I miss the ir blaster to control my tv and and other media devices with my s5 I never bothered looking for my tv remote I sat down and used my phone life was simple then.
Sorry this might be a rant, and not to be too contrarian, but LG Wing's demise is not a flaw of the T-shape design, rather the flaw with the smartphone industry mindset. The ability to hold a phone so that Content is available in LANDSCAPE while simultaneously having an infinitely customizable INPUT SECTION (bottom squarish screen) meant you could do on this phone you couldn't do on any other phone. Were there an enthusiastic push on software side to maximize the utility of its unique form factor, that phone could've single-handedly saved LG's phone division, at the very least, for a few more years. But when you had giant social media apps which were reluctant on using Camera API on Android side for years until the controversy got traction, you already know the app developers won't give 2 flying fracks about a single phone, regardless of how revolutionary it could've been. Look at S-Pen versus Apple Pencil. Despite being years ahead, the S-Pen community is still crawling, while Apple Pencil already have become gold standard for digital artists in the industry.
It was a shame they didn't fully optimise it, a Wing 2 would've really been nice to have. I remember having issues using the trackpad and no integrated gamepad, and generally the hardware being laggy long-term because they stuck it all on a midrange phone instead of flagship hardware. Trading out the pop up camera for just integrating one on the top bezel would've been nice too because I had my pop-up break
Exactly. A brilliant phone and revolutionary and if this design was released by Apple or Samsung it would be a smash hit. LG just doesn't have the marketing to promote their awesome phones.
Nice compilation! Anomaly: 3.5mm never failed, but removed nonetheless. It's however good to see some newer devices revive it for a very specific purpose: Music.
@killerinfo Yes, LG was best of the bunch with 3.5mm jack. Sony to has retained the jack, but the phone themselves are difficult to source and there's no official support in many countries. To spice things up, Moondrop is here.
I do wonder whether we'll see a manufacturer start bringing out phones with 3.5mm jacks and better internal DACs as a USP, maybe along with some IEMs or even a bluetooth DAC. That kind of hardware has become so cheap these days, and it's a really noticeable improvement over regular bluetooth earbuds.
Just having a 3.5mm jack is not enough, though. When I moved from my HTC 10 with a 10bit dedicated DAC to the Oneplus 6 with the shitty Qualcomm SoC DAC, I stopped listening to music on my phone entirely within a week. I just couldn't stand the downgrade.
@darjanator You're right. It seems like some new players are trying to address this very issue. Moondrop has recently announced a smartphone with balanced output and 'dual-dac' (not sure what that is). Nonetheless, good to see an effort in right direction, however niche it may be. Edit: Back in 2018, I bought Galaxy S9 (which I still use today as a cheap DAP), where I had the choice of Exynos and Qualcomm. I went with the bullock cart of flagship processors, Exynos, primarily for its Cirrus Logic DAC.
And if I recall correctly, we were using that phone, when we switched to iPhones. I was the C crew supervisor and our company phones were Blackberry at first. And that model was the last one our company issued, before switching to the iPhone. The iPhone was definitely quicker and smoother, but I missed that Blackberry... 😂 But switching to the iPhone got me started on swipe to text, which I use to this day. And switching from that Blackberry is what got me started in my UA-cam channel so long ago. Sorry for the long comment.
I went as far as sending my Priv overseas trying to get someone to add memory and extend the life of mine... but too bad BlackBerry's horrendous software support still killed it. If someone builds another slider QWERTY with a decent midrange spec, I will buy it in an instant
@3d touch measures the pressure of the touch and acts accordingly, haptic touch just vibrates depending on how long you press something, its also why you feel a lil vibration on certain apps when you press a button
Soon enough. The EU thingy has mandated smartphones manufacturers to make removable battery a thing again by.. i dont remember the the date. It'll be removable & water resistant. Coldfusion (channel UA-cam) has made a video about it. Its also why iphone finally uses a usb-c for standardization. Sorry for my bad english
The lsingle largest factor why they do not… NSA would not be happy. The only single way to entirely disconnect any smartphone is to remove the battery. No joke - the NSA plays a type of game with phone manufacturers. They will offer any phone manufacturer that sells devices in america; either a type of money payment or also a type of greatly reduced tax rate. If those two items don’t work, they’ll find a way to get the device effectively excluded from american sales. Btw, the NSA actually has Apple iPhone 16 devices for a majority of their employees. They have reduced functionality for apps and functions (and even electronically block scan and photo functions on property). But they also have hardware features, such as a dedicated off feature that is a type of battery disconnect.
Iris scanning on Samsung phones was released way before it was ready for the market, it was more or less a half-baked implementation when it was released. It would've worked better now since front facing and IR cameras have high enough resolution to work at appropriate viewing distance from users.
The tech wasn't ready yet. Apple later perfected it but scans the whole face instead using improved tech. Samsung had the right idea and should have developed it further but now with only a hole on the front screen there's no way to implement a scanner.
I was disappointed that motorized selfie cameras did not stick around. No punch hole/Dynamic Island, just an uninterrupted display. Plus, it felt super futuristic. I also wish qwerty slider smartphones like the Droid 1-4 stuck around!
It's sad that nowadays everything is the same every year, sure some phones had gimmicky features but it was always fun to see them and maybe some people did actually use those features.
@@Unknown-64209 as i mentioned in my other comment, it is one of the reasons I still stick to my mi9t pro. 5 years on the clock, still a very decent device.
I'm still rocking my LG Wing, I don't care about any of the downsides all that much anymore, they used to be dealbreakers but I came to embrace the fact they aren't (like the 60hz screens, the mediocre battery life, the mid range processor) which are actual downsides, but not enough to turn down the cool af phone itself
I remembered one other interesting tech phone, the projectors, while the Moto Z series had a external projector, for example: -Galaxy Beam -Blackview Max 1 Those had internal projectors, and they were amazing phones, sad that it was hard to do them. And overshadowed by screen mirroning, samsung DeX etc...
