Why did Denmark gain land after WW1 despite being neutral? (Short Animated Documentary)
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- Denmark didn't get involved in World War One. Despite this, after Germany's defeat, Denmark was given northern Schleswig. So why? Why did a nation that did nothing get free land from a defeated foe?
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Countries refusing land that is pretty much given to them by force isn't something we see very often in history
Poisoned Fruit go brrr...
The Danish probably realized Germany would come knocking for it again at some point
But it was propably the best move possible. Even during the occupation of WW2 Germany did in fact not reannex that land. Its was literally the only treaty of versailles border change nazi germany did not change.
@@noobster4779 Maybe, because that was the only border change, that was actual fair.
@@noobster4779 *yet
Denmark refusing to annex more territory despite being pressured to has got to be the most mature diplomatic action taken by any nation at Versailles
I would take it.
Honestly a bit surprised that a nation at that time period decided to hold up its morals and ideals of self determination. I guess it makes sense since Denmark didn't really have any place in the sun, so they could afford to do so without crippling themselves against foreign powers.
Thats also the reason why nazi germany didnt annex northern schleswig back after the occupation of denmakr, it dit annex eupen-malmedy back from belgium
Nice one 👍
It was very pragmatic indeed. Unlike when one plays EU4 or Victoria II, annexing a bunch of Germans for map painting in the real world is a recipe for trouble. The fact Denmark was able to remain unoccupied until 1943 during WW2 proved their pragmatism was worthwhile.
“The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert, who is dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I have forgotten all about it.” - Lord Palmerston
I would have thought that a Samuel Johnson quote but he was born too early
It is pretty easy actually. The personal union between the Denmark and the German duchies, was based on HRE law and treaties between the Danish crown and the HRE that these territories would not be united with Denmark. However the HRE was dissolved so the Danish king did no believe himself to be bound by these treaties and laws. However the German Confederation proclaimed itself to be de jure succesor of the HRE as a representative of the "German nation" the actual name of the HRE was (Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation) and so did not accept that an outside state like Denmark could annex German territory and German subjects through declaring HRE treaties void.
Take also to account the fact that that nationalism started to rise in Germany (in 1848 nationalism was a liberal thing). The liberal kind of nationalism of the day believed that countries should be based on nationalities and not of the self proclaimed dynastic rights of kings and nobels.
So now both the liberals and the conservatives of the German states agreed that Slesvig-Holstein should not be annexed by Denmark, and they both had some good arguments for it.
Meanwhile for the Danish kind, it all was a matter of prestigem and similarly for the Danish people. Also these areas was pretty rich and industrialisation had started in the southern parts.
Also it was matter of security an creating som strategic depth against an invasion. Alot of other countries supported this since Denmark was a small state that controlled the Öresund. They did not want a German great power state controlling such an strategically important area.
@@henrik3291to further complicate things, Schleswig was predominantly danish and Denmark would not be willing to give it up, whilhe Holstein was predominantly German and the German were never going to give it up, but the regions and its people were culturally and economically very tied together and even had a law saying they could never be split from another. So yes, very much an unsolvable problem
I know it can seem a bit like Denmark got the land out of the blue, but it’s important to note that the Danish minority in Germany indirectly “fought” for it. 30.000 danes were conscripted to the German army. If they refused, they would have to flee to Denmark, effectively giving their land up to German settlers, thus making it more and more unlikely that the annexed territory would ever return to Denmark. The conscripted Danes would therefore often choose to fight, so their ancestral home wouldn’t be lost.
My family was one such family. My great grandmother lost five of her six brothers in a year and a half, they were used like cannon fodder. Southern Jutland was returned to Denmark, but imagine what trauma like this can do to a people. Out of the 30.000 conscripted Danes, 7.000 were killed in action, and many more were mentally and physically wounded. Losing a generation of men like this affects the region in ways to this day.
As a Finn this sounds like you got off the war with 98hp left
A little reminiscent of Alsace, which suffered heavily in WW2 because it got annexed to Germany and its men of military age conscripted into The Wehrmacht.
Damn
@@alanpennie8013 they were mostly german speaking ppl with the same culture what are you talking about. not at all the same thing
@@piuthemagicman ... out of _What?_ A hundred? A thousand? 2748? 9999? Twenty? As someone who plays a lot of video games that reads _VERY INCOMPLETE._
As a side-note; Denmark was offered southern Schleswig again by the allies after WW2, but it was decided that the referendum from 1920 would remain valid.
Probably the best decision: If Denmark had annexed Southern Schleswig and Holstein after WWI or WWII, Denmark would probably look different today. The German state of Schleswig-Holstein today has 2.8 million inhabitans, while Denmark has 5.8 million inhabitans. If we take these numbers for sake of simplicity and if Schleswig-Holstein belonged to Denmark nowadays, 2.8 milion of total 8.6 million Danish citizens (one third!) would be German-speaking.
These germanophone people would demand autonomy, representation and all this stuff. It would be a kind of Danish South Tyrol - but South Tyrol on steroids. :O
/e: Since several people argued that the Germans would have been expelled:
a) Expelling the Germans would have left parts of Schleswig very thin populated. Unlike the Russian people or the Polish people (which was expelled from Eastern Poland itself) the Danish people is not that large to re-populate the region quickly.
b) Expelling the Germans would have caused revisionism in Germany against Denmark and demands to revise the border, just like there were in our timeline against Poland and the Soviet Union after 1945.
