At 34:18 I accidentally thought Rahzar’s weapon was called the wrong thing. It’s not the reinforced rib protector. That’s his chest plate. The weapon is actually called the Skull Shatterin Staff.
I really appreciate how indepth you go with your reviews and comparisons. I also like the little history lessons you have in them please keep making content like this and I will keep watching.
This is an *excellent* video. How deep your knowledge on Turtles goes is crazy good (especially the comic stuff). As a youngster, the likeness on these movie star figs always hit me as especially impressive; I'm glad they're still getting credit for that. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks a lot! I’m glad you enjoyed it! I always really liked the movie star toys a lot too. Tokka and Rahzar look awesome and I always thought It was awesome how bendy the turtles were. They seemed like a step up from the regular TMNT toys. They felt like lifelike or something as a kid.
13:07-13:13 you ALMOST got it right. Tokka and Razhar appeared in 3 TMNT games not 2 TMNT games. The FIRST game is TMNT 2: Turtles In Time Arcade game in March 1991. NEXT in TMNT 2/3: The Manhattan Project in December 1991 in Japan and February 1992 in the U.S.A. THEN in TMNT 4: Turtles In Time in fall of 1992. TMNT (NES) and TMNT: The Manhattan Project (NES) came out in Japan months BEFORE they were released in Japan. The Japanese don't count the first TMNT NES game in their numbering (which makes sense because it's an RPG not a arcade beat em up.) So for the HOME systems their numbering goes: TMNT: The Arcade Game TMNT 2: The Manhattan Project TMNT 3: Turtles In Time This makes more sense than how it's done in America. The Arcades are their OWN story with: TMNT TMNT 2: Turtles In Time. The home releases of these 2 games are NOT the same as their arcade counterparts since they added extra chacracters and levels in the home releases🤓
You could of also showed the Mutatin Tokka and Mutatin Rahzar Figures where we transform them from regular form to Mutant Form they looked alittle more bigger than the regular figures.
My own opinion but i do feel Peter Laird had more involvement of not having Bebop and Rocksteady in the sequel since there are mentions that he dislikes the 80s cartoon and it kinda shows it with Turtles Forever since the 2003 show, Peter Laird was very involve to why we see that show be the most faithful of the comic books. In Turtles Forever they really made the 80s turtles so out of character from making them crack jokes even when it's a serious situation to the point of making them look like wimps and having the 2003 Turtles mocking them. I have watched the 80s cartoon, while yes they have their own goofy style, you still see the turtles as heroic, trying to stop Shredder and Krang and show all 4 being capable fighters. Again, this is me speculating since i have seen folks mentioning how Peter didn't like what they did back in the 80s cartoon.
I agree. He wasn’t fond of the shows campy tone. He said in one of the ask peter Laird posts on his blog that he stopped paying attention to the show after season 3 because it got too goofy for him. I just don’t understand why if he thought bebop and rocksteady were too goofy for the movie, why would he make Tokka and Rahzar silly too. It’s weird because I understand his point about some things. It’s like a one hit wonder band. People will always want them to play that one commercial song that everybody loved, but they want people to get past that and see their deeper pieces of music. The 80s Turtles are pretty silly in Turtles Forever, but it’s pretty amazing that he allowed the whole thing to take place. People were begging him for years to put Bebop and Rocksteady in something. I like a lot of the projects he oversaw when he still owned Mirage alone like the 2003 show and toys, the 2007 movie, and certain aspects about volume 4, but I think he also made some questionable decisions. nobody’s perfect though so in general I’m alright with what he was doing. He must have some fondness for the Fred Wolf series. I mean it made them a lot richer than Mirage Comics would have alone. If the Turtles remained only a comic, most of us would never have even known about it. Despite being about 4 mutant turtles it’s not the most appealing comic for kids. The way I look at it, the 80s cartoon at least got kids interested in the turtles and one day a lot of those kids decided to look into the turtles more and found the original mirage comics and now appreciate them too. That should make him happy a little bit about the cartoon.
@@razrentals8897 I think the reason that happened was of how successful the 1st movie did that they kickoff with the sequel and it's possible they were heading for the same route as the first by making it edgy and base on stories from the comics like City at War. Do recall that Professor Perry was going to be revealed as an Utrom but i think the changes started when parents were complaining of how the Turtles are using their weapons and the plot was a bit darker to why we see changes like the Turtles not using their weapons, make Tokka and Rahzar stupid because i can say that Peter Laird wanted those 2 to be vicious but of what happened with the parents, the studio had to follow protocols and i do feel Playmates has something to do with this. Remember how Kenner was meddling in the Batman Forever movie? I think Playmates did the same with Secret of the Ooze since they saw how well the 1st movie did and wanted part of it but wanted the studio to tone down the violence so parents don't complain so they can buy their kids TMNT movie figures.
