Daiwa seems to have their own philosophy when it comes to running their business. One thing for sure is that they never made an effort to let their consumers know that Magseal is not fool-proof and requires periodic maintenance. It needs to be checked at least annually if not every 6 months. There were some cases with the 2010 Saltiga which came out of their boxes with dried out Magseal. The Magseal Oil will evaporate even without use and surprise! the magnetic oil is not for sale to the public, only available at their service centers. The situation is pretty troublesome for independent reel workshops and diy consumers. I'm sure less consumer will opt for Magsealed reels if they're made aware of the Magseal Oil situation.
I've also found where I live a magnetic oil for the Magsealed, since Daiwa itself wont sell it unless you are from a Daiwa's specialized shop, there is only one place in my country that is a Daiwa partner so its kinda messed up for who makes reel services for itself
In many cases much less than 2 years with Spinning reels. Magseal bearings on the other hand is pretty long lasting. For the other Magseal application, best to check annually of every 6 months.
@@Warumarbeit yes some Daiwa Saltiga in the year 2010 ran into some issue. Magseal dried out straight out of the box. So the possibility is always there. Key thing to understand is that Magseal is not foolproof and far from maintenance free. The consequence of a failure in the Magseal especially with Spinning reels can be severe with saltwater use.
WHY Daiwa does not sell that fluid to public?! They only tell you, you have to ship your Magsealed reels for maintenance to an authorized dealer. Basically, it is the same as you have to go the dealer premium price for changing oil, air filters, etc instead of DIY and save hundreds!
I have no idea why, Daiwa seems to have their own philosophy when it comes to running their business. One thing for sure is that they never made an effort to let their consumers know that Magseal is not fool-proof and requires periodic maintenance. It needs to be checked at least annually if not every 6 months. There were some cases with the 2010 Saltiga which came out of their boxes with dried out Magseal. The Magseal Oil will evaporate even without use and surprise! the magnetic oil is not for sale to the public, only available at their service centers. The situation is pretty troublesome for independent reel workshops and diy consumers. I'm sure less consumer will opt for Magsealed reels if they're made aware of the Magseal Oil situation.
@@reelyology They only have Magsealed reels now, except maybe Finesse Exists. Daiwa makes great spinning reels, however I can't stand when I can't diy maintenance. I'll do it way better at home using my ultrasound cleaner and premium oil/grease than any Daiwa tech out there. And we gotta pay them premium price for that.
@@WarEagleTheBest I concur. Magseal is now definitely a serious consideration for DIYers. Daiwa should be more transparent regarding the maintenance and make it available for people who choose to maintain their own reels. This business model of mandatory sending to the Service Centers is outdated and backwards especially in countries fluent with DIYers such as US, UK, and Australia.
@@reelyology Funny thing I just found out, I need separate tools/adaptors/screw remover in order to disassemble Exist/Luvias 15 and Exist 18/ Certate 19 reels. What a joke, each adapter cost around ~$25
@@WarEagleTheBest you're referring to them monocoque reels. Yes you may need several special tools to open em up. I would say $25 is cheap per tool. I've been hearing $100, I've designed and custom one so far. May need to design another 2 or 3 to cover all monocoque body series
I have no idea why, Daiwa seems to have their own philosophy when it comes to running their business. One thing for sure is that they never made an effort to let their consumers know that Magseal is not fool-proof and requires periodic maintenance. It needs to be checked at least annually if not every 6 months. There were some cases with the 2010 Saltiga which came out of their boxes with dried out Magseal. The Magseal Oil will evaporate even without use and surprise! the magnetic oil is not for sale to the public, only available at their service centers. The situation is pretty troublesome for independent reel workshops and diy consumers. I'm sure less consumer will opt for Magsealed reels if they're made aware of the Magseal Oil situation.
They're generally good reels, however if you know enough about Daiwa reels you may think twice about that statement. Some of the best for sure, far from the King I would say.
@@miyamotomusashi692 it really depends on which type of reels, their size and for which usage. In my arsenal I have some baitcasters from Abu Garcia and Banax, lever drags from Avet and Poseidon, spinning from Penn and Ryobi, the latest addition is a baitcaster from Shimano
Yea, Danube. And no more magseal anything from Daiwa, after I realised what sorts of constructional and greasing compromises, lackings, they did to incorporate this.@@reelyology
Daiwa seems to have their own philosophy when it comes to running their business. One thing for sure is that they never made an effort to let their consumers know that Magseal is not fool-proof and requires periodic maintenance. It needs to be checked at least annually if not every 6 months. There were some cases with the 2010 Saltiga which came out of their boxes with dried out Magseal. The Magseal Oil will evaporate even without use and surprise! the magnetic oil is not for sale to the public, only available at their service centers.
The situation is pretty troublesome for independent reel workshops and diy consumers. I'm sure less consumer will opt for Magsealed reels if they're made aware of the Magseal Oil situation.
Kaki pancing panggil magoil. Engineer panggil ferrofluid.
I've also found where I live a magnetic oil for the Magsealed, since Daiwa itself wont sell it unless you are from a Daiwa's specialized shop, there is only one place in my country that is a Daiwa partner so its kinda messed up for who makes reel services for itself
Terbaik ar..minyak Tak menitik bila ketuk
did you try spraying water on the seal? i mean banging it seemed like it had a good seal, but how does water affect the magseal oil?
