. No air, no hydraulics, unless your airspeed had enough ooompf to rotate the cores fast enough to turn the hydraulic pumps. This was dumb!

  • @sarikaramlochan4376
    @sarikaramlochan4376 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video , great job done by the captain

  • @kmg501
    @kmg501 Рік тому

    So would the landing (steering) wheel turn (fail to keep straight) in a real world situation of a total loss of hydraulic pressure? Is that a full hydraulic steering system or a hydraulic assist system? Also, why the attempt of full reverse with all engines out? That doesn't make sense on the face of it, what don't I know here? Maybe it is just opening the reversing engine cowls for added drag? Thank you.

  • @slovokia
    @slovokia Рік тому

    So I guess the only thing the APU on an 747 provides is electricity and bleed air. Looks like some subsystems do not have hydraulic diversity that can be powered by electric pumps powered by the APU.

  • @yflow5337
    @yflow5337 Рік тому

    I cant believe that with working APU steel not enough power to pressurize hydraulic system to provide controls over wheel turn system. As result landing at 230 kts very dangerous.

  • @danieljakubovic
    @danieljakubovic Рік тому

    These Israeli pilot dudes… if you can trust someone in the air , those guys are the best . It’s a type of character that never looses cool .

  • @Michael-iw3ek
    @Michael-iw3ek Рік тому +1

    Formerly

  • @gerrycorbino66
    @gerrycorbino66 Рік тому +1

    That was an excellent demonstration of an emergency situation and how a well trained pilot can safely land a 747.

  • @marcatteberry1361
    @marcatteberry1361 Рік тому

    Seeing this, makes me wonder how they could not have a better system.
    Better APU
    Better hydraulics
    Braking and steering system needs to last long enough to stop. (ya think?)

  • @stevenlarratt3638
    @stevenlarratt3638 Рік тому

    Try again, start at FL350 then do a shut off over somewhere like JFK to enable several landing options.

  • @CaptainRonAhoy
    @CaptainRonAhoy Рік тому

    Are you driving the rudder after landing?....back and forth, back and forth....

  • @FlyGuy2000
    @FlyGuy2000 Рік тому +1

    It's actually very comforting to know that this can be done, thanks for this!

  • @darringraham2613
    @darringraham2613 Рік тому

    Great, now air line management will shutdown all aircraft engines 6 miles from the airport to save them money 🤣🤣🤣❤️✈️

  • @valtito9297
    @valtito9297 Рік тому

    THAT SHOULD BE PRACTICED UNTIL IT BECOMES JUST ANOTHER NORMAL LANDING! PERFECTION

  • @Rocketman88002
    @Rocketman88002 Рік тому

    You are a poor simulator operator if you can't land a 747 with no power!😂😮😅

  • @OneTequilaTwoTequila
    @OneTequilaTwoTequila Рік тому

    These clowns obviously don't know their systems very well.

  • @gzk6nk
    @gzk6nk Рік тому +1

    Why was the approach so fast? 230 kts over the threshold! You have flaps? Why not get the speed back nearer to where it should be?

    • @CaptainBoeing
      @CaptainBoeing  Рік тому

      We were high on the approach

    • @CaptainBoeing
      @CaptainBoeing  Рік тому

      But windmill of engines keep hydraulic, you saw what happened at 100 .. because, no hydraulic

    • @gzk6nk
      @gzk6nk Рік тому

      @@CaptainBoeing Doesn't the APU keep hydraulics going? Doesn't the 747 have a 'RAT' as well?

    • @janreznak881
      @janreznak881 Рік тому

      @@gzk6nk The -400 has no RAT.

  • @LoneWelshDruid
    @LoneWelshDruid Рік тому

    I have done it on a sim. I cut all thrust at 30k ft and landed in the desert, not a strip.

  • @T_210
    @T_210 Рік тому

    Too bad we can't see airspeed and altimeter the whole way down. Please?

