Dell PowerEdge T320 Server to T420 plus Mods!!

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  • @Luko13_
    @Luko13_ Рік тому +9

    Great build!
    I also got my hands on a T420 and now I have some ideas my bank account doesn't like at all :D

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +1

      Nice! Definitely stick a fan above the SAS drives and below the CD drive. The area at the top of the PCIe cards likes to hold air without much flow. The extra fan blows right at that area.

  • @ZoSkiLuv
    @ZoSkiLuv 8 місяців тому +2

    GREAT video man!! On a side note, you can control the fans through the idrac using IPMI. I have a T330, T630, and T430 that all have controllable fans programmatically. It cuts down on the noise when you set the fans to 10% of power but you have to monitor the heat to make sure nothing overheats.
    My T630 is whisper quiet with it's 6 fans running at a low speed.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words! Funny you mentioned, IPMItool, I actually made a tutorial video explaining how to install and use it as well as a list of various commands.
      On an R720 I was able to squeeze out a bit more 'quiet' from it by dialing down the non-CPU (1, 3, 4 & 6) fans a fre more percentage than #2 & #5 which helped the sound even more. The only issue was the RAID daughter card running a bit hotter than I liked, so I added a small Noctua 12v fan to the RAID card heatsink and fed power to it from one of The PCIe power connectors.
      ua-cam.com/video/KamY5zMpXKI/v-deo.htmlsi=7v6Hoj4Vv0eXzY7L

  • @L337f33t
    @L337f33t Рік тому +1

    Love it! I just upgraded mine to 2tb of ssd and 96GB of memory, mine is only the single cpu model.

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 Рік тому +2

    One of these would make a pretty neat high core count work station on the cheap. Something line blender or DaVinci Resolve would run pretty fast on one of these, Especially with an nvida 12 gig A2000

  • @x86guru92
    @x86guru92 Рік тому +2

    I always use a thermal paste spreader tool and evenly spread the thermal paste over the entire CPU's heat shield from edge-to-edge before I install the heat sink.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +4

      I used to do that until I observed small pockets of air that would stay trapped underneath. After running stress tests I found the center method produces the best results. I think it may be due to the paste being able to spread its self as it's compressed, working the air out as it spreads.

  • @sidfeng3466
    @sidfeng3466 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m trying to think about upgrading to T430 from T320, your video is very helpful.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words! If you have any questions, please feel free to ask away!

  • @paullee107
    @paullee107 Рік тому +1

    Killer. I have a Dell r330 and like the content. It has 64gb Ram; I’d love more info about upgrading these types of systems. (You’d prolly love my current project; a Dolch PAC 60 luggable 486!)

  • @johnvanwinkle4351
    @johnvanwinkle4351 4 місяці тому

    Nice job on the upgrades! Very clean install and I like the Noctua fans! I use them in my switches....grin

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  4 місяці тому

      Thank you for the kind words! The system has been way below quiet as well as can handle 24/7 stress testing with zero need to ramp up the fans at all, with CPU temps below 80C!

  • @gripdeath
    @gripdeath Місяць тому

    love this, definitely earned a sub

  • @Yofud
    @Yofud Місяць тому +1

    Hey there. This is flipping awesome! Good job. I just got a t430 and I am wondering how compatible these parts would be if I wanted to upgrade? Where would one check?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words! Unfortunately I don't think any of them are except the rear case fan accepting a Noctua 120mm 3K RPM industrial fan. Noctua does have a variety of coolers that do/can fit the LGA 2011-3 socket in the T430, but with a range of different requirements...
      ncc.noctua.at/cpus/model/Xeon-E5-2630L-v3-cpu-636
      In the end the question with coolers comes down to height and clearance (interference) under the factory Dell ducting/shroud. I would highly recommend keeping the shroud due to the airflow assist it provides around the drives connected to the front backplane as well as assisting with channeling CPU discharge heat to the exhaust fan. Having the individual Noctua fans for each CPU cooler allow you to turn the exhaust fan speed down greatly and still have excellent cooling ability. That coupled with the Nocua CPU coolers (which are overkill for the Xeons) allow you to turn the exhaust fan speed way down whiel also having the CPUs stressed 100% and never come remotely close to throttling... all while silent.

    • @Yofud
      @Yofud Місяць тому

      ​@@Warning56kb I appreciate the link! And thank you for that information.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Місяць тому

      @@Yofud You're very welcome!