Keep in mind: After the World Wars it was unclear how long the peace would last and how new fractions in another war would look like. In 1940 it had become obvious: In case of war Denmark has hardly any geographical defense a German army, thats why they surrendered after six hours. Unlike Poland Denmark did not have an "alliance" with the Soviet Union as support after 1945.
@@dabbasw31 Mind explaining what is going on with South Tyrol?
@@dabbasw31 I mean at least Danish and German are sort of mutually intelligible.
Ok yeah I was wrong with that, guess I shouldn’t have assumed that the two languages were similar without knowing a lick of Danish and very rudimentary German.
@@pocketmarcy6990 Not really, no.
@@dabbasw31 the Germans would've been deported dude
> stays neutral during the whole war
> walks into peace conference
> asks for northern Schleswig
> is offered the whole peninsula
> refuses to expand further
> leaves
Chad denmark
North Schleswig is and has traditionally been Danish. Was stolen by Germans, 1864. In WWI, Schleswig Danes were forced into the German army, to shoot at people whose side they would rather have been on. Including Danes were forced by Germans to shoot at Danes who'd volunteered for the British Allies. --main source, older Danish family friend, Dr. Poul Kirketerp.
@@carlcushmanhybels8159 deserved for volunteering for the br*tish
> Refuses to elaborate any further.
> reject every single offer at after WW2
> refuse to elaborate any further
the paper board at 1:39 with denmarks proposed borders encircling berlin was the funniest joke to ever come out of this channel for me
Border looks like something straight out of EU4
I'am a dane living in that region and my grandmother lost 1 uncle and his son fighting for germany. Her own father survived the war and its a good story.
Before going to france to fight for the germans his mother sew a Dannebrog(the danish flag) in the chest side of his jacket. When he was hiding in a shell hole on the front, he would only peek his head up to see if there was germans or french around. When the french made a big attack and the germans fell back, he surrende to the french and when he was taking back to be a prisoner. He revealed to a officer his Flag under his jacket, He was put in a danish prisoner camp and sailed to england where he spent the rest of the war.
Many danish men were forced to fight for the germans and many never came back.
Thanks for sharing! I was born in Denmark to American teacher parents. An older Danish family friend told me of the Danes drafted by the Occupier Germans into WWI; forced to fight for the Germans who'd stolen their homeland of North Schleswig.
Nobody was "Forced" they had almost 50 years of time to leave our country and go back to Jutland where they belong to.
Do you know his name? Just so I can do more research on this interesting story?
Jeg er også dansk
@@Rex1987 Kan ikke huske fornavnet så det skal jeg lige sprøge om i morgen ved de gamle. Min familie er fra sønderborg og du kan godt kontakte mig hvis du vil vide lidt mere.
Schleswig should be part of Denmark
Germany could Recognize that and return it.
It's unfortunate Denmark lost it for so long
I love how Denmark asked for a certain amount of land, and Britain just says, "TAKE. MORE. "
It’s the British thing to do
the british allways liked to mess around on the continent
@@ISAF_Ace Well except when it's for France, in that case " France can't have nice things " is the policy
Like a grandma forcing you to eat more food
@@ozymandias3329
lol
Easiest win of our history
Oh hello there
indeed
Rejecting more land
Germany might think the same about the 6 hour war Bo :p
YOOOO
Fun fact: The first time Germany actually recognised the new border was during in 1940, when the German occupiers agreed to "maintain" Danish sovereignty, and to do that they had to recognise the border of 1920
Fun fun fact. The Danish Government made a non-aggression agreement with Germany in 1938 after the takeover of Czhechoslovakia, fearing that they would restore the pre 1920 border.
The non-aggression pact is why Denmark did absolutely nothing when they spotted the military build up near the border in 1940. Even on the evening before the Invasion on 9th of April the soldiers were made to stay in their barracks to not start a war with the Germans. Leading to the completely run over with minimal resistance and complete surrender after about 6 hours.
@@TrashskillsRS Yes, but Denmark knew they stood no chance against the German juggernaut. Danes did what they could first to maintain as much 'independence' as they could despite being conquered. Behind the scenes, Danish Resistance (including family friends) built so it became by August 1943 (a national strike...) one of the most effective Resistance movements in WWII. E.g., tipped off by a friend in the German Occupation govt, the Danish Resistance successfully spirited almost all 10,000 Danish Jews to ostensibly 'neutral' Sweden. The 400 who were captured the Danes mailed many many support packages of food and clothes to Theresianstadt Conentration Camp. They were surprised the German P.O. delivered them (at a Nazi imposed exchange rate that bled millions $ into the Nazi war effort.)
@@TrashskillsRS they did it because they had no chance anyway. they would have been a landing bridge for the allies and they were given the options to cooperate with germany or being invaded. they took the nicest form of invasion since they could pretend unwillingness in case of a lost german war.
@@lionlepine2945 Well on the actual build up in April, it was because they thought they would march into the area they did not recognize as Danish and claim it back.
So the King ordered to not provoke the Germans at the Southern Jutland border to give them a real justification to walk in.