  • @yaronsteinbuch3956
    @yaronsteinbuch3956 Рік тому +1

    יפה מאוד! 😊

  • @andrewlarson7895
    @andrewlarson7895 Рік тому

    He wrecked the plane you're fired homes

  • @envitech02
    @envitech02 Рік тому

    Cessna PPL here. I think this touchdown is quite high at 230KIAS. Normal touchdown speed should be about 160 IINM. More flaps to be deployed on approach. Just my 2 cents.

    • @Hk-uw8my
      @Hk-uw8my Рік тому

      not a cessna here, the controls can't be moved by sole human strenght, hence why the need the fly fast to windmill the engines in order to have some hydraulic power, since they didn't use apu's help.

  • @mumblesbadly7708
    @mumblesbadly7708 Рік тому

    …all engines SHUT DOWN…

  • @frankbyte
    @frankbyte Рік тому

    Full reverser when there is no engine power?

  • @Jz-sv1ju
    @Jz-sv1ju Рік тому

    Keep in mind that in a Sim you already know ahead of time and can prepare accordingly. In a real world scenario, emergencies happen unanounced and you only get 1 chance, there are no retakes.

    • @Hk-uw8my
      @Hk-uw8my Рік тому

      Lol no in a sim it's not mandatory to know everything ahead of time, people arent that stupid.

  • @prmath
    @prmath Рік тому

    the Space Shuttle could 😳😳😳😳😳😳

  • @57Jimmy
    @57Jimmy Рік тому

    Thats the great thing about aircraft design. They will still fly albeit in a descent as long as you can keep the airspeed high enough. You WILL descend right down to the ground…hopefully to a place that will cause minimal damage.

  • @philipberry6477
    @philipberry6477 Рік тому

    Generally this sort of aeroplane has a chance of making a straight in approach dead stick if altitude is twice the normal….and care is taken with increasing drag. Rudder effectiveness drops rapidly below 100 kts.

  • @zachansen8293
    @zachansen8293 Рік тому

    I thought they said the APU was running and providing hydraulics edit : Yeah at 1:40 he says they're running the APU for hydraulics.

  • @jamesbraun7709
    @jamesbraun7709 Рік тому

    A 747 with no motors , it's gonna land someplace .They have a little wind generator to help and E gear drop and a long runway . This did happen at Kai tak Hong Kong . Really good practice .

  • @mikedrake5738
    @mikedrake5738 Рік тому

    Would you have deployed the RAT in this situation in addition to starting the APU in flight?

    • @e.jacobson8103
      @e.jacobson8103 Рік тому

      Is the simulator a 747-800? If not, no RAT on other 747s.

  • @jaw1180
    @jaw1180 Рік тому

    Land …yes stop…not so much

  • @valtito9297
    @valtito9297 Рік тому

    WAS PLANE FULLY LOADED?

  • @GARYINLEEDS
    @GARYINLEEDS Рік тому

    Kindly allow me to share, one of my best, LAX Night time landings ever?

  • @billakers6082
    @billakers6082 Рік тому

    I had the instructor flame out all three engines at the outer marker in a B727 simulator and I barely made it.

  • @MrDo0bie
    @MrDo0bie Рік тому

    Hahahaha! =D well done, sort of...

  • @mar91942
    @mar91942 Рік тому

    Looked like some moves from the Fast & Furious movies after you hit 100 knots

  • @robertwatson818
    @robertwatson818 Рік тому

    What is your best glide speed? Probably around 300 mph

  • @ImperrfectStranger
    @ImperrfectStranger Рік тому +3

    Armchair expert here:
    1:30 The ILS should be working. The Standby Bus was operative. Try a manual entry if you have time.
    With no elec power on the main busses, you probably won't be able to control the ADPs (Air Driven Hydraulic Pumps) or the EDPs. In Aux mode (on the ground) you might get hydraulics on system 1 for braking.
    Why did you lose directional control on the ground? Differential braking not working? The brake reservoir should have supplied enough hydraulics for a full stop.
    I think these big sims are programmed to give the absolute worst result to stop the manufacturers from being sued.