Moto had the best implementation of add on features but not enough customers buy them so Moto stopped making them. The problem is people upgrade their phones so often it doesn't make sense to buy add ons you'll throw away.
Same! Also, being a pop-up does not downgrade the image quality, so it's a perfectly good solution. Ever since I have the S23, I usually flip the phone around anyways to take a selfie with the ultrawide (ALWAYS in frame) or the main cam, since the main camera is always a MUCH better sensor than any front-facing cam. For this reason, I also miss the small mirror next to the camera, like the old "pre-smart" phones had. It would make a separate selfie camera completely unnecessary, since you could compose a selfie with the help of the mirror and in exchange you'd have a better quality photo than with a regular selfie camera.
LG V50's Dual Screen case and LG Wing user here. I bought the V50 with its Dual Screen case after I sold my old Galaxy Fold foldable screen phone. Needless to say, dual display is WAY more practical than foldable screen. Unlike foldable screen phone, I can easily use ANY apps I want on either screen without having to worry about apps that doesn't support screen splitting like Netflix and NHK-WORLD JAPAN. That is something I can never do with my old foldable screen phone. As for the Wing, man... it's FAR from a "gimmick"! The built-in gimbal camera is an absolute blast! Despite only limited to 1080p/30fps video recording, it's so good that my Zhiyun gimbal stabilizer starts dusting in the drawer. As for the swivel screen, it serves the same function as Dual Screen case by letting me use ANY apps I want on either screen without having to worry about apps that don't support screen splitting. In fact, the built-in secondary screen works better than any foldable flip phone's outer screen.
A great innovation in its time but the hub is built into every phone now. iOS and Android has an even better hub. BlackBerry was legendary and everyone wanted one back in the day. Sad to see they're gone.
Pop up cameras were such an amazing thing, I am currently writing from my Xiaomi Mi9t Pro. It's still a good phone and had only a battery replacement due to its age. The full display with no camera hole was one of the main reasons I bought it back in 2019, also it was considerably cheaper compared to other phones with the same Snapdragon 855, mine was only 380 euros at the time of purchase for the 6/128 version
They were great and surprised it didn't take off as it seems like the perfect solution. Because let's be honest how often do people take selfies? Great to see your phone is still holding up.
@@jonfreeman9682 well maybe not for girls but I for sure fit in what you have said, I rarely use the front camera🤣. And yes the phone is totally fine even today, I don't see a reason to change it
@@AeiKei Haha you're enjoying the mythical perfect screen. No holes no notch. It'll be awhile before they figure out how to make under screen camera. Xiaomi makes good phones.
@@jonfreeman9682 indeed seems like Xiaomi doesn't want to invest towards this, if I had to choose at this point I would stick with the Red Magic 10 Pro but it has its flaws in terms of the selfie camera
I used to use a Windows phone, the 1020, with a 41 MP camera sensor. It came with a camera grip/extended battery. The camera grip made one end of the phone extra chunky so it could be held comfortably and confidently in the right hand. It had a dedicated shutter button and also had a small capacity extended battery built in.
A great phone and the best camera back in the day. But they were too late to the party. Windows Mobile was there before iPhone and Android but they didn't really put focus on improving it until it was too late. Buying Nokia gave them the hardware edge and the camera was best in class but they were just too late. And that camera grip btw was ridiculous. I had one and couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
The LG Wing was very practical! No need to pause a YT video to answer a message or quickly google something. I loved mine but sadly LG made it unusable with the latest Android update before they left the smartphone market
9:35. NOTHING is impossible to hack and claiming that something is “unhackable” or “zero vulnerabilities” likely just drives a hacker to get in quicker.
@@sarcasticmcspastic The Xbox one/ series consoles were just hacked recently. Look online you can probably find more information abt it. It was patched pretty quick tho.
4:50 the number scrambling is still an option in the settings 7:50 your phone camera on every phone can do this with an app and it's surprisingly accurate and there were few other not so obsolete features you mentioned
The Blackberry Priv's keyboard is still my favorite hardware feature to have ever used. Having the whole screen available when typing was great, and the keyboard was excellently designed and great to type on. Working as a trackpad for scrolling and a quick launcher were nice features too, but as you mentioned in the video the chip was suboptimal and prone to overheating, and I still don't understand why the camera was looking through plastic. I waited for so long hoping they would make a Priv 2 with TCL, but it never happened.
A legendary phone that finally got all the design elements right. Perfect keyboard with touch built in and full screen and Android so it solves the app problem. It should have saved BlackBerry but customers long bailed. The sales weren't there to support a second model. The key 1 and 2 are great keyboard phones without a slider and there was talks of a sequel but John Chen sold the mobile patents and cancelled all licensing deals. So that's the end of the keyboard era. The only company I know that makes keyboards still is Unihertz and it's not bad as a BlackBerry clone.
The coolest feature on a phone that I've ever seen was the camera on the Asus Zenphone 6. The camera flipped up to become a selfie cam, so pictures taken with the front facing camera configuration were just as good as the ones with the rear camera configuration! That and the IR blaster.
Blackberry Priv will forever be in my heart. If any major phone manufacturer decided to release another phone like Priv WITHOUT the processor issue, will buy it in a heartbeat. It’s such a shame Priv released with 808 and all of its issues
The problem with microSD cards is software-based as well as hardware now, a lot of apps just aren't designed to read SD cards and they tend to be pretty slow in comparison. What we *really* need is phones that can take those tiny postage-stamp SSDs, they're great.
