Leonora Carrington - Britain's Lost Surrealist | TateShots
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2015
- Featuring rare archive footage, this short film follows Leonora Carrington’s cousin and journalist, Joanna Moorhead, exploring the artist’s story.
Leonora Carrington was one of the most prolific members of the Surrealist movement. After rejecting her upper-class upbringing in northern England, Carrington embarked upon a relationship with Surrealist artist Max Ernst, and became central in the Surrealist circles of France and New York.
After hanging out with celebrated names such as Andre Breton and Pablo Picasso, the artist then moved to Mexico where she spend the rest of her life painting, as well as making sculpture, tapestry, writing poetry and designing for theatre and film.
This film is republished with kind permission by The Guardian.
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"You are trying to intellectualize something ...
desperately ...
and you are wasting your time"
Leonora Carrington
*intellectualiSe
(US) intelectualize
(UK) intelectualise@@notgadot
…davidl6332: English lesson> ‘and YOU’RE ( abbreviation of ‘you are’) wasting your time’.🙂….
Merci pour prendre le temps@@cristelelizabethjohn1661
I love how resistant she is to intellectualizing her art.
What she means by intellectualise is not really genuinely intellectual. The cousin is trying to oversimplify the work by fitting it under broad rubrics. That's not particularly intellectual. And actually it's the artist who is doing the real intellectualising here.
Kata Khresis Creative people are full of shit, and you learn to love this fact, I think, but it’s what they do that matters, if it manages to matter at all; and if it manages to matter at all, then it is only in the taste of that particular beholder IMO. It’s all IMO.
@@katakhresis2796 the function of art is experience, spatial relation, and personal relation. Trying to come up with a reason or explanation for art is for people afraid to feel
@@losttobooze Not surprising, that's a myth that exemplifies what Coleridge, a knowing myth maker, terms willing suspension of disbelief. Art is always second-hand to the actuality of experience, since it is a representation of experience, often times a hallucinatory recollection of experience fraught with repression, in your case the repression of the rational side in favour of superstition. The effect of art 'lies' in its affect, the ability to make people feel, that is to play on their emotions, to manipulate their feelings, which serves an ideological agenda that is often hidden, by indoctrinating them into particular biases. Anyone who practises an art seriously knows the affects that produce the magical effects attributed to works of art by a gullible public are largely the result of technical applications. Only a naive artist would think he is a shamanic conduit for some higher power that he cannot himself explain.
@@katakhresis2796 I sell paintings when I finish one, but now I'm afraid.
My tender little baby-heart feelings don't know what to do. I wish I was naive. I'd drink Evian.
There is a higher power, more than the electricity and magnetism in our brains.
It looks like love is the best conductor, as we leave the flesh for the light.
There are Sons and Daughters of the Gael, who speak Gaelic. Bay-an-uck-let, blessings on you.
I love how in her paintings the animals are beings and have souls with feeling just as valid as the other human-like beings. This is the way it really is; their feelings are real, too.
Her paintings are of a surreal dreamscape from another dimension that are haunting, imaginative, beautiful and somewhat morbid.
Some of her paintings, at first glance, remind me of the stories by Edith Nesbit (1907: The Enchanted Castle) Wondering if Leonora was influenced by her?
@@onion6foot she would never admit that
I wonder why I have seen in recent times so many things online referring to Leonora Carrington as "lost" or like some new amazing find. Since I first started exploring surrealism in 1980, I have had no problem finding her fiction, books of her artwork, references to her and various books on surrealism, etc. She is perhaps among the best known woman surrealists. A few other woman surrealists of note: Remedios Varo, Toyen, Claude Cahun, Penelope Rosemont, Gina Litherland, Rikki Ducornet, Annie Le Brun, Gale Ahrens, ... the list could go on. All worthy of looking into, the last five, still living and still practicing surrealism as a way of life.
Ichabod Heranow thank you kind sir
Thank you for this list. I shall improve my knowledge and enjoyment of surrealism because I shall look up these artists you recommend. I’m sorry to disappoint you in my complete lack of knowledge in this subject but I hope you will be happy to know that I will be an enthusiastic explorer!
