Uncomfortable though it is Dali's fascism really is something the art world and even popular culture hasn't spent enough time coming to grips with. According to political dissidents within Francoist Spain Dali was more known within Spain for being a spokesman for the Franco regime than for his art. Fascism wasn't a momentary fascination or affectation for him, it was a serious long term deal, akin to Maya Deren's lifelong relationship with Haitian Vodou (her work "Divine Horsemen: The Living Gods of Haiti" is still considered to be one of the authoritative texts on the subject over fifty years after its publication) or Kenneth Anger's commitment to Thelema.
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I don't think Dalí gave half a dime for politics; more likely he'd support anyone who let him paint & do his shenanigans in peace.
seperate the art from the artist. MJ was a massive pedo and people adore his music still and thats ok (especially now he is dead and cant use his fame to molest more people)
@@fastkarr8256 In fact there are: with the painting "The Weaning of Furniture-Nutrition," a painting of his childhood nurse, he was forced by the other Surrealists to paint over a Nazi armband as a condition of his being allowed to remain a member of the collective before he was finally kicked out. In 1974 he also pained "Equestrian Portrait of Carmen Bordiu-Franco," a painting of the daughter of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, for free as a personal gift to the Franco family with whom he wasn't just a political ally but a close family friend. He also got into some heated conflicts with Spanish artists who made art criticizing the Franco regime, notably with Pablo Picasso over "Guernica." Again, this is all covered much more in depth in the video by The Canvas. That aside, even though he never painted any explicit pro-fascist propaganda posters we have more than enough evidence from his public statements, private correspondence, and actions over the course of his life to conclude that Dali was at best a supporter of fascism and most likely an adamant fascist. To use another problematic fave that is nearer and dearer to my heart just because H. P. Lovecraft never wrote and published explicit hate manifestos akin to a certain book that sounds like "Minecraft" or explicitly white supremacist fiction akin to "The Turner Diaries" that doesn't mean we can't conclude that he wasn't racist. We have overwhelming evidence from his private writings, people who knew him, and other sources of information about him to conclude that he was indeed horrifically racist even by the standards of his time. Art isn't always the best source of information about the artist who produced it.
Fucking amen. Of the first generation painters I've always thought that Remedios Varo and Rene Magritte were far better than Dali, with Beksinski easily dominating surrealism in the second half of the 20th century. Of the filmmakers I get why "Un Chien Andolou" has its place but that was more Luis Bunuel's work than Dali's, and Buñuel was the more important surrealist filmmaker overall as can be felt via works like "L'Age d'Or" and his contributions to Dalton Trumbo's "Johnny Got His Gun:" meanwhile the influence of pieces like Maya Deren's "Meshes of the Afternoon," Kenneth Anger's "Fireworks," and Cecelia Condit's "Possibly In Michigan" have had much more influence not just on surrealist cinema but on feminist cinema, queer cinema, and the development of the music video as we currently understand it, to say nothing of David Lynch taking his distinctly American flavor of cinematic surrealism mainstream with works like "Mulholland Drive" and "Twin Peaks." The fact that I can get a melting clock licenced by the Dali estate from Bed Bath and Beyond should really show how Salvador Dali is the Thomas Kinkade of surrealism.
Max Ernst will always be my favorite. Easily one of the best artists of all time. He had it all, technique, experimentation, a full embrace of surrealist method.
Honestly I love Dali. He was a self proclaimed clown being Dali for the public was performative art itself. His solo work and collaborations lead the way towards many contemporary movements. He did pop art before everyone.
Surrealist art is fun to observe.
Uncomfortable though it is Dali's fascism really is something the art world and even popular culture hasn't spent enough time coming to grips with. According to political dissidents within Francoist Spain Dali was more known within Spain for being a spokesman for the Franco regime than for his art. Fascism wasn't a momentary fascination or affectation for him, it was a serious long term deal, akin to Maya Deren's lifelong relationship with Haitian Vodou (her work "Divine Horsemen: The Living Gods of Haiti" is still considered to be one of the authoritative texts on the subject over fifty years after its publication) or Kenneth Anger's commitment to Thelema.