It was only during the actual invasion when they also landed in Copenhagen and attacked the Kings palace that he was like okay.. I guess it was the entire Denmark.. so we surrender.
@@TrashskillsRScould you provide your sources behind that statement?
Fun fact: In the London-conference during the Second Schleswig War, Bismarck offered Denmark to cede land to almost the same point where the border is today
Bismarck promised to hold a referendum in North Schleswig when he made peace with Austria in 1866 (Peace of Prague, article 5).
But he never did, probably from fear of German public opinion.
German national liberalism always maintained fiercely that The Duchies should never be partitioned.
Denmark: "Hey, can I have Schleswig back now that you've beaten Germany?"
France: "HOW DARE YOU!!"
Denmark: "B-but it's our ancestral lands?"
France: "I know, you should be ASKING FOR MORE!"
its more complicated than that. it was part of both often enough, though both existing in different forms. *Schleswig
@Defender of Flop They why did the Central part vote to remain with Germany
@@jasonjason6525 German immigration and Danish emigration after 1864. A city like Flensborg went from 20k people being majority Danish to 60k people and majority German.
Slesvig is danish
@@kamilasrokova3328 Nope, it was German Cultural influence rather than immigration way before 1860s. The Monarchy, Nobilty and Upperclass Spoke German before they Switched to Danish due to the rise of Nationalism.
Fun fact: Northern Schleswig was the only German territory in Europe taken by the treaty of Versailles that Germany wouldn’t re-annex during WW2
Evidence suggests that if Germany had won, Denmark and Norway would have been integrated into the Greater German Reich. Denmark was key to the Baltic and Norway's resources extremely valuable.
Germany was pretty nice to Denmark (and Norway) during the whole of the war. If you were to live in German-occupied Europe, that was pretty much the place to be.
Another (not so) fun fact: Denmark fell to Nazi Germany in under 6 hours.
To more clearly explain what he means. He means that during occupation of Denmark N*zi Germany didn't re-integrate Northern Schleswig into the Administration of Germany. Instead, it was administered as a part of the Danish Reichskommissariat in 1943-1945. Before 1943 the Democratically elected parliament of Denmark was in charge of Northern Schleswig along with the rest of Denmark (just under German "Protection")
@@xgcsurreal2608 thanks!
I live in the South of Denmark, and the first thing that came to my mind was that a boarder further South, would be a bit annoying, especially when I have to go across to shop cheap beer 🤣
@@gamerdrache6076 Berlin ist Türkish. Die meissten Deutscher in Holstein einwanderte nach 1864., genau wie die Türken in Berlin nach 1970
I guess we all have our priorities. LOL!
Denmark was not the only one not wanting a piece of Germany/Austria. Edvard Beneš negotiating on behalf of Czechoslovakia didn't want parts of Sudetenland because of the Germans living there threating the 'Czechness' of the country down the road, so similar to the Danish reasoning. That was even the reason to have the Slovaks in the state in the first place, to have more non-Germans. But he didn't have enough support at home to resist the French pressure to take those lands.
Of course twenty years later, Sudetenland was overwhelmingly skewing towards the Nazis, so Beneš (now president of Czechoslovakia) wanted to give a part (cca 8000 km2) to Hitler provided many more Germans were moved from Bohemia to Germany as well (accomplishing what he wanted in Versailles). This was secretly communicated to the French via Czech minister Nečas (the so-called Nečas mission/Fifth Plan) two weeks before the Munich Agreement. This was high treason on the part of Beneš since border issues were the domain of the parliament, not the president. Which is why he vehemently denied any of this until his death. We only know about it firsthand because of surviving Beneš's handwritten orders to Nečas that the minister didn't destroy afterwards. It also caused a huge rift in the French government, because several ministers wanted to publish the plan so as not to look like France was abandoning its allies (France and Czechoslovakia had a long-lasting military cooperation, unlike Britain that had no formal allegiance to Czechoslovakia). President Daladier however acquiesced to Beneš's wish of keeping it a secret.
Unfortunately, when the Allies conveyed it to Hitler, he smelled weakness and pressed for even territory, which led to the Munich Agreement or as we Czechs call it, the Munich Betrayal. But the fact we were also betrayed by our own president is hardly known.
That must be why the Czech occupied it even before the war was over and peace treaties hadn't even started yet.
Benes wanted to deport and expulse almost all Germans from the rest of the Czech territory.
In the end his dream came true, without giving out pseudo territorial concessions.
karma was bitch though, and he accidentally fell out of a window=).
@@boerekableto my knowledge Benes wasn't especially alone with his wishes of expulsion German minorities..
Czech Parliament made the plans exiled in London, and executed the whole soon after peace were established.
The French must take on a lot of responsibility for the crap that Versailles was. Assholes.
@@boerekable was the karma speaking Dostoevski's language? I kinda feel she was
"The Danish government refused to annex these lands" caught me off guard
Rise, O Voices of Rhodesia
Denmark is that kid who refuses more food for polite reasons
The UK and France wanted that to happen.
IT increased tensions.
A government using common sense and considering the long-term consequences is indeed rare.
Its called being a good nation filled with good and kind people who aren't expansionist bastards like the majority of the world.
I am sincerely surprised there isn't a british comedy sketch starring probably Stenen Fry or Rowan Atkinson where Danish representatives ask for a piece of land and English and French representative decline, because they want to give them more.
