INSANE READ By DOUG POLK!!!!!!!!!!!
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2024
- Two titans of poker face off in this hand from a high stakes poker tournament at the Lodge Poker Club. Alex Foxen takes on part owner of the Lodge Card Club - Doug Polk! If there is someone you really don't want to battle heads-up in a pot, it's probably a heads-up specialist such as Doug Polk. Watch this poker hand to find out why!
Alex Foxen is a 32 year old American professional poker player and is a regular at the highest stakes tournaments in the world. He has over $30,000,000 in live tournament earnings putting him in the top 20 on the all time money list. He has 1 World Series of Poker (WSOP) bracelet. Doug 'WCGRider' Polk is a part owner of The Lodge Card Room along with Brad Owen and Andrew Neeme. Doug has almost $10,500,000 in live tournament earnings and 3 WSOP bracelets, which includes a win in the $100k Super High Roller for $3,686,865 in 2017.
Alex Foxen ended up winning this poker tournament for $235,000. Doug Polk came 3rd for $100,000. This was the highest buy-in event from The Lodge Championship Series. The series ran from April 26 - May 16 2023 and featured 19 events with buy-ins from $200 - $25,000.
🔥 This intense poker action took place at The Lodge Poker Club during a high-stakes No Limit Hold'em event with a jaw-dropping buy-in of $25,000!
🔍 Pre-flop:
Action is folded to Alex Foxen in the small blind who makes the call with 75o. Polk looks down at Q2o and opts to check as both players head to the flop.
🎴 Flop: Js 6d 4h
Foxen flops an open ended straight draw and decides to check. Polk who has not improved on this flop decides to check behind.
🔄 Turn: 6s
The turn pairs the board and now Foxen decides to start firing as he choose a small 33% pot size bet. Polk who is known for his fearless heads-up play makes the call with just queen high.
🔥 River: 9h,
Foxen mixes his straight draw and still has no pair by the river but this doesn't slow him down. He correctly identifies that his seven high is not going to win at the showdown. He decides to put Polk to a huge test as he uses a 150% pot size bet of 60,000 into 40,000. Over to Doug Polk, surely he can't find a call with just queen high? Watch this poker video to find out!
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Would YOU have found that call on the river? 🤯
I could reasonably find this call in a cash game scenario, with ICM implications this spot becomes a lot tougher. I play the same way as Foxen but I bet smaller on river, half pot most likely.
@@itskmillz i would say exactly same thing.
I said half pot...rare player that is Doug Polk that can find this call...sick lol
hellll no but thats why i play 1/2
No, never.
It was the huge bet on the river that gave it away. Polarized his range, and there are way more bluffs than monsters. Medium bet probably does the trick.
It is really tough to call when everything on the board beats you, but that's why Doug is so good heads up. If your opponent is balanced, its tough.
Thank you Jon! Excellent poker content, like always.
I definitely fold in game but I don't feel great folding. This is why I play low stakes still.
making the call here at low stakes would be insanity 😄
Low stakes x1.5 pot is always at least a 6😂😂
well this is a tourney too, not a cash game so the play style is also a bit different
"Scoopaloop" always makes me smile
Doug is a beast when there are few people left.
Doug is so sick man 😂
If Foxen is known to bluff a lot, then a hero call makes sense given the bet size. The whole way both Polk and Foxen played this hand is little too sticky for me. Aggression isn't a magic wand and maybe Polk picked up on this aggrocadabra tendency in Foxen's game play.
The 9 doesn't change anything on the river (maybe Foxen has the 9s with a spade flush draw, but very few combos of that specifically). If you bet big, you are saying you have like 6x or nothing. I think if you bet small, you can get Polk to fold out some of his weaker holdings that still beat you. He might call you with ace high if you bet $40K+.
I guess you can always give up too if you're Foxen, although this is a good hand to bluff with.
Doug has a tell. When the wheels start turning, there is a moment when it clicks. That is when you pray. Wait until he is splashy. And pray. That dude can play.