  • @georgebadiu
    @georgebadiu Рік тому +2

    That was great. I'm a Noctua fans fan. Can you tell me please, the CPU cooling system will work with a T430-T630? Thank you.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +1

      I'm not certain about any clearance issues around the air ducting shroud, but Noctua at least used to make a mounting adapter kit (NM-I2011) to allow installation of any of their coolers made since 2005 on the LGA2011-3 socket, so if you can find the adapter kit, they'll definitely fit the socket. The NH-D14 SE2011 is compatible out of the box, but by the images clearance would most likely be an issue because of the width, but they might simply hand out a bit on the ends if the air duct shroud has open ends on the T430 and T630.

    • @georgebadiu
      @georgebadiu Рік тому +1

      @@Warning56kb Thank you so much for your reply. I thought that maybe Dell is using a modified socket, so you can't use a different CPU cooler. I should have that kit, I used a few E5 v3 in the last 5-6 years with Noctua. Now I'm waiting for you to make the tutorial about lowering the fans speed via IPMI tool - console. There's a rumour that you'll do it in the next 2 days 😎

  • @Marc_Wolfe
    @Marc_Wolfe Рік тому +3

    I modded mine to fit standard PSUs and put a supermicro X9DRH-7F in it.

    • @enriconapolitano4321
      @enriconapolitano4321 Рік тому

      You mean ATX PSU?

    • @Marc_Wolfe
      @Marc_Wolfe Рік тому

      yes

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      Nice!

    • @badharrow
      @badharrow 6 місяців тому +1

      Any pics or vids of this? Would like to put an epulyc or threadripper in my chasis

    • @Marc_Wolfe
      @Marc_Wolfe 6 місяців тому +1

      I cut a bigger hole with an angle grinder and welding in a PSU bracket I cut out of another case. There's plenty of room, do it.

  • @MorganTN
    @MorganTN Рік тому +1

    I will give it to Dell they do at least offer a lot of nooks and crannies to shove cables in to make cable management more efficient.

  • @stanleyng3341
    @stanleyng3341 Рік тому +2

    Killer: There's a 4 pin fan and a 5 pin PWN on the motherboard. Did you consider using either for the new CPU fans?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +2

      I actually have the Dell adapter for the lower fan pinout, but when I tapped into it the fan speed would continually remain at a very low RPM. It's supposed to be for the external cage fan that clips onto the rear, but I figured it would at least attempt to generate the same flow as the internal fan. That's also assuming it's it's the same spec fan, which I can't think of any reason why they'd use one with different specs. Changes in iDRAC wouldn't cause a change in its speed, so I just ditched it and used the splitters.

    • @alexanderross7081
      @alexanderross7081 10 місяців тому +1

      Can you link the power splitter for the fans?

    • @kashfiyotuz7719
      @kashfiyotuz7719 8 місяців тому

      You find them?

  • @tinkerscustom9568
    @tinkerscustom9568 11 місяців тому

    Awesome video showing potential upgrades.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words!

    • @tinkerscustom9568
      @tinkerscustom9568 11 місяців тому

      @@Warning56kb I just got a Dell t630 I'm wanting to upgrade to a t640! So you're video definitely helps. My steps will be different but I'm going to do a UA-cam video like you did to share my results
      I have to get some noctua fans!

  • @johnvanwinkle4351
    @johnvanwinkle4351 4 місяці тому +1

    While the music is nice, I would have enjoyed it more with narration....grin. Nice video showing the upgrades.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you, and agreed! I had narration to it, but the audio came out funky and just used music instead. I'm tempted to maybe reuse the video and add some narration to. Thank you for reminding me of this!

    • @Yofud
      @Yofud Місяць тому

      I liked the music a bunch, but yeah, I can hear some heavy breathing too? 😂 kinda weird

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Місяць тому

      @@Yofud 🤣 Shouldn't hear any heavy breathing. The audio was completely stripped by google because the original music had a copyright claim (despite being copyright free 🙄), so I laid down narration that didn't work out and ended up with the classical track instead of having dead silence.
      Maybe you still have your "other browser window" minimized 🤣

  • @i_am_not_a_pro_but_lets_try
    @i_am_not_a_pro_but_lets_try Рік тому +1

    hmm, I have 3 Dell T310's that I don't use very much at the moment - now I wonder if I could upgrade them similarly...............