Seriously, this is absolutely classic material.
I can fix you up if you want...
You have seen therir "Treaty of Westphalia" skit?
It would fit an episode of Blackadder very well.
Seems more David Mitchell than Stephen Fry but agreed
And either way, you get a flabbergasted Hugh Laurie pulling faces and exclaiming "MORE land??!?!?"
England and France: "Take more!"
Denmark: "No thank you."
England and France: "Take moar, you idiot!"
Denmark: "Okay, we will let the people decide with a referendum."
England and France: **heavy sighing**
27 years later: England and France: [says nothing despite Germany in WWII was even worse than Germany in WWI, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, and Bulgaria combined]
1:47 "make sure Germany could never wage war on such a scale ever again"
Well that didn't work out very well now did it
As a matter of fact, it gone worse
To add a bit more complexity from the point of a Dane: The refusal of more territory was a highly controversial and decisive one, with the social liberal government taking the geo strategic view, that taking any more land from Germany than what could be democraticly justified would be stupid since Germany would seek revenge later.
The Conservative and Liberals in opposition definitely wanted to take more land, and this all lead to the ‘Easter Crisis’ in with the King, who also wanted to annex more land, effectively couped the government. This almost lead to a revolution, which could have toppled the monarchy, but the king later backed down.
to be fair. I appreciate it very much that Denmark actually lived by the democratic standards that it has, even if it meant that Denmark stays smaller. it was a major problem that Britain and France clamed to be more liberal and democratic than Germany but whenever it suited their interests they just didn't care about democratic decisions. It made many Germans distrust democracy since many decisions after the first world war were clearly against the will of the people living in these areas or the people were simply not asked. A good example would be the national assemblies held in the borderlands or bohemia (Sudeten) which were just ignored by the western powers.
Yeah, the king fired the government, then realized there was a hole in the constitution and he needed a government to hold an election, so he took the government back he had fired and everybody agreed to pretend that never happened.
So that was what the "Easter crisis" was about. I couldn't piece the puzzle together, but you finally made it clear!
Danish history, and Northern European history in general, is very interesting to me. I may be romanticizing it a bit, but it seems they only fight when absolutely necessary and for idealic reasons and not for profit...after the viking period of course.
@@Osterochse Britain and France were 100% right about keeping Germany weak being a good idea though. Though you could argue that was a self-fulfilling prophecy, since anger over that was one thing driving the Nazis' rise.
James Bisonette owns central and southern Schleswig, and the Danes know not to anger him as it may incur his wrath.
I'm more worried about Spinning Three Plates' reaction.
Mon empereur!
Kelly Moneymaker
Not if Boogaly-Woogaly has something to say about it.
Hvor herrer bevares
Lord Palmerston once said: "Only three people have ever really understood the Schleswig-Holstein business - the Prince Consort, who is dead - a German professor, who has gone mad, - and James Bisonette."
Unfortunately there is no real evidence that he did. Either because he said it so often that no-one actually noted when he said it. Or because he never said it.
"Unless you are Swedish, in that case, get out" hillarious stuff 🤣
// a Swede
Please do so, while you're still capable of walking 🍻🍻
"King Frederick was childless and did the only thing that childless kings aren't supposed to do: He died"
I know it's been said a billion times in every comment section, but this channel's educational black comedy is always on point.
Then stop saying it
You mean.... dark comedy....
He died, as so many did, with a loud thump!
These are always among my favourite moments 😂
@@SpecOps140 black is dark
@@idoit5067 No fucking shit. But there's no such thing as black comedy unless a literal black comedian is what OP was referring to
The Sigma grindset of gaining territory without doing anything for it is real
Just wait until you learn about Bulgaria's sigma grindset of gaining territory despite losing the war
And then refusing to take more
@@paradoxicalpotato8927 Sauce?
US expansionism in the Pacific: first time?
@@yourneighbourhooddoomer The video
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When its not about rewarding Denmark its about punishing Germany.
I dont see how this could backfire.
*A wild Moustache Man appears*
You underestimate nations' ability to twist facts and play victim exaggeratedly
It didn't backfire, for some reason Hitler did not take back the lands after he occupied Denmark
@@cv4809 He would have probably if they took everything
@@cv4809 for the reason that the regarded the danish-german border as the only just german border. danish people behaved fair and didnt rob germany nor were they germans (like austrians).
"Guys stop giving me more territory than I needed to!"
- Denmark
“..Unless it’s Scania.”
One of my ancestors left Denmark because of the events leading up to the German-Danish War in 1863 only to immigrate to the United States who were also in a war, the Civil War at the time. The town they were from Aabenraa was taken and later returned back to Denmark.
No way! That's literally my home town! 😊😂
@@oliverboisen7475 hey maybe we're cousins haha
Fun fact: The majority of people in Aabenraa actually voted to stay as part of Germany. They still ended up as part of Denmark though
I'd love to hear you pronounce Aabenraa with your American accent haha
@@marctorp7256 I would pronounce it a - ben - ra . How is it pronounced
Leaving them with only one option…Discussion… with each other… on how they were going to crush Denmark in a war… I love this channels humor.
Smart move to avoid internal tension.
Better to live in a smaller and cohesive contry than a big and unstable one.