I like the Brilliant !! Logo
Anybody have a heuristic on how to reduce the frequency of hero calls with ICM as a factor?
nice call. make a polker hand about this pls. thanks mate.
at some point you have to recognize your opponent is so wealthy they don’t care about ICM. They find more value in the highlights.
Do we know what stack the 3rd player had? Could be more important than a lot of the other analysis.
What tf are you talking about. This was bvb.
Over bet turn might have been a better play?
looks like a Mike Postle call
Hmm.
I think bluffing is mandatory here. On a bluff, I would normally want to go big. However; that is polarizing , so what thick value is Foxen saying he has in this spot? He failed to bet J64 rainbow, he tiny bet the 6 turn, so if he overpots the river, I guess he is saying he has 96? So he made a tiny turn bet with trips? Doesn’t make that much sense. What thick value makes any sense here? So no. I think you have to go half pot advertising a random 9 or maybe even a 4. I think this has to fold out anything below King-high…
So im gonna go 20k on the river.
You're the man, Little!
If Garret would be in Alex position he would have a private 1v1 talk with Doug after this.
he would of asked for his chips back
Is q2 a bluff catcher.. .Is Alex also not bluffing with some of the Kx to which he loose.
he is but he’s not over betting that size with it based on the river.
I’d assume against a sticky player your winning a lot of the time with kx, so wouldn’t you value bet instead of go over the top?
Most people are insta-folding here, Polk is a weapon!
I like a smallish bet of 20,000. It tells the story that my hand is still good from the turn to the river.
Kind of doubt there would be that much if any shoving going on with that SPR versus small bet. Especially from Polk versus chip leader. E.g. does strong hands really want to create max fe and what kind of bluffs outside of oesd can Polk have if he shoves? It's still over 2x pot if he shoves over half pot cbet.
Also can see issue in flop check, bet, bet line that you do cap your range somewhat by not betting flop. But yeah not saying he would not have J, 6 or overpair good chunk of time as well.
6:42 I would've bet slightly under pot, but as 35k is not an option, 40 seems reasonable.
NGL there's about 0% chance I even make it to this river with Q2o lol
Why would Foxen not just go all in? Can Doug make the call thinking his Q is good?
You mentioned QT as a possible hand Alex could have, but wouldn't he be likely to raise with that preflop in this scenario?
Remember seeing AF limp AK, it’s possible that he is limping his entire tanager against a 20bb stack.
I'd bet big in Foxen's shoes. At least a pot sized bet.
Foxens face was like wtf just happened lol . I bet he thinks Polk was cheating live.
Haha i like the double exclam like its a chess game review.
Glad you picked up on it 😁
I bet half pot for bluff representing a Jacks /middle pair or a nuts
Its a heads-up ? Why SB acts first on flop then ?
If foxen had a hand like KX or Ax pre flop he would or raised it so going into the flop with Qx is not that bad . So when Foxen over bets the river he is representing a 6 on this board. Also if foxen had a 9x hand he wouldn’t bet this big . So it’s either a 6 or 10 high in this case it was 7 high .
Overpot, rarely going to be playing the hand this way and I’m usually going to have busted draws or a six, and when I have a six I want to get max value from a jack
Such a bad feeling when they call your bluff with queen high 😅
0:25
I don't see myself calling the turn or river with Q2. I'm ok betting the flop with the straight draw. It's the best play in poker when you make someone fold a better hand. If you get shoved on you're probably behind, do the math then make your decision.
Investigation?
I would Check.. no need to throw away money....
If you're betting turns and checking down rivers when you miss, you are making yourself very easy to play against.
bet 20k
Doug had 24k in the pot, easy to fold. I guess a J or 6 would bet stronger earlier, so good call
Expert analysis right there.
Indeed: Foxen may not have enough good Jx in his range on the River; - given how aggressive he generally plays (on all streets) .
it's call polarizing your range. It is weird to polarize your range here.
I un block spades. With Doug only calling turn bet, I could think he’s on spades since he didn’t bet flop. No way he has a jack or a 6, at best he’s got an under pair or a 4. I’m shoving for 3.5x and make sure he realizes all his fold equity.