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      You might be able to! Might be able to! Start checking out the manuals for the next size up board and look at pics of the connectors. Not sure about the PSU connectors on the 10th gen T's

  • @hieucaoac9011
    @hieucaoac9011 2 місяці тому

    I also have a dell t320 and I have some questions, hope you can answer:
    -its raid card is dell h310, as far as i know it is only 6 Gbps. i want to setup nas 10gbps can i replace this raid card to get the right speed ?
    -Can you make a video booting win ssd m2 nvme from the transfer card? is it stable? does it get enough speed? is there any other way?
    Tks you !

  • @dirtytechie
    @dirtytechie 5 місяців тому

    Hey, great build and love the video!
    Just got my hands on a T430 with the 2.5 SAS backplane, but coming from a SM CSE-826 which I was running 8x 3.5 SAS 4TB Drives and I want to get the 8x 3.5 Backplane/cage.
    Can you confirm if a donor T320 etc with that backplane will fit a T430?
    Thanks

  • @paullee107
    @paullee107 4 місяці тому

    Great video! I have an r320 1U and wonder if I can upgrade to a t420 mobo for a 2nd cpu too.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you for the kind words! I'm not 100% certain, but I highly doubt it would fit. My T320/T420s layout is massively different from my R720 in numerous ways. It would take a lot of work if even possible. Prices on the R720s have come down greatly over the past couple of years and you can get them for just $180 to $300 and have the potential to be upgraded to a couple of Sandy Xeons out the gate.

  • @adairjanney7109
    @adairjanney7109 Рік тому +1

    I have T320 and I am thinking the same thing, but at the same time couldnt I go for like a T530 or will it not fit?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      Theres a slim chance that it might, but I doubt it. I haven't had a 13th gen on hand to inspect. I know for certain the power supply setup is different as the PSUs are not interchangable. The 13th gen servers have come down in price quite a bit over just the past six months, so it may be a better idea to simply upgrade to a 13th gen system all together. You can get T530's around the $500 range, sometimes a little less.

    • @adairjanney7109
      @adairjanney7109 Рік тому +1

      @@Warning56kb How much did this upgrade cost you? What all would I have to buy to do it? Do I have to do all that you did or just MB, heatsinks and new cpus

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +2

      Everything cost around.... $350-ish? That was for the power supplies, motherboard, processors and RAM. There's kits for the power supply available that include the daughter board parts for the PSUs along with the PSUs. Bare minimum all you need is the MB and PSUs because of the power required. I could never find a solo PSU that had enough power for the dual Xeons. You honestly don't even need the heatsinks. I just put them on so I could lower the rear fan speed way down while actually having an improvement in cooling.

  • @BR155O
    @BR155O Рік тому +1

    Do you have a recommended guide on getting the T320/T420 hardware to run on windows 10 (specifically the PERC)? I am new to the server world and would benefit greatly from an idiot proof process to adhere to.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      I do not, but that wouldn't be too bad of a video to make. It's pretty straighforward. Windows 10 has compatible drivers for the PERC as well as all of the other components if I remember correctly from the last install. Even Windows 11 is very straightforward if you have the bypass for the TPM and Secure Boot through such as with Rufus.

    • @BR155O
      @BR155O 7 місяців тому

      You probably won’t see this but I was inspired by your guide to take a chance. Went through the process of cross flashing my Perc h710 using fohdeeshas guide and now have my t320 running truenas core within proxmox. I’ve got a ways to go in my self hosting journey but this video was a big inspiration! Great work!

  • @adairjanney7109
    @adairjanney7109 Рік тому +1

    why even upgrade the power supplies that much if you are going to throw that T600 in there, at the very least if you are going to go low wattage get one of those Tesla P4s

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      For future GPUs. That and the single original PSU was under spec for upgrading to dual Xeons, expecially the more power hungry ones. Decided to prep it for larger video cards rather than having to buy another set of PSU again later on.

  • @billybump1961
    @billybump1961 6 місяців тому +1

    So when you finished did the fan shroud fit over the new cpu coolers?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  6 місяців тому

      They did, perfectly! One of the primary goals of the upgrade was to retain the air duct due to the added cooling ability of all the fans being able to create a flow channel with a high flow rate in and out of the system, but with near zero noise.

    • @billybump1961
      @billybump1961 6 місяців тому

      @@Warning56kb thank you, by the way I enjoyed the background music!

