I see people moaning about the handlers rushing across to the track. All i can say is thank god they did. If they hadn't got hold of him with the others dogs hammering around the final bend it doesn't bear thinking about. I love watching videos of Scurlogue. some of his races give me goose bumps. so glad i grew up in the time of being able to watch him race. R.I.P. fella
Bob was a very very good dog over his distance and yes they should not have raced together. Politics aside though why they raced is only my grandparents choice. Media, money non stop phone calls everyday asking why they would not meet Bob in a head to head.??????? He was our pet he was never treated as a famous dog that needed special treatments so I think they just thought WHAT THE HELL! He was a dog not the president! Bob was and still is an Icon and so too is the champ in our eyes.
What fantastic memories your family 'pet' gave the greyhound followers of this country, my friend! There will never ever be a dog like Scurlogue again. I saw him win at Haringey when there was no way he should/could have won, but he did! To Ken, your nan and Ginger, we owe a great debt. :-)
The champ in a two dog race would have beaten bob over six or eight because of the clear run. Fact. I love Bob and champ and both are the absolute legends of the sport. Rest in peace both. And will watch then both til the day I die
Looking at their best distances it looks like Frankel vs Black Caviar. A race between those two would have settled nothing is it would the wrong distance for both.
oh my goodness, we have been out of the dog business now for some years so I couldnt comment. 20 years on with all the technology and recovery aids etc I would of thought they would or should beat him. A bit like an sportsman these days. I hope dog racing is as exciting these days as it was for us, I travelled all over Great Britain with Scurlogue and met some very famous people, it was fantastic.
thank you for your kind words. Yes duke was lame and very lame at that. We as a family treated that dog like a member of the family. It was a sad sad day when he died but all the videos on you tube has brought it all back. Thank you for that!
Best dog ever. INA. Two dog race would have beaten anyone including bob and I love Bob! Best dog ever! Rest in peace the champ. Will forever watch your amazing videos
I was there that night a huge anti climax but was lucky to see Scurlogue on a going day which if you saw him you will never forget Bob was a great dog but it was the champ they came to see
scurlogue won 51 of 63 races, all offered , not hand picked!!!!! before the opposition were selected most times, and also 20 track records and some still stand. 2 years and 1 month of racing career, not many do that. Odds on 55 times how often does that happen
She probably has, however the other dogs in this race were so fast over four bends that scurlouge champ who was so far behind forgot what he was doing and chucked it. He was an 8 bend dog and could give other stayers a good start and beat them as long as he kept them in sight.
scurlogue did chase the bloomin hare, it was part of his training at home. Yes he chased the dogs then the hare., correct nothing wrong with that. Horses are very similar!!!!! He was by no means a sprinter he was long distance yes, so whats wrong with that. He was a superb dog and not one of his races were turned down. My grandparents went against all the families wishes to think about each race card, but they never. Whatever was asked of that dog he tried his hardest. He NEVER gave up!!!!!
I like to think that the Champ thought that even he wasn't going to give Ballyregan a start and a beating so he packed it in to save his energies for another day!!!
Scurlouge Champ was a clever dodger thats all, anyone like me who has trained greyhounds have seen them. Scurlouge never chased the hare and in this race was so far behind he forgot what he was there for, sure the racegoers loved him but old Bob was the real deal, a heart like a lion, staying power and knew what he was chasing. Sadly though wasn't so good at stud as he was at racing, pity about that
Ballyregan Bob winning by 11 3/4 in a track record time of 42.63, which is why Scurlogue Champ lost sight of the bunny and stopped, as many thought may happen.
No he never, he never gave up on any of his training nor any other race so why say that about this race. Because it was against bob. we never went there thinking he was going to win, it was too short. My grandfather was requested so he complied. Simple as that. he didnt want to turn it down and look a coward , ithink that was the thing. I was in race horses and its just the same.
It was always going to be Bobs win even if the Champ had not gone lame,the trip was too short for Champ in his later years but would have been interesting if the owner of bob would have dared to go at Champ over 850m now that would have been a race
would have been one sided champ would have beaten bob no problem my uncle owned this fantastic dog i watched nearly every race of his there never be another champ same we could not breed from him i have his ashes on my mantle peace today with a massive photo of him above the ashes i still race dogs today at crayford
@@redrobin591 exactly, why are all these clowns who most likely never owned a dog, saying one dog is better than another. this race was purely for propaganda purposes and never was going to mean anything. it would be like putting red rum in the derby or making chris froom race on the bike track against chris Hoy. It was rather stupid i have to say, putting these dogs in the same race over this distance, your family did scurlogue no favours and all it did was stain the dogs reputation. i'm sure some good money was made out of it though for somebody, no doubt your uncle. if it was my dog however i would never have put his reputation at risk like this, what was the purpose other than making some money by using the dog as a circus act. shame on your uncle for that. he was and always will be a great greyhound. if only his owner had the same class
As extra ordinary,as scurlouge champ was,there was no way he could give ballyreagan Bob a 20 length start and a beating round Wembley over 710.......had the race played out,as people expected that night,even with the freakish whirlwind finish that the champ had,I think Bob on the night still a good 5-6 lengths winner......Bob was a machine over 6 bends,the champ always impressive over 8 bend slower dogs......Bob just too good over this trip........a real shame the race didn’t pan out as expected.........Bob was pure class,the champ,somewhat a freak of nature.could run this race 50 times,still would be only one winner....