Doug has a live read, when Alex dropped that chip he looks nervous 😂
I caught that and thought the same thing.
I bet if Doug reviews this hand that wasn’t part of his thought process. Because 1. Foxen wasn’t nervous. This was just a clumsy error. And 2. Doug Polk has made furious videos where he rants about playing a fundamental style.
He isn’t a “live tells guy”. He’s pretty much opposite of Helmuth.
@@MelFinehout this +1. Foxen is about as nervous in this spot as I would be pouring a bowl of cereal for breakfast.
i dont think its that crazy of a call really. any Kx Ax hand would raise preflop HU sb v bb, and foxen payed it exactly like a busted draw as you explain how you would play it, polk was easily able to sniff this out. text book call imo.
The pre flop limp for sure screams low cards/draw hands
Small stakes mtt. Mid level 2k 4k blinds. Folds to me in hj with 10/10 I limp, button was being crazy and going all in constantly. But everyone folds except big blind. Flop comes 4/3/6 rainbow. He has me way out chipped. He bets 15k into the 10k pot. I didn't know what to do and ended up folding. Was this a stupid play, to tight? He had just moved to our table so i had no idea how he played. He showed pocket 8s. I had around 20 bbs and we where 2 away from final table.
"Scoop-a-loop" should be patented
is Q2o now called the Dougie?
If I were Fox id overshove because 78 and 6x still in range and would play it the same way
No way I call. But then I’m no Doug Polk.
My biggest concern about folding here is if Alex is turning something like Ks5s into a bluff that actually beats me. I suppose there's so few combos of AsXs and KsXs (not to mention he'll raise lot of AsXs preflop) compared to stuff like 57, 78, 35 etc that it's a decent call.
Basically 0 chance I'm calling this in a tournament for half my remaining stack though, I'm no where near ballsy enough for that 😂
He’s not limping k7 ss pre
these Kx and Ax hands would not be bluffing, because they have too much showdown value to bluff. Generally bluffing is 0EV and with showdown value checking is positive EV
Heads up, Foxen will be raising any hand containing a K I think. Suited king, no question about it.
@@ajsage3363 that would be a horribly imbalanced strategy, even though Kx hands are strong enough to raise, that would make your calling range incredibly weak so the big blind could raise so often and crush you
What's your chess rating live? The double exclam gave you away
Honestly idk. Probably would fold but it is not a ridiculous call by any mean. A bluffcatcher with decent blockers (unblocking all bluffs pretty much). Bvb with wide ranges vs. super aggressive and capable villain. Not sure what stage of the tournament or what are the stacks exactly, but that would definitely affect my decision. (Yes, late stage but more specifically)
I would bet half pot with this hand in this situation.
EDIT: oh cool! Glad we had the same thought lol.
I was thinking the same thing, make it look like a value bet
Think the river plays as either pot size bet or as a check raise. From SB he’d have a bunch of 6s that’ll limp. So while I prefer a bet, I can get behind a check raise.
Hopefully Alex reads your comment and realises his mistakes
This hand is very similar to the J4 Robbie hand with Garret. I wonder if someone would do a comparison ananlysis. I would like to hear that.
Not even close. It's down to 3 handed and it's a tournament. Also, it's blind vrs blind. Robbie's hand made no sense in a cash game.
This hand is not similar at all… You’ve got a lot to learn my man.
the fact you think this hand is similar to the Robbi is all we need to know about the validity of your analysis
lol look at all the pretentious asshats in these replies
Bet 20,000. Make it seem like a value bet.
Doug must've thought Alex had 4's full, Jacks full or the board. He's an absolute killer.
underwhelming reaction by polk haha
20k, hoping Doug thinks I’m wanting the call.
Bet 1.5 x pot
Do queen high hero calls deserve an investigation
It's not a cash game 😂, and Doug Polk have a reputation on HU specialist
Good question. My gut tells me Polk is honest. My gut isn't always right. I wouldn't have called the turn or river with Q2. The poker world went crazy when that lady called Garrett with Jack high. In Polk's situation people make the argument that he's a poker genius.