@Ichabod Heranow Couldn't agree more. Carrington's work was in my undergrad art history TEXTBOOK back in the '80s. Such rediscovery pretensions are a product of present day art history, where young female art historians must prove their feminist ardor by "discovering" a female artist we the public don't know because patriarchy denied them venues to show their work. While art history sadly includes thousands of such scenarios, from a practical research POV there isn't much archive material to work with, as these female artists' lives were mostly private with careers often brief (raising children), so "rediscovering" a Carrington is easier, and her own life story of leaving the competitive European art world for "exotic" Mexico (in reality not so) seems to parallel nicely the stock feminist narrative of woman artist rejected by patriarchy but richer for it.
@@magistra137 I am sorry if I seemed too ... critical. I just tend to be very protective of surrealist history, especially that of surrealist women. I am actually glad that you posted your post, and my intention was mostly to let people know of how many women have been very active in surrealism.
Ichabod Heranow; there are levels of awareness among the populace for an artist. I believe what is being expressed about Leanora Carrington is that she is now being discovered by the wider public. Bringing up that an artist years ago was known by you or that her work was published in various books does not invalidate the claim that the general public was not aware of her three decades ago.
* Why such campaigns to increase an artist’s popularity? It's core reason is not a devious conspiracy. It's economics. Take Jackson Pollock. He was well known in the art world in the 1950s but at that time his paintings were only selling for thousands of dollars. With wider popularity by the 70s his paintings were selling for over $1 million. Besides the art market, there is also the economics of museums. If an artist is popular, then exhibitions will receive more attendance bringing more money to the museum.
Another surrealist who was equally smitten with Mexico was Remedios Varas. I recommend viewing her work.
Remedios Varo* :)
@@nahneh7977 Remedios Varo is so up there to
She is my very favorite visual artist ever. I have written tiny stories (perhaps prose poems) inspired by her paintings.
@@jesusayala8932hi, I know this is really old comment, but have you ever published these stories, or is there any way to read them? Sound so interesting! (Sorry for my English)
Even if it is a complex situation for the interviewer all the artist’s answers are true.
She makes no compromises in her replies.
She talks with the experience and the wisdom which goes with it.
I am full of admiration. She is intimidating but fascinating. My love for her work. ❤️🙏🏻❤️
The lady being interviewed was constantly being interrupted by the interviewer. My opinion is that the interviewer was not listening to the artist Leonora. Leonora repeatedly had to tell the interviewer not to intellectualise art and that art is visual.
Beautiful painter and I enjoyed hearing her speak even if I did not enjoy the interruptions. Leonora appeared to be a very down to earth woman unfazed by her commercial success whilst the interviewer appeared to be impressed because of the commercial success of the paintings.
If anyone knows of any other interviews by this artist I would appreciate a link to the interview. The paintings that I have looked up so far are so beautiful. I will enjoy finding more of her paintings and would enjoy hearing her speak more about herself and her experiences.
Stay safe everyone.
☘️🌝🌲
It was her cousin. They were having a conversation. 🙄
Mutter mutter scrape ponder we do, then someone says, "Look". Look at what? No, just look.
indeed; the lady was not really listening to what the Leonora was telling.
This is a full length documentary about her
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The interruptions were annoying but the woman is not a professional journalist, just a relative of the artist.
I wish the cousin would be quiet and listen...I could listen to this amazing woman for a long, long time.
you are right, we are only watching a highly edited 9 min clip of an extended visit she made. you think she went to visit Leonora for 9 mins? blame the editor
in addition to anything else, there is an example-lesson here in making your point when the other conversant isn't letting you completely unfold your message.
As an artist I hate vast swathes of Art but Leonora Carrington's work is excellent - both Frida K. & this lady were seriously good. God bless them, wherever they are.
“Don’t try to intellectualize art”...and yet the art “critics” and art gate keepers throw so many mumble-jumble of words around art and design that it interferes with the emotional appreciation of art. Unfortunately, many of the art gate-keepers actually reside at the Tate.
Majority of humanoids need vocal explanation about what they should accept. Bunch of Fuckin' tasteless robots.
