This gonna be the 3rd dockyard i gonna skip in a row. Not giving WG money except if its some interesting battle pass reward ( have alot of premium time already). The latest move from WG to cement my decision even further, was to close the forums to silence the criticism.
It's a very weird design. Torps are good but not good enough to be worth playing as a torp boat. Guns are good but not good enough to play over a real gunboat.
I was thinking the same thing. Also, the Hydro is useful, but not as useful as Sherman / Vampire / the german DDs who can actually use it to trap people while undetected in smoke. All in all it seems decent, especially if youre making full use of your heals to outlast enemy DDs instead of outgunning them. I'm still not convinced yet, though. Will have to watch some more Reviews.
Yay he used the AP😁The heal is probably just for dd engagements/people starting to look at you. Love your videos. Helped me understand the basic playstyles of ships in the game.
I put the 3 point skill gun reload into the 3 point skill torp reload. The gun reload only gives you 0.1second buff. What is 0.1 second, i think it's not worth it.
Could you make a video about dd to dd engagements, how to do that. I know that you mentioned some tricks in many videos but if you could put all these tactics into one guide that would be nice.
Ah, is this the ship where you said something to the effect of "you have to switch to the AP as often as possible" and then proceeded to not use it? Good times :P
Much better than last time but still I am not convinced. Does it make any difference to put Sa Zhenbing on it? Sure he has a torpedo talent but Lushun ain't a torpedo boat as it was intended in the begining. Complicated...
He has an improved consumable duration skill (+12.5% instead of 10%), can get 20% reload buff on main guns with a combat scout achievement, and every 1.5m potential damage your consumable cooldown get faster. That seems very strong on paper.
@@solidtoto The consumable buff only affects the hydro which isn't that useful, combat scout is something you basically never trigger anyway, especially if you use it as a long range gunboat and by the time you reach 1.5m potential damage you would have likely run out of heals already anyway. The other special panasian "Rong" captains might be better in comparison as they improve Survivability Expert (+500 health which also increases the heals so its more like +1000 health over the duration of the entire match if you use 3 heals) and improved Demolition Expert which can significantly increase the fire chance from 5% to 6.5% (+30% fire chance) or from 6% to 7.5% with the signals which is almost what Smalland gets baseline.
@@Fabunility So, with rejection of a torpedo reload booster from Lushun set of consumables we in fact loose the best potential talent that Sa Zhenbing could bring to the table in favour of Rong family commander abilities. So, which ship (tech tree ships excluded) of high tiers can use torpedo attack expert talent of Zhenbing or perhaps there will be another top tier torpedo oriented destroyer that Zhenbing is intended for?
It's.....okay. It's main ability is having a super-heal, so it can survive quite a lot of damage. However the guns are quite low DPM and the torps fair-to-middling, plus it's quite clumsy.
Neustrashimy is very strong in ranked because of the fantastic camo and survivability. You miss out on hydro but you get a regular smoke instead that can be great for covering your supporting cruisers. It handles most DD‘s very well but you need to swap often between AP and HE to compensate the low DPM. The super heal keeps it alive in many situations where other DD‘s would be long dead. Kinda hard to play but after some time you know how to do it.
At least in Randoms, I feel that DPM is more important to do win DD games nowadays, which Neustra does not have. Super-heal can be good if you’re a good player, but it’s just easier to have better DPM and bully enemy DDs instead. Feels bad when you get always zoned out by the TX gunboat DDs and can’t do anything about it.
I am new(er) to the game and I will probably skip this. If it were slightly better in HE alpha I would consider it. I very much like the destroyer gameplay and have been having fun with my Ognevoi (my first T8 DD! )
Get Lushun u wont regret it (if u did the missions of course). If u like ognevoi and grozovoi guns, u will love Lushun (although her playstyle is different). I would not normally say this as u are newer, but who knows if Lushun will be in the dockyard again. Also, her HE dpm is still good and the alpha is the same as grozovoi anyway
I have 6300 dubs accumulated from ranked and stuff, need to get Silver rank 1 in the next few days to get that 7000 before I get the 4 shipbuilding phases. Because I want this ship but I do not want to spend a sigle dime in this game.