Turkey should have done the same.
@@hawk992 They did for the most part.
Smarter move would be to take the land for free and sell it off to the highest bidder.
@@brandonlyon730 That would make some disgusting borders lol
Lots of countries have multiple ethnic and linguistic communities though, some via territories acquired through wars. You just strike down any internal tension afterwards, or assimilate them.
For the population of Southern Jutland the war experience was very different from that of the population of neutral Denmark north of the Kongeåen, the river that formed the border between Germany and Denmark until 1920.
During the First World War Southern Jutland, from 1864 a part of Germany, and regardless of national sentiment, they were conscripted into the German military. A total of some 30,000 young men from Southern Jutland served in the German military at some point during the war. For this reason Southern Jutland experienced the war from the perspective of a belligerent nation.
Young men from Southern Jutland fought as part of the German military all over the world including the Western Front, the Eastern Front, the Balkans, Africa,
hey i see you on every history topic giving us valueble information and i want to say you thank you for that
@@siddharthchauhan3661 thanks man
Yes. My family on my father's side came from the area and had a couple of cousins that never came back from the war. Curiously they were german-speakers but had been pro-denmark since before the Prussian annexations, viewing it as the more liberal and free nation. My dad's uncle, who I never met as he died before I was born (but my dad still tells stories of him), still lived in the area and would spend his days cursing "the damn Prussians" for dragging his family into unwanted wars for imperial glory.
i was about to write this lol
I appreciate the information. I’m a Dane transplanted to US and didn’t know this. Again, thank you sir!
My goodness I love history, beuacracy at a distance, and relations of governments. Especially how you share all this. Keep it up, dude!
A very nice video. On the other hand, I would add that the North Frisians, a separate ethnic group that lives on the west coast of southern Schleswig, somehow fell by the wayside here. In some graphs they were assigned to either the Danes or the Germans.
Sprechst sie Dialekt?
@@seronymus Bedingt, ja. Allerdings nicht auf hohem Niveau, da meine Großeltern es nicht weitergegeben haben.
@@Ballum_64 Bitte lerne und recherchiere mehr und gib es an deine Kinder weiter, bitte, als Ami sind viele von uns neidisch auf das lokale Erbe.
France and England trying to force Denmark to take more land against its will is the geopolitical equivalent of
"Eat your vegetables, young man!"
In this case it's more eat your giant burger with burnt bacon and a side of anthrax. Having such a large german minority would not be good for Denmark's internal stability back then.
Or maybe "eat your jalapeno pineapple pizza, old man!"
@@Unknownmonkey13 might also have been why the germans under ww2 was nicer to us compared to other occupied countries.
@@frederikjrgensen252 That woulf be the 6h surrender(Not critcising, good move)
@@Unknownmonkey13 It is debated a lot in Danish history classes whether it was good move. But I would say that Denmark not taking big slice of German lands certainly contributed to how they were treated compared to other countries.
Because Germany can't have nice things, but more seriously because north Shleswig was still mostly Danish
Alsace Lorraine was also mostly German speaking but It didn't stop the French from claiming it after 1871
@@citywokbesitzer6834 That may be true, but It was close to half
@@citywokbesitzer6834 That is correct, but we also have to take into consideration the policy of the Empire especially in Lorraine to suppress French.
@@citywokbesitzer6834 German speaking!=
German
@@luisandrade2254 I mean - that's how you usually divide ethnicity - language.
I am, as a Dane, concerned that I have never learnt this in 23 years despite it taking 3 minutes to explain
Your problem is you didn't listen. Self centered is your problem.
I love this channel so much, these explanations of the more obscure history topics are the best! 😄
Sorry for giving information about this, but I am still griefing. I am Danish, and my father passed away 4 days ago now. He had a very big interest in history and would always talk about this topic in his history lessons at home and at school. You making a video about this feels like you honored him in some way. Thank you so much.
Hope you are alright
Ι am sorry for your loss.
Really sorry to hear this. Hoping this video will continue to bring some happy memories of your dad to mind
@@knw8549 I am thank you
@@staserstaa1969 Thank you
The newspaper at 2:40 is a gem. As is the flowchart at 0:38.
Props for cutting through the Schleswig-Holstein question, Lord Palmerston would be proud.
I am a nerd of Royal Genealogies and I swear to you the Danish one is probably the funniest. Even more than France's with like 20 Louis. And the funniest thing is that it's still a thing, the current Crown Prince is Frederick and his son is Christian.
@@Nikki-tx6kh Well it somehow makes sense to be a Christian and a bringer of peace, but since you cannot be Christian and Frederick at the same time you have to alternate it.
Louis are the proud warriors. Karl/Carl/Charles are all connected to Charlemagne the first Holy Roman Emperor... It is all very symbolic. You would even take on the royal name like Jean Bernadotte that became Gustav XIV John of Sweden. John being "graced by god", which is why a couple of popes took that name...
Thanks to you for pointing out, I definitely had a good laugh with "...Scania, soon, my friend, soon..."
@@Nikki-tx6kh Because Margaret II, whose Dad was Frederick and only had daughters (the law was changed to allow female inheritance if there were no sons), decided she was going to be a "Christian", so to speak.
@@silenthunteruk I do now that, as I say, I am a Royal Families Nerd. I wonder if he would have named Margaret, Christina/ Christiana, had he known she was going to be the heiress.