So right lizanne I was fortunate to be there that night and it was an honour to witness this masterclass . Bob had track record holders over all sorts of distances strung out like washing and both owner and trainer were absolute gentlemen who deserved every success this machine of a greyhound gave them. Oh how this sport could do with another superstar like him and he would have won the st Leger had he not have gone lame as well
I don't think so. His talent was not to go fast. He was one paced but, up against the very best dogs, he got so far behind that he stopped chasing them.
I think this Greyhound is deliberately letting the other dogs waste away in the first lap, only to suddenly accelerate 15 km/h faster than the other dogs, so that the second lap is no problem for him to win the race.
Just to clarify my point, Bob would have been so far ahead after six bends, Scurlogue Champ would have forgotten what he was doing and chucked it, because he wasn't chasing the hare.
Crazy talk. Champ was nearing retirement. A year earlier would have been better. And I guarantee in a two dog race champ wins over six or eight. Guaranteed a clear run. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. And im a bob fan!
many punters watching champ for the first time would throw their tickets away thinking hes got no chance and leave, only for me who knew about champs late burst to scoop the tickets up after the race and enjoy the winnings,didnt last long though soon everyone knew that with champ it aint over till its over
You can`t see it very well in this video but if you look to the bottom right at 21-22 seconds there is a guy who`s presumably a marshal or something similar running towards the rail (from the inside of the track)and pulls back his right arm as if about to throw something? I think it`s likely the guy who jumped out to help Scurlogue Champ who reportedly turned round the wrong way but it just looks odd. Really looks like he`s pulling his arm back ready to throw something?
Anyone see the idiot on the inside of the track as SC comes to the bend out of the straight? Did he have anything to do with SC's breakdown and failure?
I was there that night just got so far behind lost sight of hare and stopped chasing, coming from Hove where 'bob' was. trained I had a fairly hefty bet on the mighty ballyregan
@@davebesag ikr and obv the number of hugely irritating types who feel it necessary to tell everyone how they lumped on large onto this n that. It's stupifying
@Oneloftracing77 good bitch yes around the stow but Bob did it all over held more track records but its about opinions mine is Bob best ever 6 bends yours differs.
I see people moaning about the handlers rushing across to the track. All i can say is thank god they did. If they hadn't got hold of him with the others dogs hammering around the final bend it doesn't bear thinking about. I love watching videos of Scurlogue. some of his races give me goose bumps. so glad i grew up in the time of being able to watch him race. R.I.P. fella
Bob was a very very good dog over his distance and yes they should not have raced together. Politics aside though why they raced is only my grandparents choice. Media, money non stop phone calls everyday asking why they would not meet Bob in a head to head.??????? He was our pet he was never treated as a famous dog that needed special treatments so I think they just thought WHAT THE HELL! He was a dog not the president! Bob was and still is an Icon and so too is the champ in our eyes.
What fantastic memories your family 'pet' gave the greyhound followers of this country, my friend! There will never ever be a dog like Scurlogue again. I saw him win at Haringey when there was no way he should/could have won, but he did! To Ken, your nan and Ginger, we owe a great debt. :-)
The champ in a two dog race would have beaten bob over six or eight because of the clear run. Fact. I love Bob and champ and both are the absolute legends of the sport. Rest in peace both. And will watch then both til the day I die
Looking at their best distances it looks like Frankel vs Black Caviar. A race between those two would have settled nothing is it would the wrong distance for both.
I was there at White City that night all those years ago I was supporting Scurlogue Champ...very sad! woof woof
oh my goodness, we have been out of the dog business now for some years so I couldnt comment. 20 years on with all the technology and recovery aids etc I would of thought they would or should beat him. A bit like an sportsman these days. I hope dog racing is as exciting these days as it was for us, I travelled all over Great Britain with Scurlogue and met some very famous people, it was fantastic.
loved that dog as a kid what made me love greyhounds and only ever 1 more greyhound made me feel same way was kildare slippy
Both legends along with west mead hawk and the causeway!
thank you for your kind words. Yes duke was lame and very lame at that. We as a family treated that dog like a member of the family. It was a sad sad day when he died but all the videos on you tube has brought it all back. Thank you for that!