  • @DonaldAdkins-i4n
    @DonaldAdkins-i4n 5 місяців тому

    Nice video very informative. I have a T320 with single 10 core processor and non redundant power supply. 96 mb ram. This also uses standard HDD's. Do you think the hot swappable power supply can be done to this system? I have read its only for hot swappable drive models only.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  5 місяців тому

      Thank you for the kind words! I'm fairly certain the hot swapable PSU can be used with the single CPU motherboards granted you get all of the hot swap PSU components. The motherboards have the same connections as well as the iDRAC versions being the same, so i'd very suprised if they didn't work for some reason.
      I'm willing to bet that the 'for hot swappable drive models only' is meant as a general disclaimer to people who may attempt to purchase redundant PSUs in hopes that they'll directly fit the original single PSU slot without modification.

    • @DonaldAdkins-i4n
      @DonaldAdkins-i4n 5 місяців тому

      @@Warning56kb Thanks for your quick answer I kinda thought it could be done just wanted to get the opinion of someone more knowledgeable

  • @GintarasSimonelis
    @GintarasSimonelis 10 місяців тому +2

    T420 you build ,can run windows server 2022 ?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  10 місяців тому

      It can! It can also even run normal Windows 11.

    • @GintarasSimonelis
      @GintarasSimonelis 10 місяців тому +1

      So if no tpm 2.0 on board is no problem ?@@Warning56kb

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  10 місяців тому

      @@GintarasSimonelis if you use Rufus to install it bypasses TPM and Secure Boot

    • @GintarasSimonelis
      @GintarasSimonelis 10 місяців тому

      Can you make video how to install server 2022 on dell poweredge t420 server ?@@Warning56kb

  • @enriconapolitano4321
    @enriconapolitano4321 8 місяців тому

    Hi there, I have this exact same Dell T420 tower and after upgrading to two Xeons E5-2450 V2 with 192Gb DDR3L 1.35V plus two redundant Delta 1600W PSU and a RTX3060 12Gb, the single 120mm fan at the back plus the two PSU tiny fans are running 99% quiet and silently, only at the very beginning start for about 12 or 20 seconds are noisy running at full speed therefore this is the reason was not really necessary for me to tweak as you did the % of fans curve speed and to change the coolers and change the 120mm fan, anyway thang you for this video

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  8 місяців тому +3

      Good to hear and you're very welcome! In this case the need for the CPU coolers and fan modifications was due to running the more power hungry CPUs than you have coupled with the CPU loads often approaching 90%, causing the fan speed to ramp up tremendously. These modifications allowed the CPUs to undergo 100% stress testing for 8 hours with no change in chassis fan speed and CPU temps maxing at 65C.
      Happy modding and good luck with your system! 🙂

    • @kashfiyotuz7719
      @kashfiyotuz7719 8 місяців тому +2

      Can you link the splitters?

  • @adairjanney7109
    @adairjanney7109 Рік тому +1

    too bad though there is nothing we can do to speed up booting, booting on the t320 is a nightmare as a desktop

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      Oh no doubt. The other troublesome part is if booting Windows 11 (or 10) instead of being used solely as a hypervisor, Windows occasionally trips the memory check at POST despite being diabled... adding even more time to an already lengthy boot time.

  • @stanleyng3341
    @stanleyng3341 Рік тому

    I've been reviewing the Dell T420 manual EBay and searching via Google - where do you get the Internal USB for the T420 motherboard? Can not find any in the marketplace - nor any mention in the documentation. What am I missing?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      It's just any general USB dongle. The more proven to be reliable the better. Really fast speeds isnt paramount because it'll be limited to USB 2.0 speed, but thats plenty fast enough just to load Clover, which is very lightweight. In general shoot for a short height dongle one if possible for clearance since it's tucked under some cabling.

  • @cooljey86
    @cooljey86 Рік тому +1

    What’s the ideal power consumption?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +1

      Depends on if you have a dual or single socket as well as amount of ram and accessories dual or single psu's, ect. You can potentially get it down below 50W, but i'd say a decent average is around 80-90W with an average number of accessories. This one runs at 120w idle loaded out. There's also power consumption settings you can set that commands full power, partial or power savings, which can have a drastic impact.