I don't think Dalí gave half a dime for politics; more likely he'd support anyone who let him paint & do his shenanigans in peace.
@ Watch The Canvas' video in the topic. It lays things out pretty explicitly. Dali was a very political man, and his politics were fascism.
seperate the art from the artist. MJ was a massive pedo and people adore his music still and thats ok (especially now he is dead and cant use his fame to molest more people)
@@tjenadonn6158 so are there explicitly fascist paintings
@@fastkarr8256 In fact there are: with the painting "The Weaning of Furniture-Nutrition," a painting of his childhood nurse, he was forced by the other Surrealists to paint over a Nazi armband as a condition of his being allowed to remain a member of the collective before he was finally kicked out. In 1974 he also pained "Equestrian Portrait of Carmen Bordiu-Franco," a painting of the daughter of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, for free as a personal gift to the Franco family with whom he wasn't just a political ally but a close family friend. He also got into some heated conflicts with Spanish artists who made art criticizing the Franco regime, notably with Pablo Picasso over "Guernica." Again, this is all covered much more in depth in the video by The Canvas.
That aside, even though he never painted any explicit pro-fascist propaganda posters we have more than enough evidence from his public statements, private correspondence, and actions over the course of his life to conclude that Dali was at best a supporter of fascism and most likely an adamant fascist. To use another problematic fave that is nearer and dearer to my heart just because H. P. Lovecraft never wrote and published explicit hate manifestos akin to a certain book that sounds like "Minecraft" or explicitly white supremacist fiction akin to "The Turner Diaries" that doesn't mean we can't conclude that he wasn't racist. We have overwhelming evidence from his private writings, people who knew him, and other sources of information about him to conclude that he was indeed horrifically racist even by the standards of his time. Art isn't always the best source of information about the artist who produced it.
Surrealist Art is amazing when you are rly rly high on Acid . You got the perfect narration voice for Trip Reports
Shut up
Please do more shorts, this channel always excites ❤
I do as well, esp art schools, et al.
More if this please :)
Merry Christmas everyone! Have a great holiday!
Great insight about Dali and Freud, I didn't know they did meet.
When you're on acid these type of art is phenomenal to watch.
Mooi.
Love that you're doing shorts!
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Thanks for posting!
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what about max ernst?
Kok sy merasa surealis rene magritte agak kocak yh
Do you think it's funny? XD I find it a little scary
Dali is overrated and trite. There are far more interesing surrealists.
Fucking amen. Of the first generation painters I've always thought that Remedios Varo and Rene Magritte were far better than Dali, with Beksinski easily dominating surrealism in the second half of the 20th century. Of the filmmakers I get why "Un Chien Andolou" has its place but that was more Luis Bunuel's work than Dali's, and Buñuel was the more important surrealist filmmaker overall as can be felt via works like "L'Age d'Or" and his contributions to Dalton Trumbo's "Johnny Got His Gun:" meanwhile the influence of pieces like Maya Deren's "Meshes of the Afternoon," Kenneth Anger's "Fireworks," and Cecelia Condit's "Possibly In Michigan" have had much more influence not just on surrealist cinema but on feminist cinema, queer cinema, and the development of the music video as we currently understand it, to say nothing of David Lynch taking his distinctly American flavor of cinematic surrealism mainstream with works like "Mulholland Drive" and "Twin Peaks." The fact that I can get a melting clock licenced by the Dali estate from Bed Bath and Beyond should really show how Salvador Dali is the Thomas Kinkade of surrealism.
Just because you have certain political beliefs it doesn't mean Dali is 'overrated' and 'trite'.
Max Ernst will always be my favorite. Easily one of the best artists of all time. He had it all, technique, experimentation, a full embrace of surrealist method.
@@gnomschild I love him! Truly imaginative and massively skilled.
Honestly I love Dali. He was a self proclaimed clown being Dali for the public was performative art itself. His solo work and collaborations lead the way towards many contemporary movements. He did pop art before everyone.
Czyżby surrealizm przewidział Obecne czasy?
🙃 Salvador6 oddał to w pełni.