EVERYBODY missed the point of Cast Away (2000) │ A Video Essay on Betrayal
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- Kelly was a cheating cheater who cheated on Chuck. For a film with barely any dialogue it’s impressive how much subtext Robert Zemeckis managed to pack in; likewise, it’s impressive how many people completely missed it all. I’d recommend anyone to watch Cast Away (2000) with this interpretation in mind because it goes from being a goofy movie about talking to a volleyball to becoming a genuinely heart-breaking film.
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*The followup-up video is finally here:* ua-cam.com/video/DBttgC8fspE/v-deo.html
Thank you for watching! Below is a list of some of the *genius* contributions from the comment section:
*1:* @jonXler pointed out that 8 minutes and 52 seconds into the film there is a sound while Chuck records a message on the answering phone. I think this is the *smoking gun* as it sounds like a 'duck' and my grandfather thinks it sounds like a 'dental drill' 😬
*2:* @_misnoma_ pointed out that the timepiece Kelly gives Chuck is a cheap gift for a broke PHD student at Christmas time (when there's no money from tutoring or lecturing). I want to be *really cynical* and suggest that it's not even a family heirloom; Kelly could have been mistaken but I think she lied because it's a known trivia/goof that it wasn't a railroad pocket watch like Kelly claimed ("My grandaddy used it on the southern pacific"), here's a quote from IMDB:
_"This is not a real railroad watch since the specific design was controlled by federal regulations, and would have never been allowed to be used on the job by a railroad crewman..."_
So I think she got the timepiece from a thrift store or maybe the University's lost and found. 😅
*3:* @notsureyou pointed out that the watch only having a photo of Kelly in it - instead of both of them - could be her just wanting him to have something to remember her by, as in "you WERE special to me," "what we HAD was special," etc. or it could also have been a guilty conscience present, i.e. "I do love him, this watch photo present proves it."
*4* @ironsoul80 pointed out that Kelly's first scene in the film has her standing next to a 'Caution Radioactive Material' sign - with obvious implications - and that there's a poster with a frog making eye contact with chuck, which could imply the 'Boiling Frog' metaphor.
*5:* @thatchap brought up the fact that Kelly attempted to *gaslight* Chuck with "You said you'd be right back" which is definitely a strange thing to say. I think it could be taken a few ways, none of them good, but to me it does seem like an attempt at gaslighting, deflecting responsibility, and/or alleviating her guilt.
*6:* @michaeljamesmccabe pointed out that during Chuck's monologue with his friend (Stan) he doesn't say anything and looks uncomfortable the whole time; I think that in itself, a monologue is a monologue for a reason, but also on the plane when Chuck asks _"What in the World am I going to say to her?"_ there is an uncomfortable 4-second-pause before Stan responds. I doubt Stan would have known anything for sure but I think he must have had the same suspicions.
*7:* @SkidsIsVFL pointed out that:
"Memphis had already had 2 failed pro football franchises and were snubbed for expansion after the Oilers moved to Nashville (where they were renamed to the Titans). So hearing a Memphis native say “We (Tennessee) have a football team, but they’re in Nashville?” echoes the city’s feelings of betrayal and the question is aimed at a woman who cheated on him is chefs kiss beautiful-but kinda niche-subtext."
*8:* @JamesCarmichael "You could say that Lovett fed his ex" 💀
*9:* @devlinallistair-zx5by pointed out that there could be an element of 'Hypergamy' to Kelly's hooking up with Lovett. i.e. "She's getting her dissertation, so she needs to be with a doctor."
*10:* @timsimmons9995 had another interpretation for 'Kelly' which I think is superior to mine: "Kelly means "strife, war," which is interpreted as conflict, a battle, or a disagreement. We can interpret that as meaning Kelly was in conflict or disagreement with herself, or two men were unknowingly in conflict for her heart, etc."
*11:* A small mistake in the video: I refer to the guy at the Christmas table as 'Chuck's friend' when he's actually just Kelly's uncle, which I believe supports my point more as Kelly's family don't want to discuss her past relationships at all and a friend would have probably just told Chuck (bro code), whereas an uncle would probably not get involved.
*12:* Another small mistake, the woman I referred to as a 'stewardess' is actually a pilot, my bad.
*13:* A point which has occurred to me for anyone looking to defend Kelly is that it's not right for her to kiss Chuck and declare her undying love for him while the man she married and the daughter they're raising are sleeping in their home just out of frame. To put it bluntly, there's no way Kelly was going to be honest with Lovett after this:
_"So I kissed Chuck and really I love him but I have to stay in this sham marriage because of our daughter and mortgage and I'm probably going to resent you for the rest of our lives etc."_
We are on Chuck's side as he's the protagonist but what Kelly is doing to Lovett is actually really bad. "Kelly is not an honest woman."