I think he feel like a sellout which you get it from a comic book creator but at the same time he should know that uf it wasn't for the 80s cartoon, know one would have known it was based on a comic and really was a smash hit back then. I don't blame him of not liking the later seasons were it does get silly but at the same time he should consider how fans were still enjoy watching the show and the live action movie helped further that growing fandom. Peter Laird is a good comic book writer and artist but he is old school to why i can see him not been fond of seeing too many mutants fighting the turtles like in the 2003 they fight against criminals, aliens and strange beings from another dimension but not much on mutants except on S3.
@@IvanSanchez-ft3mp I kind of miss him being out of the picture. When he was still in charge it seemed mirage studios was still like an underdog you could relate to. It was always cool reading the letter columns where he’d actually answer peoples questions and talk about behind the scenes turtle stuff at the studio. Some good things have come out since he sold it it, but now the turtles belong to Viacom and it’s missing that human touch. Him being annoyed about too many mutants is kind of funny too, because it’s his and Kevin’s fault haha. I was thinking about this the other day. It didn’t start with playmates or Fred wolf pushing for more mutants. It probably started with Tmnt and other strangeness the rpg. The guide to that game is filled with mutant animals that you can use to play the game. That came out in 1985. They probably knew for awhile that lots of mutant animals was where it’s at.
Lol. That was a great video man. It almost made me feel bad for krang getting eaten and all. Growing up I've always loved rahzars look. Almost reminiscent of the creature from big trouble in little china.
Ive heard they will have Tokka and Rahzar neca figures from the cartoon. If so then that sounds pretty cool. Since in the cartoon they were more intelligent Also cool poses of Tokka and Rahzar with Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady and Super Shredder. It was like watching a crossover.
My hope is that Super 7 does their toy version with their Ultimate line and NECA covers the cartoon versions with their line so we get even more of these guys.
sorry im late but bebop and rocksteady was not added beacause like u said he belived they were goofy but their personalities too they were more funny then intimadating and they wanted more intimadating mutants so they made tokka and rahzar
they are nothing to do with the comic. thats all it boiled down to..... they were made up just for the movie, and then afterwards, were in the cartoon.....
I always felt Bebop and Rocksteady wouldnt have worked in the movie...their dumb personalities just would not work on screen...as well as having them de-mutated. It was easier to just create new mutated beasts!
I hated the Tokka figure when I was a kid. Probably because I loved Slash so much I felt Tokka was a cheap knockoff. Rahzar got a new sculpt but Tokka got shafted. Scaled way too small too. Still have him in my box. Took off his belt because in the movie he didn’t have it. Big mistake because now I lost it. Ah well.
Yeah, I don’t know either. I was thinking that when I was taking picture, but forgot to mention it. Same thing with Slash. I always thought he was too short. I hope when Super7 makes them, they make Slash, Tokka, and Rahzar huge compared to the turtles. Bebop and Mutagen Man sure are at least so there’s hope!
@@razrentals8897 Like other TMNT figures from Playmates, they didn't want to make tge figures bigger reason that they will use more plastic so gotta cost more and they believe that parents wouldn't let their kids buy toys in higher prices to why we see bigger characters scale down a bit and not have an accurate height
At 34:18 I accidentally thought Rahzar’s weapon was called the wrong thing. It’s not the reinforced rib protector. That’s his chest plate. The weapon is actually called the Skull Shatterin Staff.
I really appreciate how indepth you go with your reviews and comparisons. I also like the little history lessons you have in them please keep making content like this and I will keep watching.
Thank you! I’m glad you like them! I’ll try to put up as many as I can!
Just got the new movie star villans pack from playmates pretty solid 4 pack
I haven’t seen that yet.
This is an *excellent* video. How deep your knowledge on Turtles goes is crazy good (especially the comic stuff). As a youngster, the likeness on these movie star figs always hit me as especially impressive; I'm glad they're still getting credit for that. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks a lot! I’m glad you enjoyed it! I always really liked the movie star toys a lot too. Tokka and Rahzar look awesome and I always thought It was awesome how bendy the turtles were. They seemed like a step up from the regular TMNT toys. They felt like lifelike or something as a kid.
13:07-13:13 you ALMOST got it right.