Best dog ever. INA. Two dog race would have beaten anyone including bob and I love Bob! Best dog ever! Rest in peace the champ. Will forever watch your amazing videos
I was there that night a huge anti climax but was lucky to see Scurlogue on a going day which if you saw him you will never forget Bob was a great dog but it was the champ they came to see
scurlogue won 51 of 63 races, all offered , not hand picked!!!!! before the opposition were selected most times, and also 20 track records and some still stand. 2 years and 1 month of racing career, not many do that.
Odds on 55 times how often does that happen
She probably has, however the other dogs in this race were so fast over four bends that scurlouge champ who was so far behind forgot what he was doing and chucked it. He was an 8 bend dog and could give other stayers a good start and beat them as long as he kept them in sight.
No, the dog knew its job, I've seen him further behind than that and still won with a bit to spare.
scurlogue did chase the bloomin hare, it was part of his training at home. Yes he chased the dogs then the hare., correct nothing wrong with that. Horses are very similar!!!!! He was by no means a sprinter he was long distance yes, so whats wrong with that. He was a superb dog and not one of his races were turned down. My grandparents went against all the families wishes to think about each race card, but they never. Whatever was asked of that dog he tried his hardest. He NEVER gave up!!!!!
I ❤️ scourleg champ
No other dog could give you more pleasure than the champ the most exciting animal to ever race 👏👏👏❤️❤️
I like to think that the Champ thought that even he wasn't going to give Ballyregan a start and a beating so he packed it in to save his energies for another day!!!
I was in that crowd. The dog going lame all seemed rather suspicious at the time.
Scurlouge Champ was a clever dodger thats all, anyone like me who has trained greyhounds have seen them. Scurlouge never chased the hare and in this race was so far behind he forgot what he was there for, sure the racegoers loved him but old Bob was the real deal, a heart like a lion, staying power and knew what he was chasing. Sadly though wasn't so good at stud as he was at racing, pity about that
Ballyregan Bob winning by 11 3/4 in a track record time of 42.63, which is why Scurlogue Champ lost sight of the bunny and stopped, as many thought may happen.
Rdh-d alias jb..s.champ became lame.just one of those things
Totally normal for Champ to get way behind, nothing new whatsoever.
Two great dogs.
No he never, he never gave up on any of his training nor any other race so why say that about this race. Because it was against bob. we never went there thinking he was going to win, it was too short. My grandfather was requested so he complied. Simple as that. he didnt want to turn it down and look a coward , ithink that was the thing. I was in race horses and its just the same.
It was always going to be Bobs win even if the Champ had not gone lame,the trip was too short for Champ in his later years but would have been interesting if the owner of bob would have dared to go at Champ over 850m now that would have been a race
would have been one sided champ would have beaten bob no problem my uncle owned this fantastic dog i watched nearly every race of his there never be another champ same we could not breed from him i have his ashes on my mantle peace today with a massive photo of him above the ashes i still race dogs today at crayford
@@redrobin591 exactly, why are all these clowns who most likely never owned a dog, saying one dog is better than another. this race was purely for propaganda purposes and never was going to mean anything. it would be like putting red rum in the derby or making chris froom race on the bike track against chris Hoy. It was rather stupid i have to say, putting these dogs in the same race over this distance, your family did scurlogue no favours and all it did was stain the dogs reputation. i'm sure some good money was made out of it though for somebody, no doubt your uncle. if it was my dog however i would never have put his reputation at risk like this, what was the purpose other than making some money by using the dog as a circus act. shame on your uncle for that. he was and always will be a great greyhound. if only his owner had the same class
thats would never have happened would it, bobs handlers were smart people
Champ would beat bob no problem over 10 bends 888m was incredible dog his catford Tr was never beaten
As extra ordinary,as scurlouge champ was,there was no way he could give ballyreagan Bob a 20 length start and a beating round Wembley over 710.......had the race played out,as people expected that night,even with the freakish whirlwind finish that the champ had,I think Bob on the night still a good 5-6 lengths winner......Bob was a machine over 6 bends,the champ always impressive over 8 bend slower dogs......Bob just too good over this trip........a real shame the race didn’t pan out as expected.........Bob was pure class,the champ,somewhat a freak of nature.could run this race 50 times,still would be only one winner....
I was there that night scurlogue got so far behind lost sight of hare and stopped chasing only one champ the mighty n ballyregan
So right lizanne I was fortunate to be there that night and it was an honour to witness this masterclass .