    • @steveanderson9290
      @steveanderson9290 Рік тому

      I'm not a pilot, but I assumed he steered off the runway intentionally to give himself more stopping distance while remaining on the airport grounds, and also to avoid hitting approach light structures (and other bad stuff) off the end of the runway.

  • @GARYINLEEDS
    @GARYINLEEDS Рік тому

    Thank You. Thank You. Thank You.
    Amazing... Entertainment.

  • @JohnSmith-lw2bm
    @JohnSmith-lw2bm Рік тому

    Would’ve gone better with apu power for sure.

  • @stevenlarratt3638
    @stevenlarratt3638 Рік тому

    RAT and APU needed

  • @6165134
    @6165134 Рік тому

    Your best thriller yet. Thanks, I really enjoyed it.

  • @captainsoftheazulcarrib7491

    Nice job👍🏻

  • @XB10001
    @XB10001 Рік тому

    Impressive.

  • @chenwong1036
    @chenwong1036 Рік тому

    I understand the APU can power the hydraulics in case of all engine out. Also each engine can provide hydraulic pressure from windmiling, but what does this mechanism work? How can engine windmiling provide hydraulic pressure?

    • @ImperrfectStranger
      @ImperrfectStranger Рік тому

      The N2 rotor on the engine (N3 on a Rolls Royce) is mechanically attached to an "accessory" gearbox. On this gearbox are things like the electrical generator, the engine hydraulic pump, the engine starter and a small electrical alternator for powering the engine computer (EEC). A windmilling fan (N1) draws air into the core of the engine and there will be some rotation of the N2 rotor. Probably not quite enough to run main elec generators, but enough to power the hydraulic pump above a certain airspeed.

  • @riverwildcat1
    @riverwildcat1 Рік тому

    Fun!

  • @tigerweider8300
    @tigerweider8300 Рік тому

    The landing was safe because the plane was closed to the airport when the aigines stopped working!! All depends on the distance

  • @kenstevenson4133
    @kenstevenson4133 Рік тому +2

    Good job making the runway. Brakes must have been extremely hot.Thanks for sharing this video, keep up the good work.

  • @Waltaere
    @Waltaere Рік тому

    First 😃

  • @paullynch8887
    @paullynch8887 Рік тому

    Every ship is a minesweeper and every airplane is a glider. As someone who has actually landed an actual jet with all engines out, this seemed to be done without much thought or in-depth knowledge of the aircraft. Every aircraft has a best glide speed and a known glide ratio, but they seemed unaware of the numbers even in a general sense. Crews do not train for this exceptionally unlikely event because the probabilities are so low. The only time something like this is normally considered is on takeoff and encountering a flock of birds that FOD the engines. Then you are in trouble because you have little altitude or airspeed to use to survive.

    • @andrewbergman9315
      @andrewbergman9315 Рік тому

      Usually best glide speed = best climb rate speed. It is interesting that best glide is not a published airspeed for larger aircraft. In the heat of the moment I would go with best climb speed.

    • @paullynch8887
      @paullynch8887 Рік тому

      Best climb would likely be too fast. Best glide speed is 1.3 times the clean configuration stall speed for the aircraft’s gross weight. Best climb speeds for jets are optimized base on multiple factors, including a comfortable pitch attitude for the passengers. The best glide speed for the jet I fly is 70-80 knots below the published climb profile.

    • @andrewbergman9315
      @andrewbergman9315 Рік тому

      What jet did you land dead stick?

    • @paullynch8887
      @paullynch8887 Рік тому

      @@andrewbergman9315 Lear 35 into KPGA

    • @andrewbergman9315
      @andrewbergman9315 Рік тому

      @@paullynch8887 wow, how did you manage to lose both engines? Is there a references to this anywhere I can read? I thought maybe you had experienced such a failure in a military jet as it is not exactly a common occurrence in civilian jets to lose all engines.