*14:* Finally, I want to recommend this incredibly deep video by 'Logos Made Flesh' who sadly has since passed away: ua-cam.com/video/ECnvX3oKIMA/v-deo.html
I hope that you enjoyed the video! Once again, *thank you so much for watching!*
It seems like almost every time he takes out the watch to look at her picture, he pushes it away. I always wondered if that meant something.
I always thought she was a bit snide, never ever really trusted her character. this puts it all in perspective and makes so much sense.
Wow, I’ve been looking at this all wrong for the past 23 years. I don’t know if I’m sad or happy about it. I guess we’ve all some how been through this but didn’t know it. Great work with this video, thanks.
Brilliant. All of it, Brilliant. 🤯
This is so good. I believe all of it. You support your points well. When I saw the movie, I found poignancy and sadness in its ending: a man whose path in life and love was crushed by the downing of the plane, having to start his life all over again. It feels more hopeful now, with a man who has survived and is at the crossroads to the next chapter in his life. A love was never lost. It was never a love story at all.
I remember well-known print and TV movie critics saying that the final act of the movie with his adjustment back to civilization and reunion was superfluous and a clumsy add-on. Watching your video, I see how important it was in telling the story of those who went on with their lives in his absence.
The visual cues, the dialogue, the acting were not happenstance. From what I've read, Zemeckis was meticulous in his direction, more so than other directors. Another channel, Barely Human, goes in deep into the symbolism and archetypes conveyed in another Zemeckis-directed project: "Back to the Future." There is subtext and deeper meaning in that movie as well.
I agree with this synopsis. I found Kelly's behavior odd. I had a wife cheat on me for a period of time in the 90's, she carried on the double life for awhile for convenience until circumstances allowed for her to leave. Ironically she stated me something along the lines of "the love of her life," along with the ever-so-popular "I love you but I' not in-love with you." The grass wasn't greener and she tried returning, I said no. A girlfriend that I saw the movie with pointed out that Cast Away being two words was odd. I never thought much about this movie, but I believe this guy is correct.
Sometimes people ask me _"why would Kelly cheat though?"_ so I appreciate you sharing this; I think it can be difficult for some people to conceptualize just how *senseless/selfish/callous/etc.* cheating can really be, I mean, some of the stories shared here make Chuck and Bettina's experiences look like cakewalks 😭
(I also think that the nastiest comments are made by _cheaters_ who just resent the censure) 😅💀☕
She's still not as bad as his other GF, Jenny
HAHAHAHAH.
Or the other one that blew up on him..Apollo 13. Strange name for a girl!
Yes! Just said the same thing! Jenny is the worst!! Even worse than Parker Posey in You’ve Got Mail.
😂
That dramatic display of affection near the end of the movie was also, essentially, an act of cheating.
Essentially
I like this. Imagine a man who is rejected by the love of his life and finds out she was cheating on him. What does he do? He focuses on himself, improves himself, gets in shape, isolates himself for a while. Then heads back out into the world a changed man with a new outlook.
Let's hope this man, real or imagined is never foolish enough to get married
He did play the world's first simp in forrest gump and still didn't learn so he had it coming
Exactly what I did after my divorce in 2005.
There's no indication that he did any of those things.
What he did was get in his old car (symbolic of still being the same old Chuck) and went on a pilgrimage to return packages (symbolic of him restoring order), and chased after a woman who is represented as a butterfly.
Butterflies can represent change, and new life, and chasing butterflies can represent feeling unfulfilled, unsatisfied.
The woman is also seen wearing a welding hood and welding leathers, which represents a hidden identity, and protecting herself.
Her husband was with a lover in Russia, which is symbolic of warmth in a cold world.
This suggests that he had to go all the way to Russia to escape the cold of his marriage to a shady woman who protects herself and often conceals her true face. She also looks as the world through a very dark lens, and holds fire in her hands, like the goddess Hestia, goddess of hearth, home, and family.
Butterfly woman is never seen in the home, with family or near the home fire, she has rejected these roles, instead is seen in recluse, on a ladder building a large sculpture, symbolic of the tower of Babel, itself a symbolic of expression pride, ego, and arrogance.
She works alone on the new tower of Babel. This suggests she is not able to communicate with others.
So the same old Chuck is trying to restore order to his life and at the end of his pilgrimage ultimately feels unfulfilled and unsatisfied, and chases after a new woman who's nature is as dubious as the last.
So he's not a changed man. He's repeating his folly.
Watch out Chuck! Doooon't do it!!
@@AZ-kr6ff and NEVER get Married Gentlmen!!!!
I was having this exact same argument for 20 years with everyone I knew who saw this movie. Details masquerading as banal conversation. The subtle subtext. The child's age was an obvious red flag, though the final nail which sealed it for me was when Kelly ran to Chuck to kiss and embrace him in the rain. Knowing she has a home with a husband and child sleeping inside, and chooses to run from it to kiss and hold a man from her past boldly displays Kelly's lack of impulse control.