Bob had track record holders over all sorts of distances strung out like washing and both owner and trainer were absolute gentlemen who deserved every success this machine of a greyhound gave them.
Oh how this sport could do with another superstar like him and he would have won the st Leger had he not have gone lame as well
So true.
Champ took a dive that night, Everything’s corrupt
I don't think so. His talent was not to go fast. He was one paced but, up against the very best dogs, he got so far behind that he stopped chasing them.
Bob the best 6 bend dog ever
*Pure Box Office* those 2 superstar pooches
I think this Greyhound is deliberately letting the other dogs waste away in the first lap, only to suddenly accelerate 15 km/h faster than the other dogs, so that the second lap is no problem for him to win the race.
These two and mick the miller wow!
would compare bob to the unbeaten race horse frankel both had a devastating turn of foot
Sami comparing a dog with a horse🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just to clarify my point, Bob would have been so far ahead after six bends, Scurlogue Champ would have forgotten what he was doing and chucked it, because he wasn't chasing the hare.
Crazy talk. Champ was nearing retirement. A year earlier would have been better. And I guarantee in a two dog race champ wins over six or eight. Guaranteed a clear run. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded. And im a bob fan!
Imo these 2 should've been in a 2 dog race. Bob would've led and champ would've kept him within striking distance.
In a 5 or 6 dog race Champ would have had something to chase. In a 2 dog race Bob would have been out of sight, and Champ would have stopped.
many punters watching champ for the first time would throw their tickets away thinking hes got no chance and leave, only for me who knew about champs late burst to scoop the tickets up after the race and enjoy the winnings,didnt last long though soon everyone knew that with champ it aint over till its over
You can`t see it very well in this video but if you look to the bottom right at 21-22 seconds there is a guy who`s presumably a marshal or something similar running towards the rail (from the inside of the track)and pulls back his right arm as if about to throw something? I think it`s likely the guy who jumped out to help Scurlogue Champ who reportedly turned round the wrong way but it just looks odd. Really looks like he`s pulling his arm back ready to throw something?
Question is who would have won had they raced healthy together Seems like a tough tough decision
A true champion .The champ was clumped here by Bob.Clearly the better greyhound.
that's just your opinion not mine and before you say what do I no about greyhound racing
I have own dogs for 38 years and still race them at crayford
They usually ran at different distances.
Behind every great greyhound there's a master trainer and that was goerge curtis, and Bob ended up in the natural history museum, kinda says it all
he gave up because he was too far behind so no matter what distance they ran over bob would have 1
Nonsense. You don't smash 20 track records by being a quitter.
lost sight of the hare.
Lost sight of bob
@@wibblywobbles2439 Exactly, great dog but would never beat Bob in a millions years over the distance.
Over many distances champ is actually quicker. Definately should've been a 2 dog race
Bob the best ever 6 bend greyhound
Great memories spoiled by awful Gubba commentary.
Anyone see the idiot on the inside of the track as SC comes to the bend out of the straight? Did he have anything to do with SC's breakdown and failure?
shame the champ never turned up
i cannot find this race on greyhound data
Champ was a good dog but was definitely a ponce and not a dog I ever would risk a gamble on
Would rather see a dog come from 20 lengths behind and come on to win, you wouldn't say that if you owned and bet on the dog in front
Ok just looked at the replay it was the handler
Wat about zoom top
How did scurlogue champ run in the derby
Didn't run in the Derby, too short a, distance
The best dogs run in the derby for breeding purposes
Something stunk to high heaven in that race.pure con
I was there that night just got so far behind lost sight of hare and stopped chasing, coming from Hove where 'bob' was. trained I had a fairly hefty bet on the mighty ballyregan
@@andrewwilliams8712 F off you delusional, egotistical prick
It's bad enough you have idiots on UA-cam claiming every race is fixed but now a greyhound is in on it.
@@davebesag ikr and obv the number of hugely irritating types who feel it necessary to tell everyone how they lumped on large onto this n that. It's stupifying
Watch out for scootles.
he is a derby dog
Unsighted......
All sports are rigged ...or we would all be rich.....they can't have that...
Bob the best 6 bend dog ever
Bob the best 6 bend dog ever
Spring Rose was the best 6 bend dog ever.
@@Oneloftracing77 Australian
@@Paul-fi8hy England
@Oneloftracing77 good bitch yes around the stow but Bob did it all over held more track records but its about opinions mine is Bob best ever 6 bends yours differs.
@@Paul-fi8hy She won the St ledger smashing the track record in the final. I think she won the final by 10 lengths if I remember correctly.