@@estherstreet4582 I mean microSD is just nice because you can store photos, music, videos, etc on it. I've kept the same microsd throughout all my phones from 2016 til now and building on the memories, was bummed out my latest phone didn't support microsd
On modular ones, my favourite implementation was the Essential PH-1. It was magnetic, the mods were powered by two pins, and the data was a custom near field wireless USB. It's the implementation I think we could see come back in one form or another at some point. I could see a future version of Qi, Magsafe, or USB trying to combine wireless charging with direct metal to metal connection to avoid the heat of inductive charging
The LG Wing was awesome, the same is true for LG's dual screen cases for the G8 and V60 and this I wish would make a comeback. Getting a 2nd screen as an add-on in a case was always a cool idea.
I really liked the cases that some HTC phones had, they were flip cases and let you dial with the cover on. Those were super neat, wish they'd come back. Cheers.
I’m personally most intrigued by the modular accessories and Blackberry’s picture password. I remember seeing a recent Xiaomi flagship (14 ultra?) having an optional case that adds extra battery and camera controls, which I find really cool
My personal wish apart from bringing back the headphone jack... Is 16:9 phones. Bring back 16:9. Why did we all decide these weird ultra tall ratios were the ideal? Also I agree with keyboard sliders. The original Motorola Droid keyboard was so nice to use.
The Sony Xperia Z2 had a magnetic charging port on the outside of the phone, much like you would find on a smart watch. It used a proprietary cable or dock to charge the phone. It was meant to keep down wear and tear on the waterproofed door that hid the USB port. One of the earlier waterproof phones. Were there other phones with a dedicated magnetic charging port? It was far more convenient than having to sneak a tiny Micro USB plug into place every time you wanted to charge your phone.
I wish you would do a video about using older flagship phones and the risk of using phones that no longer receives security patches. How old is too old. Is there security aps that can be used in place of updates?
I have the LG Velvet and that one also came with a dual screen case. It is amazing and way better than foldables imo if you consider the price and durability(and longevity since the phone is usable separately incase the base fails). Amazing for multitasking and emulation, I just wish we get this again in the future.
CMF phone 1 is quasi modular, in the sense that the modules dont add any hardware, but are mostly cosmetic. HMD (ex-nokia) did recently release the fusion, a lower end smartphone with actual pogo pins for real modularity. However the modules are a lot more modest than what LG and Motorola attempted (though the schematics were made open source)
I miss LG. They did some really weird designs but they were at least willing to try something new. I remember getting to fix an LG Wing back when there were no guides. It was a very slow disassembly.
The LG Wing is neat, I would want one if LG still supported it. Motorized cameras are also neat, but I can see why they'd be prone to failure, given motors and gears needed to operate them. Maybe a similar concept could be done with a manual slider that pushes the camera out.
I've been using my Wing for two years now, and not a single component has broken. Everything still works despite me accidentally dropping it several times.
What about the phones with extra screens on the back, like the YotaPhone, Nubia Z20 and Meizu Pro 7? It's such an amazing concept to have a viewfinder to take selfies with the main camera.
Iris Scanner was so good, although a tad bit slower than current fingerprint scanners, which I personally didn't mind. I'm shook they just got rid of it altogether, even if it was for thinner bezels
Blackberry Privs are hands down the most Handsome phone ever created. Curved screen, sliding keyboard, carbon fiber back, and the proportion is just perfect.
My favourite phone ever is the Nokia N95, similar to the blackberry it had the slide out keyboard which helps with the packaging. It was such a robust phone for the time
I'm surprised the 3D screens from LG, Motorola and Red weren't included here. I was hyped when LG announced theirs back then but I couldn't afford that phone.
The Heart Rate feature is present basically in every smart phone on the market. You just need a light next to the camera and an app to utilize it. My iPhone 14 Pro does it without issues using the Cardiio app. I’ve cross checked it with my heart rate strap I’ll use while handbiking
Truly an amazing phone. It was the phone before iPhone and Android and really should have taken off as all the right ideas were there. HP bought them but did nothing with it and just buried it.
@jonfreeman9682 I had the original with the magnetic charger. I loved that thing. So ahead of it's time. Apple and Google took inspiration from them for sure.
the camera modules atm making a comeback, Xiaomi Photography Kit. Honor is making currently a lens kit that fits to the camera bump too. & many more phones like vivo but they pretty much made & sold from 3rd party brands & not inhouse
Modular smartphone is a crazy cool concept if only they experimented more and came up with a practical solution the whole industry would have looked different
It's cool in concept but it won't work for 3 reasons. One it takes up space for modular design rather than one contiguous sealed device. Two not enough demand for modular add ons. Finally people change their phones every year or two so the add ons become useless in your next phone so it's just wasted money. The concept is cool but the demand isn't there.
5:20 Samsung didn't have the first iris scanner. The Lumia 950 and 950XL had one nearly a year before the Galaxy Note 7 was released. I still have one sitting around, and it still works perfectly despite being just shy of a decade old.
My 1st Android phone, a Motorola Photon 4G, had a sturdy metal kickstand for viewing in landscape mode on a table and such, but using the kickstand in the intended orientation put the charging port at the bottom. Fortunately the spring in the kickstand mechanism is strong enough that you could flip the phone 180 and the kickstand would still prop the phone up, although at a different angle. I personally never used the phone that way. I still have that phone and it still works but the volume up/down plastic button fell out and I never found it.
Motorola with moto mods was a really cool take on adding modularity and capabilities to phones, the LG wing was sci-fi awesome, but then not all fantastic ideas catch on.
Had an LG Wing. Loved it till I got fed up repairing it. Before that, a ZTE Axon M. A two screen phone before two screen phones were cool. And before before that, a Microsoft Lumia 950 XL. A phone that had iris scanning before Samsung did.
@@jonfreeman9682 It actually had nothing to do with the rotation mechanics at all. I had replaced the battery because it started bulging abnormally (i.e. faster than a normal Li-Ion should). And then I replaced the back panel because it shattered. I learned then that glass is glass, and glass can break.
@@doq You're right glass is vulnerable but it's the preferred material in all premium phones. So a case is a must. iPhone and Samsung use full glass but Pixel and budget brands don't have this issue.
