How special is the Galion TS120 tube integrated amp special edition?
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2022
- #hifi #audiophile #stereo #Amplifier #speakers #tubes #capacitors
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Gear used in this video
Galion TS120 Special edition tube integrated amplifier
Mcintosh MAC 6700
Silverline Sonata speakers
Focal 1038 speakers
Focal 836w speakers
Apertura Edena Evo speakers
Sibelius speakers
Check out the sound demo Loic recorded with the standard TS120 at his place. ua-cam.com/video/6vxftWGW3K0/v-deo.html
😁 THOMAS…BEEN THERE,DONE THAT 🤗👍😎😍😍😍
clicked the link but it says video unavailable.
@@Mike-hb4pc I think he replaced it with this one. ua-cam.com/video/3plrhDx5E8Q/v-deo.html
Capacitors can make a big difference in sound and Performace with An amp
This is why so many Vintage Purest who like 70s Era audio amps do not want their amps recpped it changes the sound !
Capacitors in the 70s were built different and much larger than today caps with the same Value - IF You fully recap an amp from the 70s with new age caps it will sound closer to a new age amp !
And this is why So many Vintage Purest only service their amps if something is wrong 😆
Now I'm questioning if I should bump up to the special edition. Thank you Thomas!
Thank you for this perfection quest !!! I ordered my Special Edition and I know I will receive an even better amp than I initially ordered. Your amp will soon shine in France ;-) Thank you again Thomas !
Wow, what dedication!
15 yrs ago, I put Jupiter wax caps in my Bottlehead Foreplay preamp....lovely til they melted....!😂 ...they were great in my custom Belle Klipsch xo's.
Nice work, it is like fine food, finding the balance with Technique and ingredients.
Couldn't agree more!
You answered my thoughts @6:39 👍Elna Simlic II are nice audio grade caps and very affordable thank christ. Good one Thomas
Great video Thomas. I hope you sell 5000 of your new integrated! 👍
Hi Thomas, love your channel and great work bringing an amp to market. A potential addition for future revisions would be to allow it to accept EL34 tubes. These are more romantic than the KT88 and would offer a warmer and possibly more engaging sound that might appeal to some users (like me). Depending on the exact circuit you're using, this could be incredibly simple to incorporate. Just a thought.
Magic!! Very cool. Now picture ice cream when you listen to it, is there sprinkles? Chocolate? Nuts? Cherries?
It is a nice accomplishment sir!
Oh yes!
I would try Audyn cap True Copper for coupling and Mundorf in the power supply. Mundorf could give you deep controlled bass.
🌟🌟 G A L I O N 🌟🌟
in cap rolling those Clarity caps, I found they bump the upper midrange and become edgy sounding. that's why I suggested the Auricap XO earlier because it retains more level without sacrificing the clarity or becoming too much
Thanks for the info.
Its been 10 yrs since I used Clarity and Aura's.... Never liked them, maybe I need to try the new models. I now love Miflex KPCU-01.
Thomas can you share which Jupiter caps model are those that took the edge off the upper mids?
Those are not on the market yet.
Thomas ,what output trannies are you using,and did you looked at the mundorf silver oil and gold oil.And what made you decide not to go with the tube rectified option?Hope you find what you are looking for in your journey,and may you sell to good fortune.Thanks for your always smiling video's and reviews.Dutch greetings.
Thomas, fantastic how you are still fine tuning and sharing the path to how you are getting to the final product. Now I am not sure which would pair best with my DeVore 0/93? I am open to suggestions. Congrats again. Cheers.
If the speaker is forward, then Special edition. If the speaker is dark or smooth, then normal edition. If the speaker is neutral, depends on your taste.
@@galionaudio9146 Thanks Thomas. Always a gentleman!. It does play life like, full and rich. Though I am not good at describing a "style", like forward. Unless that is something applicable to a horn speaker (ie Klipsch). Perhaps falls in the middle with a you are there feeling. Hmmm...decisions...decisions. Cheers!
Do you have any plans to add a balance knob to the TS120? Or is there a reason why not? Thanks
What tubes do you use please Thomas ... Kind Regards Brother ...
Just curious did you happened to try the Jantzen Superior Z cap (or higher range model)? For speaker crossover circuit, I find the Jantzen Superior Z cap sounds more natural, cleaner and clearer than Clarity or Mundorf caps.
I will have a better idea this week cause I got those for the normal edition to test just in case I can improve further the sound.
@@galionaudio9146 If you are replacing the Clarity EAS or CAS cap to the Jantzen Superior Z cap, you will definitely hear an improvement. Can't wait to hear your findings.