I definitely love your animations and the posting sign messages xD
The way you tell history is obviously unique.
I like how your videos have improved a lot over time
Good job with the content
Denmark: Excuse me sirs, I understand you all lost so much in this war, and we didn't, but would it be possible, while you're redrawing borders, for assuredly the last time, for us to reclaim some of our lost lands as well? You see, we have some historical precedence and treaties from decades ag-
France and Britain: You're going to receive that land and far more, or we'll stuff them down your throat!!
Denmark:
Denmark: USA, help me!
USA: European Politics are weird...
@@shorewall USA: Manifest Destiny intensifies
@@Sebastian-dc2qg *oversimplified intensifies*
Finaly a meme like comment 😆👍
Denmark: The only country in history who had to be defended by the United States to prevent being bullied into territorial acquisition.
No that is not true!
United States doesn’t protect anyone,they invaded countries and sell their weapons around the world.
See Mexico,they stole them half of land,and lately Iraq was destroyed by their invasion during 10 years and no one said anything
It is such a crazy situation I wonder if anything remotely similar has happened before or after
@@NotTheGreenKnight Interestingly, after Denmark was captured, the British occupied Iceland. The British did not want Iceland so they got the USA to occupy it. The USA did not know what to do with Iceland, so asked the people there what they wanted. Iceland voted for independence from Denmark. Iceland was kinda poor, so after the war the USA gave them some money and left.
@@willw8011 the independence for Iceland was a ongoing process that was started around the turn of the cnetury.
The then current agreement was planned to be revived in the early 1940ties where the Icelandish population was going to decide if they wanted full independence our some sort of relation with Denmark.
@@yanettebw8754 -
I am Mexican. We lost our land because our PEOPLE barely made up any of the population of the territories North of the Rio. People ultimately mark National borders, not political lines. 20,000 Mexicans simply could not control a territory next to a country which invaded with more soldiers than locals and a population of 17 million. Not stolen, conquered in war, after bleeding for it. More Americans died than Mexicans. And due to the ignorance of the Freemasonic Liberal Santa Anna, whose lack of virtue cost Mexico Texas due to his cruelty, the war was lost because Mexico did not united under such a man. And now, Mexicans live in their old lands in the millions.
And many, many people said something about Iraq, where terrorists died en mass after the fall of Saddam's government. Iraq was a rotten biscuit - Full of hidden maggots. It is extremely regrettable what happened to this country - But Saddam also had a massive army. Modern warfare proved that such an army was never a threat. Iraq was a horrific mistake of the entire world - Most of Europe joined as well, as well as many NATO countries. Iraq was the world's mistake, not just America's.
We must be humble when studying history.
2:40 pure comedy gold
1:39 How hadn't I noticed until NOW that part of the land they "wanted to give" was to completely surround Berlin?
You know a similar thing happened with San Marino during the Napoleonic wars when Napoleon insistently offered them to take as much land as they wanted from their Italian neighbors and tiny mountain trapped San Marino basically said, "Thank you, but no."
Why would they do that :I
@@seronymus cause then they would be wiped out sooner if napoleon got defeated
@@Scourgeoftengri If they accepted the deal they would've gotten wiped out because napoleon lost.
It was a long term decision since San Marino still exists.
As a Dane living in the parts that voted to return to Danmark, I can tell that the local Danes see it as a matter of pride that we voted to be Danish. So much that when a entertain from Copenhagen changed a part of one of our songs about it, many of the locals in these parts become very upset.
I can understand that. I would think it's similar to how many naturalized immigrants feel about their new country. They aren't just citizens because they were born there, but because they made great effort to get there, and endured sacrifices and hardships to become a citizen.
I think what Danish people have done was so wise and just. we take ours and you take yours end of the story. unlike hypercritical poland which portioned czechoslovakia with hitler but then went crying about Danzig a Germain populated area they wouldn't give back to germany.
@@starcapture3040 Poland didn't own it. The teritory was made so Poles and Germans won't fight to death about these lands. But i could agree that IT was a stupid decision and it should be German (although Germany should sign the Little Treaty of Versailes [don't know if i named it correctly but i mean that one about respecting National and Ethnic minorities]). Like Poland had claims from like XVIII centuary witch was pretty weak (and also German population in large cities like Danzig). The one with Czechoslovakia is basiclly the most stupid decision in Poland history next to making Prussia a Vasal (or hovever it is called in English)
@@dostawcagazu The territory was given to poland so it can access the sea but the problem it was populated with germains while cutting off east prussia from the rest of germany as sign of humiliation towards germany from the allies, something poland have nothing to do with, Why I would put my new independent country in enmity with germany for sake of the French and British empire rivalry with germany if it wasn't for germany Poland wouldn't even have had its independence from russia. it was much headic to control it anyway and it would be good excuse for germany to invade if poland did what Denmark did maybe it wouldn't have gone into war at all. as newly established independent country that would be the last thing ever to get involved with since poland don't have such strategic important anyway they can act like switzerland or Belgium as a buffer zone instead of angering every neighbour you have . afterwords Russia forced an ethnic cleansing in east prussia it caused resentment towards poles from germans although it isn't talked about in media it exist in Germain mindset even to this day. the polish government in the 30s acted so foolishly in many fronts. the poles were used left and right for things shouldn't even have involved themselves at like the invasion of iraq in 2003 what were poles doing there lol
@@starcapture3040 Poland leadership has always been a shortsighted meme, blind to history. It's disturbing seeing them side with the only people in history to genocide them solely for being polish... a people who still wave the banners of that dark time openly to this day. Poland does so just to own Moscow because 80 years ago it purged the polish officer corps, as was the Russian habit then, to everyone including itself.