Another now-dead weird form factor: the Asus PadFone, which docked your phone into a tablet. And as you mentioned with the Moto X modules, phones with projectors built in were attempted in the early days too.
One of my favorite designs has to be the physical QWERTY keyboard that Blackberry phones had. Having a physical keyboard on an Android device is very interesting. I would like to see it come back.
I know xiaomi uses the underscreen fingerprint sensor for heart-rate sensing, and you can also use different fingers to open different "spaces", albeit less smoothly than the anomphone, since it has to load a totally different environment
I wish they can bring back LG, I still have my LG velvet and v60 still running good for backup phone, I love their design and cameras, The only thing they should do make the refresh rate 120 Hz.
I'll never forget that blackberry with the sliding keyboard. My boss had one and I was close to getting one too until they announced they were stopping support for it a couple of months after the launch. I've never been so "sad" for a piece of tech, I really think they're was something they're. It was not even that thick, it just lacked the software support. Someone really needs to come and disrupt the smartphone market and make them like PC, or at least Google should make the manufacturers open source their drivers after support has ended so they can be incorporated into AOSP.
Hugh. I wonder if your itest can support android head unit for the car. I have tried on the android head unit. However, for a weird reason, information immediately shows for a split second, and it disappear.
I miss the ir blaster to control my tv and and other media devices with my s5 I never bothered looking for my tv remote I sat down and used my phone life was simple then.
OnePlus still gottem
You can still get the IR blaster on many BBK. & Xiaomi phones
My Xiaomi 14 has it despite not being visible
Love it on my Poco F3.
@@thdevill1it's inside the camera module of the Xiaomi 14 which is a good change honestly.
I still love my LG Wing
Also a little note at 8:40
The Note 3 which came out a few months before the S5, had that micro USB 3.0 feature.
i remember these phone they were so shocked when they realise normal micro usb works as well
aye, i have one too. Kinda wish LG's phone division stayed on top of that, maybe it would still be getting updates.
Yeah ... I have on that phone 😂😂
Yep, man I loved my Note 3, good ol' memories.
Your Wing didn't break? That hinge looks so jank and fragile.
9:07 the Galaxy Note 3 also has that
Also the galaxy round
Yep. I had the Note 3
Many Korea only versions of Samsung phones did too.
You forgot the Note's 7 explosive battery feature! Such an innovative idea lol
And the iPhone 6 being the first to explore the foldable form factor
Was a very good burner phone...
A phone AND a grenade?? Perfect James bond gadget
Gotta love that Grand Theft Auto 5 mod that turns grenades into Note 7s.
@@Samsonfs😂😂
Sorry this might be a rant, and not to be too contrarian, but LG Wing's demise is not a flaw of the T-shape design, rather the flaw with the smartphone industry mindset. The ability to hold a phone so that Content is available in LANDSCAPE while simultaneously having an infinitely customizable INPUT SECTION (bottom squarish screen) meant you could do on this phone you couldn't do on any other phone. Were there an enthusiastic push on software side to maximize the utility of its unique form factor, that phone could've single-handedly saved LG's phone division, at the very least, for a few more years. But when you had giant social media apps which were reluctant on using Camera API on Android side for years until the controversy got traction, you already know the app developers won't give 2 flying fracks about a single phone, regardless of how revolutionary it could've been. Look at S-Pen versus Apple Pencil. Despite being years ahead, the S-Pen community is still crawling, while Apple Pencil already have become gold standard for digital artists in the industry.
Well said honestly. I have nothing to add, just well said.
@@NamanArusia agree with you and want to add that the majority of developers don't even think about using a feature if it's not in an iphone
Yeah LG Wing was released long after LG executives knew they were shutting down. The idea that the LG wind killed LG is silly
It was a shame they didn't fully optimise it, a Wing 2 would've really been nice to have. I remember having issues using the trackpad and no integrated gamepad, and generally the hardware being laggy long-term because they stuck it all on a midrange phone instead of flagship hardware. Trading out the pop up camera for just integrating one on the top bezel would've been nice too because I had my pop-up break
Exactly. A brilliant phone and revolutionary and if this design was released by Apple or Samsung it would be a smash hit. LG just doesn't have the marketing to promote their awesome phones.
For lockscreen, LG's knock code was the best specialty when fingerprint sensor was not a thing in smartphones yet.
Nice compilation!
Anomaly: 3.5mm never failed, but removed nonetheless. It's however good to see some newer devices revive it for a very specific purpose: Music.
Removed cause Apple, and everyone else HAD to follow
@killerinfo Yes, LG was best of the bunch with 3.5mm jack. Sony to has retained the jack, but the phone themselves are difficult to source and there's no official support in many countries. To spice things up, Moondrop is here.
I do wonder whether we'll see a manufacturer start bringing out phones with 3.5mm jacks and better internal DACs as a USP, maybe along with some IEMs or even a bluetooth DAC. That kind of hardware has become so cheap these days, and it's a really noticeable improvement over regular bluetooth earbuds.
Just having a 3.5mm jack is not enough, though. When I moved from my HTC 10 with a 10bit dedicated DAC to the Oneplus 6 with the shitty Qualcomm SoC DAC, I stopped listening to music on my phone entirely within a week. I just couldn't stand the downgrade.
@darjanator You're right. It seems like some new players are trying to address this very issue. Moondrop has recently announced a smartphone with balanced output and 'dual-dac' (not sure what that is). Nonetheless, good to see an effort in right direction, however niche it may be.
Edit: Back in 2018, I bought Galaxy S9 (which I still use today as a cheap DAP), where I had the choice of Exynos and Qualcomm. I went with the bullock cart of flagship processors, Exynos, primarily for its Cirrus Logic DAC.
I absolutely loved the Blackberry Slider. I really wish they would have had better software and cameras for it. I would still use that phone today.