You were super close to a 9 kill game!!! 2 questions, whats the range on the hydro, and will it maybe be available after dockyard for coal or steel? I would really enjoy this, but def not the time to grind over the next month😒
It's gonna be fun about Lüshun though but it's all about a Torpedo Build but not a Gun Build but despite of without Smoke and Torpedo Reload Booster Consumable like Pan-Asian Tech-trees. I'm about to getting this ship real soon
Sherman is very different, starting by the SAP. It also depends a lot in the smoke. Shells are very floaty, and its even more sluggish. I don't see the point of comparing them. Is it also a worst Shima? Sure.
@@foxandroses "what has price of fish" is an English expression to point out that the previous commenter (you) are making totally irrelevant statements.
you can actually use aslain mod where the torp indicators will get a yellow dot on top of them when they're detected by the enemy
this is also available in ModStation too
This gonna be the 3rd dockyard i gonna skip in a row. Not giving WG money except if its some interesting battle pass reward ( have alot of premium time already). The latest move from WG to cement my decision even further, was to close the forums to silence the criticism.
according to Flamu news many better players are leaving the game...
F2P is the way of the sword, trust me.
It's a very weird design. Torps are good but not good enough to be worth playing as a torp boat. Guns are good but not good enough to play over a real gunboat.
I was thinking the same thing. Also, the Hydro is useful, but not as useful as Sherman / Vampire / the german DDs who can actually use it to trap people while undetected in smoke.
All in all it seems decent, especially if youre making full use of your heals to outlast enemy DDs instead of outgunning them. I'm still not convinced yet, though. Will have to watch some more Reviews.
Siliwangi 2.0
@@SteelxWolfnah, Siliwangi is a torpboat
But... its guns are really good. Top of the class ballistic and more dpm than khaba
@@dreamjonas7569 not with the torp reload it doesn’t. It takes so damn long to reload for my taste
Yay he used the AP😁The heal is probably just for dd engagements/people starting to look at you. Love your videos. Helped me understand the basic playstyles of ships in the game.
I put the 3 point skill gun reload into the 3 point skill torp reload. The gun reload only gives you 0.1second buff. What is 0.1 second, i think it's not worth it.
I would love to see this ship with heavy ap.
Could you make a video about dd to dd engagements, how to do that. I know that you mentioned some tricks in many videos but if you could put all these tactics into one guide that would be nice.
i was just thinking if i should spend 7k doubloon on this and pq uploads
Hard pass.
Yes, can you do the Neustra next? o7 PQ!
Thanks for the video!
Ah, is this the ship where you said something to the effect of "you have to switch to the AP as often as possible" and then proceeded to not use it? Good times :P
I’m getting this, I love high tier DDs.
Much better than last time but still I am not convinced. Does it make any difference to put Sa Zhenbing on it? Sure he has a torpedo talent but Lushun ain't a torpedo boat as it was intended in the begining. Complicated...
He has an improved consumable duration skill (+12.5% instead of 10%), can get 20% reload buff on main guns with a combat scout achievement, and every 1.5m potential damage your consumable cooldown get faster.
That seems very strong on paper.
@@solidtoto The consumable buff only affects the hydro which isn't that useful, combat scout is something you basically never trigger anyway, especially if you use it as a long range gunboat and by the time you reach 1.5m potential damage you would have likely run out of heals already anyway.
The other special panasian "Rong" captains might be better in comparison as they improve Survivability Expert (+500 health which also increases the heals so its more like +1000 health over the duration of the entire match if you use 3 heals) and improved Demolition Expert which can significantly increase the fire chance from 5% to 6.5% (+30% fire chance) or from 6% to 7.5% with the signals which is almost what Smalland gets baseline.
@@Fabunility So, with rejection of a torpedo reload booster from Lushun set of consumables we in fact loose the best potential talent that Sa Zhenbing could bring to the table in favour of Rong family commander abilities. So, which ship (tech tree ships excluded) of high tiers can use torpedo attack expert talent of Zhenbing or perhaps there will be another top tier torpedo oriented destroyer that Zhenbing is intended for?
this looks like a Neustrashimy, is it? Is Neustrashimy any good? Top coal ship but I rarely see them.