I do not defend russia just polish state logic has a lot of blind spots.
I was just asking myself this question a while ago. Man, I love this channel!
Oooh, you got into the Schleswig question! Thorny!
Also perhaps the only historical instance where world powers imitated overbearing aunts at birthday parties trying to pressure their nephews into having one more slice of cake.
Well, it was even weirder before that. Like Prussia pretending Denmark declared war on the for updating a 1000 year old law, and as a result a 1000 year old Danish law is the world oldest law still in effect, but only in the German Southern Scheswig.
@@Carewolf Pardon me, but can you tell me the name of that law? I've been unable to find it by searching.
@@howtoappearincompletely9739 Jyske Lov. The law of Jutland. We updated it in the rest of Jutland to the Danish Constitution.
Apparently most of it was replaced by "Burgerliches Gesetz" in 1900, but in the 1980s parts of the old law was used by the courts in an inheritance case.
What goes around comes around I guess.
Denmark: "I have decided that I will no longer wage wars of conquest (which given my relationship with Norway and Sweden is a big deal)."
UK and France: "Have some land!"
Denmark: "Hmm, interesting. I'll look into it."
UK and France: "No wait! Have more land!"
Denmark: "This is getting out of control now..."
UK and France: "YOU WILL TAKE THESE LANDS DENMARK."
Is Denmark vikings,Nordic or scandanavian
@@danLTa1 All 3.
@@danLTa1 The Viking era ended in 1066.
27 years later:
Denmark: "I surely need some land after being occupied by Germany, the last country I want to be occupied to"
UK and France: [stays silent]
My great great great great (I think that's the right number of greats) grandfather hoofed it to America when he was told that not only was he now German and not Danish, but that he was such a good German that he was joining the German Army. Not sure of the exact year, so it might have been pre-unification, and thus not _actually_ a German army, but still.
It would have been A german army, but not THE german army.
Danes in the occupied area got conscripted for the German army. My great grandfather got sent to France in WW1.
My wife's... great? grandfather supposedly told the story of his travel to America as "I'm a shoemaker. The Kaiser says I am a soldier. I say 'fuck the Kaiser'."
It always makes my day when I see that History Matters has uploaded a new video.
1:35
Is that Churchill being the only one happy with a new front?
"leaving them with only one option .... discussion ... with each other ... about how they were gonna crush denmark in a war" --- I died
So did the Danish soldiers in that war.
"Dead Danes can't steal land"
Made even more interesting given the fact that the Queen of Denmark, Alexandrine was from the House of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, a grand duchy on the Baltic coast
And also funny enough, Christian X tried to push the government to take these lands and yeah, no, that didn’t go anywhere
No, just the city of Flensburg across the present border in Schleswig.
@@someopinion2846 But then we Danes would have to drive all the way to Kiel, to shop cheaper in a relatively large German city.
Good God, i need glasses. For a second there, i thought you called her Muckleberg-Schwein. "Wait. That's not right. Muck-mountain pig?!"
@@ems7623 That would’ve been ironic since Alexandrine was the one German in Denmark who actually remained in the good graces of the Danish public
I like how the treaty of Versailles is painted as Britain and France being bullies and Denmark calls it’s mom (america) in to tell the bullies off.
Yeh I needed to know this thank you for amazing Content Comrade!
History Matters: 0:56 "...and neither wanted to see two members ripped away, leaving them with only one option."
Me: It's war, isn't it.
HM: "Discussion, with each other."
Me: "Color me surprised."
Seriously, that was a really good subversion of expectations.
0:12 Denmark welcomes you! (Unless you’re Swedish, in which case, get out!)🤣🤣🤣
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
I miss 10 minute history, can you please do one of those once a few months. It'd make me extremely happy & possibly end my depression forever. Covering everything from prehistory to today even if you oversimplified half of it I would absolutely (beyond) LOVE IT. Something to sleep on at least
"Magic Conch shell, what must we do to regain some lands we lost to Prussia?"
"...Nothing."
"THE SHELL HAS SPOKEN!"
Fun Fact: Til this day the German region of Schleswig still has a danish minority party which actually made it to the Bundestag last year.
Sadly, it's been taken over by leftwingers, who aren't even Danish.
They should join Denmark
@@seronymus no
@@albinserpent1388 a weaker Germany and a bigger monarchy is better for everyone
@@seronymus no
Your work literally helped inspire me to make a channel and begin history videos, so thank you.
I have to wonder what would have happened if the United States hadn't interceded for Denmark. Would Britain and France have put sanctions or gone to war with Denmark to force them to take more territory? It's all so weird...
I doubt they'd have gone to war, they were exhausted and their electorates would not have tolerated that.
US intercede did not make a difference at all, if the Danes had kept its view the result would have been the same.
denmark lost the war of 1920ish, and in the peace treaty was forced to annex land....