U obviously didn't watch the whole video
@reelyology Hello, is it true that Mag Sealed dries out after 2 years if you don't use the reel?
In many cases much less than 2 years with Spinning reels. Magseal bearings on the other hand is pretty long lasting. For the other Magseal application, best to check annually of every 6 months.
okay but the role is only in the showcase does it dry out anyway?
@@Warumarbeit yes some Daiwa Saltiga in the year 2010 ran into some issue. Magseal dried out straight out of the box. So the possibility is always there. Key thing to understand is that Magseal is not foolproof and far from maintenance free. The consequence of a failure in the Magseal especially with Spinning reels can be severe with saltwater use.
good job, your mag sealed dont mix whit lubrication oil
WHY Daiwa does not sell that fluid to public?! They only tell you, you have to ship your Magsealed reels for maintenance to an authorized dealer. Basically, it is the same as you have to go the dealer premium price for changing oil, air filters, etc instead of DIY and save hundreds!
I have no idea why, Daiwa seems to have their own philosophy when it comes to running their business. One thing for sure is that they never made an effort to let their consumers know that Magseal is not fool-proof and requires periodic maintenance. It needs to be checked at least annually if not every 6 months. There were some cases with the 2010 Saltiga which came out of their boxes with dried out Magseal. The Magseal Oil will evaporate even without use and surprise! the magnetic oil is not for sale to the public, only available at their service centers.
The situation is pretty troublesome for independent reel workshops and diy consumers. I'm sure less consumer will opt for Magsealed reels if they're made aware of the Magseal Oil situation.
@@reelyology They only have Magsealed reels now, except maybe Finesse Exists. Daiwa makes great spinning reels, however I can't stand when I can't diy maintenance. I'll do it way better at home using my ultrasound cleaner and premium oil/grease than any Daiwa tech out there. And we gotta pay them premium price for that.
@@WarEagleTheBest I concur. Magseal is now definitely a serious consideration for DIYers. Daiwa should be more transparent regarding the maintenance and make it available for people who choose to maintain their own reels. This business model of mandatory sending to the Service Centers is outdated and backwards especially in countries fluent with DIYers such as US, UK, and Australia.
@@reelyology Funny thing I just found out, I need separate tools/adaptors/screw remover in order to disassemble Exist/Luvias 15 and Exist 18/ Certate 19 reels. What a joke, each adapter cost around ~$25
@@WarEagleTheBest you're referring to them monocoque reels. Yes you may need several special tools to open em up. I would say $25 is cheap per tool. I've been hearing $100, I've designed and custom one so far. May need to design another 2 or 3 to cover all monocoque body series
Bravo.where I find this oil?
Well if you find authentic Daiwa Magseal Oil, let us know too!
Muy buena donde podría compra el oil magsale? Gracias
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Where can i get the magsealed oil?
And why doesn’t shimano use this magical lube
Yes, stell rotor and spool made by plastic. Hahaha, that is their high-end reel. A joke stella.
@Hugh Mann you can get it yourself on ebay or amazon
I have no idea why, Daiwa seems to have their own philosophy when it comes to running their business. One thing for sure is that they never made an effort to let their consumers know that Magseal is not fool-proof and requires periodic maintenance. It needs to be checked at least annually if not every 6 months. There were some cases with the 2010 Saltiga which came out of their boxes with dried out Magseal. The Magseal Oil will evaporate even without use and surprise! the magnetic oil is not for sale to the public, only available at their service centers.
The situation is pretty troublesome for independent reel workshops and diy consumers. I'm sure less consumer will opt for Magsealed reels if they're made aware of the Magseal Oil situation.
Shimano prefers the more reliable (edit: conventional) and simpler rubber seals.
Because it's a marketing gimic
Finally! A Gimmick Name thatseems to actually work! A First for the reel industry?
Magseal has been used for around 8 to 10 years ago for Daiwa reels. Check out my other comment on the caveat of owning one.
Amazing DAIWA THE KING OF REELS
They're generally good reels, however if you know enough about Daiwa reels you may think twice about that statement. Some of the best for sure, far from the King I would say.
@@reelyology who is best for you?
@@miyamotomusashi692 it really depends on which type of reels, their size and for which usage. In my arsenal I have some baitcasters from Abu Garcia and Banax, lever drags from Avet and Poseidon, spinning from Penn and Ryobi, the latest addition is a baitcaster from Shimano
Where can I buy the replacement mag-oil?
@Taz Fake ferro fluid will destroy reel beyond repair! : ( 😡
@Taz How do you determine fake from genuine? 🤔
The music is annoying.
So is the Magseal.
Stufidest thing in reel design ever. I erase them and put ordinary oil.
Please don't do that. If you don't use the magnetic fluid, there will be no seal established and there will be an open gap at the seal.
So what. I dont fish underwater.@@reelyology
@@bosesebi6685 you'll be fine if you don't fish saltwater. If you do and mostly on boats, all the best, enjoy while it lasts.
Yea, Danube. And no more magseal anything from Daiwa, after I realised what sorts of constructional and greasing compromises, lackings, they did to incorporate this.@@reelyology