When Chuck returned the watch to Kelly, he told her that it didn't work, as in hindsight of his relationship. He said to her that he kept the picture, and that "it was faded anyway," much like their bond. He never said to Kelly that it was her who kept him alive on the island. He did declare this to Bettina in a note he left for her, as it was Bettina who gave him the "wings" to escape the island. By chance, Chuck came across her on the intersection at the right time much like by chance he came across her package and her wings.
Good to see someone else picked up on the subtleties of the subtext, as people thought I was overanalysing. 😂
As usual people don't know what they're talking about because your analysis is great! 😅 What you said about Chuck telling Bettina but not telling Kelly nothing is actually why I chose to end my video on "I love you too, Kelly, more than you'll ever know." because, knowing what we know, hearing Chuck say that line is like hearing a dagger. Great stuff! 😁
Who else might you meet at a crossroads with your soul in a box?
I never liked the Kelly character. The fact that she actually blames him. "You said you'd be right back." Like it's his fault he was in a plane crash and stranded for 4 years on an island. I never thought about her having a previous affair but I did think that time line was rather quick for someone who "always knew you were alive." Within a year and a half she married and moved on.
Exactly! Also how she says "everybody said I had to move on" who's everybody and why do you have to move on? Most of what she says is vague and evasive anyway because her dialogue is written to evoke mistrust, as is Helen Hunt's acting, i.e. looking like she was about to have a panic attack when Chuck said "let me get one thing straight here." 😨 I expand on these thoughts in the follow-up video (link in the pinned comment) 🙂
I admit I missed quite a bit. But the fact that Chuck really wasn`t gone that long, and his woman had already married some other guy and had a child by him, a child who was already two years old, indicated to me there was something funny going on with the woman.
that media literacy is a mothafuckerfucker
women age faster, their biological clock runs out a lot faster than a mans. Women age like milk, men age like wine. Women just have that biological survival trait that helps them move on quicker.
I'm pretty sure this is also why the title of the movie is "Cast Away" rather than "Castaway." That's a massive clue right there.
🤣 How dare you!
You’re a freakin’ genius
Mind blown
Yooooooo
sorry pls explain this to me
Just an obscure thought....Chuck wasn't truly "Cast Away" until after he was rescued. The life he knew and the people in it (at least the version of those people at that time) no longer exist. He came "home" only to be a stranger in his own life.
I love this interpretation 😮 You should watch the follow-up video as well you'll probably enjoy it 😃
@@ExtraCheeseProject will do! Thank you for the recommendation!
What a great video. Having watched this movie a number of times, it always bothered me how Kelly acted so much in love and believed Chuck to be alive, and yet, moved on seemingly quickly and easily.
Now it makes much more sense!
Me reading the title of this: "you're full of crap!"
Me after watching this for 2 minutes: "That tramp!"
🤣
Hahaha! Same here.
So he was cast AWAY before he even made it to the deserted island. NOW I get it!
I never understood why Kelly wouldn’t come to see him. I wouldn’t expect my girlfriend to wait forever if I went missing. But to act like you don’t even care they survived is just inhuman.
But the fear of being caught being a cheater makes some sense.
Im sorry but kelly was trash.
She married his dentist (not cool)
Then had a baby for him. (WTF!!!)
Then she gave up on her career. (Whaaaaat?)
Then she was ready to abandon her whole new family in a blink of an eye if he didnt tell her to "Go Home"
OH, and she did all that in 4 years...
Kelly was the villain of the film.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned in the comments -- the guy she was (probably) cheating with was Chuck's dentist. Chuck mentioned he was having dental issues when he was briefly home at Christmas. She pushed him out the door onto the fateful flight because she didn't want him to visit that dentist, fearing her cheating might be revealed somehow. His stranding was a consequence of her trying to hide the cheating.
I really like your idea! A caveat: 'Spalding' is Chuck's personal dentist whereas 'Lovett' was apparently a random outcall _endodontist_ or oral surgeon for a one-off root canal (a fact which makes it beyond unlikely that Kelly just happened to meet him of all people after Chuck's disappearance). That said, the concept still has merit, as it's likely that Spalding would refer Chuck to the same _endodontist_ for another root canal 😃 Unfortunately, it's too late to add this to the followup video, so I'll pin it in a comment when it's out 💯
Not the same dentist, this guy is not his dentist he only did a procedure after he was referred
OK. You have me. I BELIEVE. But what I absolutely refuse to believe is that a dental surgeon drives a Toyota Camry.
Kelly drives the Benz.
He does have a 60 yacht and a bungalow in the caymans
Interesting and sad that Chuck's two most important relationships in this movie (Kelly and Wilson) were basically fictional.
And here I thought this movie was about a guy that got stranded on an island via plane crash, silly me lol.
I remember disliking Kelly in the film even though I knew it was perfectly rational to move on after someone is believed lost at sea, or otherwise presumed dead. That makes logical sense.
There was still this... something. I couldn't put my finger on it. She seemed emotionally distant, like she just wasn't invested. I wrote it off as bad acting for the longest time, just the actress phoning it in on an otherwise great film.