Denmark: Hey now that that whole business is over and I know we didn't help an all, but could we have that bit of Schleswig back please?
France & Britain: Take more.
Denmark: What?
France & Britain: TAKE MORE.
Denmark: But we don't want more, and there aren't really that many Danes that far south.
France & Britain: *TAKE MORE.*
27 years later:
Denmark: Now, we have escaped out of that prison of anti-freedom and hate of Jews and minorities of being occupied by German Reich, could we have the rest of Schleswig back please?
France & Britain: [silent]
@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn actually, Denmark was offered to retake Southern Schleswig after WWII, But declined. It wasn’t Denmark who made the suggestion.
Because Denmark was given special permission by James bissonette
My grandmother still has a collection of voting pamphlets from the referendum (that she got from her parents), some for voting Denmark and some for Germany, as my family (Danish) were based in south Jutland. That piece of our history has always fascinated me.
So cool to see such a big channel making a video about my beautiful home town Flensburg/Flensborg :)
fun fact as someone from Schleswig-Holstein: the motto of the state (in plattdüütsch or low german - a different language) still is
"Up ewig ungedeelt" - meaning "forever unparted"
Ist ee quasi ein langes e oder hörbar zwei e?
@@aramisortsbottcher8201 langes e
That was the slogan which caused all the trouble.
Well ok, not all.
@@aramisortsbottcher8201 Ein langes "E"..
I love that Monarch's decision tree for determining an heir's name.
Netherlands: can we have lands?
England: definitely not!
Denmark: I don't want these..
England: You better take them!
I love how comical you narrate the story. 😍😂
Short, fun, informative and enough time in between class? love this channel
2:30 that was funny lol
Allies: we are generously forcing you to accept these lands!
Denmark: How about no?
Very interesting. Thank you!👍🏾
I love these videos. I learn so much in a few minutes.
Following you from 4 years, love your content and it has also helped me in my exams. Thank you,. Btw I am a student so cannot take membership yet.
A great question that I had never thought about. Good video 👍
Before finding this channel, I would have never thought I would subscribe to one about history. Much less turn on notifications. But here I am, subscribed and notified. Fun Fact... Love this channel for making history fun!
Britain and France: We're about self determination!
The people living there: Actually a lot of us to the south want to be considered German
Denmark: Hey we shouldn't force them to be Danish if they don't want to, let's have a vote
Britain and France: >:C
There were (and still is) a lot of asterisks when it comes to legal or humanitarian claims of the western powers.
to be fair, the self determination thing was a big ruse anyway
If they actually went with it states such as Yugoslavia and the free City of Danzig just wouldt have been.
@@ithadtobeaname7327 That was the joke I was making
@@AFGuidesHD Yea unfortunately this kinda thing still happens. The west likes to pretend it doesn't do it as if we aren't just like the rest of the world. It's hypocrisy all the way down.
Britain and France: "We have self-determined that you don't count."
1:37 can we give some credit to this guy for the attention of detail please. that american flag on the screen is period-accurate. the US always changes their flag to accurate reflect the number of states in the union. there were 48 states in total from 1912 to 1958, therefore 48 stars on the flag during ww1.
Holy shit
Is there any practical use for a 47 star flag?
@@robertjarman3703 Alternative history where Arizona and New Mexico are added as a single state?
The US Flag, by law, does not change until the 4th of July following a new state entering the Union. Since New Mexico and Arizona were both granted statehood in the same year (a month apart), the 47 star flag was never official (a handful of examples are known to have been made, less than a dozen). Presumably these were one-off manufacture to celebrate NM becoming a state.
NOOOOOOOOOOO....The Schleswig Hosltein question!
"Only three people have ever really understood the Schleswig-Holstein business - the Prince Consort, who is dead - a German professor, who has gone mad - and I, who have forgotten all about it." - Lord Palmerston
I’ve been wondering about this for a long time
Thanks
"he did what childless kings weren't suppose to do...he died" lost it lol
Portugal - Fights, sends a lot of men to the war, doesn't gain any territory (except a insignificant city)
Chad Denmark - Doesn't even fight, gets the lands it lost back, and offered to get more
Not even an insignificant city, the only territory Portugal got after World War I was a triangle of land between German (now British) Tanganyika and Portuguese Mozambique. Talk about getting scammed.
"Here, take this land"
"No thank you"
_"I wasn't asking"_
Britain: "Mate, just take more land, you deserve it for being a good sport."
Denmark: "Ol' man, I'll go Danelaw on your arse if you tell me what to do again..."
Ah, yes, custody hearings.
"You take it"
"No, YOU take it"
Normally during negotiations: nooo you cant take this much territory you mad man
France during negotiations: nooo you cant take this little territory you mad man
pro imagine your allies being pissed that you won`t take more of enemy's stuff. 2:00
You do good stuff man
Imagine having to pressure Britain not to force a country to GAIN land
When have they created a country with care for ethnic borders?
@@delano4526 We created the biggest empire in history.
Denmark needed that land for lego!
0:58 "Leaving them with only one option... Discussion." Love how you took the long route to "War" this time 😂
Delighted to see a new History Matters video in my sub box after a proper horrible day
They really do boost the mood, don't they?
Hope your day improves.💪