And if I recall correctly, we were using that phone, when we switched to iPhones. I was the C crew supervisor and our company phones were Blackberry at first. And that model was the last one our company issued, before switching to the iPhone. The iPhone was definitely quicker and smoother, but I missed that Blackberry... 😂 But switching to the iPhone got me started on swipe to text, which I use to this day. And switching from that Blackberry is what got me started in my UA-cam channel so long ago. Sorry for the long comment.
What about custom os?
@THECAR99
Thats a good idea, if someone actually makes a custom ROM for it. I never really looked into that..
It was truly brilliant and the best of both worlds. It should have been a smash hit and saved BlackBerry but not sure why fans didn't take.
I went as far as sending my Priv overseas trying to get someone to add memory and extend the life of mine... but too bad BlackBerry's horrendous software support still killed it.
If someone builds another slider QWERTY with a decent midrange spec, I will buy it in an instant
3D Touch is missing from this list. Apple removed it in favor of Haptic Touch
That is such an insignificant feature compared to all of these lol
What's the difference between these 2? Please explain 🙏🏻
yeah. worst decision made by apple ever
One of the Biggest downgrade in the smartphone industry after the removal of headphone jack and SD cards
@3d touch measures the pressure of the touch and acts accordingly, haptic touch just vibrates depending on how long you press something, its also why you feel a lil vibration on certain apps when you press a button
I wish they would bring back the removable battery
Keep buying new phones when they break
@Splarkszter
What
Soon enough. The EU thingy has mandated smartphones manufacturers to make removable battery a thing again by.. i dont remember the the date. It'll be removable & water resistant. Coldfusion (channel UA-cam) has made a video about it. Its also why iphone finally uses a usb-c for standardization. Sorry for my bad english
The lsingle largest factor why they do not…
NSA would not be happy. The only single way to entirely disconnect any smartphone is to remove the battery. No joke - the NSA plays a type of game with phone manufacturers. They will offer any phone manufacturer that sells devices in america; either a type of money payment or also a type of greatly reduced tax rate. If those two items don’t work, they’ll find a way to get the device effectively excluded from american sales.
Btw, the NSA actually has Apple iPhone 16 devices for a majority of their employees. They have reduced functionality for apps and functions (and even electronically block scan and photo functions on property). But they also have hardware features, such as a dedicated off feature that is a type of battery disconnect.
@@unmeaninglessly143the eu made them use a unreliable port that is subject to physical damage requiring replacement faster than lightning ports
Iris scanning on Samsung phones was released way before it was ready for the market, it was more or less a half-baked implementation when it was released.
It would've worked better now since front facing and IR cameras have high enough resolution to work at appropriate viewing distance from users.
Sasmung stole the feature from Microsoft, whcih released it on lumia 950/XL. As well as continuum (which they called “dex”)
The tech wasn't ready yet. Apple later perfected it but scans the whole face instead using improved tech. Samsung had the right idea and should have developed it further but now with only a hole on the front screen there's no way to implement a scanner.
I was so excited when I saw the LG wing. Exactly what I needed, fullscreen films and messenger at the same time.
But nobody bought the phone. It was revolutionary and cool but the sales weren't there.
@@jonfreeman9682But what to expect when it has limited region availability.
I was disappointed that motorized selfie cameras did not stick around. No punch hole/Dynamic Island, just an uninterrupted display. Plus, it felt super futuristic. I also wish qwerty slider smartphones like the Droid 1-4 stuck around!
Absolutely! I'd choose them over the silly flip/folding phones
And far safer. Your front camera spies in you all the time.
The Note3 series of phones from Samsung used USB 3 connectors as well. Just FYI.
It's sad that nowadays everything is the same every year, sure some phones had gimmicky features but it was always fun to see them and maybe some people did actually use those features.
That's because customers don't want anything new. LG and BlackBerry and Nokia Windows phone brought something different but nobody wants it.
8:46 note 3 also had microusb 3
I did not know why the pop-up camera did not take off but the pop- up camera was so different
my best guess would be dust ingression
@@playerzkingmuch more simple - the cost. Only then everything else. Plus, it is much harder to make it waterproof.
Also it gave a sense of privacy.
@@djnjoy Yup. Cost 100%. An extra motor with precise engineering and all the extra parts vs a notch.
@@Unknown-64209 as i mentioned in my other comment, it is one of the reasons I still stick to my mi9t pro. 5 years on the clock, still a very decent device.
the heart rate sensor also allowed blood oxygen and stress level monitoring, it was excellent for me. I had an s10
Wait till apple buys the leftovers of the iris scan from Samsung and all the fans cheer it into mainstream
I promise you lil bro, we do not care
Bro I love the iris scanner
I promise your wrong @@lorddeecee
Yes
I promise you lil sis we don't care about your comment@@lorddeecee
So sad the pop up camera didn't take off. I loved the seamless display of my phone when I had one
Correction on 2:48 it also supported the LG Velvet. I actually owned one with the dual screen case
I'm still rocking my LG Wing, I don't care about any of the downsides all that much anymore, they used to be dealbreakers but I came to embrace the fact they aren't (like the 60hz screens, the mediocre battery life, the mid range processor) which are actual downsides, but not enough to turn down the cool af phone itself
I remembered one other interesting tech phone, the projectors, while the Moto Z series had a external projector, for example:
-Galaxy Beam
-Blackview Max 1
Those had internal projectors, and they were amazing phones, sad that it was hard to do them. And overshadowed by screen mirroning, samsung DeX etc...
I just want you to know google recently shut down support for Chromecast
Dude it's actually kindof a pain to get your phone onto the TV again
Moto had the best implementation of add on features but not enough customers buy them so Moto stopped making them. The problem is people upgrade their phones so often it doesn't make sense to buy add ons you'll throw away.