  • @DavidVincentSSM
    @DavidVincentSSM Рік тому +1

    will you be running a hypervisor? i wonder if it's esxi v8 compatible?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      It might be. I was previously running ESXi 7.0u3, but never attempted v8. It worked awesome as a hypervisor, right now it's my main daily-driver rig booting Windows 11 and running VMware Workstation Pro managing eight VMs. No typical Windows issues such as having to reboot often. No issues at all really with the exception of at reboot it will occasionally force run a mem check because of Win11. I was able to get ESXI v8 running on my R720, but had to first install v7.0u3 and then upgrade to v8. As soon as I get another daily driver rig going i'll return the T420 to hypervisor status and try to push v8 to it. I know the processors will halt the install, but not sure if it'll be bypassable. At that point i'll be having the T420 and R720 mirroring each other for failover.

    • @nigeltrigger4499
      @nigeltrigger4499 Рік тому

      Proxmox is fantastic on a T420

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      @@nigeltrigger4499 it is! I would use Proxmox more if it was more prevalent in the enterprise world.

  • @Cripples23
    @Cripples23 Рік тому +1

    How did you get windows 11 on it VM?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      It's booting Clover from the internal USB that then points to a 1TB WB Blue NMVe in a PCIe slot that has Win11 on it to continue the boot process.

  • @fobo79
    @fobo79 5 місяців тому

    What do I do if my iDRAC and Lifecycle Controller doesn't work, there are no videos or info on it!?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  5 місяців тому +1

      Can you not access iDRAC options from the BIOS?

    • @fobo79
      @fobo79 5 місяців тому

      Nopp

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  4 місяці тому +1

      @fob79 is correct, you cannot. You can access some settings for iDRAC, but not iDRAC its self.

  • @MarcChavez915
    @MarcChavez915 9 місяців тому

    What is the model number on the 10GB card, im trying to pick one up to add to mine

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  9 місяців тому

      Not sure off hand, but it was a Mellanox ConnectX-2. I would highly recommend looking for a ConnectX-4 if you plan of using it directly with Windows 11.

  • @CDE.Hacker
    @CDE.Hacker Рік тому

    Have you dealt with a dead iDRAC? Mine died in a iDRAC upgrade. Going from 6 to 7.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      Uh oh. As far as i'm aware flashing from 6 to 7 is impossible on a gen 11 due to hardware differences. I'm willing to bet the unit is kaput. Most likely have to buy another v6 module.

    • @CDE.Hacker
      @CDE.Hacker Рік тому

      @@Warning56kb I saw a couple of videos about desoldering the emmc chip. and replacing it. I was wondering if you have any opinions on doing this?

  • @Vali615
    @Vali615 Рік тому

    How do you control the fan speed of those extra fans? Or are they on max speed all the time?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      Right. They just run at their rated speeds from the SATA power adapter. The loudest fans are the PSU fans, but once it settles down after boot they're quiet.

    • @Vali615
      @Vali615 Рік тому

      @@Warning56kb I'm trying to cool my PCIe cards, since they get so hot you can't touch them, but without manual fan speed control, I could not find a way beside putting them at max speed as you did...

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому +2

      @@Vali615 Gotcha. In the video I added a Noctua NF-P12 as an intake fan that blows onto the PCIe cards. That one alone helped tremendously. With a CD drive in the top bay it fits very snugly underneath it. Pretty much eliminates that hot upper PCIe area.

  • @florider_hd
    @florider_hd Рік тому +1

    no gpu?

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      It''s using an Nvidia RTX T600. Shows it at the 2:12 and 27:57 marks.

  • @chrismay2298
    @chrismay2298 18 днів тому

    T400 series AND Mozart...? Insta-subscribe!

  • @dandraeg3679
    @dandraeg3679 Рік тому

    Bro the music is trash otherwise good vid

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      How can you even hear it? Lol. I added it just havr something in the background. Turned it waaaay down low to the point it was just slight white noise. Is it loud for you?

    • @dandraeg3679
      @dandraeg3679 Рік тому +1

      @@Warning56kb The sound or type of music just annoyed me in that moment if I could suggest something more chill or no music at all.

    • @Warning56kb
      @Warning56kb  Рік тому

      @@dandraeg3679 Understood. Thank you for the feedback!

    • @chrismay2298
      @chrismay2298 18 днів тому

      Yeah, some of the most celebrated music for over 200 years is trash... You guys crack me up suggesting everyone should make their videos to fit your "taste".