Ah, I'm glad you mentioned these. I have these really old capacitors on my tall multi-driver open baffle dipole line-arrays on the one ribbon tweeter on each channel, and I was wondering what they would sound like if I were able to 'upgrade' them, thanks! 😊
@@cpaint69 Agreed. I put Jantzen Superior on my tube amp and they are very natural. I now use Mundorf EVO Silver/Gold. A little pricey but I even compare them with the silver in oil and I prefer the silver/gold.
How long can these custom made caps last? My concern would be losing a cap and not being able to replace ???
Hey Thomas, I would buy if it was available in Silver... Right now, I have a TS120 standard in silver on order.
Yeah, I wish I could make the special edition in silver.
Well Thomas... I'm allergic to focal speakers, what d you think, should I the Gallion?
Haha, Focal speakers are great!
Which model do you think would match best with Klipsch Heritage speakers like the Forte or La Scala?
I had a Patreon tried it with La Scala normal edition and he can only listen at low volume with stock tubes. Once he push the volume, he finds it too bright. I plan to bring the special edition this week or next to test it. I would guess the special edition but until I listen to it, I am not 100% sure.
@@galionaudio9146 I would love to hear how the special edition compares.
@@galionaudio9146 any update to this?
@@traveledman Yes, the final version with smoother voicing, both normal edition and special edition pass with no brightness problem at all. The reason is because after I upgraded the special edition with Jupiter caps, I did something similar to the normal edition which made it sound smoother.
Parts Connection should be very happy with your video. I may have this wrong, a CAM member says that he has over 30 years of exp and has found Solon caps to be the best. I can appreciate that it would take hundreds if not thousands of hours to try a few variations. Then in the end the result is subjective. Argh.
I think just like everything in life, it all depends. The Solen caps might be the best in his specific situation, maybe it would be amazing in my situation too but until i try it, I don't know.
Will there be gallion speakers?
Working on it and it is not as easy as I thought it would be.
Any plans to make a separate amp or preamp?
Eventually, it all partially depends on the success of this amp.
When this unit gets more reviews about reliability and repairs are proven by a few years of business then I might consider the gallium however companies out for 50 plus years have amps in price range that have been proven
I agree that those companies who has a history of reliability has earn the right to charge a premium for it. Of course, that is why you get less performance from those similar priced amp for a reason but for many people, it is an acceptable compromise.
@@galionaudio9146 ya but when it comes down to repairs where is the history and ratings
@@randybehenna3081 Well it is a new company so I have to build up the reputation of excellent customer service. As I said, it is good to be cautious and buy from a company with a history of excellent customer service, the only downside, in that case, are they have to live with the downside of owning a tube-integrated amp if they go with an established brand. The downside is the bass in a tube integrated amp that uses four KT88 is always just meh when compared to solid state. The only exception is the Galion TS120. Now, if they go for KT170 that is a different story.
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Will the special edition feature improved tubes?
No, the problem is the cost of tubes have sky rocket and although I did look into it, it is not possible.
I wish you success in your new business. You are one of my favorite reviewers!@@galionaudio9146
How many inputs on the TS120SE?
4 input and one more ht bypass
🤔 how much would it cost to offer,plain and main volume knob as an option…Maybe saying GALION special edition on the knob or SE
The final version has no logo on the volume knob. The logo will be laser edge on the top of the center transformer instead. The whole front lettering will be shorten to make everything look cleaner.
@@galionaudio9146 NAP ….I liked the knob with the name on it and the ship …but I am not able to dine at this table at this time🥹
@@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Yep, me too... But, as always, we have to bow to the less imaginative masses 😁
@@latheofheaven 😁🥹sad …but true too often
Just another thought. On a CAM form on upgrading a MP Dac they showed pairing capacitors. Where a capacitor is you would add a smaller value one beside it, winding the wires around the other one. Please get some competent advice before trying this.
Ok I see the MP dac. What if you amp had a similar way to change Caps. No soldering required. You could provide Cap "upgrade" kits. The Tube Store sells Tube sets for amps as good, better, and best.
Too bad no balanced inputs.
Why dont you just forget the SE edition nonsense and just make the amplifier the best you can from the beginning rather than improve it before it even hits the streets!
I guess the same reason why bother making a Toyota Corolla when Toyota can build a better car Camry? Sure I can build a best, just that the amp will end up costing $100k.
If I could afford it I would get one. Thanks to Biden and Harris administration we are all in bad shape. Soon probably War ? Why can’t people listen to Music and have Cookouts just live in Peace and Happiness. We should force our Leader to fight instead of us ! Bet Wars would end permanently. Thanks for all do, it’s a nice break from all the craziness.
What specifically did the Biden administration do to put you in bad shape?
It has to be Mundorf silver in oil 😊