It's.....okay. It's main ability is having a super-heal, so it can survive quite a lot of damage. However the guns are quite low DPM and the torps fair-to-middling, plus it's quite clumsy.
I like Neustrishi a lot. Great concealment and 3 heals. Got my first Kraken in it. It’s got good AA and decent torpedoes. Guns are ok, but I like it.
@@EvoraGT430 Good to know, thanks. Because I too can be quite clumsy in destroyers.
Neustrashimy is very strong in ranked because of the fantastic camo and survivability. You miss out on hydro but you get a regular smoke instead that can be great for covering your supporting cruisers. It handles most DD‘s very well but you need to swap often between AP and HE to compensate the low DPM. The super heal keeps it alive in many situations where other DD‘s would be long dead. Kinda hard to play but after some time you know how to do it.
At least in Randoms, I feel that DPM is more important to do win DD games nowadays, which Neustra does not have. Super-heal can be good if you’re a good player, but it’s just easier to have better DPM and bully enemy DDs instead. Feels bad when you get always zoned out by the TX gunboat DDs and can’t do anything about it.
I am new(er) to the game and I will probably skip this. If it were slightly better in HE alpha I would consider it. I very much like the destroyer gameplay and have been having fun with my Ognevoi (my first T8 DD! )
Get Lushun u wont regret it (if u did the missions of course). If u like ognevoi and grozovoi guns, u will love Lushun (although her playstyle is different). I would not normally say this as u are newer, but who knows if Lushun will be in the dockyard again.
Also, her HE dpm is still good and the alpha is the same as grozovoi anyway
Best feeling when you openwater kill a DD and no one shoots you lol
I have 6300 dubs accumulated from ranked and stuff, need to get Silver rank 1 in the next few days to get that 7000 before I get the 4 shipbuilding phases. Because I want this ship but I do not want to spend a sigle dime in this game.
You were super close to a 9 kill game!!! 2 questions, whats the range on the hydro, and will it maybe be available after dockyard for coal or steel? I would really enjoy this, but def not the time to grind over the next month😒
5.5km range
No, dockyard ships are never available again for resources.
@@BigD321 tyty! o7
One of the best dd’s on dockyard 😊
I see nearly no Grozovois, can you make a video for her? :3
Gearing was a paid actor
What game mode was that
This is a hard pass for me as I do not have the resources. Also do not known if CB season battles count. I purchased the Brisbane for coal.
resource? You'll have to spend doubloons on this ship, 7 000 minimum.
The dockyard actually gives you quite a bit of resources.
It's gonna be fun about Lüshun though but it's all about a Torpedo Build but not a Gun Build but despite of without Smoke and Torpedo Reload Booster Consumable like Pan-Asian Tech-trees.
I'm about to getting this ship real soon
Not to bash anyone but umm.
5:55 chat, wows moment
Take a look at the grind before committing to get this thing to. Some of the missions are a little silly.
Ship request nestrashimy
Yeah, I just dont think its worth the Dubs, 7K seems like a lot for a dockyard boat, and this isnt really anything special.
not sure this is worth real money
a worse sherman
The Best t10 DDs in-game are STILL the KLEBER, DARING and SMALAND. Everything else is just a filler sadly...
Gdansk is pretty good@@dominges
@@dominges Marceau and Vampire II but those in fact are Daring and Kleber derivatives
Sherman is very different, starting by the SAP. It also depends a lot in the smoke. Shells are very floaty, and its even more sluggish. I don't see the point of comparing them. Is it also a worst Shima? Sure.
@@leonidas231 gdansk is the sound that a big rock makes when you throw it in to a lake
These torps are worse than CV.
This is op af but it costs $70-$80 and still takes months of grinding on top of that to get
Cost is about $27.50 for the first 5 stages and then you have a little less than 2 months of grind not bad for a tier ten if you play very regular.
@@Cloudman572 I can get a tier 10 in 1 day
@@foxandroses And what does that have to do with the price of fish?
@@Cloudman572 Are you drunk?
@@foxandroses "what has price of fish" is an English expression to point out that the previous commenter (you) are making totally irrelevant statements.