The other reason why it's discontinued is that projectors, even the smallest one, uses a lot of power which drains the battery faster
I had the LG G5, aside from severe ghost screen it was such a unique phone. Used it for years. Sad to see LG give up on the smartphone market
Wish pop up cameras would still be a thing, I barely take any selfies
Same! Also, being a pop-up does not downgrade the image quality, so it's a perfectly good solution. Ever since I have the S23, I usually flip the phone around anyways to take a selfie with the ultrawide (ALWAYS in frame) or the main cam, since the main camera is always a MUCH better sensor than any front-facing cam. For this reason, I also miss the small mirror next to the camera, like the old "pre-smart" phones had. It would make a separate selfie camera completely unnecessary, since you could compose a selfie with the help of the mirror and in exchange you'd have a better quality photo than with a regular selfie camera.
Same here, wish they kept it since a bezel-less phone with no hole punch is impossible to find nowadays
@@pixels_per_inch Take a look at the Zenfone 7 Pro and Zenfone 8 Flip ;)
I'm still using an Oppo Reno 10x Zoom. Something oddly satisfying every time the front camera pops up.
Really love that sharkfin design Oppo used for the popup cam
LG V50's Dual Screen case and LG Wing user here. I bought the V50 with its Dual Screen case after I sold my old Galaxy Fold foldable screen phone. Needless to say, dual display is WAY more practical than foldable screen. Unlike foldable screen phone, I can easily use ANY apps I want on either screen without having to worry about apps that doesn't support screen splitting like Netflix and NHK-WORLD JAPAN. That is something I can never do with my old foldable screen phone.
As for the Wing, man... it's FAR from a "gimmick"! The built-in gimbal camera is an absolute blast! Despite only limited to 1080p/30fps video recording, it's so good that my Zhiyun gimbal stabilizer starts dusting in the drawer. As for the swivel screen, it serves the same function as Dual Screen case by letting me use ANY apps I want on either screen without having to worry about apps that don't support screen splitting. In fact, the built-in secondary screen works better than any foldable flip phone's outer screen.
No OS has anything comparable to the BlackBerry hub. Biggest missing feature from phones today.
A great innovation in its time but the hub is built into every phone now. iOS and Android has an even better hub. BlackBerry was legendary and everyone wanted one back in the day. Sad to see they're gone.
I still use that on my Pixel 7 Pro 👍it's free on Blackberry devices, I had a Keyone before the Pixel, and about a dollar a month on other devices.
This video is for people who always say, "why can't phones be unique or fun like back in the day"
I absolutely love your videos. I’ve seen a lot of phones with some unique features. Keep up the great work.😊
Pop up cameras were such an amazing thing, I am currently writing from my Xiaomi Mi9t Pro. It's still a good phone and had only a battery replacement due to its age. The full display with no camera hole was one of the main reasons I bought it back in 2019, also it was considerably cheaper compared to other phones with the same Snapdragon 855, mine was only 380 euros at the time of purchase for the 6/128 version
Pop-up cameras seem really good for privacy concerns. Is the camera secretly recording? Obviously not, it's inside the phone.
They were great and surprised it didn't take off as it seems like the perfect solution. Because let's be honest how often do people take selfies? Great to see your phone is still holding up.
@@jonfreeman9682 well maybe not for girls but I for sure fit in what you have said, I rarely use the front camera🤣. And yes the phone is totally fine even today, I don't see a reason to change it
@@AeiKei Haha you're enjoying the mythical perfect screen. No holes no notch. It'll be awhile before they figure out how to make under screen camera. Xiaomi makes good phones.
@@jonfreeman9682 indeed seems like Xiaomi doesn't want to invest towards this, if I had to choose at this point I would stick with the Red Magic 10 Pro but it has its flaws in terms of the selfie camera
I used to use a Windows phone, the 1020, with a 41 MP camera sensor. It came with a camera grip/extended battery. The camera grip made one end of the phone extra chunky so it could be held comfortably and confidently in the right hand. It had a dedicated shutter button and also had a small capacity extended battery built in.
A great phone and the best camera back in the day. But they were too late to the party. Windows Mobile was there before iPhone and Android but they didn't really put focus on improving it until it was too late. Buying Nokia gave them the hardware edge and the camera was best in class but they were just too late. And that camera grip btw was ridiculous. I had one and couldn't get rid of it fast enough.
Edge to edge on an iPhone 5 shell, running Android with a removal battery + headphone jack is my dream phone.
IP68
Just get the Samsung A55 or nothing phone 2A
@Retronyx Those aren't small phones though.
Great video and content as usual Hugh. I loved my LG G5. The removable battery and camera mount was brilliant for me.
And that's the problem. That was the only two useful features. And even the camera add on was questionable.
I just want the pop-up camera back, the og Find X is really one of the most beautiful phones I've ever seen, I still wish I could buy one!!😍
The LG Wing was very practical! No need to pause a YT video to answer a message or quickly google something. I loved mine but sadly LG made it unusable with the latest Android update before they left the smartphone market
Your videos are still awesome. i am always counting down the days until the next upload
9:35. NOTHING is impossible to hack and claiming that something is “unhackable” or “zero vulnerabilities” likely just drives a hacker to get in quicker.
Alright but the xbox one exists
Xbox one
@@sarcasticmcspastic The Xbox one/ series consoles were just hacked recently. Look online you can probably find more information abt it. It was patched pretty quick tho.
@@sarcasticmcspastic yt keeps deleting my comment, but it’s been done look online. Was patched quickly tho. Xb1/series consoles both.
Yay you posted. I love your videos!
4:50 the number scrambling is still an option in the settings
7:50 your phone camera on every phone can do this with an app and it's surprisingly accurate
and there were few other not so obsolete features you mentioned
Love the video man!
And now we are to the point where it is shocking Apple hasn't charged us a monthly subscription for using things like the camera or touch screen
You forgot the Samsung A80. you can use back camera as a selfie camera. Also project ara phone.