Tokka and Razhar appeared in 3 TMNT games not 2 TMNT games. The FIRST game is TMNT 2: Turtles In Time Arcade game in March 1991. NEXT in TMNT 2/3: The Manhattan Project in December 1991 in Japan and February 1992 in the U.S.A. THEN in TMNT 4: Turtles In Time in fall of 1992.
TMNT (NES) and TMNT: The Manhattan Project (NES) came out in Japan months BEFORE they were released in Japan. The Japanese don't count the first TMNT NES game in their numbering (which makes sense because it's an RPG not a arcade beat em up.) So for the HOME systems their numbering goes:
TMNT: The Arcade Game
TMNT 2: The Manhattan Project
TMNT 3: Turtles In Time
This makes more sense than how it's done in America.
The Arcades are their OWN story with:
TMNT
TMNT 2: Turtles In Time.
The home releases of these 2 games are NOT the same as their arcade counterparts since they added extra chacracters and levels in the home releases🤓
You could of also showed the Mutatin Tokka and Mutatin Rahzar Figures where we transform them from regular form to Mutant Form they looked alittle more bigger than the regular figures.
those were amazing
Good idea
My own opinion but i do feel Peter Laird had more involvement of not having Bebop and Rocksteady in the sequel since there are mentions that he dislikes the 80s cartoon and it kinda shows it with Turtles Forever since the 2003 show, Peter Laird was very involve to why we see that show be the most faithful of the comic books.
In Turtles Forever they really made the 80s turtles so out of character from making them crack jokes even when it's a serious situation to the point of making them look like wimps and having the 2003 Turtles mocking them. I have watched the 80s cartoon, while yes they have their own goofy style, you still see the turtles as heroic, trying to stop Shredder and Krang and show all 4 being capable fighters.
Again, this is me speculating since i have seen folks mentioning how Peter didn't like what they did back in the 80s cartoon.
I agree. He wasn’t fond of the shows campy tone. He said in one of the ask peter Laird posts on his blog that he stopped paying attention to the show after season 3 because it got too goofy for him. I just don’t understand why if he thought bebop and rocksteady were too goofy for the movie, why would he make Tokka and Rahzar silly too. It’s weird because I understand his point about some things. It’s like a one hit wonder band. People will always want them to play that one commercial song that everybody loved, but they want people to get past that and see their deeper pieces of music. The 80s Turtles are pretty silly in Turtles Forever, but it’s pretty amazing that he allowed the whole thing to take place. People were begging him for years to put Bebop and Rocksteady in something. I like a lot of the projects he oversaw when he still owned Mirage alone like the 2003 show and toys, the 2007 movie, and certain aspects about volume 4, but I think he also made some questionable decisions. nobody’s perfect though so in general I’m alright with what he was doing. He must have some fondness for the Fred Wolf series. I mean it made them a lot richer than Mirage Comics would have alone. If the Turtles remained only a comic, most of us would never have even known about it. Despite being about 4 mutant turtles it’s not the most appealing comic for kids. The way I look at it, the 80s cartoon at least got kids interested in the turtles and one day a lot of those kids decided to look into the turtles more and found the original mirage comics and now appreciate them too. That should make him happy a little bit about the cartoon.
@@razrentals8897 I think the reason that happened was of how successful the 1st movie did that they kickoff with the sequel and it's possible they were heading for the same route as the first by making it edgy and base on stories from the comics like City at War.
Do recall that Professor Perry was going to be revealed as an Utrom but i think the changes started when parents were complaining of how the Turtles are using their weapons and the plot was a bit darker to why we see changes like the Turtles not using their weapons, make Tokka and Rahzar stupid because i can say that Peter Laird wanted those 2 to be vicious but of what happened with the parents, the studio had to follow protocols and i do feel Playmates has something to do with this.
Remember how Kenner was meddling in the Batman Forever movie? I think Playmates did the same with Secret of the Ooze since they saw how well the 1st movie did and wanted part of it but wanted the studio to tone down the violence so parents don't complain so they can buy their kids TMNT movie figures.
I think he feel like a sellout which you get it from a comic book creator but at the same time he should know that uf it wasn't for the 80s cartoon, know one would have known it was based on a comic and really was a smash hit back then.
I don't blame him of not liking the later seasons were it does get silly but at the same time he should consider how fans were still enjoy watching the show and the live action movie helped further that growing fandom.
Peter Laird is a good comic book writer and artist but he is old school to why i can see him not been fond of seeing too many mutants fighting the turtles like in the 2003 they fight against criminals, aliens and strange beings from another dimension but not much on mutants except on S3.