A partir de un proceso histórico la búsqueda por la producción de piezas que apuntasen al intelecto del espectador fueron, para muchos artistas, un objetivo más relevante que el de generar piezas visualmente placenteras o ambiguas en cuanto a su sustento teórico, dicho esto, no deja de ser en ningún momento cierto que una pieza debe evocar sentimientos en el espectador y eso es algo también, digno de reconocer y difícil de lograr, saludos y excelente día c:
As a boy in the 1970s I had quite an appreciation for Surrealist art, I came across her at that time in a book of Surrealist paintings. Delighted to learn more about her and hear her speak. Thank you.
It's been been a privilege to watch this interview and listen to the artist's views on art.
She wrote short stories too, the complete collection published last year. Go for them 🐗
True. And, "The Debutante" is one of the greatest short stories. So funny and angry. A brilliant social class allegory.
Thanks for the tip!! I'm gonna look out for them 😁
Leonora Carrington - Britain's Lost Surrealist | TateShots 0506am 2.5.23 tired wit re: relationships - whether artistic or physical... she must be a very spiritual person, then, if she thinks along the lines of extraneous forces influencing one's work - which is obviously surrealistic in tendency. also worth asking: why the heck did they all bugger off, these artistes, to the Americas as Nazism rose and bared it's fangs?
A true Bohemian! I love her. Her sculptures are even more impressive than her paintings, maybe. I'll have to look into her work more. Thanks for the video!
Cheers mate
This excellent documentary is marred by the "background" music that is so loud as to make it impossible to decipher the important verbal content describing the artist.
Britains loss was Mexico's gain. México became a haven for artists like Leonora and Remedios Varo. Their works got the recognition they deserved there.
Pac_0 easy availability of mind-altering drugs
@@johnlawrence2757
Not this cases ,
Not at that period of time !
Alberto Garcia are you serious?????
@@johnlawrence2757
Surrealism is not exactly related to drugs.
Alberto Garcia shoes aren’t related to feet, you mean
Hoenstly props to the interviewer for embarrassing themselves like this, we wouldnt have gotten the raw insight into Leonara's perspective without pissing her off
Falling in love with Leonora, her vision and skill. The problem with intellectualising art is that our society is trained to value intellect/thinking over everything, not just art.
I can tell if I went on a date with her she would ask me not to call her again.
I find her work to be just so captivating! She definately invokes a feeling of excitement and intrigue for me
She feels the intrigues from her past in the UK
Leonora is absolutely my favourite painter, favourite genius and favourite badass!
As an artist myself, I do not intellectualize my art but most people I know try to encourage me to do simplistic art pieces or go backwards in my skills as an artist just so they can afford a painting or sculpture.
I am very happy that I just happened upon this video about Leonora Carrington. I love the paintings shown and I’m so glad that commenters have also mentioned her writing. I am excited to experience more of this great artist’s work.
thanks for this so much
I LOVE her personality. I LOVE her perspective on art. Never heard of her before this interview, but she seems AWESOME.
Two in the morning and I’ve listened to someone I’d never known existed, seen some of her art and I’m left curious.
Thanks. 🐋
I hope you will read her books too! I recommend you "The acoustic trumpet"
I love the way she is so certain in her ideas about art. I could learn from her.
As one artist once said, if I could say what I wanted to say without painting it I would. I think that also includes explaining the final product.
Renato Leduc, more than a diplomat he was a poet and writer. When he accompanied Leonora Carrington to Mexico, a latter comment in a conference I attended was that he had never seen before such a fragile person as her. Probably loosing Max Ernst, the nazi invasion of France and the ultraright government of Franco together with her present situation were devastating for her at the time.
She was fragile because she left her family behind.
The visual world and emotions is what the life of an artist is, she is so correct. 💜💜💜
absolutely fascinating .....loved her work.
Remarkable woman. How great that she got some attention before she passed. Her opinions about the sources or inspirations of creating art were spot on. Artists rarely ever choose to explain their work or ideas, nor should they. As she says, it comes from within.
She has been known for decades in Mexican and Latinamerican artistic circles, she was justly praised very early on her career. Sorry but the world doesn't revolve around the UK, knowing both artistic traditions I would say that Mexico was the place to be in the first 2/3 of the 20th century.
