Is CHARLIE CARREL really CRUSHING at NL100 ? DEEP REVIEW !
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Charlie carrel is a fraud in this video. He just shows a tiny sample of aggro adaptation to a nitty pool that worked well in this instance (until they realise what’s going on). It wouldn’t work as well if people knew his real alias. Also it’s obvious that he has a deep understanding and evolved intuitive feel for the game which allows him to get away with these fancy plays while his students would easily just spew without the same xp : so not a good model or style to follow for aspiring pros or developing players.
Right after Uri’s video, great minds think alike ! Highly appreciated format !!
Precisions on EVGD (EV Global Distribution) : 34:09
There is a mathematical concept in computer sciences called Idempotence.
Idempotence is a property of operations or functions that, when applied multiple times with the same input, produce the same result as if it were only applied once. In other words, the operation or function can be repeated multiple times without changing the result beyond the first application.
For example, let's take a piece of cake :
Looking at a cake:
It is an idempotent situation : If you look at a cake once or twice, the result is the same, i.e., you see the same cake in the same state.
Eating the cake Eating a cake:
Non-idempotent: If you eat a piece of cake, the cake will be physically changed, and you cannot eat the same piece of cake again. If you eat the same piece of cake twice, it is not the same as eating it once, and the cake will eventually disappear.
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Let's come back to Poker.
If you play in a GTO world (let's assume all players play close to E-Nash.)
You faced a bet on the river. Your hand is 0 EV to call. You can call or fold. Vilain will always play gto.
If you replicate this spot 1000 times. Either you're calling or you're folding, it doesn't change the EV of the call.
This is an non idempotent situation.
However vs a human, it's never ev0. It can be +EV, sometimes you loose a bit and sometimes a lot.
In an non idempotent situations. You have your EV distributed non equally depending on the sub population you're facing.
This creates EV global distribution, this doesn't exist in the gto world, but we play in the human world.
Fully explaining all impacts and metrics of EV Distribution probably takes 2 hours. This is my most powerful and secret concept, so that will not be for today .
Still gave a cool example in the UA-cam video.
Peace.
Mate I would love to speak with you for multiple hours about this concept alone? Is there any way we can make that happen?
@@stephenc9813 Knowing I don't do coaching right now and I have projects going on taking most of my time. I don't think it will be possible for the moment.
Feel free to ask questions ,and I will answer.
I follow a lot of poker players and so on, but I can say for sure, you are the best at explication, because you make everything is so logical. Thank you a lot.
and Charlie Carrel for sure is the worst out there
Yeah Charlie’s plays are extremely crazy for online. He looks at poker in a different way, and it’s worked for him. He definitely has some white magic. That’s somewhat how I’ve always played too i started young when I was 16 in 2006
Precisions on MP-rules (BPA) :
38:39
What I called MPR : (we can also named Bayesian Profiles Analysis)
Bayesian Profiles Analysis is a method of analyzing player tendencies in poker based on correlations in their play across different lines (e.g. calling, folding, checking etc...).
By identifying sub-populations of players with similar tendencies, we can weight their actions differently to gain insights into how they are likely to act in a given situation.
For example, suppose we identify a sub-population of fish players who tends to bet the pot on the flop.
Within this group, some players will check the turn with a weak hand (P2), while others will continue betting (P3).
Our analysis shows that players who belong to this sub-population (P1) are more likely to fold on the river if they checked the turn with a weak hand (P2) than if they continued betting (P3).
While this doesn't mean that a player holding a weak hand will always fold on the river, our analysis suggests that the proportion of players who will fold in this situation is higher than the proportion who will call.
We can use this information to our advantage by tailoring our own betting strategy based on the tendencies of players in this sub-population (P1) and other sub-populations like those who tend to fold more often when facing a river bet (P4).
Overall, Bayesian Profiles Analysis (or MPR) provides a powerful tool for gaining insights into player tendencies and making more informed decisions at the poker table.
However, it is important to use this method with caution, as mistakes in analysis can be costly and may outweigh the potential benefits.
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Thank you for writing it all out.
Are you describing creating villain profiles then doing mda work for these profiles and finally adapting in-game once we identified the profile?
@@NLHeroit’s the best but if you dont , you can use experience and intuition
Precisions on EDEV 0:58
EDEV (or EEVD Evolution of EV Distribution) helps you to understand how EV is distributed depending on the scenarios you're in. For example, "I have an edge so I call." Making this assumption changes automatically your EV in the other lines (here the 3B line).
Here, if we expect calling to be EV+ with KQo, there is a high chance that in scenarios where KQo is actually +EV to call, KQo makes more money by 3B.
You can represent this with a graph and three curves with different colors. On the Y-axis, you have the EV. On the X-axis, you have different assumptions/scenarios. EV is going to change depending on the scenario (I play vs. a fish, I play vs. a passive player, etc.).