The Blackberry Priv's keyboard is still my favorite hardware feature to have ever used. Having the whole screen available when typing was great, and the keyboard was excellently designed and great to type on. Working as a trackpad for scrolling and a quick launcher were nice features too, but as you mentioned in the video the chip was suboptimal and prone to overheating, and I still don't understand why the camera was looking through plastic. I waited for so long hoping they would make a Priv 2 with TCL, but it never happened.
A legendary phone that finally got all the design elements right. Perfect keyboard with touch built in and full screen and Android so it solves the app problem. It should have saved BlackBerry but customers long bailed. The sales weren't there to support a second model. The key 1 and 2 are great keyboard phones without a slider and there was talks of a sequel but John Chen sold the mobile patents and cancelled all licensing deals. So that's the end of the keyboard era. The only company I know that makes keyboards still is Unihertz and it's not bad as a BlackBerry clone.
Writing from a nubia with under display camera, I love it.
The coolest feature on a phone that I've ever seen was the camera on the Asus Zenphone 6. The camera flipped up to become a selfie cam, so pictures taken with the front facing camera configuration were just as good as the ones with the rear camera configuration! That and the IR blaster.
Blackberry Priv will forever be in my heart. If any major phone manufacturer decided to release another phone like Priv WITHOUT the processor issue, will buy it in a heartbeat. It’s such a shame Priv released with 808 and all of its issues
samsung Note 3 also had a 3.0 USB
A physical keyboard helps along with a micro SD slot for extra data storage.
The problem with microSD cards is software-based as well as hardware now, a lot of apps just aren't designed to read SD cards and they tend to be pretty slow in comparison.
What we *really* need is phones that can take those tiny postage-stamp SSDs, they're great.
@@estherstreet4582 I mean microSD is just nice because you can store photos, music, videos, etc on it. I've kept the same microsd throughout all my phones from 2016 til now and building on the memories, was bummed out my latest phone didn't support microsd
@@estherstreet4582 Didn't know about that until now, pretty cool.
1:04 of course Motorola has to name every product "Moto"
They missed the opportunity to name it "Rola"
On modular ones, my favourite implementation was the Essential PH-1. It was magnetic, the mods were powered by two pins, and the data was a custom near field wireless USB. It's the implementation I think we could see come back in one form or another at some point. I could see a future version of Qi, Magsafe, or USB trying to combine wireless charging with direct metal to metal connection to avoid the heat of inductive charging
Qi 2 would be great for integrating modules, with magnets and pins you can allow phones to grow and still be able to use the modules
The LG Wing was awesome, the same is true for LG's dual screen cases for the G8 and V60 and this I wish would make a comeback. Getting a 2nd screen as an add-on in a case was always a cool idea.
The randomized number pad for PIN codes is alive and well today. The knock code though isn't anymore. Used to love that with my LG.
Hugh What do u think of the Motorola razor 50 flip
I really liked the cases that some HTC phones had, they were flip cases and let you dial with the cover on. Those were super neat, wish they'd come back. Cheers.
Waiting for you to hit 1 million subscribers
I’m personally most intrigued by the modular accessories and Blackberry’s picture password. I remember seeing a recent Xiaomi flagship (14 ultra?) having an optional case that adds extra battery and camera controls, which I find really cool
My personal wish apart from bringing back the headphone jack... Is 16:9 phones. Bring back 16:9. Why did we all decide these weird ultra tall ratios were the ideal? Also I agree with keyboard sliders. The original Motorola Droid keyboard was so nice to use.
The Sony Xperia Z2 had a magnetic charging port on the outside of the phone, much like you would find on a smart watch. It used a proprietary cable or dock to charge the phone. It was meant to keep down wear and tear on the waterproofed door that hid the USB port. One of the earlier waterproof phones. Were there other phones with a dedicated magnetic charging port? It was far more convenient than having to sneak a tiny Micro USB plug into place every time you wanted to charge your phone.
I wish you would do a video about using older flagship phones and the risk of using phones that no longer receives security patches. How old is too old. Is there security aps that can be used in place of updates?
I have the LG Velvet and that one also came with a dual screen case. It is amazing and way better than foldables imo if you consider the price and durability(and longevity since the phone is usable separately incase the base fails). Amazing for multitasking and emulation, I just wish we get this again in the future.
LG Wing will be the most interesting phone of the 2020s.
LG also had a Guest Mode which was very subtle, you only needed to enter a different pin code and you could access to the allowed apps
CMF phone 1 is quasi modular, in the sense that the modules dont add any hardware, but are mostly cosmetic.
HMD (ex-nokia) did recently release the fusion, a lower end smartphone with actual pogo pins for real modularity. However the modules are a lot more modest than what LG and Motorola attempted (though the schematics were made open source)
I miss LG. They did some really weird designs but they were at least willing to try something new. I remember getting to fix an LG Wing back when there were no guides. It was a very slow disassembly.
The LG Wing is neat, I would want one if LG still supported it. Motorized cameras are also neat, but I can see why they'd be prone to failure, given motors and gears needed to operate them. Maybe a similar concept could be done with a manual slider that pushes the camera out.
I've been using my Wing for two years now, and not a single component has broken. Everything still works despite me accidentally dropping it several times.
What about the phones with extra screens on the back, like the YotaPhone, Nubia Z20 and Meizu Pro 7?
It's such an amazing concept to have a viewfinder to take selfies with the main camera.
Great concept but prone to breakage. It was very delicate.
7:49 I have a Xiaomi 14T Pro, and for some reason, deep into the phone options you can find a hearth rate monitor which uses the fingerprint scanner
Realme phones also have this option
2:00 Did you Forgot Asus ROG TwinView Dock? They.only support ROG Phone 1,2,3..