@@Tzctplus She only known in mexico and south america lol . The world class artists are known in the UK. mekzico never gave birth to any artist.
What a brilliant artist and personality. And I am not usually a fan of surreal art, but hers somehow connects with me.
So enjoyed getting to know this artist!
This was wonderful, thank you.
I just read her novel "The Hearing Trumpet" which is fantastic! truly.
I discovered Leonora Carrington's art for myself only recently, and it excited me a lot to see such unique and wonderful art for the first time.
this made my day, i had to watch it couple of times, really great
Glad to hear it!
Beautiful by "Tate", and the work by Leonora, which I knew before, but this great critic essay, show me her wonderful aproach to "Surrealism" by or from the greatest proto-surrealists: Hyeronomus Bosh and Peter Brueguel ... I really enjoy it. Thanks a lot
Delightful Work!
wonderful insight into this incredible artist! wow.
'Against Interpretation'! Interesting interview
Life experience when at its extreme can be the biggest catalyst for inspiration. The Surreal visual impetus is often otherworldly by nature, as an alternative to the reality one is, by experience, forced into. Like Remedios Varo, Leonora shares ways and means to make suffering beautiful. Thank you. Leonora is one of my favourite artists.
Well, that was very worthwhile.
I won't be able to help but to start consciously seeing individual things in space.
I feel pulled into her art the way I feel pulled into my dreams.
i agree completely
The figures' eyes give reference points to jump to. A lot of details that flow: like cats or whatever climbing up stairs that at first seemed like a piece of the wall.
*rolls eyes*
@@beanstaIkjack have you ever experienced lucid dreaming?
remarkable interview with a remarkable artist
Her work is amazing!
I think I understand what she means when she is so adamant about not intellectualizing her art and instead keeps saying it is a visual thing. I think that through art she turns her emotions into visual art, if that makes any sense. Maybe it's like the same way a writer might write his emotions in a journal with a pen, but she uses a paint brush and paint and a canvas. Just an idea.
*intellectualiSing
Una gran mujer y gran pintora. Amiga de Remedios Varo, surrealistas en Méjico ❤️
Beautiful and well done. Her insistence on a visual world rather than an intellectual one is
in line with Tibetan Buddhism
Love her artwork so much
the Tate is a treasure trove of surprises from all over the earth
Thank you from Wisconsin.
Good on you for seeking out and finding your brilliant relative.
Amazing!
She was never “lost” though. 🤷♀️
She's very well known in Mexico. There are even statues in the streets of Mexico city that commemorate her paintings.
Great point! If she was nudged out of view in the US it wasn’t really entirely successful. She is rightfully revered around the world.
Truly. Since 1938 (and up to the year the YT video was uploaded), there were exhibitions of her work outside of Mexico... in France, the Netherlands, the USA, Canada, England, Switzerland, and Ireland... and with _numerous_ exhibitions in some of the countries listed. She may have been "lost" to the extent that there was not some general public knowledge about her work, at least in the same way that Ernst, Dali and Miro were known.
I have always contented that if your visual art needs an explanation it fails as art
Not necessarily: the vast majority of people have no idea at all what they are looking at when they view a painting and only a tiny minority of those respond positively when offered guidance in this matter
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I love that she hates the idea of Art being intellectualized. So much in the Art world is turned into myth, which to me insults the Artists life. The real deep human side of creating Art. The deep emotional side of the Artist. It is characterized, and the myth repeated over and over, which tends to by-pass the real person. Fascinating woman. Fascinating Artworks.
*intellectualiSed *characteriSed
Good for her. Intellectualizing art is a way the art snobs can keep art all to themselves. If you not smart enough you can’t appreciate great art. That’s bull shit
Her art looks awesome
Amazing art ❤️
I wish the interview had been longer. I felt she was saying something very important, and it was cut short. The interviewing was a little clumsy, which irritated her, but also prompted her to make the points she did more clearly. The material value of her art, and the fact that she is a female artist were not important to her. The material value is imposed by a system that is motivated more by financial gain than to reflect the artistic merit of the piece in question. The gender of artist should be immaterial; a great piece of art is a great piece of art, no matter who painted it. If the gender of the artist and the material value of the painting are things in the mind of the beholder when they are looking at a painting, the values they attach to these points will influence their judgement, and prevent them from seeing the true artistic merit of the painting for what it really is. I was aware that I instantly warmed to her when I heard her speaking. Thank you for posting this on youtube.