@@IvanSanchez-ft3mp I kind of miss him being out of the picture. When he was still in charge it seemed mirage studios was still like an underdog you could relate to. It was always cool reading the letter columns where he’d actually answer peoples questions and talk about behind the scenes turtle stuff at the studio. Some good things have come out since he sold it it, but now the turtles belong to Viacom and it’s missing that human touch. Him being annoyed about too many mutants is kind of funny too, because it’s his and Kevin’s fault haha. I was thinking about this the other day. It didn’t start with playmates or Fred wolf pushing for more mutants. It probably started with Tmnt and other strangeness the rpg. The guide to that game is filled with mutant animals that you can use to play the game. That came out in 1985. They probably knew for awhile that lots of mutant animals was where it’s at.
Old playmates line is amazing for its time!
Agreed!
It was...i collected them! It was the tmnt era for kids!
great video
Lol. That was a great video man. It almost made me feel bad for krang getting eaten and all. Growing up I've always loved rahzars look. Almost reminiscent of the creature from big trouble in little china.
Thanks! Haha, yeah poor Krang.
I cant wait till they reissue these figures!
Ive heard they will have Tokka and Rahzar neca figures from the cartoon. If so then that sounds pretty cool. Since in the cartoon they were more intelligent
Also cool poses of Tokka and Rahzar with Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady and Super Shredder. It was like watching a crossover.
I hope Neca does Secret of the Ooze figures...with maybe a soft rubbery feel!
That’d be awesome. I’d also like Super7 to make new movie star turtles with rubber limbs.
Wow I just realized that Rahzar's thigh armor are tire pieces.
i always wanted these as a kid and i have never actually seen either in the flesh, er, plastic. So, i just bought Rahzaron ebay
My hope is that Super 7 does their toy version with their Ultimate line and NECA covers the cartoon versions with their line so we get even more of these guys.
That would be great!
34:18 you said his name wrong the rib protector is the golden thing in rahzar’s chest about the skull weapon its called skull shatterin staff
Shoot, you’re right. I must have only written down 3 of his accessories when I was figuring things out. Thanks for pointing that out.
sorry im late but bebop and rocksteady was not added beacause like u said he belived they were goofy but their personalities too they were more funny then intimadating and they wanted more intimadating mutants so they made tokka and rahzar
they are nothing to do with the comic. thats all it boiled down to..... they were made up just for the movie, and then afterwards, were in the cartoon.....
Where did you get these facts of tokka?
Turtlepedia and there’s some interviews out there that talk about it.
@@razrentals8897 Great can you give me the link?
turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Tokka_(Golden_Harvest/Imagi)
I always felt Bebop and Rocksteady wouldnt have worked in the movie...their dumb personalities just would not work on screen...as well as having them de-mutated. It was easier to just create new mutated beasts!
I hated the Tokka figure when I was a kid. Probably because I loved Slash so much I felt Tokka was a cheap knockoff. Rahzar got a new sculpt but Tokka got shafted. Scaled way too small too. Still have him in my box. Took off his belt because in the movie he didn’t have it. Big mistake because now I lost it. Ah well.
Yeah I agree. They probably could have made an awesome looking new sculpt for him.
Wonder why theyre smaller than the turtle figures
Yeah, I don’t know either. I was thinking that when I was taking picture, but forgot to mention it. Same thing with Slash. I always thought he was too short. I hope when Super7 makes them, they make Slash, Tokka, and Rahzar huge compared to the turtles. Bebop and Mutagen Man sure are at least so there’s hope!
@@razrentals8897 Like other TMNT figures from Playmates, they didn't want to make tge figures bigger reason that they will use more plastic so gotta cost more and they believe that parents wouldn't let their kids buy toys in higher prices to why we see bigger characters scale down a bit and not have an accurate height
Rahzars face looks like the Bigfoot on the goofy movie.
Haha yeah I see that!
I hope we see Super 7 versions of these guys!
Agreed!
Sugary ninja turtle goodness I’m copyrighting that
You can try, but I have the proof I came up with it.
Snapping turtles have pretty big tails actually, so.... that's a dezine flaw. [idk how to spell]
cowabunga yo!!!!🔥🐢🍕
The 2 movie did not come out in 1991 it came out in 1992
According to IMDb and Wikipedia it came out March 22, 1991.
His motivation was revenge
Haha yeah, I guess I didn’t think of that, but now I can hear him yelling it in my head.
Dare I say this review is bossa nova?
Chevy nova?
Excellent