I don't see any scenarios where calling is higher EV than the 3bet. It will be represented by the "3B curve" always being above the "calling curve," which means the EDEV of the spot shows 3B > Call in any scenarios (this is just to visualize, mathematically you can't say the curve is above another one).
If done quickly IG, you can save time in your thinking process, and you can visualize EV differences between the scenarios better. It's not the most useful concept also not the most difficult one, but still a cool one.
This is a very good explanation of an advanced concept. Just out of curiosity, are these scenarios assuming players are attempting to play as close to GTO as possible? We all know Charlie loves his GTO and he gains a lot of EV in unconventional lines that a simulated model may not account for.
@@shanepinkerton9295 you can use CREV or other software to calculate EV depending on assumptions you make.
You can calculate with relative
accuracy the EV of two moves.
For the EEVD, it just a tool to help you visualise how EV evolve given the assumption you make, but it can be all assumptions. Including playing against weaker player.
@@YolanCohenPoker Thank you. You have a very good understanding of these concepts, honestly, maybe the best of anyone I have ever heard explaining them. Very strong understanding of the game.
I'm not sure I follow this concept?
Maybe I'm not getting it right, but it sounds like you're saying: factors which change the EV of one line disproportionally compared to the EVs of other lines don't exist.
I disagree with this notion, even disregarding the obvious "rec in BB" exception.
To me, it would seem (at the very least theoretically) possible to have pool data or reads that someone loses more EV Postflop playing against a flat compared to playing against a 3b.
Or did you just mean that in *this specific situation*, you didn't see any factors which could disproportionally affect the Call EV?
In general, it's obviously true that changing the EV of one line, by the definition of how GTO works, also affects the EV of other gametree branches.
I just disagree with the idea that a certain change of the total EV distribution is necessarily proportionally distributed over all gametree branches.
I don't see a theoretical reason why factors that change one line's EV disproportionally (to the point of that line actually becoming higher EV) can't exist, and in practice it's quite easy to imagine such factors (even if it's an exaggerated scenario, like someone who plays perfect GTO against 3b, but loves jamming junk on the flop into a flatting range).
Maybe you're just saying that *in practice*, you don't see any such factors here, which is obviously entirely fair. But again, I don't see why at least in theory, it's not impossible for the EEVD to not be proportionally distributed over all gametree branches.
Lmk what you think :)
Your thought process is really fun, informative and stimulating to listen to, and it's easy to see that you're very very smart. Your understanding of the game is outstanding.
@@Felix2010w hey Félix do you have discord ? So I can answer you there, would be easier for me.
I really like the technique of deconstructing a spot into different scenarios. Instead of playing a guessing game of 'what is this guys specific range', we just weigh up different player profiles to come up with an 'average pool profile'. Helps really clarify the thought process. It's kinda like linear superposition xd
It's linear superposition, but I think EV distribution is more appropriate
@@YolanCohenPoker you should review some other streamers on your channel, might help get more traffic. I suggest David Kaye poker, and weazel-1991 (Weazel is a Triton Champion millionaire who easily beat Limitless HU)
@@_MMWWMM_ holy sh** he won there ??
Yeah I would do it it's a great idea
@@YolanCohenPoker how can a player of your caliber deal with stupid UA-cam questions and stay friendly? Lmao great job
@@Realnamenogimmicksdude I’m very calm in general and I have a small ego so it doesn’t affect me.
Such an insightful review! love the content and would really enjoy more reviews like this.
Thanks more video will come !
Hi Yolan, really great video!! Love your explanations. Just to bed that sometimes I just can't understand what you're saying BC it's to quick.
Great video. Very insightful, dare I say too much for us mere mortals. You obviously have a great poker mind and have put in the work. I joined the discord and look forward to more of your content. Thx
Amazing value👏👏👏👏👏👏
thanks for this
I'm 99% sure that Charlie recorded A LOT of videos of himself 'live streaming' and then uploaded this one where everyone of his crazy plays worked to make himself like a genius. Which is pretty synonymous of his scammy type site and coaching if anyone knows his history. I do think he is a smart and good player but this guy is tricky both in game and out.
I don’t know him personally, He does seem like a good guy.
I think both of our audience is different.
He might reach more new players than me, so he might be more incentive to show quick results, compared to showing mistakes etc..
UA-cam game i believe.
-Great vod
-Practisse
-Looks like your accent has improved even more since last time (or maybe it's just me but still)
-is the EDEV concept related to your tips on the "plausibilité" (dont know how to translate it, likelyhood maybe) of different hypothesis about a player and a certain play
-I'd be interested in knowing what was your field of study before poker (if any)
Thanks
The concept you're referring to is MPRules (matching profils rules) I explained it in the comments. I think the name BPA (Bahesian ponderation analysis) is a more accurate name.