  • @piotrchwalek6925
    @piotrchwalek6925 Рік тому

    Great video captain!

  • @АртёмХуршудян-ч9в

    Bon ane bon voyage 🛫

  • @davidharvey4059
    @davidharvey4059 Рік тому +1

    This is what the simulator THOUGHT would happen, but that's only based on what it was programmed to do
    Nobody really knows until it happens.

  • @meister6934
    @meister6934 Рік тому

    Awesome !!

  • @user-wl6bw3jl4n
    @user-wl6bw3jl4n Рік тому

    if the engines are shut down, why do you keep your right hand on the thrust levers?

    • @andrewbergman9315
      @andrewbergman9315 Рік тому

      even shutdown the turbines are spinning and so opening up the thrust reverser doors provides aerodynamic braking effects

    • @user-wl6bw3jl4n
      @user-wl6bw3jl4n Рік тому

      @@andrewbergman9315 if the engines are shit down, there is no reverse thrust. You cannot actuate the reversers in flight on a B747. Even upon touchdown, with no engines operating, reverse thrust is not available.

    • @Hk-uw8my
      @Hk-uw8my Рік тому

      ​@@user-wl6bw3jl4nwrong, reverse thrust is actuated by hydraulic power, and not the engines themselves. So you can still open them and redirect whatever breeze your engine is producing.

  • @anonydun82fgoog35
    @anonydun82fgoog35 Рік тому +1

    Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing where the aircraft can be used again afterwards is a great landing!

    • @hepphepps8356
      @hepphepps8356 Рік тому

      I think maybe people has heard that enough times by now. Please stop.

  • @crazyblat
    @crazyblat Рік тому +1

    great sim! but quick question... you came too high too fast... why didnt you tried to do 360 before landing?

  • @Maersky-747
    @Maersky-747 Рік тому

    Why do you need APU for power for the hydraulics? If ALL engines fail, why did the RAT - Ram Air Turbine not automatically deploy?

    • @AirrowRocket
      @AirrowRocket Рік тому

      You don't use a RAT when you have an operable APU.

    • @EndofDescent
      @EndofDescent Рік тому +1

      Exactly ... actually, at 0:03 you can see that the APU is already running before the engines are being cut off. I shall add that in the 747-400 the APU cannot be started in-flight. Nevertheless, great landing, well done.

    • @AirrowRocket
      @AirrowRocket Рік тому

      @@EndofDescent It can when the engines are shut down.

    • @CaptainBoeing
      @CaptainBoeing  Рік тому +2

      No RAT in Boeing 747-400

    • @CaptainBoeing
      @CaptainBoeing  Рік тому +2

      No RAT

  • @八尾隆之
    @八尾隆之 Рік тому

    What technology😳 unbelievable😳 how coool😮

  • @flyoverkid55
    @flyoverkid55 Рік тому

    Any landing you can walk away from...

  • @cherifbar
    @cherifbar Рік тому

    you should of retracted the flaps after touch down to make the brakes more effective and increase the effect of friction. no?

    • @ImperrfectStranger
      @ImperrfectStranger Рік тому

      They wouldn't have had enough hydraulic power to retract the flaps even if it was a logical thing to do. The runway surface looked dry. With so much energy and no antiskid, they would have cooked the brakes/tyres even without the flaps generating lift.

    • @Hk-uw8my
      @Hk-uw8my Рік тому

      You dont need to do that as you have speedbrakes.

    • @andrewbergman9315
      @andrewbergman9315 Рік тому

      flaps = drag so no, you want them out to produce aerodynamic braking for the same reason he pulled the speed brake lever.

  • @videowatcher4006
    @videowatcher4006 Рік тому

    If ever I'm on a plain and we have to land with no engines, please make sure it's this pilot on board!

  • @isabellae.hereees
    @isabellae.hereees Рік тому

    That was pretty interesting to watch😅

  • @velonico
    @velonico Рік тому

    You make it seem like Magic... but its simple science... a Janitor can land the plane. 😂