Iris Scanner was so good, although a tad bit slower than current fingerprint scanners, which I personally didn't mind. I'm shook they just got rid of it altogether, even if it was for thinner bezels
8:08 The flashlight pulse reader was actually in some Motorola phones if I remember correctly. I had a Moto G6 that could do that back in the day
I had it on symbian as a separate app.
I love my LG Wing, and wish there was a modern version of one (like a flagship SoC, more RAM & storage, and better cameras)
When I had a Sony Xperia SP I had 3 RGB LEDs under the phone changing color with the music, notifications, videos... I miss fun features like that !
Blackberry Privs are hands down the most Handsome phone ever created. Curved screen, sliding keyboard, carbon fiber back, and the proportion is just perfect.
Hi mate I enjoyed the video, can you please bring back your iPhone collection from 2017 as it was 1 of my favourite videos
The Phone with my favorite form factor to date was the Motorola Backflip. I still think it is one of the smartest designs ever.
My favourite phone ever is the Nokia N95, similar to the blackberry it had the slide out keyboard which helps with the packaging. It was such a robust phone for the time
I'm surprised the 3D screens from LG, Motorola and Red weren't included here. I was hyped when LG announced theirs back then but I couldn't afford that phone.
The LG v60 with the dual screen case was amazing!
The Heart Rate feature is present basically in every smart phone on the market.
You just need a light next to the camera and an app to utilize it.
My iPhone 14 Pro does it without issues using the Cardiio app.
I’ve cross checked it with my heart rate strap I’ll use while handbiking
Missed opportunity to talk about the Palm Pre. RIP. Great video though!
Truly an amazing phone. It was the phone before iPhone and Android and really should have taken off as all the right ideas were there. HP bought them but did nothing with it and just buried it.
@jonfreeman9682 I had the original with the magnetic charger. I loved that thing. So ahead of it's time. Apple and Google took inspiration from them for sure.
the camera modules atm making a comeback, Xiaomi Photography Kit. Honor is making currently a lens kit that fits to the camera bump too. & many more phones like vivo but they pretty much made & sold from 3rd party brands & not inhouse
Do you replace the batteries on your old restorations and iPhones that you fixed a long time ago now that they likely need a new battery again
Iris scanner 100% something I miss daily. Would have been great for masks and was so reliable wearing glasses!
Modular smartphone is a crazy cool concept if only they experimented more and came up with a practical solution the whole industry would have looked different
It's cool in concept but it won't work for 3 reasons. One it takes up space for modular design rather than one contiguous sealed device. Two not enough demand for modular add ons. Finally people change their phones every year or two so the add ons become useless in your next phone so it's just wasted money. The concept is cool but the demand isn't there.
5:20 Samsung didn't have the first iris scanner. The Lumia 950 and 950XL had one nearly a year before the Galaxy Note 7 was released. I still have one sitting around, and it still works perfectly despite being just shy of a decade old.
My 1st Android phone, a Motorola Photon 4G, had a sturdy metal kickstand for viewing in landscape mode on a table and such, but using the kickstand in the intended orientation put the charging port at the bottom. Fortunately the spring in the kickstand mechanism is strong enough that you could flip the phone 180 and the kickstand would still prop the phone up, although at a different angle. I personally never used the phone that way. I still have that phone and it still works but the volume up/down plastic button fell out and I never found it.
Good stuff.
Not forgetting Samurai headphone jack too, but at least wireless stuff got better, have to credit Apple for that.
Motorola with moto mods was a really cool take on adding modularity and capabilities to phones, the LG wing was sci-fi awesome, but then not all fantastic ideas catch on.
The CalyxOS Rom and lineage OS have also a optional pin scramble option.
Had an LG Wing. Loved it till I got fed up repairing it.
Before that, a ZTE Axon M. A two screen phone before two screen phones were cool.
And before before that, a Microsoft Lumia 950 XL. A phone that had iris scanning before Samsung did.
Phones with moving parts are prone to failure. Great design but poor durability. LG isn't known for good support.
@@jonfreeman9682 It actually had nothing to do with the rotation mechanics at all. I had replaced the battery because it started bulging abnormally (i.e. faster than a normal Li-Ion should). And then I replaced the back panel because it shattered. I learned then that glass is glass, and glass can break.
@@doq You're right glass is vulnerable but it's the preferred material in all premium phones. So a case is a must. iPhone and Samsung use full glass but Pixel and budget brands don't have this issue.
I feel you. I had to learn to repair my LG Wing because there's no phone released in America that I can replace it with.
Another now-dead weird form factor: the Asus PadFone, which docked your phone into a tablet. And as you mentioned with the Moto X modules, phones with projectors built in were attempted in the early days too.
The LG dual screen phones were great and way more practical than foldables. They even had stylus support on both screens
One of my favorite designs has to be the physical QWERTY keyboard that Blackberry phones had. Having a physical keyboard on an Android device is very interesting. I would like to see it come back.
I know xiaomi uses the underscreen fingerprint sensor for heart-rate sensing, and you can also use different fingers to open different "spaces", albeit less smoothly than the anomphone, since it has to load a totally different environment
I wish they can bring back LG, I still have my LG velvet and v60 still running good for backup phone, I love their design and cameras, The only thing they should do make the refresh rate 120 Hz.
I'll never forget that blackberry with the sliding keyboard. My boss had one and I was close to getting one too until they announced they were stopping support for it a couple of months after the launch.
I've never been so "sad" for a piece of tech, I really think they're was something they're. It was not even that thick, it just lacked the software support.
Someone really needs to come and disrupt the smartphone market and make them like PC, or at least Google should make the manufacturers open source their drivers after support has ended so they can be incorporated into AOSP.
I used a Keyone for almost 7 years, I wasn't aware of that unlocking method 🤦♂ I always used the fingerprint scanner in the spacebar.
Hugh. I wonder if your itest can support android head unit for the car. I have tried on the android head unit. However, for a weird reason, information immediately shows for a split second, and it disappear.