Now? This all makes perfect sense.
Same, i was a child...with life experience, oh yeah seems that way.
Thought he would learn after Jenny. Better luck next time.
Did nobody notice that the movie is literally named Cast Away not Castaway?
Mind blown. It’s right there in the title.. it’s Cast Away, not Castaway. Well done.
I'd wondered about that title choice, and now it makes sense.
@@thirstinthrockmortoniii9202 Ditto.
This makes so much more sense now. I absolutely hated that movie on a visceral level, but consciously couldn't come up with a reason I felt it was so horrible when everyone was raving about it. So in the background, my subconscious caught all of those clues, but I never quite put it together.
One of those "wow, how did I not notice that" moments. New twist on a film I've watched countless times. So busy watching his struggles, I didn't think past her finding out he was dead and moving on as easily as most women seem capable of doing.
I am ashamed to admit that I missed from this movie any peripheral understanding that is presented here.
I mistakenly thought that the movie was about two people incredibly in love, separated, and a man’s incredible survival quest.
Same here--and I'll never be the same
This movie is depressing af. And when you look at it with your theory it makes it ten times more depressing.
I think you’re right, the dead giveaway is the “let me get one thing straight.” And the fact that the timeline you showed works so perfectly.
I’m with you. I remember this movie feeling weird when I saw it in the theatre, but Helen Hint always played all her parts ambivalently-even mad about you. She was the poster child for late second wave feminism: do I want a man, do I want a career, do I want more than one man? She’s dumping him before he even gets on that plane. I think the gal on the ranch will be much more straight with him.
A side note; In the beginning of the movie, they pan over pictures of Chuck and Kelly. They are shown having fun on sail boats, we see Chuck's sailing certification and a few trophies. So, Kelly is well aware that Chuck can navigate and captain a sail boat, and is possibly stranded on an island in the Pacific Ocean. All the more crushing that she cast him away. Also in the beginning of the film, Kelly is never home and is never shown (or heard) returning any of his messages.
I think this movie shows that most of our hopes that we hold onto to survive life are just an illusion. Even so they are still important to our survival.
Been saying this for years. Castaway is one word, yet the title is a deliberate two words. He was cast away
I always pride myself that I can catch things in movies but this flew over my head… What sealed it was the timeline and when Tom hanks character looked at the fridge and saw the kid noticed the age then added 9 months to that, then put the rest together….
Wow just wow
The point of Castaway is a long-form ad for FedEx.
next time use fedex GROUND LOL
Rewatching this film shortly after my wife left me, it really did seem like a cheating /breakup movie.
The slow burn relationship abrubtly ending in flames. The feeling of total abandomrnt, and isolation.
All of the stuggles just to make it through one more day. And the final acceptance of fact.
And of course in the end, the ''now what?'' moment.
Hang in there. I know it sounds dumb, but make sure you’re getting some kind of exercise every day, even if it’s just going for a walk. This is crucial to keeping you sane.
I feel ya, buddy. I once lost a very long-term relationship to an incredibly intelligent woman who used me spiritually and psychologically and then threw me away when I no longer suited her purposes. Such is life. Learn from the experience. Do not allow it to embitter you. Become more.
@@VictoryAviation For sure. I stopped drinking for months, bought a heavy bag and worked out twice a day, And yes, it was a big help.
This was 5 yrs ago. Your advice is sound.
@@Eli-Just-Eli Really glad you did that. It was an incredibly smart move. Also glad you’re doing better now.
The light Chuck flicked on and off when he got back home showed him more loyalty and love than Kelly ever did.
The dentist timeline I think is best case for this theory . Also highlights why writers would in so much dental references .
There’s more layers and meanings to the film . Big one to the ending is doing the right thing and not allowing her to disrupt her family by giving up what he wanted most . A man who raced the clock off and on the island now uses time for what matters most , people not career .
the frayed noose at the island cliff signifies he wasn't "hung" enough for her,
and Wilson floating away signifies his castration, and thus ultimate escape from her.
😂😂😂😂
Hilarious
She DID cheat on him with “Mr.Big”
I liked Cast Away enough I bought it on dvd, but after having been cheated on a couple times, I found myself just unable to watch it again, like my subconscious mind just knew she was a cheating cheater who cheated on chuck the whole time. Makes sense.
For the life of me I could NEVER understand why Tom Hanks' character ever wanted to leave the island in the first place. He lived on a tropical island with year round warm temperatures (and no snow), found shelter, a water source and a food source (all for free). He didn't have to pay taxes, rent or have any other expenses. And the best part of all...... NOBODY AROUND TO BOTHER HIM. If that were me, I would never want to leave the island.
Pussy and ice. We can see It in the film.
You would've died by day two.
@@easterworshipper730 ....and instant gas lighters...
Fair point, but think he was also concerned that a broken bone or something similar would mean death. Based on Wilson, it is apparent that an extrovert like him would be susceptible to terrible loneliness.