Didn't study deeply anything, I was very bad at school. Did one year of sport "science" and GU.
@@YolanCohenPoker yeah I definitely mistook them mb. Thanks for your answer (the last one doesn't surprise me somehow)
you're the only person on earth who should pronounce practays instead of practice so continue saying practays my man! :P
It should sound so akward for the english native c)
5:55 - I don't think we size down in theory due to "A lack of bluffs". We size down because we heavily block the calling range.
Which spot are you talking ? I highly doubt I said something like this
@@YolanCohenPoker 27:00. Apologies you said having so many bluffs isn't the reason you want to ginge River.
could u do one on jarretman as well?
Already done, i need to edit it
none related question. Im in a small town for work and I will stay here for a year. I asked for a poker room and there is only one and its not legal. I went and asked the rake. They play 1-2 with 8% rake no cap and 3 tables of 10 . I left. Im used at 5% rake with 5bb cap. Any thoughts anybody....
@@dimitrisbababa 8% no cap is the biggest rake I saw and is completely unbeatable
@@YolanCohenPoker tnx
Ur broke and need a better day job
thanks again. At 37:38 you tupes *wb scenario. What does WB mean?
Way behind* in term of EV :)
great video, friendly opinion, nobody wants to see Charly carrel freeze face here, you could use the full space to share your webcam and the video would be nicer imo.
Unless he shows us charts, it's still up in the air
His skill level definitely should be able to crush this small stakes.
He was competing with Linus love and doing well in battle, I'm sure he can crush these stakes.
I believe Yolan Cohen really crushing at nl200!
I believe you are the best youtube poker player/coach in the world, i know this may not mean much to you. But i never say this about anyone in regards to their field. Your grasp of NLHE is staggering. These videos are worth there weight in gold. I truly appreciate your kindess. You mentioned u would take on students. I use to crush 1kNL on fulltilt from 2006-2010, 100-200 live and won millions in MTTs. I got burned out and quit to start some businesses and work on investmenting in stocks and options. I have picked the game up again and in love with poker again. If u see this and are interested in coaching me for $ or if your interested trading services. Leg me know thankz. God speed
Deeply appreciate your comment man. You look like to have an interesting and singular path. Do you have discord or telegram ?
@@YolanCohenPoker i have discord, but am pretty ignorant on it. But i can work it out. What u have in mind?
@@Alexandertygreat I would like to continue the discussion further. Have specific questions toward transitioning. Add me on discord @yolancohen
@@YolanCohenPoker sounds good, i will add you when i get back to my home office tonight or tomorrow. Cheers
The quick answer is no.
He is heavily beating 100nl for sure I think :)
Nice
Please can you speak English in your next video thanks
I don't ? 🤣
@@YolanCohenPoker just trolling. I enjoy your vids :)
why you dont upload new video anymoew?
Many reasons, but i will upload soon don’t worry :)
On GG they take rake preflop when you 3bet. Does this help swing KQ, ATo into calls? I find that 3 betting them gets me reverse dominated when I play a big pot.
For reasons i explained in game, if you assume calling is great, it means the pool has deviations in other lines
If they deviate there is a high probability they are deviating in the 3b line. So i dont expect calling to be higher in ev compared to 3b. Even if I think calling is better than folding if youre skilled and you have Kqo here.
Also I think you need to see the big pictures, and you gain money by people folding vs cb, and also folding Preflop.
I can bet a significant amount of money here that 3bet makes more money than the call. If you assume you're not super bad in 3B pot and a grand master in flatting the sb. Cause your skill directly impact the EV of your hand too.
when the sb call its to bring the fish(bb) to the action the EV of the call can
be better
gneugneu fuck GTO gneugneugneugneugneu
Mate that first concept, on the evolution of EV is fucking brilliant. Unreal stuff. I am 2 minutes in and already loving it.
Where did you hear about this concept or did you come up with this yourself?
All these concepts are mine sir.
Sometimes it pops randomly out of my head when I'm walking, sometimes it requires a paper and a pen for many hours , like EVGD.
boaring video
For most people I need to do videos with 300 cuts and super dynamics. But i just don’t want to.
Im fine if for some peoples there are a bit « boring ».
your face is boring
@@xImSaf You enforce my tolerance toward criticism. So thank you for that.
Life taught me comments like this are made most of the time by unhappy people , so i really wish you to live a fulfilling life.
I think ,that is a great video!
Great analysis from a well spoken and smart man ,i can see from miles ahead that he is studying and understand the game so so well especially for that age!
Keep going my man ,you are doing excellent work
speak plain english if you want ppl to watch the video.. "evolve" dafuq
This is an english word buddy
@@YolanCohenPoker evOlVe
@@YolanCohenPoker ignore such comments Yolan, your English is good to understand. Great video, thanks for spending time to record it.
I come here to watch good poker, not to listen to a native speaker. wtf