I love what she said about not intellectualising art. She is so right. It should be only about the way it makes you feel.
It's a visual world. I like what she said about people trying to intellectualize art.
Leonora Carrington so simple and direct and right when she says that paintings are part of the visual world and not to be intellectualised. Talking about paintings or artists can be interesting but the image should work regardless of any added information. If you look at a painting and feel nothing then the painting has failed.
Come to this after reading the book written by Joanna Moorhead about her cousin Leonora. Both are great. What a splendid person she was - faults true but haven't everyone. Read the book. I'd love to see some of the work - have to track it down.
Amazing Artist
another winning production
Cheers!
I agree that this world is visual because that's how the world just is. And I love how she keeps on interrupting the interviewer. Maybe she doesn't hear that well but she's sassy and I love that.
I do agree, Mexico is surreal...
hermoso país
@@davidl6332 A veces. Puede ser hermoso y un lugar tan horrible.
@@Dai827 Como cualquier parte del mundo
@@Travelsandmore333 Si, pero te cuento esta anecdota. Mi abuela la atroppello un taxi, hasta rompio el parabrisas. Mi abuela no murio. Mi familia decidio retirar los cargos y cuando llegaron les dijeron que mi familia tenia que pagar el parabrisas que rompio mi abuela con la cabeza. Supongo que en muchos lados puede ser asi. Pero no me vas a negar que eso rayo en lo surreal.
we are always looking for some sort of truth and we can get caught up in the many words people attach to art but in the end our own intuition will tell us more than any rhetoric. spirit communicates through thoughts and our thoughts influence our emotions, and then we feel so deeply and that is entirely the point, that is enough
Kindred soul. Love.
Fascinante mujer.
People always be looking for some kind of epiphany in pieces of Art, it either meets you there or it doesn't - if it doesn't, keep looking - no biggie.
Saw the Remedios Varo exhibition in Mexico City that was excellent too if you like LC's work.
I’m glad she’s still with us!!
She died in 2011....
Marvellous artist...
Un monde extraordinaire!
I love her art
WoW A rare treasure of a woman and of her art
i think she has a very good point. ...more brutally honest art from within please♥
A real artist,a great lady,a true life....
Really a great artist, great.
I LOVE HER SO MUCH
One of my favorite artist, along with Remedios Varo. Please, check out this chilean artist: Carmen Aldunate. Greetings from Chile.
Carmen Aldunate has nothing to do with surrealism. Her work is well-done, but the surrealist imagination is certainly not evident. It looks like updated Renaissance painting.
I want to write a story around her painting with the three old ladies and the flower! (The one with the eyeglass reminds me of Granny Weatherwax...)
Pure luxury superb!!
One of the best sculptors ever, i like a lot more than her paintings.
Yes great life works amazing 🖌️
She is genius!
Wonderfully spoken ( too bad about the background music- sounds )
She's incredible
Far superior to her peers even. She's absolutely incredible
So beautiful so brilliant. I do disagree with her on intellectual interpretation of art though. There is somthing magnificent to be gained from the depths of understanding that can be obtained through intellectual dissection of an artistic piece. In art, nothing is taboo.
Wow !!!
Absolutely brilliant
love it regards J.J. Pokrak compmaturism
Leonora knew more than most instinctibly. And the snow queen melted at her feet!👀🖖
I love this woman, she's a great artist, but there are things that can be known through the intellect.
A mini tutorial from a great artist...so refreshing.
I feel there are a bunch of people in the comment section who are responding to her rejection of "intellectualizing art" without actually knowing much about Surrealism OR Leonora Carrington.
There's a lot of deliberate meaning and symbolism in her work, but it's very personal. She combines Surrealism and Magical Realism...she is just rejecting her cousin's efforts to fit where art "comes from" into a little materialistic box. I imagine she was especially offended by the idea that her talent could somehow be owed to a family that clearly didn't understand her.
She's not really a "lost" artist at all, btw, she is quite famous.... she was just lost to her family.