He was conditioned by his capitalist controllers to forsake paradise to serve the capitalism bitch-goddess of wealth, efficiency and success!!!
The movie is thus also a metaphor for how capitalism alienates us from the idyllic life we could have without corporate overlords driving us all over the planet with its tentacles reaching into every nook and cranny of human experience, relationships, and the planet, even a tropical desert island.
Most interesting study. And, like it or not, the film has all necessary supporting elements to this hypothesis.
Following the same line of thinking, ending up marooned in that island actually saved Chuck from either (a) a heartbreaking dump by Kelly (who according to this theory will drop him like a lead jacket as soon as she performed her title defense dissertation); or, (b) a doomed marriage since following the same logic, if Kelly failed to gain the resolve and moral fortitude to do the right thing and end their relationship, she most likely would have ended up marrying him, not out of love but out of convenience since he was the sound financial logical choice over a dentist, being a regional Exec Manager for FedEx in Eastern Europe already.
Yet, it is unlikely she would have the decency to break her established cheating cycle and very likely would have continued her duplicitous liaison.
Hence, his forced staying in the island may have actually saved him: penitentiaries... and graveyards are chock-full of betrayed husbands.
Definitely, it's a most interesting analysis.
Well done. This certainly explains why it was much sadder when he lost Wilson than when he lost Helen Hunt. He had a better relationship with a volleyball than his girlfriend.
Agreed, but things could get rocky with Wilson as well, but in the end it's clear Wilson really got a kick out of his relationship with Chuck.
BROOO FAX this version of cast away blew my mind my whole family loves this film but now they’ll soon hate that HELEN HUNT
It's the Casablanca effect. The story gets better and better as your mind participates. It's the reason you'll watch a movie 100 times. It's a different movie each time when you consider the back stories and motivations.
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her reaction to chuck asking about the football team shows much relief that he wasn't going to address the most obvious question.
Definitely, it happens again in the scene with the Jeep when Kelly lowkey gaslighted him "You said you'd be right back" and Chuck said "I'm so sorry" there's a five second gap between these lines where Kelly's face drops like _"omg he's gonna call me out this time for sure"_ 😅 Great directing 👏
@@ExtraCheeseProject another thing not mentioned is that he talked about his dentist james spaulding, to wilson.. there is a theme of dentists. If notice at the end, betina had "cast away" the husband's name at the half of her sign overlooking the ranch. This would suggest both were cast away and would come together as one. Excellent takeaway from this you did.
@@spaghetti9845 Both excellent points, there's a followup video in the works which will cover this topic in depth, including a lot of the genius contributions I've had from the comments 😃 Thank you so much for the feedback and the insights!
The beginning with Benita’s character showed her husband cheating as well. So likely both characters (Chuck and Benita) are victims of infidelity.
Absolutely, there's gonna be a lot of baggage in that relationship if they get together after the credits 😬
@@ExtraCheeseProject I don’t get it, where did it show Kelly cheating?
@@patb00y It's more like the "Show Don't Tell" rule in writing; as in the film 'shows' the cheating through subtext instead of 'telling' the audience outright. (If you weren't sold by this video I'm working on the followup which provides more evidence.)
@@ExtraCheeseProject Yesss we need a followup video!! part 2
Everyone watching this movie for the second time watched for clues about red-haired pickup-driving Bettina, the greatest scene-stealer in the history of cinema. The actress died of cancer, may she rest in peace.
Actually makes alot of sense. After the meeting and he figures it all out. He seemingly is fine and ready to live and get the girl who really helped him off the island.
That fact always bothered me since watching this in a theatre. She got over him REAL quick.
Hmmm... I always thought the point of "Cast Away" was to advertise FedEX and Wilson Sports products.
And Bettina winged sculpture items.
I've always wondered about the time line too. He's gone for 4 years, comes back, and she has a 2 year old child...
She didn't waste much time.
I like this. I remember watching it - may not the very first time, but thinking, "wow Kelly got married and had a kid really fast"
The screenplay was written by William Broyles Jr who also wrote the screenplay for unfaithful.
case closed
So basically, the whole island thing is a metaphor. He was betrayed, he felt completely cut off from the world, lost, unable to pick himself up, isolated... and then he finally decides to get out of his madness, sets himself off to the world, and faces her after all that time. She kept their car, which had "a lot of good memories", and he takes that car, all those memories, and sets himself free. The other woman at the end, was only conceptualized on that island, during the isolation, and she didn't have a shape, but she was pure, thus the angel wings as a metaphor. And he finds that woman in the end at that crossroads. It is basically a story of a man who was lost and picked himself up, and found himself again.
I love this rundown 😮 Your insights about the car being totemic for the relationship's good memories - and Bettina's _formless/angelic_ nature - are incredibly perceptive and it's a shame I can't go back and include them in the follow-up video (link in the pinned comment) 😬
Right on man! I’ve been telling a version of this story for years. You got way more in depth than I. I always look at the time line. She goes from losing her fiancé in a horrific situation, deals with the grief, finally gets convinced to get out there again and go on a date with a dentist, keep dating him, fall in love, get married and have a child old enough to walk by herself, all in the span of 4 1/2 years!?! Freaking tramp! If I lost my wife (no matter how it happened) I’d be devastated for years. I couldn’t even imagine dating someone right away let alone marrying them.