In the lady's case people were saying she couldn't make the call without cheating. It's hard to know when players make a crazy hero call that turn out to be right if they are poker geniuses or lucky.
There’s an extreme difference between a full ring cash game, and a heads up tournament short stacked play
Like I said at some point you realize you're being bluffed and you beat 90 percent of their bluff range.
You don't know Davidi kitai then
I don't think doug calls 20k here.
If it was cash games, doug wouldve folded
I'm betting 20k.
I'd fire again with a small bet 😮
I would have bet 27,000.
8 to win 32, not 40.
Qhigh no kicker 😂
I would bet the pot.
polk sayiig q2 make it look worse 4 fox
finally we run into a robbi lew spot where the pro sees the light. Sometimes in two card when they are polarized all oyu have to do is get a read. Do you think they got it or not.
This isn't at all like Robbi. The hand dynamic was completely different.
why would Doug showe on turn on a board like this... ??? Basically Alex can have anything (trapping AA or some garbage) so shoving would be kind of a risky play here. Chances to hit two pair on flop is 2% but also with two pair why you want scare away opponent who just bets with a 45 or bluffs... you want max value, so I really don't get this part of your analizis. I think saying out loud confidently one specific understanding of a situation is the opposite of being smart... it makes you look smart among average people, but not among really smart people. Try to pick more angle and allow to yourself the sentences like "It can be this, that", "I don't know why he checked, could be this or that the reason, etc".
In poker with all of your actions you keep/include possible stories and also you remove/make less likely other stories. There is no completely good or bad decision cause it also matters how a piece of act completes the big picture, develops other stories, etc and how at the end you use these stories to take advantage. Poker is a marathon, not a sprint.
I can tell you here both play is valid. You can bet or raise. The only important here at this flop situation is to randomize your game, don't be predictible. But betting makes more sense as you have the strength advantage, Alex can have more likely strong hands also in his range, meanwhile Doug can't have any premium hands, also alex blocks 65,67,45, etc.. so Doug probalby has nothing here. It is a bet on this flop 80% of time. Also its funny 1 minute later you just destroy your own theory by criticising Alex how he should have bet with having a J or 6 in his hand on the flop and now on turn he starts betting and of course nobody believes him ... yes this is what i am talking about Alex with cheking killd many of his stories. On the river the only make sense thing is to make an overbet as the last story Alex can tell is he trapped with a JJ and he hopes Doug has a 6... but to be honest it is kind of a very unlikely story to tell this way as you miss so many value called by weaker hands, so i think a tiny bet make more sense as if Doug has a 6 he would raise.
So call with Q2 and you are a genius but call with J4 and you are a cheater?
Such a fool!
Not sure if j or a 6 would always bet that flop,he is oop
It’s funny how similar this was to the J4 off hand that Robi called Garrett with. Nobody is accusing Doug of cheating. It’s kinda funny
I'm sure Robi reasoned things through the same way Doug did.... 🙄
Funny how some people don't realize the vast difference between these 2 hands.
Obvious cheating, should give the chips back
Bullsnot. HORRIBLE call. The guy gets lucky - and now he’s what, a genius?
Gtfooh!
Yeh it’s a good play.. but it’s an awful call 🤣Literally beats 10 high 8 high 7 high 5 high 3 high 2 high , long term, awful play
And one screamed scam there??? Or cheating
Crazy call. How’s this any more legit than the infamous J4 call? Is Doug cheating?
The number of players remaining and the stack sizes make all the difference here
Hmmmmmm..Q high call??? Something fishy going on
Nothing fishy at all.. Everything is explained in the video, and there is only a few value hands with this bet, and so much blufs.. call is only hard because it is tournament and there are ICM implications, heads up no limit cash game, its not that hard of a call. Because you cant wrap your head about it, that does not mean something fishy is going on
'Totally' NOT cheating.
If he had an Ace I can understand calling but with a Queen something fishy going on
Doug makes these light calls frequently. He's not always right.