Women are wired differently, all the values that men adhere to would mean absolutely nothing to women. They move on real quick unlike us men.
I would never trust a single word coming out of a woman's mouth.
AND was just about to leave the husband and daughter. And will now lie to her husband for the rest of their marriage about her love.
She was never his fiancée. It was implied that the box had an engagement ring but we never knew.
What happened to the ring?
Her lack of excitement when seeing him (at the start of the film) always made me feel uncomfortable.
Wow! I thought this movie was about a guy who survived a plane crash !
All these years and I never looked at Cast Away like this before. Boy do I feel stupid.
That's an interesting take on it that I hadn't even considered. My main focus was on the presentation of the survival instinct and the indomitable spirit of a man. Kelly just seemed an inconsequential subplot to me.
The only one that was loyal to Chuck in this movie was a Volleyball named WILSON.. Not gonna lie I got misty myself when Wilson got lost at sea and seeing Chuck upset
It's a powerful scene 😭
Time frames are tight but I can't outright call out an affair chronologically....but your evidence in the movie is impeccable....I yield. And am blown away by the revelation.
Would have been a nice paycheck to come home to, Plus finding out you don't have to share it and he got his truck back.. it's like a country song from an alternate universe.
Yeah ! Not one of those Dear John songs but a John Deere song
Wow, what a breakdown 😮 I never realised any of this.
I literally took this movie at face value all these years.
This movie hurts my soul. Seeing all that he went through, desperately trying to stay alive so he can return to her.
Finds out she has a life with someone else. You want to be mad at her but you can't, it isn't her fault. It's just so sad, it really had an impact on me. They did a great job putting this tragedy on screen.
I don't know about the cheating thing but if it's true, holy hell. What a mind fuck.
......................A lot of men return from war with similar results.
It's an interesting theory that works with the clues you've presented - and perhaps it was foreshadowed, or tied as a part of a motif with the couple at the beginning of the film (and the end) - where the first bit that is revealed is that a woman is sending a package to the other side of the world for her husband, who, unknown to her, is cheating on her. And this is the woman that Chuck finds his way to in the last scene. Maybe each of them were cast away by their partners, but it was all cosmic fate that the two of them would eventually find their way to each other. All because of FedEx.
Well said! _"All because of FedEx"_ I'd never considered FedEx as having this much causality in the film, but now that I consider about it, if FedEx paid for this film then the company is actually the closest thing to this narrative's 'metaphysical creator' (I mean, Chuck certainly treats the company like his God) 😅
bruh, you are criminally underrated mate. I'ma sue some fools for you - this some golllld. Ive been watching cast away for years, thinking it was just some survival movie- but dayum son. Solid
Thank you so much! There's a Part 2 to this coming right after the Breaking Bad video I'm working on is completed 😀
Typical narcissistic relationship, cheating on while being isolated
How .. she moved on as she thought he was dead.. please explain ur reasoning to this ?
@@drumsalivesorry but didn’t you watch the video? This is just me but if I truly loved someone, I’d wait longer than 5 years to get in a serious relationship.
No woman in this century will wait longer than a few months.
@@rickvanderstappen7771 just cause you don't find somebody who loves you doesn't mean the world is like that buddy.
the subtext is in the name of the movie. Cast Away... not castaway. Because after the plane crash everybody moved on with their lives. They cast him away because he was no longer there.
Which is that volleyballs make better companions than humans. Wilson was robbed of an Oscar for Best Non Human CoStar. 😊
@Vlasko60 Kinda always thought Voit would have been better, there was hardly any diversity in the film.
@Vlasko60 they screentested Spalding but he just didn’t have the same charisma.
When the movie came out my Brother-in-law pointed this out. He alerted me the title qas "Cast Away" and not "Castaway".
Two words not one.
" Accept the choices you've made. And, realize that there's no going back."
I tell myself that everyday
I was a child when I seen this movie and I asked my mother why didn't she wait?
This film, while very good, has always been deeply unsettling to me for reasons I couldn't quite put my finger on. This video has perfectly elucidated those reasons. Well done!
Very well said
Chuck was better off without her. A disastrous plane crash and years of survival mode made him a man, rather than a simp. Kelly was nothing special, in fact an opportunist. At least the fantasy of her kept him going. The reality of her was a necessary slap in the face to snap him out of it and move on.
He definitely came out of this a better/stronger person, but I'm still wondering whether the four years were really necessary, as Kelly and Chuck didn't seem to have a functioning relationship anyway; I explain in the follow-up video that Chuck's proposal feels more like an ultimatum* _"either we got married or it's finished."_
Well said.
Kelly also "blamed" Chuck to excuse her actions by saying to Chuck, "You said you'd be right back."
Yea. „Why did you allow this jet to crash? You’re such a loser! It’s your fault!“
Seems like an excuse a woman would use to deflect any responsibility.
@@dlm9477 And attempt to avoid accountability as well.
Bingo!
And Chuck is such a pathetic Simp that he actually apologized for an act of God that left him stranded on an island for five years.
It was only after I gotten older and now in a long term relationship with my fiancé that the fact she had kids so old already seemed off too me. My fiance and me would be heartbroken if something like that happened, I wouldn't be able to sleep with another woman for many years after that, and my fiance probably even longer. and thats when it clicked, the whole movie replayed in my head and I had to go see if anyone else thought that,
And when he loses Winston just before he's rescued, its reminding him that even your most trusted and loyal companion will desert you. But, you gotta keep going. It's preparing him for what's coming.
You mean Wilson?
@@williamavitt8264 "Winston" is better tbf 🧐
@@ExtraCheeseProject Ha! Winston IS better. Wilson was the brand name on the side of the ball.
Lol I dunno how anybody could make this movie sadder but you did it sir 🤣🤣👌👌
😭💀😅
Yeah he made Titanic now look like a ' Herbie goes........' kids movie in comparison
His island tan sure disappeared quickly on his plane ride back home.
He cast away that color cast. He said "Away, cast !!!" as he cast it away 😝
He spent time in the hospital undergoing numerous tests and it does not take long for a tan to disappear when you are inside a hospital for a couple of weeks
It was "4 weeks later".
She didn't just "meet a new guy and move on quickly". She "coincidentally" met and married a man who "happened" to be Hanks' dental surgeon? If it had just been some random new guy that Kelly met, that's one thing. But she met and married Hanks' doctor. Note that it wasn't Hanks' friend or relative who would have been in a position to join Kelley in her mourning over losing Hanks which could have led to their new-found relationship. It was Hanks' doctor. The coincidence is too much and supports the previous affair theory.
Well said! 👏
The nerve on the doctor saying
"Hi i did root canal for you five years ago" And then 'stole' his GF a year later
This fkng movie man
The first time I saw Castaway was with an ex-girlfriend. I had told her that Kelly did not love Chuck. She gave me the whole spiel about how Kelly told him he was the love of her life. I told her it was an act of desperation. How she would have abandoned the life she resents if Chuck had been stupid enough to say he felt the same way. Chuck knew. Otherwise he would not have told her to go back inside.
It's just like Sleepless In Seattle not being a sweet rom-com but rather a macabre thriller about a mourning male widow being pursued by an unhinged female stalker with the aid of the grieving man's malevolent son.
LOL!
You are correct, she was exploring her option with Chuck at the end of that scene, hoping for another ship to jump to, but now he know who she is, and he rejected her. Strong dude at that point.
Chuck was a simp. A week away from getting dumped, but then ends up missing in plane crash. Kelly, saddened, but also life became clear for her with Lovett. She didn’t have to dump Chuck and the runway was clear for a soft landing with Lovett. It couldn’t be more perfect for her. She had lot’s of sympathy, and it just looked like she moved on. No one was the wiser, and no one would find out about her duplicity. Great video!!!
she gave him his car back BUT why didnt she give him the ring back?
I mean he gave her the watch back
I actually address this in the follow-up video (link in the pinned comment) with my conclusion being that she sold the engagement ring for gas money to drive Chuck's Jeep 😬
IMHO, it's also an allegory for Vietnam vets, especially the POWs. They crossed the Pacific to do their duty, survived explosions, went through hell to get home, then learned their woman ran off with a guy with a better job. Their war ended not with a bang but a whimper ("Kill me"). After some quick Thank-you-for-your-service (the awkward hotel party), everybody moved on.
There's a lot to unpack here, but there is a 'trope' of servicemen getting cheated on in film/TV - The Thin Red Line (1998), Jarhead (2005), and Generation Kill (2008) to name a few - so I think an unfortunate takeaway is that if Chuck had been in the services instead of a system's analysis for FedEx it would be taken as read that Kelly was cheating on him 😔
I think she was "Cast Away". Neither of them were committed to the relationship. Everything was Cast Away except one package that was delivered. The man maintains his integrity but nothing else.
Interesting theory 🧐 A few commenters have said that Chuck actually rejected Kelly in the end, because when she says "Chuck" it feels like she's about to come clean, but he interrupts her "you need to go home" we'll never know for certain though 😬
I agree, I had a feeling there was something going on and even mentioned it to my then wife, she blew it off as my over active imagination. We're now divorced because that same imagination didn't like the idea of her often taking several hours to get home from work 20 min away and never letting me see her phone. There was a lot more than that but you get the idea.
I'm sorry to hear that 😔 One of the things I cover in the followup video is how good people may have bad things happen/done to them, but at least they're _good_ people, so they still have the opportunity to live a _good_ life; being a bad person is often its own punishment 😬 I'll let you know here when the followup video is posted 🙂
I have a tee shirt brother! Hooking up with a guy I arrested for theft 10 years prior...
Well done. My only objection concerns the phrase "making an honest woman out of her," which is commonly used to refer to marrying her and does not indicate infidelity.
Thank you! If you watch the follow-up video (link in the pinned comment) I do go over this dinner table scene some more 😅
I absolutely agree with you. I always had a problem with how easily she moved on.
Every woman watching totally did not.
Well the "fake smile" is the same smile Helen Hunt uses in every role she has ever played, but still interesting.
I haven't seen Helen Hunt in anything else but from this film I know that she's capable of different smiles: like when she was relieved that Chuck didn't call her out and instead asked about Football, or her nervous grin when Chuck asked her about not being a professor, or in almost every family photo in the kitchen she has a big teethy grin, and she had a huge joyful grin when she gave him back his Jeep 😁
Damn dude, I thought it was a movie about a volleyball.
The movie that at its core is about a man being taught through years of stress, struggle and pain unlike any his life had previously shown him, how to see what if anything truly matters in this world. Well.... Now I will never look at Fed-Ex the same again.... thank you, truly.
I'm still waiting for my volleyball
Kelly's past relationship was with a convict lol talk about a red flag. Run men when you hear that.
It's like the book of Jonah, where everyone focuses on the great fish, and they miss the real message.
Spot on! 👏
Yup, great analysis! I saw this movie a looong time ago, so I really didn't see it this way. I have to say though, it always seemed odd the way she responded, smiled, just her body language in general. I never figured it out, but it makes perfect sense now. Great job!
Thank you so much! 😃
I’m wondering if her responses are just classic Helen Hunt? She has always had that stiff look and forced smile in about everything I’ve seen her in. I do like the analysis though, quite plausible.
@@tgbluesky I addressed Helen Hunt's acting in the follow-up video (link in the pinned comment) and concluded that you could replace Helen Hunt with emojis and still get the _intended_ emotions across 😅 Thank you for the feedback! 😃
How much of this subtle dishonest subtext is just Helen Hunt being a mediocre actress?
Rough. But true.
That's what I was thinking too. 😂
I used to thin that too but she is outstanding in this movie.
The look in her face when Chuck gives her the engagement ring, the look of guilt and pity as he watches the pathetic Chuck sleeping-knowing what she was about to do, the wan smile she gives him.
Brilliant, subtle performance.
I didn’t miss it, I suddenly worked out why my son liked it so much though. It’s his mother’s story. Sometimes Absence makes the heart grow fonder, sometimes it makes it go wonder!
The silver lining is that he meets that one lady at the end of the movie. Maybe in cast away 2 they will get married😂
😆 _'Cast Away 2: Cast Away THIS'_ - Chuck and Bettina find the Zoltar Machine and Chuck gets to be small again 😭
And the cowboy back with some milk
I didn't miss it at all when I watched the movie. In fact, this movie pissed me off so much that I have only seen it once. The same with The Terminal and Forrest Gump. Seems like Tom Hanks' characters always fall in love with atrocious women that test my nerves.
At least Carrie Fisher in The Burbs (1989) was good otherwise there's definitely a trend.
Even in Saving Private Ryan he just wants to get back to his good wife, but ends up dying.
I got it too, and thought she was a scum for moving on and having a kid with another man so quickly.
Also both Forrest Gump and Cast Away are Robert Zemekis films. 😮
Jenny was worse.
Another piece of symbolism is Chuck crying & being in pain when he losses Wilson on the raft... that's what a man feels when he losses his womans love. Wilson was a displaced scapegoat for Chucks love for Kelly... due to letting that pain out there & going through the numbness is what allowed him to let her go when they reunited.
Brilliant! 💯
So now im confused....she said "she always knew he was alive" and kept all the search maps. But at the same time she moved on to another man, had a baby, marriage, mortgage so fast.. She said "you are the love of my life"...none of this makes sense now lol. But i still love this movie!!! Watched this after 10 years not seen😊
lol Understandable 😆 At least I can point out that the search maps and magazines were only from Chuck's rescue (working backwards to locate the island on that map was probably copied straight from the news coverage). Also, based on all of her complaints about her current life (i.e. big mortgage, daughter's a handful, she's unsure if they'll have more kids), I infer that _"You are the love of my life"_ is meant literally; Chuck only represents becoming a professor and living the life she wanted.
I'm working on a followup to this video, it's shaping up to be a 'deep dive' and -hopefully- it'll make some sense of the betrayal theme 😅 I've made a note to reply to your comment when it's out (about a month or so) 👍
@@ExtraCheeseProject great! subscribed! Thank you!
Modern love addiction.
My booty call tells me she loves me despite having a bf 😅, women dude women
Maybe you’re right, maybe you’re not. I’m sticking with my original view of it, that being she wasn’t cheating. The reunion at the end seals it for me. Great video though and I’ll definitely check some others out.